Lindsey Baum #2 7/10/09 - 7/28/09

[mamacrazy30]

well yes he could get the cuts and scrapes from all kinds of things.  I am just wondering if they are tats or cuts or what.  I always have my hands cut up 

i can't tell

[Sister]

At first I thought possibly a mechanic, but where would you get red "ink"/color from?  Maybe a tattoo artist?

[concernedmommyinwa]

concernedmommyinwa, I am sorry for the loss of your daughter's friend, Kylie. I hope what I just posted doesn't upset you too much.

This is a missing person/crime forum and sometimes the details we talk about can be a bit gruesome, especially for friends and family members.

I am sorry.

Pink Angel, what you have posted are facts. What upsets me is that no one has seemed to care from the day Kylie went missing, that she was gone. She was 12, and she was classified as a runaway, and pretty much ignored. I hope that what you guys are doing makes another family not have to go through this.

[Live*Learn*Love]

One of the missing women..


Alyssa McLemore
Missing Since April 9th, 2009....

is a Mother, Daughter, Grandaughter, Sister, Cousin, Neice, Friend..
Most of all she is a HUMAN BEING....
As most of everyone has seen the news, read the papers, or heard from someone. Alyssa McLemore has not been seen or heard from since the evening of April 9th, 2009. Sadly Alyssa’s mother has since passed away. Her family has been overwhelmed with the pain that this has caused. The loss of Gracie on April 12, 2009 and the disappearance of Alyssa 3 days prior.


http://www.myspace.com/alyssa_mclemore

http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/south_king/ken/news/48539517.html


Police Share New Leads In Hopes Of Finding Missing Kent Woman
More than two months after 21-year-old Alyssa McLemore disappeared, police have new information they've learned from possible witnesses. They're sharing the new lead with the public with the hope of finding out what happened to her.
Q13 FOX News Online Staff reporter
June 19, 2009

Kent - Police are giving us new details on a missing Kent woman -- and asking for your help identifying a man she was seen talking to.

21-year-old Alyssa Mclemore disappeared April 9th.

On the night she vanished, police say someone using her phone called 911 -- and a female voice was heard asking for help.

Now detectives say a witness in the area of Kent-Des Moines Road and 30th Avenue S. says Alyssa was approached by a mid to late-90's green pickup, possibly a standard cab, with Oregon license plates.

A second witness described a white man, 55 to 62 years old, five foot eight, and weighing around 180 pounds -- and driving a similar green truck.

It's believed Alyssa knows the driver of that truck.

http://www.q13fox.com/community/wamostwanted/kcpq-061909-wmw-alyssamclemore,0,3460051.story

So what is Wayne driving these days ?
He fits the description..

I was just peeking over at this board reading up on this case and noticed that a few pages back someone found a address that Wayne Watne occupied in Oregon. I don't know how to bump that over, so I am just going to copy and paste it. Sorry it this is just repeated information.


Name: Wayne Watne
Spouse: Stacie
Address: 33017 SE Peoria Rd
City: Corvallis
State: Oregon
Zip Code: 97333-2529
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Residence Years: 2001 2002

[concernedmommyinwa]

[/quote]

Hi and Welcome

Do you know the name of the church the youth group was at?
I have not read about thiscase other than have seen her name here and there.  Is there a link where I can read about her?
[/quote]

First I wanted to thank everyone for their sympathy about Kylie's passing. Second I talked to Kylie's family today and found out the youth group she was going to is called E-life.  http://www.myspace.com/elifeyouthgroup is a link to their myspace page. It is held at Rainier Chapel, in Rainier. http://rainierchapel.com/ Rainier is located 40 miles from McCleary, and 8 miles from Tenino, where Nancy Moyer disappeared.

Also, I wanted to add a link for the person who aske for more information about Kylie http://www.protectyelm.org/2008/12/missing-yelm-girl/. Sorry this was all I could find that wasn't another message board.

Again, thank you all for caring, and be so committed to what you are doing here.

[doubledecker]

Hi and Welcome

Do you know the name of the church the youth group was at?
I have not read about thiscase other than have seen her name here and there.  Is there a link where I can read about her?
[/quote]

First I wanted to thank everyone for their sympathy about Kylie's passing. Second I talked to Kylie's family today and found out the youth group she was going to is called E-life.  http://www.myspace.com/elifeyouthgroup is a link to their myspace page. It is held at Rainier Chapel, in Rainier. http://rainierchapel.com/ Rainier is located 40 miles from McCleary, and 8 miles from Tenino, where Nancy Moyer disappeared.

Also, I wanted to add a link for the person who aske for more information about Kylie http://www.protectyelm.org/2008/12/missing-yelm-girl/. Sorry this was all I could find that wasn't another message board.

Again, thank you all for caring, and be so committed to what you are doing here.
[/quote]

thank you for the links I will try to go read through them in a bit.  I want to look at kylie's case.  I have so much I am working on right now to try to help find Lindsey, but I do want to take a look at Kylie's case.  It is too bizarre and just the few posts I have read on this thread about the circumstances of her going missing, then being seen, then all that canal strangeness and the suicide note, it makes no sense to me already.  And for all we know kylie's case MIGHT BE connected to some of the others.  It is close for one thing(as you have stated) and bizarre.

thanks for any info or links etc or thoughts you can add.

[doubledecker]

Rainier Chapel was established in 1935 as the Rainier Union Chapel. Today we are referred to as Rainier Chapel. We are a Non-Denominational Purpose Driven Church that seeks to show that God is real and relevant to our daily lives.

 

We have a small congregation of approximately 100 families. Approximately 30 members attend morning traditional service, and 70 members attend the contemporary second service.

[doubledecker]

Constitution/articles/doctrine/beliefs etc of raineer chapel
http://rainierchapel.com/constitution.htm#Art3

[doubledecker]

thurston county sex offenders failing to register.

we might should check out addresses for these guys, see if any area connected to mccleary, just the next county over, they could have relatives in mccleary and went there and not listed there.

http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/sheriff/hp-docs/press-releases/Press-Release-20080408.pdf

[doubledecker]

sketch and description of person in thruston county wanted for incidence with child

http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/sheriff/hp-docs/press-releases/Press-Release-20080327.pdf

[doubledecker]

thurston county, sketch and description AND WHITE CAR, guy offered ride and sex for money to a 14 year old, had stuff in the car looked like his personal belongings etc... maybe this guy made it to Mccleary.  the WHITE CAR? 

http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/sheriff/hp-docs/press-releases/Press-Release-20080108.pdf

[Edward]

One of the missing women..


Alyssa McLemore
Missing Since April 9th, 2009....

is a Mother, Daughter, Grandaughter, Sister, Cousin, Neice, Friend..
Most of all she is a HUMAN BEING....
As most of everyone has seen the news, read the papers, or heard from someone. Alyssa McLemore has not been seen or heard from since the evening of April 9th, 2009. Sadly Alyssa’s mother has since passed away. Her family has been overwhelmed with the pain that this has caused. The loss of Gracie on April 12, 2009 and the disappearance of Alyssa 3 days prior.


http://www.myspace.com/alyssa_mclemore

http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/south_king/ken/news/48539517.html


Police Share New Leads In Hopes Of Finding Missing Kent Woman
More than two months after 21-year-old Alyssa McLemore disappeared, police have new information they've learned from possible witnesses. They're sharing the new lead with the public with the hope of finding out what happened to her.
Q13 FOX News Online Staff reporter
June 19, 2009

Kent - Police are giving us new details on a missing Kent woman -- and asking for your help identifying a man she was seen talking to.

21-year-old Alyssa Mclemore disappeared April 9th.

On the night she vanished, police say someone using her phone called 911 -- and a female voice was heard asking for help.

Now detectives say a witness in the area of Kent-Des Moines Road and 30th Avenue S. says Alyssa was approached by a mid to late-90's green pickup, possibly a standard cab, with Oregon license plates.

A second witness described a white man, 55 to 62 years old, five foot eight, and weighing around 180 pounds -- and driving a similar green truck.

It's believed Alyssa knows the driver of that truck.

http://www.q13fox.com/community/wamostwanted/kcpq-061909-wmw-alyssamclemore,0,3460051.story

So what is Wayne driving these days ?
He fits the description..

I was just peeking over at this board reading up on this case and noticed that a few pages back someone found a address that Wayne Watne occupied in Oregon. I don't know how to bump that over, so I am just going to copy and paste it. Sorry it this is just repeated information.


Name: Wayne Watne
Spouse: Stacie
Address: 33017 SE Peoria Rd
City: Corvallis
State: Oregon
Zip Code: 97333-2529
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Residence Years: 2001 2002

I hope somebody gets this information to local investigators.. It needs to be looked into.
jmho

[doubledecker]

I wonder if any of the above people in the sketches might be hiding in mccleary/elma, or at that church who won't allow photos because some of the people do not want the law to know where they are at.  I will send these links to locals elma and see if they have recognized anyone around there like that

[doubledecker]

One of the missing women..


Alyssa McLemore
Missing Since April 9th, 2009....

is a Mother, Daughter, Grandaughter, Sister, Cousin, Neice, Friend..
Most of all she is a HUMAN BEING....
As most of everyone has seen the news, read the papers, or heard from someone. Alyssa McLemore has not been seen or heard from since the evening of April 9th, 2009. Sadly Alyssa’s mother has since passed away. Her family has been overwhelmed with the pain that this has caused. The loss of Gracie on April 12, 2009 and the disappearance of Alyssa 3 days prior.


http://www.myspace.com/alyssa_mclemore

http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/south_king/ken/news/48539517.html


Police Share New Leads In Hopes Of Finding Missing Kent Woman
More than two months after 21-year-old Alyssa McLemore disappeared, police have new information they've learned from possible witnesses. They're sharing the new lead with the public with the hope of finding out what happened to her.
Q13 FOX News Online Staff reporter
June 19, 2009

Kent - Police are giving us new details on a missing Kent woman -- and asking for your help identifying a man she was seen talking to.

21-year-old Alyssa Mclemore disappeared April 9th.

On the night she vanished, police say someone using her phone called 911 -- and a female voice was heard asking for help.

Now detectives say a witness in the area of Kent-Des Moines Road and 30th Avenue S. says Alyssa was approached by a mid to late-90's green pickup, possibly a standard cab, with Oregon license plates.

A second witness described a white man, 55 to 62 years old, five foot eight, and weighing around 180 pounds -- and driving a similar green truck.

It's believed Alyssa knows the driver of that truck.

http://www.q13fox.com/community/wamostwanted/kcpq-061909-wmw-alyssamclemore,0,3460051.story

So what is Wayne driving these days ?
He fits the description..

I was just peeking over at this board reading up on this case and noticed that a few pages back someone found a address that Wayne Watne occupied in Oregon. I don't know how to bump that over, so I am just going to copy and paste it. Sorry it this is just repeated information.


Name: Wayne Watne
Spouse: Stacie
Address: 33017 SE Peoria Rd
City: Corvallis
State: Oregon
Zip Code: 97333-2529
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Residence Years: 2001 2002

I hope somebody gets this information to local investigators.. It needs to be looked into.
jmho

I have more info on the oregon info for wayne watne.  I will try to get it all together in on place or post or if someone else can let me know and I will work on someothing else.  I think I put most of the oregon wane watn info in the wayne watne thread,

[sherip]

Hi and Welcome

Do you know the name of the church the youth group was at?
I have not read about thiscase other than have seen her name here and there.  Is there a link where I can read about her?
[/quote]

First I wanted to thank everyone for their sympathy about Kylie's passing. Second I talked to Kylie's family today and found out the youth group she was going to is called E-life.  http://www.myspace.com/elifeyouthgroup is a link to their myspace page. It is held at Rainier Chapel, in Rainier. http://rainierchapel.com/ Rainier is located 40 miles from McCleary, and 8 miles from Tenino, where Nancy Moyer disappeared.

Also, I wanted to add a link for the person who aske for more information about Kylie http://www.protectyelm.org/2008/12/missing-yelm-girl/. Sorry this was all I could find that wasn't another message board.

Again, thank you all for caring, and be so committed to what you are doing here.
[/quote]
I went to the e-life youth group website that you provided above and I have a couple of quesstions about the photos.

Is there any way to find out where their winter camp 2009 was held?  It looks like some sort of camp with cabins.  Wouldn't that be a surprise if it was Camp Delezene....

And also a photo caught my attention in the album "in Christ We Stand"  Please look at the photo with caption "WAYNE // INCREDIBLE GUITARIST"  I have tried to attach the photo but am not sure if I did it the right way.

Is this WW?  Could it be him without a beard?


 

[KarmaRoundUp]

okay here is the photo of the guy in the link of the previous post. 

first look at his hand in the this photo, I thought it looked like maybe he had a tattoo across his fingers
 


but look a little closer, if that is a tattoo some of it is way up his fingers almost to his knuckles



but look at this one when I change the brightness and contrast.  I did not change the color etc.  now the different discoloration in the photo looks like cuts? scrapes?

Thanks DD
His fingers look more banged up and not a tattoo.Maybe someone local has seen him around and might know who he is?

[doubledecker]

I went to the e-life youth group website that you provided above and I have a couple of quesstions about the photos.

Is there any way to find out where their winter camp 2009 was held?  It looks like some sort of camp with cabins.  Wouldn't that be a surprise if it was Camp Delezene....

And also a photo caught my attention in the album "in Christ We Stand"  Please look at the photo with caption "WAYNE // INCREDIBLE GUITARIST"  I have tried to attach the photo but am not sure if I did it the right way.

Is this WW?  Could it be him without a beard?


 

I blew the photo up and lightened it so you can see it better

[KarmaRoundUp]

thurston county, sketch and description AND WHITE CAR, guy offered ride and sex for money to a 14 year old, had stuff in the car looked like his personal belongings etc... maybe this guy made it to Mccleary.  the WHITE CAR? 

http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/sheriff/hp-docs/press-releases/Press-Release-20080108.pdf

The sketch in this link looks like a wanted offender from your first link posted above this post.....Tyler G. McGee.

[sherip]

I went to the e-life youth group website that you provided above and I have a couple of quesstions about the photos.

Is there any way to find out where their winter camp 2009 was held?  It looks like some sort of camp with cabins.  Wouldn't that be a surprise if it was Camp Delezene....

And also a photo caught my attention in the album "in Christ We Stand"  Please look at the photo with caption "WAYNE // INCREDIBLE GUITARIST"  I have tried to attach the photo but am not sure if I did it the right way.

Is this WW?  Could it be him without a beard?


 

I blew the photo up and lightened it so you can see it better

Did you look at the photo from the newspaper that is earlier in this post compared to the photo you lightened up?  What do you think? Do you see any similarities?  I do,  but honestly I am not sure if I just want so see them so we can find Lindsey before she ends up like Kylie.  It would be something concrete to give LE if he knew both girls.  Sure surprized me when I saw the photo and caption.

Does anyone know if WW plays guitar at the McCleary church?


Here is a photo from facebook

[Northern Rose]

Harvest Vision Ministries

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June 2009 US News
A “Mexico” reunion was held when Wayne Watne came up to visit from Chehalis Valley. Wayne fixed a fish and seafood extravaganza for friends that gathered at the Henson’s home in Sedro Woolley.

We are excited that Wayne will be more actively coordinating ministry in the Chehalis Valley and we are revising the website to accommodate communication to the Chrisitan brothers and sisters that are in his sphere of influence. Please keep Wayne in prayer as he seeks to bring the body into stronger unity and increase the influence of the Chrisitan witness in that area. 


US News December 2008
George and Linda accompanied Elisabeth and the rest of the team that represented different church families in the Skagit Valley, as well as Wayne Watne, that recently moved from Mt. Vernon, where he attended the Mt. Vernon Church of the Nazarene to McLeary, WA. The team drove through snowy passes towing a trailer of gifts, food, blankets, sewing machines and supplies, Bibles and other ministry supplies.

http://www.harvestvisionministries.org/usnews.html