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« Reply #860 on: July 22, 2009, 10:01:09 PM »

Just confused, I clicked on the site and the article came up.  I didn't pay.

Then you must have the magic touch.  I tried both yesterday and today, and for a one day read it was $5.00, and more for a weekly and a monthly.


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I received the same page when accessing the website.  Could it be that monies were not forthcoming and the page demanding payment for viewing was taken down.

 

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« Reply #861 on: July 22, 2009, 10:03:07 PM »

Just confused, I clicked on the site and the article came up.  I didn't pay.

Then you must have the magic touch.  I tried both yesterday and today, and for a one day read it was $5.00, and more for a weekly and a monthly.

No magic touch here -- maybe because I don't live in the vicinity?  Have no idea.  Just did it again.

I also clicked on the site and the article came up.  I also just entered www.king5.com and can read there.  So far, nothing saying about any charges...    But I've never tried it before.  Maybe it puts cookies and "knows" if you are coming very often, and after a certain time tries to charge...   Maybe we can take turns accessing the site, until it wants money...
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« Reply #862 on: July 22, 2009, 10:04:05 PM »

Here's an alarming part of the case-- the little girl's mom knew Smiley only 2 weeks before she began allowing him to baby sit her.  And she kept allowing him to baby sit her even after she cried and cried, begging her not to.   
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« Reply #863 on: July 22, 2009, 10:04:08 PM »

Just confused, I clicked on the site and the article came up.  I didn't pay.

Then you must have the magic touch.  I tried both yesterday and today, and for a one day read it was $5.00, and more for a weekly and a monthly.


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I received the same page when accessing the website.  Could it be that monies were not forthcoming and the page demanding payment for viewing was taken down.

 

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« Reply #864 on: July 22, 2009, 10:04:45 PM »

Here's an alarming part of the case-- the little girl's mom knew Smiley only 2 weeks before she began allowing him to baby sit her.  And she kept allowing him to baby sit her even after she cried and cried, begging her not to.   


That's just terrible   
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« Reply #865 on: July 22, 2009, 10:10:17 PM »

I am intrested in reading it. Can anyone here link him to grays harbor county?
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« Reply #866 on: July 22, 2009, 10:26:10 PM »

Here's an alarming part of the case-- the little girl's mom knew Smiley only 2 weeks before she began allowing him to baby sit her.  And she kept allowing him to baby sit her even after she cried and cried, begging her not to.   

That just makes me sick.  What was this mother thinking? 
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« Reply #867 on: July 22, 2009, 10:28:47 PM »

Here's an alarming part of the case-- the little girl's mom knew Smiley only 2 weeks before she began allowing him to baby sit her.  And she kept allowing him to baby sit her even after she cried and cried, begging her not to.   

That just makes me sick.  What was this mother thinking? 
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« Reply #868 on: July 22, 2009, 11:00:52 PM »

Before I post the Jeffrey Smiley criminal complaint, let me know if there's an interest in seeing it.  If there's no interest, I wont post it, because portions of it are rather graphic.

Please post it.  This guy needs to be exposed as the monster he is.  Without details ... his despicable actions are being covered up.

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« Reply #869 on: July 22, 2009, 11:13:16 PM »

Consider the close proximity to McCleary ... I do believe that this monster needs to be considered a person of interest in the disappearance of Lindsey Baum.

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Accused child molester arrested, feds say more victims likely
Story Published: Jul 21, 2009 at 4:22 PM PDT
Story Updated: Jul 22, 2009 at 7:12 AM PDT


SPANAWAY, Wash. -- Police here have arrested a man accused of molesting a 7-year-old girl, and detectives fear there may be additional victims.

Jeffrey R. Smiley was arrested and charged on Tuesday with aggravated sexual abuse for assaulting a young girl on federal property.

Earlier this month the girl revealed that Smiley, 36, had molested her in the woods of the Fort Lewis Military Reservation near Spanaway, according to federal agents.

Investigators searched the publicly-accessible woods, and at two locations found camera equipment, children's clothes, toys, mattresses and sexual paraphernalia.

Parked nearby was Smiley's car, inside which investigators found computer equipment containing images of child pornography, including images of the 7-year-old girl.

"Given the amount of evidence that was found. the number of images, the children's clothing that was found, number of toys, the extent of the evidence, there's concern, certainly, that there could have been more than one child," said FBI spokesman Fred Gutt.

Smiley's adoptive sisters allege abuse

Prior to Smiley's arrest on Tuesday, an arrest warrant had been issued for Smiley for two counts of first-degree child molestation from a previous incident.

According to court documents, Smiley's own mother had accused him of sexually assaulting his two adoptive sisters between September 2006 and June 2007. The girls were 5 and 9 years old at the time.

The allegations first surfaced after the younger girl told her mother Smiley had acted strangely while babysitting her and her sister overnight on July 12, 2008. The girl said Smiley exposed himself, touched her genitals and took pictures of her naked, the documents said.

When interviewed by detectives, however, the girl, whom detectives described as "developmentally delayed," did not disclose any abuse.

The 5-year-old girl reported a similar incident to her mother a month later. The mother then asked her 9-year-old daughter whether she had any similar encounters.

Prosecutors said the older girl burst into tears and said Smiley had touched her when she spent a night at his house in the fourth grade.

While watching a movie, the girl said Smiley told her he'd "show her what boyfriends do," instructed her to take her clothes off, then touched her, according to the documents. The next day Smiley told her not to tell anyone about the incident, the girl said.


Smiley was arrested in February, then released on his own recognizance. He was scheduled to stand trial in August.

However, an arrest warrant was issued when he broke a condition of his release by moving in with a woman and her young child earlier this year. Smiley had been instructed to have no contact with minor children and to stay away from school grounds or playgrounds.

Records indicate Smiley has a 4-year-old daughter of his own, who has been placed under the care of her grandfather residing in another state.

The mandatory minimum sentence for an aggravated sexual abuse conviction is 30 years in prison.

Anyone with information or concerns about the possible victimization of a child is asked to contact the FBI by calling (206) 622-0460 or by e-mailing detectives.

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« Reply #870 on: July 22, 2009, 11:25:09 PM »

Just confused, I clicked on the site and the article came up.  I didn't pay.

Then you must have the magic touch.  I tried both yesterday and today, and for a one day read it was $5.00, and more for a weekly and a monthly.

No magic touch here -- maybe because I don't live in the vicinity?  Have no idea.  Just did it again.

I also clicked on the site and the article came up.  I also just entered www.king5.com and can read there.  So far, nothing saying about any charges...    But I've never tried it before.  Maybe it puts cookies and "knows" if you are coming very often, and after a certain time tries to charge...   Maybe we can take turns accessing the site, until it wants money...

This is the site that requested payment for a daily/monthly/yearly subscription for viewing when I tried accessing it in the past couple of days.  That page has now been taken down and ... article can be viewed without charge.

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« Reply #871 on: July 22, 2009, 11:33:09 PM »

just want to share a bit of info with you, so you can expand and see.

I am researching over here and I find that there are Smiley family in SHELTON, ELMA and McCleary.

I also find that the weirdo posts on lindsey's guestbook by adam Campbell is strange too.  first there is one who is a sex offender out of yakima. 

but then there is one out of spanaway listed with a forrest smiley.  this adam campbell is 43, the sex offender one is 31.  now we have no idea which adam campbell in on lindsey's guestbook with the weird posts, or if someone else is just using that name to tell us something. 

I have taken those weirdo posts over to the crypotologists etc of the zodiac case.  They have some people over there who are really really good, and I just don't have the time to keep fooling with those posts like they can and there are 100 people or more over there who can work on it.  And it also brings attention to lindsey's case over there and hopefully one of those people with the HUGE sites will pick up Lindseys cause and help try to figure this mess out. 

so let me get back over here and try to figure out which Smiley's are related here. 

If it turns out to be this adam campbell is the one listed with forrest smiley in spanaway and if forrest is related to jeffrey richard spanaway then HMMM why are they posting weird posts on lindsey's guestbook. 

also if the smileys in elma, mccleary and shelton are related to jeffrey richard spanaway who was just arrested, it is possible he was over in mccleary visiting family.  or in elma where lindsey sometimes was. 

so let me go dig more, and if I come up with more will let you know. 

thanks for helping out jessstar, it helps to figure out which ones we are looking at. 

btw if jefferey richard smiley was bory in june 6 1973, then he is somehow connected to the ohop anesthesia inc, ... so did this guy have access to anesthetic drugs? 
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« Reply #872 on: July 22, 2009, 11:35:58 PM »

in previous post should be jeffrey richard smiley IN spanaway, not jeffery richard spanaway

also this guy is in Eatonville.
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« Reply #873 on: July 22, 2009, 11:37:18 PM »

btw, if you would like to use my research, I have no problem with that at all.  this is all about solving a case, so feel free to use it. it is all categorized and easy to find.
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« Reply #874 on: July 22, 2009, 11:43:30 PM »

oh one other thing I have been working on which is very intersting is this. 

the guy arrested in montesaro, PHERNETTON... well get this.  there is a WIL phernetton on myspace who has his top 10 friends.  one of them is FLEEZY... he's on kara's kids myspaces and her sister in laws, and is related.  I have not had time to do a lot of work on this but have some of it done.  phernetton is a pretty uncommon name and to have fleezy on his page kind of ties them name together.  So I thought there should be some research done on that as well.

and after you see what is on his page and where is leads you, you will say HMMMM   there are connections from his myspace to lyrics of a song about raping and molesting children for lord satan...
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« Reply #875 on: July 23, 2009, 12:11:19 AM »

and I just had a lightbulb go off just now.  will be working more on that also.

the cryptic weird posts...

HAPPY follow state laws etc, I just went ding ding. 

he keeps saying don't worry about it.  follow the state law.  HAPPY

well if you don't worry you are happy.  you don't frown, you smile.  you follow the state law, what is it?  it is the sex offender law, you have to register, and it is out there to follow. 

what does all this add up to... happy, don't worry.  smile - SMILEY????

ok so here you have an adam campbell posting these cryptic posts on lindsey guestbook, why there.  because we have an adam campbell listed with forrest smiley who MIGHT be (working on this right now) related to jeffrey richard smiley the arrested sex offender.  if so then adam campbell with forrest smiley might know something about jeffrey richard smiley being related to the elma, mccleary, shelton Smileys and his being in that area visiting etc..

so is this person with the cryptic posts over on lindsey's guestbook trying to tell us to look at jeffrey richard smiley in connection to lindsey's disappearance? 

and jeffrey's middle name is richard.  could he by any chance be called rick?  if so, white house might be casa blanca. the movie, where the character is RICK?  now I don't know about this part this was someone else's idea about the rick part.  I will work on those posts more later.  right now I have 3-4 things I am really working on which need a lot of research still
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« Reply #876 on: July 23, 2009, 12:12:55 AM »

oh one other thing I have been working on which is very intersting is this. 

the guy arrested in montesaro, PHERNETTON... well get this.  there is a WIL phernetton on myspace who has his top 10 friends.  one of them is FLEEZY... he's on kara's kids myspaces and her sister in laws, and is related.  I have not had time to do a lot of work on this but have some of it done.  phernetton is a pretty uncommon name and to have fleezy on his page kind of ties them name together.  So I thought there should be some research done on that as well.

and after you see what is on his page and where is leads you, you will say HMMMM   there are connections from his myspace to lyrics of a song about raping and molesting children for lord satan...
DD GOOD WORK!!! I feel good about my accedent in thinking he might be the Allen and posting his arrest despite his age. It feels good to have some leads. we  have a bunch of fishing around we can do now thanks to you DD ... U R WONDERFUL!!!!
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« Reply #877 on: July 23, 2009, 12:17:59 AM »

I've beenn over here doing a lot of work on this stuff and it is all posted, feel free to use it to get a jump start. 

I do think that cryptic poster really might be saying to look at SMILEY.  let me go dig. 
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« Reply #878 on: July 23, 2009, 01:05:46 AM »

Just confused, I clicked on the site and the article came up.  I didn't pay.

Then you must have the magic touch.  I tried both yesterday and today, and for a one day read it was $5.00, and more for a weekly and a monthly.
Here is a free way to read newspapers around here.
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You will be able to see all newpapers from pierce county, thurston, lewis and grays harbor counties listed on the left hand side middle of page.
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« Reply #879 on: July 23, 2009, 01:14:26 AM »

sorry for so many posts in a row. I just thought I would tell you that the guy that I think hit and ran my car 's name is Mark (cant remember the last name) he is a construction company owner that built the houses out by the railroad tracks where they were searching the other day around Larson and 108. He is known to be a drunk at the bars every night. I mean every night too.  He is like 6'4" or something. He lived in Mccleary at the time he hit my car with his gf right past the place the built the homes around Elma hickland road. When I was investigating him I was told by a few bartenders he was a creep. I wander if this is the same drunk mark that someone talked to at the bar?  I stopped trying to catch him when my daughter came home from sick from school one day and it turned out she had an appendicitis. She was rushed in for surgery and thats when I asked myself if me spending all my time finding the guy who wrecked my car was more important that my family... I gave up at that point. anyway if it is the same guy he has some common denominators .
Lives in mccleary
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not above breaking the law
built homes in the area
for some reason the city was fighting him about building and he had to stop
he was known to have money problems
He might be the drunk mark????

Is the drunk Mark that you are thinking of also Mark "Feeser" the SO?  Also, doesn't the people who attend the chuch in McCleary called "New Harvest" or something along that line that are a group of sex offenders build houses for a contracter locally?

Thanks for the question... No mark that I am speaking of is not Feeser. Im trying to get his last nem but its been so long ago. . The church people in town athat houses felons fresh out of prision do jobs like teat down old homes clear land, and of that nature. I remember years ago when my son was about 14., he came home from that church after I told him he could not go  to that building. It was around Christmas time and he told me that the Sunshine kids delivered huge amounts of presants to them. He then told me that the pastor and his son took them upstairs to there appartment and he watched the two open all of them. Taking everything good and rewrapping them to give the rest to the people in the church. I found that dishonest and forbid him from ever going there and seeing them again. There was a time not too long after that My son was grounded for getting mouthy and and not comming home on time. He then ran away. He wasnt gone 1 hour and I was outside that church banging on the door. They would not open the door. I called and the paster finaly picked up the phone. I told him that if he had my son inside his church I was going to call the police as I do not approve of the people that frequent his church or the way he runs it. He promiced me my son was not there.  so i went to the police dept. when I was leaving the police dept my son was waiting outside for me. HI took him home and he told me that he was there and they had him leave.  Now I ask you what man of god would keep a boy who had ran away from home in his establishment and lie after a mother comes and asks if he is there? It took my treats of calling the police. So in my opinion the man and the ones who follow him are not trying to better there lifes and make a diffrence. They are using god as a shield from what there really about. This is why I brought your attention to this place. Sorry for jabbering on and on lol.

Wow, I shouldnt be surprised but I am.  Those people scare me, especially those who use religion as a cover for really bad behavior.  I live in the grand mound area, if you have areas you would like to search but dont want to go alone I am willing to go with you.  It's a lot safer in numbers. Just let me know and we can make arraingements. 
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