Natalee Case Discussion #822 7/28/09 - 8/13/09

[mytime]

One last question!!   

If Reality had woman call him, NO ONE knows his real name yet??  That has never leaked??   

[hotping]

More house cleaning 

Based on this - Clive cannot be Reality! 

How's that?

49 is about Dave Holloway's age....So 49 would probably make Him/Clive more appealing to Robin....JMO

Myspace says he 32!!  This says he is 49....If this is true!! 

[billb's daughter]

FWIW....from today's revelations and many from the past, my dot connecting and gut feeling leads me to theorize wrt persistence and lack of reaction from Dave/ Tim M.:
Misinformation big time (initiated and sanctioned by aruba and their govt). Robin played into it for whatever reason (discredit Beth/protect Dave?). persistence took big time advantage claiming they were searching for Natalee, while all the time mapping for oil....
Tim said...that looks like a skull.....
My gut tells me: Natalee remains were in that cage.....
And this is the hard part for me...but I believe it is plausible/most likely....
Dave knows Natalee was in the cage....
Tim M. knows Natalee was in the cage
persistence traitors  ensured there is no way now to have proof positive...
To me though, that shouldn't be the end...
Dave/Tim M . need to expose whatever they can to further the investigation that may lead to Justice for Natalee...right now, for me...their silence is deafening.....

 

[billb's daughter]

Guess I'm off track this evening...
Good Night good Monkeys....
Carry on...
Justice for Natalee is right around the corner......

[wreck]

FWIW....from today's revelations and many from the past, my dot connecting and gut feeling leads me to theorize wrt persistence and lack of reaction from Dave/ Tim M.:
Misinformation big time (initiated and sanctioned by aruba and their govt). Robin played into it for whatever reason (discredit Beth/protect Dave?). persistence took big time advantage claiming they were searching for Natalee, while all the time mapping for oil....
Tim said...that looks like a skull.....
My gut tells me: Natalee remains were in that cage.....
And this is the hard part for me...but I believe it is plausible/most likely....
Dave knows Natalee was in the cage....
Tim M. knows Natalee was in the cage
persistence traitors  ensured there is no way now to have proof positive...
To me though, that shouldn't be the end...
Dave/Tim M . need to expose whatever they can to further the investigation that may lead to Justice for Natalee...right now, for me...their silence is deafening.....

 

Sadly, I agree.

[texasmom]

FWIW....from today's revelations and many from the past, my dot connecting and gut feeling leads me to theorize wrt persistence and lack of reaction from Dave/ Tim M.:
Misinformation big time (initiated and sanctioned by aruba and their govt). Robin played into it for whatever reason (discredit Beth/protect Dave?). persistence took big time advantage claiming they were searching for Natalee, while all the time mapping for oil....
Tim said...that looks like a skull.....
My gut tells me: Natalee remains were in that cage.....
And this is the hard part for me...but I believe it is plausible/most likely....
Dave knows Natalee was in the cage....
Tim M. knows Natalee was in the cage
persistence traitors  ensured there is no way now to have proof positive...
To me though, that shouldn't be the end...
Dave/Tim M . need to expose whatever they can to further the investigation that may lead to Justice for Natalee...right now, for me...their silence is deafening.....

 

I agree billb.  It makes me very sad, but I do.   

[hotping]

FWIW....from today's revelations and many from the past, my dot connecting and gut feeling leads me to theorize wrt persistence and lack of reaction from Dave/ Tim M.:
Misinformation big time (initiated and sanctioned by aruba and their govt). Robin played into it for whatever reason (discredit Beth/protect Dave?). persistence took big time advantage claiming they were searching for Natalee, while all the time mapping for oil....
Tim said...that looks like a skull.....
My gut tells me: Natalee remains were in that cage.....
And this is the hard part for me...but I believe it is plausible/most likely....
Dave knows Natalee was in the cage....
Tim M. knows Natalee was in the cage
persistence traitors  ensured there is no way now to have proof positive...
To me though, that shouldn't be the end...
Dave/Tim M . need to expose whatever they can to further the investigation that may lead to Justice for Natalee...right now, for me...their silence is deafening.....

 

Sadly, I agree.

Me Too! 

[klaasend]

One last question!!   

If Reality had woman call him, NO ONE knows his real name yet??  That has never leaked??   

Don't look at me, Reality gives me the creeps and I wouldn't give him the time of day let alone call him.   

[texasmom]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

[mytime]

FWIW....from today's revelations and many from the past, my dot connecting and gut feeling leads me to theorize wrt persistence and lack of reaction from Dave/ Tim M.:
Misinformation big time (initiated and sanctioned by aruba and their govt). Robin played into it for whatever reason (discredit Beth/protect Dave?). persistence took big time advantage claiming they were searching for Natalee, while all the time mapping for oil....
Tim said...that looks like a skull.....
My gut tells me: Natalee remains were in that cage.....
And this is the hard part for me...but I believe it is plausible/most likely....
Dave knows Natalee was in the cage....
Tim M. knows Natalee was in the cage
persistence traitors  ensured there is no way now to have proof positive...
To me though, that shouldn't be the end...
Dave/Tim M . need to expose whatever they can to further the investigation that may lead to Justice for Natalee...right now, for me...their silence is deafening.....

 

Sadly, I agree.

Me Too! 

OK, but why the pond search supposedly paid for by Dave.  I am debating you, I think Natalee was in the cage...I am just trying to learn more!!

[hotping]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

Good Questions TM.....

[wreck]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

It IS baffling.  I have ALWAYS wanted to believe that the FBI has asked the family to be quiet and "play along" while they try to nail the conspirators in the background. I have lost faith in that scenario.

[mytime]

FWIW....from today's revelations and many from the past, my dot connecting and gut feeling leads me to theorize wrt persistence and lack of reaction from Dave/ Tim M.:
Misinformation big time (initiated and sanctioned by aruba and their govt). Robin played into it for whatever reason (discredit Beth/protect Dave?). persistence took big time advantage claiming they were searching for Natalee, while all the time mapping for oil....
Tim said...that looks like a skull.....
My gut tells me: Natalee remains were in that cage.....
And this is the hard part for me...but I believe it is plausible/most likely....
Dave knows Natalee was in the cage....
Tim M. knows Natalee was in the cage
persistence traitors  ensured there is no way now to have proof positive...
To me though, that shouldn't be the end...
Dave/Tim M . need to expose whatever they can to further the investigation that may lead to Justice for Natalee...right now, for me...their silence is deafening.....

 

Sadly, I agree.

Me Too! 

OK, but why the pond search supposedly paid for by Dave.  I am NOT debating you, I think Natalee was in the cage...I am just trying to learn more!!

oops - sorry.  I am getting tired tonight! 

[mytime]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

Good Questions TM.....

Here is a terrible thought....Could Dave have been paid off?? 

[texasmom]

One last question!!   

If Reality had woman call him, NO ONE knows his real name yet??  That has never leaked??   

Don't look at me, Reality gives me the creeps and I wouldn't give him the time of day let alone call him.   

I feel the same way!  

[wreck]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

Good Questions TM.....

Here is a terrible thought....Could Dave have been paid off?? 

No -- I would NEVER believe that - NEVER.

[mytime]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

Good Questions TM.....

Here is a terrible thought....Could Dave have been paid off?? 

No -- I would NEVER believe that - NEVER.

Good!!  I just can't imagine any father doing that!! 

[texasmom]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

Good Questions TM.....

Here is a terrible thought....Could Dave have been paid off?? 

No, I don't believe that.  IMO, a blackmail scenario would be more likely.  Only to protect his family.  I'm not sure but I think that blackmail would be a crime in itself if that's the case.

JMO

[klaasend]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

Good Questions TM.....

Here is a terrible thought....Could Dave have been paid off?? 

No -- I would NEVER believe that - NEVER.

I agree with Wreck - no way. 

[mytime]

This thought has crossed my mind a couple of times tonight.
Could blackmail be part of the reason for the silence?
Taped telephone conversations?  Emails? Etc?

Just a thought.

Good Questions TM.....

Here is a terrible thought....Could Dave have been paid off?? 

No, I don't believe that.  IMO, a blackmail scenario would be more likely.  Only to protect his family.  I'm not sure but I think that blackmail would be a crime in itself if that's the case.

JMO

It is not something I ever wondered before, I just was wondering if anyone here thought it was possible.  I don't get the blackmail scenario though.  Who would be blackmailing who??