Natalee Case Discussion #822 7/28/09 - 8/13/09

[SuzieQ]

Hi mytime
Just finished reading what BlueMoon posted, now I need to go to bed. Goodnight to anyone still here.

[texasmom]

Hi mytime
Just finished reading what BlueMoon posted, now I need to go to bed. Goodnight to anyone still here.

Good night SuzieQ!   

[mytime]

Hi mytime
Just finished reading what BlueMoon posted, now I need to go to bed. Goodnight to anyone still here.

Good night SuzieQ.  Pleasant dreams!! 

[hotping]

Good Night SuzieQ! 

[hotping]

Good Night....klaasend, texasmom, carolinamom, SuzieQ, Artcolley, Magnolia and 2 Guests

 

[texasmom]

Good Night....klaasend, texasmom, carolinamom, SuzieQ, Artcolley, Magnolia and 2 Guests

 

Good night Hotping!  See ya tomorrow!   

[texasmom]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

[Buckeye]

IIRC

Very early, in the case, there was a windsurfer's blog.  They were chatting about Julia Renfro....she had been married briefly to a Drysdale (?sp) and had left him and Florida suddenly. They knew it was her because of her pictures. I always thought her maiden name was Renfro. I also remember her sister who moved to Hawaii.  They had some sports promotion website.   

[Blonde]

Good evening monkeys.  I have been crawling around facebook this afernoon.
Don't know if any of this means anything, but who knows what piece of information is worth something.

First, when did Hotshot move to Birmingham, Alabama (No I don't think she did, but that is what it says on her facebook.) She is friends with Charles Croes, Debbie, Alberto Groenemeldt and of course Dave (but not Robin).

Dave followed Mark Purcell actions and made everything on his site private. Robin's is still like it was but she has deleated Mark Purcell and Debbie as friends.

Finally, does any one know where Julia Renfro is from? On Debbie's page she has a lot of Renfro's listed as friends, but they are all from the states.

Still love this one 

I think Renho is from the Tampa area.  Renfro is a married name.  Father is a lawyer named Julius. I can't remember her
maiden name.

Blonde or Klaas will know.

I had this saved

FL MARRIAGE RECORD SEARCH

JULIA CHRISTINE RENFRO & GORDON TALBERT DRYSDALE
County - Orange
State - FL
Date - 01/08/87
ID# 085842

FL DIVORCE RECORD SEARCH

DONALD GAYLE RENFRO & JULIANN RENFRO
Palm Beach County
Date: 02/18/83
ID#: 009448

CLIFFORD L RENFRO & JULIA RENFRO
Palm Beach County
Date: 07/22/83
ID#: 039899

RODNEY RENFROE & JULIA RENFROE
Escambia County
Date: 09/16/80
ID#: 049361

Does Julia Renfro Have a Vested Interest?

Julia Renfro has a variety of interests in Aruba besides being the editor-in-chief of Aruba Today News Magazine and the Photo Journalists for it's sister newpaper Bon Dia.

It seems she is the contact for Windsurfing competition on Aruba.
She is connected to Aruba Travel Guide.
World-wide Travel Guide
Island Temptations.
Aruba Rentals
Sailing
And the ARS Group.

The ARS Group and World-Wide Travel Guide may be related to each other as they both cover the same types of activities but it seems that the business grew from Aruba to World-Wide.
These groups handle many types of businesses including yacht rentals, The Screamer, real estate, Villa rentals, apartments, office space, virtual offices and corporates identities, Business services to include...
Administration Services
Architectural Services
Business Brokerage Services
Car Rental Services
Charters
Cellular Phone Rental
Commercial or Residential Real Estate Services
Concierge & Reservations Services
Conference Room
Fax and Copy Services
Financial Services
Fiscal Services
Internet Services
Insurance Services

Julia has one main competitor on Aruba. That is Diario-Aruba owned by Jossy Mansur. The Mansur family has a colorful background that has been made very public with the help of Ms. Renfro and her media contacts. Ms. Renfro's background on the other hand has been kept secret.

Let's look at a few things that Ms. Renfro has had to say about this case.

"Locally there was never even a mention or a breath of concern that this was a racial issue nor a status issue," Renfro said. HUMMMMM Does 'locally' mean the Dutch community?

"It was not 200 people protesting. It was 200 people demonstrating what Aruba was about, the friendliness of the island, that Aruba was turning into a welcome mat that was just being absolutely stepped on." So it was NOT a protest but in her next breath she says....
"No question about it. I was there at the protest demonstration. And it was all about, this is who we are. This is our justice system. We believe in our justice system. Let it prevail." OK, Julia which was it? An Unbiased view.

Do you want to guess who the gardener works for? The boss that he told about the suspicious car and the 3 young men hiding in it on the night Natalee disappeared? Can you imagine why this native Aruban was afraid to come forward when his boss said that she would inform her good friend the Chief Police Commissioner.

http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/does-julia-renfro-have-vested-interest.html

[Blonde]

Editorial Director Tina Causey-Escobedo
Island Life Director Rona Coster
Copy Editor Susan Perini
Contributing Editors Fern Pochettino, Heleen Bongers,
Chris Smith
Managing Director Julia C. Renfro
Finance Director Ann Brown
Director of Photography Steve Keith
Contributing Photographer Paul van Driel
Senior Graphic Designer Kyrenia González
Creative Consultant Oxo Shahriari
Fashion Consultant Ronchie de Cuba
International Sales Manager Jacqueline Cannon-Collot
Director of Print Production Raymond J. Galvin II
Saliña Cerca 39H, Aruba,
Dutch West Indies
Tel: (297) 861247
Fax: (297) 861255
E-mail: info@island-temptations.com

[hotping]

Thanks Blonde! 

[hotping]

IIRC

Very early, in the case, there was a windsurfer's blog.  They were chatting about Julia Renfro....she had been married briefly to a Drysdale (?sp) and had left him and Florida suddenly. They knew it was her because of her pictures. I always thought her maiden name was Renfro. I also remember her sister who moved to Hawaii.  They had some sports promotion website.   

Thanks Buckeye! 

[Anna]

Long ago we had photos of a birthday dinner/party at a restaurant.  I believe it was being given in honor of JR's visiting sister.  Nothing interesting so I have long since deleted it, thinking justice would have been served by now.  Little did I know there was none to be had in Aruba.

[Anna]

Good evening monkeys.  I have been crawling around facebook this afernoon.
Don't know if any of this means anything, but who knows what piece of information is worth something.

First, when did Hotshot move to Birmingham, Alabama (No I don't think she did, but that is what it says on her facebook.) She is friends with Charles Croes, Debbie, Alberto Groenemeldt and of course Dave (but not Robin).

Dave followed Mark Purcell actions and made everything on his site private. Robin's is still like it was but she has deleted Mark Purcell and Debbie as friends.

Finally, does any one know where Julia Renfro is from? On Debbie's page she has a lot of Renfro's listed as friends, but they are all from the states.

Still love this one 

I think Renho is from the Tampa area.  Renfro is a married name.  Father is a lawyer named Julius. I can't remember her
maiden name.

Blonde or Klaas will know.

I had this saved

FL MARRIAGE RECORD SEARCH

JULIA CHRISTINE RENFRO & GORDON TALBERT DRYSDALE
County - Orange
State - FL
Date - 01/08/87
ID# 085842

FL DIVORCE RECORD SEARCH

DONALD GAYLE RENFRO & JULIANN RENFRO
Palm Beach County
Date: 02/18/83
ID#: 009448

CLIFFORD L RENFRO & JULIA RENFRO
Palm Beach County
Date: 07/22/83
ID#: 039899

RODNEY RENFROE & JULIA RENFROE
Escambia County
Date: 09/16/80
ID#: 049361

Does Julia Renfro Have a Vested Interest?

Julia Renfro has a variety of interests in Aruba besides being the editor-in-chief of Aruba Today News Magazine and the Photo Journalists for it's sister newpaper Bon Dia.

It seems she is the contact for Windsurfing competition on Aruba.
She is connected to Aruba Travel Guide.
World-wide Travel Guide
Island Temptations.
Aruba Rentals
Sailing
And the ARS Group.

The ARS Group and World-Wide Travel Guide may be related to each other as they both cover the same types of activities but it seems that the business grew from Aruba to World-Wide.
These groups handle many types of businesses including yacht rentals, The Screamer, real estate, Villa rentals, apartments, office space, virtual offices and corporates identities, Business services to include...
Administration Services
Architectural Services
Business Brokerage Services
Car Rental Services
Charters
Cellular Phone Rental
Commercial or Residential Real Estate Services
Concierge & Reservations Services
Conference Room
Fax and Copy Services
Financial Services
Fiscal Services
Internet Services
Insurance Services

Julia has one main competitor on Aruba. That is Diario-Aruba owned by Jossy Mansur. The Mansur family has a colorful background that has been made very public with the help of Ms. Renfro and her media contacts. Ms. Renfro's background on the other hand has been kept secret.

Let's look at a few things that Ms. Renfro has had to say about this case.

"Locally there was never even a mention or a breath of concern that this was a racial issue nor a status issue," Renfro said. HUMMMMM Does 'locally' mean the Dutch community?

"It was not 200 people protesting. It was 200 people demonstrating what Aruba was about, the friendliness of the island, that Aruba was turning into a welcome mat that was just being absolutely stepped on." So it was NOT a protest but in her next breath she says....
"No question about it. I was there at the protest demonstration. And it was all about, this is who we are. This is our justice system. We believe in our justice system. Let it prevail." OK, Julia which was it? An Unbiased view.

Do you want to guess who the gardener works for? The boss that he told about the suspicious car and the 3 young men hiding in it on the night Natalee disappeared? Can you imagine why this native Aruban was afraid to come forward when his boss said that she would inform her good friend the Chief Police Commissioner.

http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/does-julia-renfro-have-vested-interest.html

Hardly an area these disinformation agents are not involved in in Aruba.  That is their interest and what they want to protect, their livlihood and that often of every member of their family.  I can understand this but it should not interfere with justice.  People earn a living in resort areas where crimes against tourists are prosecuted all the time.  I think they totally misinterpret what would have happened had the obviously guilty just simply been prosecuted as you would expect.

What happens instead with the elaborate cover up is going to be far worse and much more protracted.

And from about the second day, they all had their marching orders and even had the Task Force up and going within days of Natalee's disappearance.  Also, they knew the routine from prior treatment of tourists who were crime victims. 

Always blame the tourist, smear them with lies, etc.  They all knew the drill from having done it so many times before as with Max deVries.  Not even a 14 yo was spared their smear campaign routine.  They forget the INTERNET can find the truth of their lies.  Max's mother is owed a HUGE apology for the smear campaign they launched in that tragedy.  What liars!

[Edward]

Ms. Renfro's background on the other hand has been kept secret.


Let Me Guess.. lol

1. Used to bus tables at Denny's.. Then she went to Perko's to become a waitress..
2. Human Body service specialist..
3. A CIA employee Planted on Aruba to oversee American Special Interests drug shipments.
4. Human trafficking expert..Her Motto  " U snag em and We Ship em "
5. A nobody, who showed up on Aruba one day and they never could get rid of her.

Maybe all of the above..
jmho

[klaasend]

Ms. Renfro's background on the other hand has been kept secret.


Let Me Guess.. lol

1. Used to bus tables at Denny's.. Then she went to Perko's to become a waitress..
2. Human Body service specialist..
3. A CIA employee Planted on Aruba to oversee American Special Interests drug shipments.
4. Human trafficking expert..Her Motto  " U snag em and We Ship em "
5. A nobody, who showed up on Aruba one day and they never could get rid of her.

Maybe all of the above..
jmho

#5 - and she's still a nobody

[Keepthefaith]

Today is another great day to seek Justice for Natalee Holloway!Everyday,it's a gettin' closer



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[Keepthefaith]

Today is another great day to seek Justice for Natalee Holloway!Everyday,it's a gettin' closer



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Alright..Got my shovel and my hard hat is on!Back to diggin,diggin,diggin...

[klaasend]

Long ago we had photos of a birthday dinner/party at a restaurant.  I believe it was being given in honor of JR's visiting sister.  Nothing interesting so I have long since deleted it, thinking justice would have been served by now.  Little did I know there was none to be had in Aruba.

Anna - I have that photo somewhere but I'm having problems finding it right now.  All I found was this 

[Anna]

That's a good one, too, Klaas.