Lindsey Baum #2 7/10/09 - 7/28/09

[concernedmommyinwa]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86992&page=18

Posted by BOONDOCK at Websleuths:

The Undersheriff told Q13 FOX News that they received tips and are out searching Tuesday. The FBI, Pierce County Sheriff deputies and Search and Rescue teams are also involved in the search for the missing girl. -snipped-

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0728...tory?track=rss

has Pierce County always been involved or is this new?

This is an interesting point.

[doubledecker]

--------------->  SNIP

But I'd like to know where he was when he made his posts, as it could potentially lead to identifying others.  Perhaps he used a "friend's" computer.  Or he was in McCleary, Elma or some other nearby place on the 21st visiting "friends." 

Well, I sure hope they have ruled out use of a proxy.  IE:  hope they are not counting on him being two states away by the IP this was posted from.  I want a photo of him two states away!  Show me a gas station tape of him buying something!  (I am brutal! LOL)

I know, I am the same way, just because he was there when she disappeared or he posted on her guestbook, does not mean he was not back in washington when someone says they saw him, especially when he use to live right there. 

LE has to take this into account, they can't be so stupid as not too... can they?  I mean this is BASIC common sense.  he can drive from two states away and go to washington, be seen and leave again and go back two states away. 

they HAVE to know that, how can you be a detective and not know something like that?  unless you are barney fife, and I would think they are not... they have his ips so they had to have checked them and tracked them, the feds can do that.  I do know this, he used a bunch of ips. 

Sounds like a proxy to me! 
Did you see my other posts - I was going from the random angle he was trying to use code to direct us/someone right to Lindsey.

oh yah I understand that very well

[JessStar]

Interesting that they mentioned using a search and rescue team as opposed to search and recovery. Maybe I'm reading too much into that, but rescue teams are used when the expectation is that the person will be found alive. Recovery teams are used for the alternative.

[Fanny Mae]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86992&page=18

Posted by BOONDOCK at Websleuths:

The Undersheriff told Q13 FOX News that they received tips and are out searching Tuesday. The FBI, Pierce County Sheriff deputies and Search and Rescue teams are also involved in the search for the missing girl. -snipped-

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0728...tory?track=rss

has Pierce County always been involved or is this new?

This is an interesting point.

Pierce County does not mess around. There may be some real progress being made at this point. JMO

[Fanny Mae]

DOUBLEDECKER, if you are worried about gathering info using an ISP tracker, they are not illegal. Just in case that is one of you concerns.

[doubledecker]

Interesting that they mentioned using a search and rescue team as opposed to search and recovery. Maybe I'm reading too much into that, but rescue teams are used when the expectation is that the person will be found alive. Recovery teams are used for the alternative.

I noticed that also, hmmm, well maybe they just are interchanging the two, but gee, wish they would use the correct terms so we would know. 

[doubledecker]

DOUBLEDECKER, if you are worried about gathering info using an ISP tracker, they are not illegal. Just in case that is one of you concerns.

nope I don't worry about that at all.   
my concern is I say something the police do not want anyone to know. 

[Fanny Mae]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86992&page=18

Posted by BOONDOCK at Websleuths:

The Undersheriff told Q13 FOX News that they received tips and are out searching Tuesday. The FBI, Pierce County Sheriff deputies and Search and Rescue teams are also involved in the search for the missing girl. -snipped-

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0728...tory?track=rss

has Pierce County always been involved or is this new?

This is an interesting point.

I wasn't able to pull up that link. Was that the undersheriff of Gray's Harbor or Pierce County that made that statement?

[doubledecker]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86992&page=18

Posted by BOONDOCK at Websleuths:

The Undersheriff told Q13 FOX News that they received tips and are out searching Tuesday. The FBI, Pierce County Sheriff deputies and Search and Rescue teams are also involved in the search for the missing girl. -snipped-

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0728...tory?track=rss

has Pierce County always been involved or is this new?

This is an interesting point.

Pierce County does not mess around. There may be some real progress being made at this point. JMO

good glad to here that... so maybe they have some evidence in Pierce county as well as in McCleary.  let's see, who lives in both places? or maybe the dogs are out of pierce county, sometimes they get dogs from other counties to come to help

[Fanny Mae]

DOUBLEDECKER, if you are worried about gathering info using an ISP tracker, they are not illegal. Just in case that is one of you concerns.

nope I don't worry about that at all.   
my concern is I say something the police do not want anyone to know. 

I assume most of what you have gathered has already been on the web?

[doubledecker]

Roy, Washington WA = Pierce County

[doubledecker]

DOUBLEDECKER, if you are worried about gathering info using an ISP tracker, they are not illegal. Just in case that is one of you concerns.

nope I don't worry about that at all.   
my concern is I say something the police do not want anyone to know. 

I assume most of what you have gathered has already been on the web?

not at all, that is the problem

[Fanny Mae]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86992&page=18

Posted by BOONDOCK at Websleuths:

The Undersheriff told Q13 FOX News that they received tips and are out searching Tuesday. The FBI, Pierce County Sheriff deputies and Search and Rescue teams are also involved in the search for the missing girl. -snipped-

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0728...tory?track=rss

has Pierce County always been involved or is this new?

This is an interesting point.

Pierce County does not mess around. There may be some real progress being made at this point. JMO

good glad to here that... so maybe they have some evidence in Pierce county as well as in McCleary.  let's see, who lives in both places? or maybe the dogs are out of pierce county, sometimes they get dogs from other counties to come to help

Sounds like they are using more sophistocated dogs from Pierce County. I think it is a good thing. There is a fine line between search and rescue, and cadaver dog. The two or totally different things, just like drug dogs are. It might be a smoke screen to make people think they are still looking for a live Lindsay. JMO

[concernedmommyinwa]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86992&page=18

Posted by BOONDOCK at Websleuths:

The Undersheriff told Q13 FOX News that they received tips and are out searching Tuesday. The FBI, Pierce County Sheriff deputies and Search and Rescue teams are also involved in the search for the missing girl. -snipped-

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0728...tory?track=rss

has Pierce County always been involved or is this new?

This is an interesting point.

I wasn't able to pull up that link. Was that the undersheriff of Gray's Harbor or Pierce County that made that statement?

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-072809-mccleary,0,4668836.story

Maybe this link will work. It isn't clear which department the undersheriff they are quoting is from?

[A_News_Junkie_Monkey]

Roy, Washington WA = Pierce County

Roy Washington - now isn't that interesting. 

[doubledecker]

Roy, Washington WA = Pierce County

Roy Washington - now isn't that interesting. 

certainly is

[JessStar]

Remember DD, I'm the eternal optimist. I assume they chose the correct term! ::monkeysmiles::

[doubledecker]

Remember DD, I'm the eternal optimist. I assume they chose the correct term! ::monkeysmiles::

well you know, I still have some hope she is alive.  but I do not like the sound of cadaver dogs...maybe the info they got was that she might or might not be so they brought in cadaver dogs also just in case

[Northern Rose]

Search for missing girl continues, more publicity is needed
Published on Tue, Jul 28, 2009

by BY PAM STEVENS | EDITOR

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When a parent hears that a child is missing, heartbreak for the family instantaneously comes to the surface. The emotional rollercoaster that this family must be going through is something most of us, thankfully will never be able to understand.

Lindsey Baum, a 10-year-old girl from McCleary, Wash. went missing on June 26 while walking home from a friend’s house. She has never been seen since.

Having a daughter almost the same age as Baum, has made me even more empathetic and more cautious about her walking alone or being out of my sight. Our motto is “stay where I can see you”.

While we have all heard about the disappearance, it is disconcerting that more has not been seen or heard within the media over this young girl just vanishing.

When Elizabeth Smart disappeared from her home in Utah, state, national and even global attention was given to the case for months and months. Her family even appeared on Oprah and other national television shows in hopes of finding her.

Why is Baum’s disappearance any less important? There are bits and pieces seen here and there on nightly newscasts but the constant coverage and continual reminders of her disappearance have vanished right along with her.

There are hundreds of children who disappear in this country every year, many of them taken by someone outside of their family and friends, yet we only hear of a select few.

Now, the family has announced that there is a $6,000 reward for information given that will help find Baum and/or her abductor.

Is this one reason Baum’s disappearance hasn’t gotten the same media attention – money?
Searchers have been probing trails, rivers, roads, and every other place they can think of for this child, but to no avail.

Now her father may be deployed to Iraq soon and would like nothing more than to see his daughter and know she is safe before he leaves.

Every child deserves to be safe and when one of them goes missing, their disappearance should be a top story on the news each night. Race, religion, age, money, none of this should matter. 

For now, thoughts and prayers go out to Lindsey Baum and her family, prayers that they will not only find her, but that they will find her alive.  Hope that she will return home to the arms of all of those who have searched for her.

http://www.lakestevensjournal.com/editorial/article.exm/2009-07-28_search_for_missing_girl_continues__more_publicity_is_needed

[Northern Rose]

Searchers Brave Heat In Search For Missing McCleary Girl
Posted: 12:56 pm PDT July 28, 2009
Updated: 2:09 pm PDT July 28, 2009

MCCLEARY, Wash. -- As temperatures soar near 100, teams from the Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Office, the FBI and Pierce County are in McCleary today conducting another search for missing 10-year-old Lindsey Baum.
The teams, including search dogs, are battling the heat as they check up on additional tips and re-check the area hoping to find the girl who's been missing since June 26.

The skyrocketing temperatures are making the search very difficult for people and animals.

"It's really hard. It's hot. It's hot for us; it's hot for the dogs. The scent conditions aren't as good," said searcher Beth Chesier.

Searchers and dogs have been seeking refuge inside a cool building to rest and drink as much water as possible before the teams hit the field again, going door to door interviewing everyone to find some clue that will lead to Lindsey.

Though the work is hard in the heat, searchers said they're glad to be part of the effort to help bring Lindsey home.

A $6,000 reward is being offered by Crimestoppers for information that helps find her.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/20204468/detail.html