Natalee Case Discussion #822 7/28/09 - 8/13/09

[Blonde]

Blonde, I have read some of the "garbage" this dude Reality has put out on the internet.  He is a danger to society and espesically to young children.  He is a pervert who likes to stalk women over the internet. JMO

Yes he LOVES woman I can say that. I think hes all set now with GaGirl they are in love.
  

[klaasend]

Blonde - you and I will have to disagree on Reality.  If I had a rat I wouldn't trust him to take care of it.  I certainly would never call him nor would I knowingly give him any personal information on myself.

I never gave him information about myself DEBBIE did.
I was part of the Natalee Angels and when my BIO was sent to all members DEBBIE showed it to Reality he had my picture and all of my INFO thanks to DEBBIE

And that is precisely why I refused to be a part of that group and a part of the Birmingham meeting.  I didn't want my information shared with the likes of Reality/MIP6 and others.

[Blue Moon]

Blonde - you and I will have to disagree on Reality.  If I had a rat I wouldn't trust him to take care of it.  I certainly would never call him nor would I knowingly give him any personal information on myself.

I never gave him information about myself DEBBIE did.
I was part of the Natalee Angels and when my BIO was sent to all members DEBBIE showed it to Reality he had my picture and all of my INFO thanks to DEBBIE

Just what in sam hill is Debbie doing?  Just who does she work for?  Aruba.  Giviing out peoples personal info over the internet is a big No, No.  IF one of these women comes up dead I hope Debbie is questioned about her role in it.  She is a POS. jmo

[Tamikosmom]

Remember, too, that Beth had been awarded FULL custody.  Just saying. . . .

Wasn't Robin the help in Dave's office while he was married to Beth?

YES and from what I have heard she stold him from Beth.

... and Dave had no control over the situation?  Has he not heard the expresssion ... JUST SAY "NO".

Good Morning Monkeys

Janet
7:55 AM PT

[Blonde]

MOLE SAID: "He [Reality] has 16 nics at BFN. He may not be as smart as he thinks he is. Two and a half years is a long time for him to slip up. All you need is the wrong pissed of person. He has given women his phone number and supposedly has them call at a specific time. One of those women may have betrayed him. Just a guess."

I have his phone # and I did call him once, he was at school he is a teacher.
 I heard the kids ,and the school bell ring. (he said now do you believe me )
He didn't know I was going to call he gave me his # in 2005 and I called him in 2007?
He was very nice to me. He also gave me a real picture of him I can't post.
Also links of the real reality when he was fighting in the SA war IMO he in about 52-55 years old.

Blonde - how does that prove he was a teacher?  He could be a janitor or groundskeeper.  Hearing children and the bell ring means nothing to me. 

He was in class he put the phone down and said some words to the children.
Then he took the phone to a quite place so he can talk to me.
Kids kept talking to him.
 Then the school bell went off and he said now do you believe me.
He asked me to call him back after school ended but I never did.
So I just don't know.

Did the kids sound young or older like high school? Regardless I believe that You need to turn that number over to the authorities..because of what I have seen of the contents of some of his posts He has no buisness being around children...JMO He is probably a pedophile...Those kids are in danger....Again JMO

I don't have it anymore . I had a free calling card at the time and used it to make the call so their is no way of  finding it.

[hotping]

MOLE SAID: "He [Reality] has 16 nics at BFN. He may not be as smart as he thinks he is. Two and a half years is a long time for him to slip up. All you need is the wrong pissed of person. He has given women his phone number and supposedly has them call at a specific time. One of those women may have betrayed him. Just a guess."

I have his phone # and I did call him once, he was at school he is a teacher.
 I heard the kids ,and the school bell ring. (he said now do you believe me )
He didn't know I was going to call he gave me his # in 2005 and I called him in 2007?
He was very nice to me. He also gave me a real picture of him I can't post.
Also links of the real reality when he was fighting in the SA war IMO he in about 52-55 years old.

Blonde - how does that prove he was a teacher?  He could be a janitor or groundskeeper.  Hearing children and the bell ring means nothing to me. 

He was in class he put the phone down and said some words to the children.
Then he took the phone to a quite place so he can talk to me.
Kids kept talking to him.
 Then the school bell went off and he said now do you believe me.
He asked me to call him back after school ended but I never did.
So I just don't know.

Did the kids sound young or older like high school? Regardless I believe that You need to turn that number over to the authorities..because of what I have seen of the contents of some of his posts He has no buisness being around children...JMO He is probably a pedophile...Those kids are in danger....Again JMO

I don't have it anymore . I had a free calling card at the time and used it to make the call so their is no way of  finding it.

So If He is no longer in SA...Where does He live now? TIA

[can]

Blonde - to be honest, I wouldn't believe him if I was his student.

Did he ever try to explain to you why a school teacher in S.A. would be interrested in the NH case and spend so much time on the boards?

 

OK............ you made me laugh. Thanks and Morning, Klaas.

Good Morning Monkeys!

Good morning CBB!   

Good morning Monkeys!

[Blonde]

I have his IP but will not post it he lives here

Country : United Kingdom (Facts)
State/Region : Norfolk
City : Stevenage

[SunnyinTX]

MOLE SAID: "He [Reality] has 16 nics at BFN. He may not be as smart as he thinks he is. Two and a half years is a long time for him to slip up. All you need is the wrong pissed of person. He has given women his phone number and supposedly has them call at a specific time. One of those women may have betrayed him. Just a guess."

I have his phone # and I did call him once, he was at school he is a teacher.
 I heard the kids ,and the school bell ring. (he said now do you believe me )
He didn't know I was going to call he gave me his # in 2005 and I called him in 2007?
He was very nice to me. He also gave me a real picture of him I can't post.
Also links of the real reality when he was fighting in the SA war IMO he in about 52-55 years old.

Good Morning to all. I was reading and catching up. I seldom post in Natalee's thread but I do read and try to stay caught up. Blonde,  why can't you post the 'real' picture he sent to you? And how do you know it is real?   For the record I will never believe that Dave or Tim were paid off. I have met both of these men and I know in my heart there isn't enough money in the world to pay them off regarding Natalee.  Now Robin? That's a whole different ballgame. I think she would be a willing target.

[SunnyinTX]

Remember, too, that Beth had been awarded FULL custody.  Just saying. . . .

Wasn't Robin the help in Dave's office while he was married to Beth?

YES and from what I have heard she stold him from Beth.

Can you elaborate on that?

[can]

MOLE SAID: "He [Reality] has 16 nics at BFN. He may not be as smart as he thinks he is. Two and a half years is a long time for him to slip up. All you need is the wrong pissed of person. He has given women his phone number and supposedly has them call at a specific time. One of those women may have betrayed him. Just a guess."

I have his phone # and I did call him once, he was at school he is a teacher.
 I heard the kids ,and the school bell ring. (he said now do you believe me )
He didn't know I was going to call he gave me his # in 2005 and I called him in 2007?
He was very nice to me. He also gave me a real picture of him I can't post.
Also links of the real reality when he was fighting in the SA war IMO he in about 52-55 years old.

Blonde - how does that prove he was a teacher?  He could be a janitor or groundskeeper.  Hearing children and the bell ring means nothing to me. 

He was in class he put the phone down and said some words to the children.
Then he took the phone to a quite place so he can talk to me.
Kids kept talking to him.
 Then the school bell went off and he said now do you believe me.
He asked me to call him back after school ended but I never did.
So I just don't know.

Did the kids sound young or older like high school? Regardless I believe that You need to turn that number over to the authorities..because of what I have seen of the contents of some of his posts He has no buisness being around children...JMO He is probably a pedophile...Those kids are in danger....Again JMO

I don't have it anymore . I had a free calling card at the time and used it to make the call so their is no way of  finding it.

Good morning Blonde.  Above, in this quote stack you said you "have" his number.  Did you mean to say you "had" his number?
Also, am I understanding you to say that you believe Realitys position is that of a poster that takes up for those being attacked?  I'm a bit confused.  ty 
 

[SunnyinTX]

Blonde - you and I will have to disagree on Reality.  If I had a rat I wouldn't trust him to take care of it.  I certainly would never call him nor would I knowingly give him any personal information on myself.

I agree Klaas....he was always a snake and snakes are dangerous and strike without warning.

[Blonde]

I have 4 years of info on Reality I do not think he is a threat, a WOMANIZER yes.
He's just different then we are and looks at thinks different then we do.
Yes he is friends with Robin Holloway and they talked on the phone daily for a while.
He has two son's and loves them.
Yes he's a pervert to woman .
I have had no personal contact with him now in two years.

[klaasend]

I have 4 years of info on Reality I do not think he is a threat, a WOMANIZER yes.
He's just different then we are and looks at thinks different then we do.
Yes he is friends with Robin Holloway and they talked on the phone daily for a while.
He has two son's and loves them.
Yes he's a pervert to woman .
I have had no personal contact with him now in two years.

Blonde - looks like his voice got to you too?  We will have to disagree again. 

[Tamikosmom]

FWIW....from today's revelations and many from the past, my dot connecting and gut feeling leads me to theorize wrt persistence and lack of reaction from Dave/ Tim M.:
Misinformation big time (initiated and sanctioned by aruba and their govt). Robin played into it for whatever reason (discredit Beth/protect Dave?). persistence took big time advantage claiming they were searching for Natalee, while all the time mapping for oil....
Tim said...that looks like a skull.....
My gut tells me: Natalee remains were in that cage.....
And this is the hard part for me...but I believe it is plausible/most likely....
Dave knows Natalee was in the cage....
Tim M. knows Natalee was in the cage
persistence traitors  ensured there is no way now to have proof positive...
To me though, that shouldn't be the end...
Dave/Tim M . need to expose whatever they can to further the investigation that may lead to Justice for Natalee...right now, for me...their silence is deafening.....

 

Sadly, I agree.

 

[Blonde]

MOLE SAID: "He [Reality] has 16 nics at BFN. He may not be as smart as he thinks he is. Two and a half years is a long time for him to slip up. All you need is the wrong pissed of person. He has given women his phone number and supposedly has them call at a specific time. One of those women may have betrayed him. Just a guess."

I have his phone # and I did call him once, he was at school he is a teacher.
 I heard the kids ,and the school bell ring. (he said now do you believe me )
He didn't know I was going to call he gave me his # in 2005 and I called him in 2007?
He was very nice to me. He also gave me a real picture of him I can't post.
Also links of the real reality when he was fighting in the SA war IMO he in about 52-55 years old.

Blonde - how does that prove he was a teacher?  He could be a janitor or groundskeeper.  Hearing children and the bell ring means nothing to me. 

He was in class he put the phone down and said some words to the children.
Then he took the phone to a quite place so he can talk to me.
Kids kept talking to him.
 Then the school bell went off and he said now do you believe me.
He asked me to call him back after school ended but I never did.
So I just don't know.

Did the kids sound young or older like high school? Regardless I believe that You need to turn that number over to the authorities..because of what I have seen of the contents of some of his posts He has no buisness being around children...JMO He is probably a pedophile...Those kids are in danger....Again JMO

I don't have it anymore . I had a free calling card at the time and used it to make the call so their is no way of  finding it.

Good morning Blonde.  Above, in this quote stack you said you "have" his number.  Did you mean to say you "had" his number? I had his number I lost it.
Also, am I understanding you to say that you believe Realitys position is that of a poster that takes up for those being attacked? YES he likes to do that   I'm a bit confused.  ty 
 

He is a old email from him

Come and join BNH, you will be able to voice your opinion here without a problem, all opinons are welcome as long as there is no slander or bashing.

Just tell me who your are so I can approve you but use Blonde, why not.

I would love to hear your opinions now on the case.

There is some interesting stuff being posted now from both sides and like I said, all opinions are welcome.

http://nataleehome.proboards54.com/index.cgi

[jen3560]

FWIW..........

Reality's continued close association with Mark Purcell is all I need to know about the man.

That's a deviant duo if there ever was one.  And neither is up to any good.  Never has been regarding Natalee.

Knowing what we know about Purcell - the fact Reality is his bestest buddy shows me precisely where his heart and mind are regarding all of this.

IMO

[klaasend]

FWIW..........

Reality's continued close association with Mark Purcell is all I need to know about the man.

That's a deviant duo if there ever was one.  And neither is up to any good.  Never has been regarding Natalee.

Knowing what we know about Purcell - the fact Reality is his bestest buddy shows me precisely where his heart and mind are regarding all of this.

IMO

Jen - I agree 100%

[Blonde]

I have 4 years of info on Reality I do not think he is a threat, a WOMANIZER yes.
He's just different then we are and looks at thinks different then we do.
Yes he is friends with Robin Holloway and they talked on the phone daily for a while.
He has two son's and loves them.
Yes he's a pervert to woman .
I have had no personal contact with him now in two years.

Blonde - looks like his voice got to you too?  We will have to disagree again. 

NOOOOOOOOOO
 I was taking care of my Mom and just wanted out of all this drama.

This was the last email from him. I'm just saying he had a nice side.

I hope your Mom settles in with you, you wont regret having cared for her,
 I know because I did the same with both my folks.

[Tamikosmom]

FWIW..........

Reality's continued close association with Mark Purcell is all I need to know about the man.

That's a deviant duo if there ever was one.  And neither is up to any good.  Never has been regarding Natalee.

Knowing what we know about Purcell - the fact Reality is his bestest buddy shows me precisely where his heart and mind are regarding all of this.

IMO

Robin Holloway
BFN

MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank Reality for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
 
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