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« Reply #1240 on: July 26, 2009, 04:08:39 PM »

mods please remove my posts

No, we aren't going to remove posts.
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« Reply #1241 on: July 26, 2009, 04:10:20 PM »

I really like you guys and don't want to step on toes, but please be careful what you write about the brother.  I don't know him nor do I have any information on him but I do know how hard it is to adjust into society if there is something different about you.  He may have autism or he may just be at that awkward age, who knows?  Please be careful. if other kids read this and talk, I would be very painful. (imho)

I personally don't see how he could have hurt her. He would have needed help (i.e no car, etc).  I think it is someone with more resources.
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« Reply #1242 on: July 26, 2009, 04:12:47 PM »

I really like you guys and don't want to step on toes, but please be careful what you write about the brother.  I don't know him nor do I have any information on him but I do know how hard it is to adjust into society if there is something different about you.  He may have autism or he may just be at that awkward age, who knows?  Please be careful. if other kids read this and talk, I would be very painful. (imho)

I personally don't see how he could have hurt her. He would have needed help (i.e no car, etc).  I think it is someone with more resources.

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« Reply #1243 on: July 26, 2009, 04:13:12 PM »

Atlanta Mom - I agree and I really think the McLeary PD would be all over it if they thought JB was a danger.
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« Reply #1244 on: July 26, 2009, 04:16:41 PM »

i just want everyone to know my intention to try to bash anyone, nor to hurt a minor.  thats why i wanted mods.
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« Reply #1245 on: July 26, 2009, 04:16:53 PM »

I really like you guys and don't want to step on toes, but please be careful what you write about the brother.  I don't know him nor do I have any information on him but I do know how hard it is to adjust into society if there is something different about you.  He may have autism or he may just be at that awkward age, who knows?  Please be careful. if other kids read this and talk, I would be very painful. (imho)

I personally don't see how he could have hurt her. He would have needed help (i.e no car, etc).  I think it is someone with more resources.


Atlanta, I totally agree with you.  If a child doesn't "fit" in with all the others kids, they often start acting out, bullying, etc.  It is their way of trying to cope with being a little different.  Unless what he did or may be now is relevant to Lindsey coming home, we are not "entitled" to know it all.  If Lindsey was having a hard time with the divorce, possibly he was too.  And I can tell you, at times when I was their age, my brother and I fought like cats and dogs, but the bottom line was and is we loved each other.  Yes, he may be ackward in the way he handles things, but to be thrust in the limelight like he has been I am sure is uncomfortable, even for those with a lot more self-confidence.  I also agree, I think it is someone Lindsey knows, I do not think it is her brother. JMHO
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« Reply #1246 on: July 26, 2009, 04:18:01 PM »

i just want everyone to know my intention to try to bash anyone, nor to hurt a minor.  thats why i wanted mods.

I respect you got advice from the mods.
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« Reply #1247 on: July 26, 2009, 04:18:28 PM »


i was just watching this show 48 hours and the episode takes place in washington state, the  cop interviewed on this specific case involving a missing woman said that its not good to start processing an area for clues when its dark out b/c you could miss something or disturb something that you would normally find during the daylight... i know this is far fetched but maybe the cops didnt do a great search the night lindsey went missing and this gave the abductor time to hide things and or move things, especially if they are a local and not just someone passing through the area
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« Reply #1248 on: July 26, 2009, 04:18:55 PM »

i just want everyone to know my intention to try to bash anyone, nor to hurt a minor.  thats why i wanted mods.
oh jeeze NOT to bash anyone.
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« Reply #1249 on: July 26, 2009, 04:20:36 PM »


i was just watching this show 48 hours and the episode takes place in washington state, the  cop interviewed on this specific case involving a missing woman said that its not good to start processing an area for clues when its dark out b/c you could miss something or disturb something that you would normally find during the daylight... i know this is far fetched but maybe the cops didnt do a great search the night lindsey went missing and this gave the abductor time to hide things and or move things, especially if they are a local and not just someone passing through the area
jmo but i betcha' a dollar to a doughnut that they though she ran away....i know they don't think that now, but i'm sure it was running through some heads.
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« Reply #1250 on: July 26, 2009, 04:22:37 PM »

Sooooo,was Wayne Watne at the vigil or not?   
I borrowed this from BoonDock at WS.

This is the video from the 1st vigil and right in the very beginning is the same man that was the"pastor"from the 2nd vigil.
So if that was Wayne Watne in the 1st vigil that must also be Wayne in the 2nd vigil because they are obviously the same man.
I still don't think either men are Wayne Watne.


http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/national/article/search_intensifies_for_missing_10-year_old_washington_girl/40240/


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« Reply #1251 on: July 26, 2009, 04:26:40 PM »

i just want everyone to know my intention to try to bash anyone, nor to hurt a minor.  thats why i wanted mods.

I know that you were not trying to hurt anyone.  Kids are just so fragile at this age. 
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« Reply #1252 on: July 26, 2009, 04:31:07 PM »

hi everyone,

just been catching up on some of the latest research about adam campbell...i think its very strange that he's posting on lindsey's messageboard, i also think that his writing is terrible and wonder if hes typing like that on purpose or if he just does not know how to write a sentence/doesn't have an education/or has a learning disability or developmental disorder.

it is true that sometimes perps will try to insert themselves into an investigation. maybe adam campbell is directly involved/responsible for lindsey's disappearance and this is his way of trying to be involved and relive his crime, he prob just didn't count on people figuring out the connection.  (great work dd!)

i personally think that one person committed this abduction, who that person is im unsure of as i feel like i change my mind every other day in this case.



I think all of the info on Adam Campbell needs to be gathered up and sent to the FBI or Sheriff or both.I think a few posters on WS also sent info in on him so maybe if they get enough email about him they might do something about it?I sure hope so.
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« Reply #1253 on: July 26, 2009, 04:34:56 PM »

Sooooo,was Wayne Watne at the vigil or not?   
I borrowed this from BoonDock at WS.

This is the video from the 1st vigil and right in the very beginning is the same man that was the"pastor"from the 2nd vigil.
So if that was Wayne Watne in the 1st vigil that must also be Wayne in the 2nd vigil because they are obviously the same man.
I still don't think either men are Wayne Watne.


http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/national/article/search_intensifies_for_missing_10-year_old_washington_girl/40240/




I believe it is Wayne according to this article.  The first vigil was 7/1/09 in the video above and here is an article mentioning Wayne's name:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d1-Emotional-vigil-held-for-missing-Washington-girl-Lindsey-Baum

Emotional vigil held for missing Washington girl, Lindsey Baum
July 1, 6:09 PM · Cindy Adams - Crime Examiner

Lindsey BaumTuesday night, the town of McCleary, Wash. held an emotional vigil at Beerbower Park for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum, who disappeared Friday night. The attendees held candles, cried, and prayed for the girl’s safe return.

A makeshift memorial of stuffed animals, flowers, and balloons was placed on one of the park’s fences.

A large piece of paper where supporters could leave messages for the family, was also erected at the memorial, with notes saying, “I hope you come back Lindsey you where [sic] my best friend I want you back I want you back home safe” and “May God bless you and may you be safe.”

A neighbor of Lindsey’s, Jennifer Estes told The Daily World, “They live right behind us. Michaela [Jennifer’s daughter] rides her bike and walks by herself all the time.

Lindsey’s Girl Scout troop leader, Becky Spalding said, “I had to tell her to be quiet because she was laughing all the time. It’s very unbelievable. You see this on the news, but you never know anyone who it’s happened to.”

Wayne Watne, a member of the Evergreen Christian Community Church and representative of Harvest Vision Ministries said prayers for Lindsey’s return.

Friday night, Lindsey had gone to a friend’s house to spend the night, but the girl’s mother said no. The friend spoke to the crowd, saying, “I saw her at the end of Maple [Street]. I always think if my mom and me would’ve done something different this wouldn’t have happened.”

Watne encouraged the crowd to applaud the friend and said, “Nobody blames you.”

Lindsey’s brother, Josh Baum stood and said, “I’m very sad. I want you guys to find my sister. Amen!”

The crowd ended the vigil by walking to Lindsey’s home and presenting a sign to her brother that simply said, “Hope.”


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« Reply #1254 on: July 26, 2009, 04:39:05 PM »

I read along here all the time, but I never post much. My biggest question is why Melissa Baum would not ask for help from Equisearch?
At this point, I would be reaching for any help possible. 

I also have a question about old hidden water wells, that may have been covered in large rocks or buildings. Is it normal to have water wells in the area? I think the simplest answer is the best. I believe from all the facts, this was a local, and Lindsay is still in the area. We all hope she is alive, but my belief is she is not. JMO
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« Reply #1255 on: July 26, 2009, 04:40:11 PM »

Thank you Klaas for the clarification.  It looked like the same person, at least to me.
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« Reply #1256 on: July 26, 2009, 04:40:16 PM »

i also have some concerns about jb. his behavior has been reported as being odd since lindsey disappeared, and having a felony on his juvenile record at his age is clearly concerning...i just cant wrap my head around how if he was involved he would have been able to keep it quiet this long, or would have been able to hide her somewhere. i really want to know what his juvenile offense was. i know there are cases where young teens are involved but they are usually messy, at least all of the ones i have heard of. im sure the fbi and police have access to his full juvenile record and have prob looked at him closely (i hope).  i also think we need to know if his mother can account for where jb was during the time lindsey [/b]went missing. i would hope the police asked her this question during her polygraph test but who knows. i think its time that the mother calls texas equusearch, i know that kk suggested this to her, could there be a reason she hasn't called?
I feel the same way, and am very bothered with my feelings.


These would be things for law enforcement, not for you and me, imo.  If jb has commited a crime, remember he is a juvenile and is afforded a certain amount of protection/confidentiality under THE LAW.  JMHO



i am well aware of the laws protecting minors. just b/c i "want" to know something, as im sure most of us do doesn't mean i feel entitled to need to know that information. i'm sorry if my post came across that way.  i feel that working for child protective services for many years and seeing so many disturbing things on a daily basis makes my mind go places it probobaly shouldn't on a messageboard and i will keep these thoughts to myself from now on.
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« Reply #1257 on: July 26, 2009, 04:40:40 PM »

Sooooo,was Wayne Watne at the vigil or not?   
I borrowed this from BoonDock at WS.

This is the video from the 1st vigil and right in the very beginning is the same man that was the"pastor"from the 2nd vigil.
So if that was Wayne Watne in the 1st vigil that must also be Wayne in the 2nd vigil because they are obviously the same man.
I still don't think either men are Wayne Watne.


http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/national/article/search_intensifies_for_missing_10-year_old_washington_girl/40240/




I believe it is Wayne according to this article.  The first vigil was 7/1/09 in the video above and here is an article mentioning Wayne's name:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d1-Emotional-vigil-held-for-missing-Washington-girl-Lindsey-Baum

Emotional vigil held for missing Washington girl, Lindsey Baum
July 1, 6:09 PM · Cindy Adams - Crime Examiner

Lindsey BaumTuesday night, the town of McCleary, Wash. held an emotional vigil at Beerbower Park for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum, who disappeared Friday night. The attendees held candles, cried, and prayed for the girl’s safe return.

A makeshift memorial of stuffed animals, flowers, and balloons was placed on one of the park’s fences.

A large piece of paper where supporters could leave messages for the family, was also erected at the memorial, with notes saying, “I hope you come back Lindsey you where [sic] my best friend I want you back I want you back home safe” and “May God bless you and may you be safe.”

A neighbor of Lindsey’s, Jennifer Estes told The Daily World, “They live right behind us. Michaela [Jennifer’s daughter] rides her bike and walks by herself all the time.

Lindsey’s Girl Scout troop leader, Becky Spalding said, “I had to tell her to be quiet because she was laughing all the time. It’s very unbelievable. You see this on the news, but you never know anyone who it’s happened to.”

Wayne Watne, a member of the Evergreen Christian Community Church and representative of Harvest Vision Ministries said prayers for Lindsey’s return.

Friday night, Lindsey had gone to a friend’s house to spend the night, but the girl’s mother said no. The friend spoke to the crowd, saying, “I saw her at the end of Maple [Street]. I always think if my mom and me would’ve done something different this wouldn’t have happened.”

Watne encouraged the crowd to applaud the friend and said, “Nobody blames you.”

Lindsey’s brother, Josh Baum stood and said, “I’m very sad. I want you guys to find my sister. Amen!”

The crowd ended the vigil by walking to Lindsey’s home and presenting a sign to her brother that simply said, “Hope.”



Thank you Klaas
So I guess that is Wayne Watne.
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« Reply #1258 on: July 26, 2009, 04:40:40 PM »

ww seems ???  overly involved in this?
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« Reply #1259 on: July 26, 2009, 04:43:19 PM »

ww seems ???  overly involved in this?
Seems that way but who the heck knows?I have a headache.
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