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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #489 7/8 - 7/9/2006  (Read 123710 times)
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« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2006, 12:37:11 AM »

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If Deepaks cell was out of minutes where was Joran calling to get a ride at 2am to 3 am or 4 am when ever he got home


His cell was not out of minutes.  That's their tale.  Want to see mine?  There was no reason to say that except for cover.  They interjected too much superfluous information meant to fool the public and that seemed to have worked.


funny how they say they loose each other shortly after getting their drinks and how they dont find each other at closing time but they instinctively know to meet up at the car. deepak says he just goes back to the car to wait on them. he also says his cell is out of min. so what if joran and satish decided they wanted to walk to another bar? deepak would just be cooling his heels waiting in the car on them. but nooooo they all three KNEW to head straight to the car after C & C closed without calling each other (no min. remember) or finding each other in thebar. hmmmmm that always stuck out to me


I would almost guarantee you they never ran out of minutes.  They lived and will probably when do fall, will fall by technology.  It is their lifeblood and they might be out of clean drawers or clean shirts, but they will not be out of cell minutes.


i should have said that i too believe that was a lie  about his minutes and i do believe it has been contradicted by deepaks other statements
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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2006, 12:37:37 AM »

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Bath time, be back in a little bit

Shall I take my cell phone with me?? lolololol  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing


insert a Thirdstrike comment here Laughing  Laughing


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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2006, 12:42:43 AM »

Got quiet..
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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2006, 12:43:27 AM »

Hello Beautiful Monkeys!
I didn't read ALL the back pages this time, I just read the past five pages of the previous thread and waited for the thread to change over.

I'd like to comment on snuff films which were discussed in the last thread.  

A long time ago I mentioned here that the perps had most likely made a snuff film of Natalie's death. Everyone said "Bah humbug. The only real snuff films are those made in Iraq when they killed hostages on film. Snuff films are illegal. It has never been proven that a snuff film (that has nothing to do with Iraq) ever existed."

Of course. Snuff films are not out there for the public to see. The snuff film makers belong to a very secret underground organization / network because anyone making such a film would be charged with murder if apprehended. Just because we've never seen snuff films does not mean they don't exist. Such films cost a fortune because of the danger involved in filming them and distributing them. And I don't think anyone off the street could just go somewhere and hook up with someone and buy a snuff film.

I firmly believe the rape of Natalee was filmed and if she accidentally died or was killed on purpose, the camera man filmed it and all of a sudden realized they accidentally had a snuff film on their hands. But with this realization came the knowledge of how much money it was worth and how their photography status would be elevated.

I don't know if the Aruban authorities would know about it. Perhaps they only know that she died at the hands of the suspects and nothing further.

Just my humble opinion.

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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2006, 12:46:49 AM »

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got it!! another stupid question...would he have sent it to his cell via an e-mail or another way?


According to Beth it was a cell to cell transmission, however, that is what she was told by KJ and very little else.  We don't really know.  For instance, if I took a short video on my cellphone, I could email it to as many people as I wanted.  I could also transmit it to another cell phone as many times as I wanted.  The original video is on the memory card on my cell phone, all else would be copies of the original.


That's right.  The video my DIL took of the Rose Bowl nude pregnant woman and urinating man on Santa Monica was sent to me, her mother and her brother.


ok...so he opens on phone via e-mail? So..sorry stupid here..just trying to figure out if it may have been a video!! So he is transmitting to Deepak via cell to e-mail and then Deepak picks up via e-mail on his cell...would it look like a conversation then? I mean...do you know what I mean..would it appear on record as conversation between two..even though Deepak would have to access it after it was already transmitted..am I making sense?


Are you asking about a live transmission in the sense that depite the few seconde delay, the video feed is live as is the reception.?  Or are you asking if the transmission would appear on records as a phone call  or a transmission like a photo, video,  or text message?
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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2006, 12:47:21 AM »

HI Mom Louise!!
  I just cant get over what a snuff film was/is. I had to have someone explain it to me before.. and I was.. grossed out.    I never heard of it ever until  this case.  
Hugs to you Louise~Mom..  love yah chicky poo!
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« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2006, 12:48:10 AM »

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Got quiet..

Back!  I suppose you want me to entertain you with photos now..ha ha ha  Laughing
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« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2006, 12:49:14 AM »

Do we know what entity acts as the server for Aruba? Honest, I know for a fact that here, anyway, with a subpoena, the server will cough up the exact transmission for any IP address, complete with time, date and duration. Would the internet server have been involved in transmission of a video? I would think that ALL records would have been captured for Joran's and Deepak's IP address for several days surrounding Nat's disappearance.

Wasn't there mention that Paulus had instructed them to e-mail each other, so that a record COULD be established?

If something of interest existed in a memory card of a cell phone, what do you want to bet that the cell phone "swims with the fishes" at this point?

Also, an accurate record would definately exist as to when Deepak's phone ran out of minutes and when he purchased more minutes.
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« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2006, 12:49:56 AM »

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Got quiet..

Back!  I suppose you want me to entertain you with photos now..ha ha ha  Laughing


  ROFLMAO.. Ummmmmmmmm...  Uhhhhhhhhhh...
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« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2006, 12:50:26 AM »

National Enquirer Story, there are a few things in it that I think probably
aren't true, but sometimes their reporters get some good info due to all the money they pay for scoops. Take from it as you will....


HOW NATALEE WAS KILLED

By DON GENTILE

Dutch teenager Joran van der Sloot confessed to his father that he dumped
Natalee Holloway's body in shark-infested waters after she accidentally hit
her head and drowned in a drug-induced stupor on an Aruban beach.

This stunning new theory from inside the police investigation of the missing
teen emerged as her grief-stricken relatives came to terms with the fact
that Natalee was not going to be found alive - or possibly not found at all
- because the man-eating sharks may have left nothing behind.

"Her family has come to believe that she's not with us anymore. That's just
realistic," said Natalee's step-uncle Steve Parten, a Florida minister.

Natalee, from Birmingham, Ala., was last seen around 1 am on May 30 leaving
Carlos 'n Charlies, a local nightclub, with 17-year-old Joran and his
buddies Satish Kalpoe, 18, and his brother Deepak, 21. It was the last night
of Natalee's high school graduation trip with her classmates.

For the first time, police are investigating information from several
sources that a panic-stricken Joran confessed to his father Paulus that
Natalee died accidentally and that he fed her body to the sharks.

Two of those sources are Jim Dooley, a South Carolina job recruiter for the
health care industry, and his wife, Bella.

In an exclusive interview, the Dooleys said they contacted the FBI after
learning of Joran's confession to his dad during a shopping trip to a
clothing store in Charlotte, N.C. The date was June 11, just a few days
after Aruba police had arrested Joran and the Kalpoe brothers as "persons of
interest" in the case.

Dooley said the clerk at the clothing store told him that she and her
husband are very good friends with Joran's dad, Paulus van der Sloot, and
his wife, Anita. Her own son had attended school with Joran on the island
and was a close pal.

The clerk told Dooley: "Joran told his father that he and Natalee had all
been drinking and taking drugs at the nightclub. The father specifically
mentioned they took Ecstasy. Joran told his father that when they left the
club, they went to a beach on the island. Natalee was very ill and threw up
several times.

"Then she fell and hit her head on something. Joran checked her and realized
she was dead.

"Joran and others discussed an appropriate place to dump Natalee's body, a
specific place where someone would disappear forever... a spot on the island
where the waters are shark-infested."

Arubans know the shark-feeding spot very well and directed a National
Enquirer reporter to its location on the rugged north coast of the island,
where the ocean pounds the rocks and few people live.

The water there is deep and murky and sits beneath a high cliff, far away
from the beautiful beaches and posh hotel casinos on the island's southern
side.

A meatpacking plant once occupied the site. Workers there would discard meat
cuttings into the ocean. The sharks would quickly gather and go into a
feeding frenzy. To this day, dead animals are dumped into the waters at the
shark site for the sake of tourism.

The clerk continued: "Paulus van der Sloot is very worried. This was an
accidental death but his son is likely to end up going to jail because it
looks like he was covering up a murder.

"But Paulus admitted telling his son that if a body wasn't found, there
could be a chance he'd get out of jail."

According to another source close to the case, Robert Werner, headmaster of
the International School of Aruba, where Joran attended classes, also said
that Paulus van der Sloot admitted to him his son confessed that Natalee
died accidentally in a fall on a beach.

The source revealed: "Paulus told the headmaster that Joran and Natalee had
been taking drugs and decided to go for a swim. As they played in and around
the water, Natalee fell, hit her head on a rock and drowned. In a drug and
alcohol-induced panic, Joran felt he had no other choice but to dispose of
Natalee's body in the sea."

Paulus van der Sloot was arrested himself on June 23, a week after the
Dooleys reported their conversation with the clerk to the FBI. He was later
released but he could be rearrested, said Aruban authorities. He did admit
talking to his son about Natalee's disappearance, saying he advised him in
general terms that without a body there may be no way to prove a crime was
committed.

The Kalpoe brothers were also released. But they, too, could be rearrested,
Aruban authorities said. At the time of going to press, Joran remained
behind bars. His family maintains his innocence.

Published on: 07/15/2005

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/crime/63315
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« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2006, 12:50:30 AM »

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Do we know what entity acts as the server for Aruba? Honest, I know for a fact that here, anyway, with a subpoena, the server will cough up the exact transmission for any IP address, complete with time, date and duration. Would the internet server have been involved in transmission of a video? I would think that ALL records would have been captured for Joran's and Deepak's IP address for several days surrounding Nat's disappearance.

Wasn't there mention that Paulus had instructed them to e-mail each other, so that a record COULD be established?

If something of interest existed in a memory card of a cell phone, what do you want to bet that the cell phone "swims with the fishes" at this point?

Also, an accurate record would definately exist as to when Deepak's phone ran out of minutes and when he purchased more minutes.


Not sure but my guess would be setar.net
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« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2006, 12:51:27 AM »

what is the name of the series of films that show people getting killed? i never watched them but it's stuff like people being hit by trains, people committing suicide, falling of buildings or cliffs and stuff like that. those films made millions. ALL of my friends knew about them and had seen them. "Faces of Death" maybe?? anyway, i know they are not snuff films but imo it aint a very far leap there. so the market IS there. it is just underground. no doubt in my mind. I mean look at those "Saw" movies and "Hostle" they are nothing but sex tourture and death HELLO!!!!!
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« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2006, 12:51:57 AM »

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HI Mom Louise!!
  I just cant get over what a snuff film was/is. I had to have someone explain it to me before.. and I was.. grossed out.    I never heard of it ever until  this case.  
Hugs to you Louise~Mom..  love yah chicky poo!


There was a movie about a snuff killing called "8mm". Starred Nicolas Cage, I think. It was the first time that I had ever heard of it.
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« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2006, 12:52:34 AM »

for what it is worth, here are emails that deepak sent to his friend prior
to being arrested: They were sent a week after she disappeared, so obviously
plenty of time to be coached by the dad to leave a (false) 'paper trail.'


dated 6/5/2005


How are you i hope you and your family is fine.(NAME DELETED) is better i
tell you the truth , before it will be a shock for you later, but i think it
will be a shock for you right now.
The missing girl natalee hollaway,I spoke to her , sunday she left with me ,
my brother and a friend from carlos n' charlies , it was my car like the
news said she got in to, I am one of the persons of intrest , i am one the
the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .
Let see where to start i don't even know where to begin these last days
where so crazy for me i'm very tired haven't slept good in days : The story
starts sunday night when a friend of mine was playing poker at a local
casino (in the holiday inn) after he won the poker at the fourth place he
decided to get up and play some blackjack so he went to the blackjack table
and there was natalee (they were a lil drunk ) so my friend started playing
blackjack and he was winning quite good , so then natalee approached him and
introduced herself and said to him'' your a lucky guy , can you help me win
some of my money back i lost $ 360 , of my fathers money'' so my friend said
ok , why not . so he started playing and he won 100 $ for her back and he
said hey thats the best i can do for you because i doubt it i can win more
money for you so its better i quit so she said ok but at least let me buy
you a drink so they went to the bar (in the casino ). so they took a drink
and started talking etc. about school, the vacation etc.etc.afterwards my
friend had to go and she said that ''today is my last day i will be in
carlos n' charlies will you be there'' and my friend said well i have school
tomorrow i don't think so . well she begged him and he still said yes i'll
be there.So that was in the casino i was not present , i was at work so my
friend called me and said hey i met some girls in the casino and her friends
and they want us to meet them in carlos tonight do you have to work tomorrow
morning i said no , so he said pick me up later then i said ok. so i got off
my shift at 10 pm and went home took a bath had to fix something and then me
and my younger brother went to pick up my friend was around 12.10 am so i
came to his home and was talked for like 15 min and then left to go to
carlos (we all went out without or parents knew) so we arrived like 12.30 am
in carlos (carlos is closing 1 pm ) and headed straight for the bar and
bought 3 drinks my friend paid for them, so besides the bar there is a stage
and people were dancing and there was natalee dancing too (thats the first
time i saw her )and she was calling my friend to get on the stage and dance
with her my friend laughed and refused so after the song was finished she
came up to my friend and asked why he won't dance with her , i only heared
that part because i was talking to someone else so i don't know what he
responded(by then natalee was VERY drunk)so as i said i was talking to
someone when i turned i had lost my brother , natalee and my friend. well
they were announced that they were closing soon so i thought well maybe
they' re waiting for me by the car its better i go there so i went to my car
and nobody was there so i started playing music and was waiting on my
brother and my friend.i waited for like 10 min and then i saw my brother
stepping in the car and my friend who was with natalee. so i was surprised
but anyways i started the engine and my brother was besides me and my friend
and natalee were in the backseet so i started cruising in the area and asked
my friend whats going on so natalee responded to me ''hey its no prob let us
just drive around and have fun its my last night , she said you can drop me
off later at holiday inn anyways right'' i said sure why not so as i was
drove out of the carlos road and got on the mainroad there were natalees
friends and she , pushed het head out of the window and screamed something i
can't recall.so i was driving very slow to make a left to get in the next
road and then one of natalees friend screamed for her to get out of the car
, and she refused so then i stopped my car and i said natalee if your
friends want you to go with them its better you go listen to them and go
with them , she said no i will stay with you guys i will get a lift from you
anways later, so she said bye to her friends and i drove away, so then we
were just talking etc, in the car and then she said she wanted to see sharks
,it was by the lighthouse she saw them before that can we go , my friend
said ok ,deepak lets go. so on my my to the lighthouse there was music
playing and noone talking for a while when i looked in the backmirror my
friend and natalee were kissing and touching (his hands etc was in her
blouse but nothing nude or against natalees will ) so my brother siad just
leave them for a while untill we get to the lighthouse, when i arrived at
the lighthouse i said well here is the lighthouse they did not pay attention
to me , so my brother said lets return (i did not stop anywhere not for a
min only trafficlights) so after like 10 min my friend is telling me that
natalee fell asleep i said you kidding just wake her up and tell ask her if
its holiday inn for sure she is staying so my friend woke her up and
confirmed with natalee she was staying at the holiday inn, so i drove to the
lobby driveway of holiday inn and then we woke her up, she got out of the
car and fell on the floor my friend said damn she fell and then rushed out
of the same door natalee came out and picked her up immediately, after she
stood up she pushed my friend and said leave me alone or something like that
i can't recall , my friend offered to help het to her room she said no. she
he stepped in the car and while i was driving away i saw natalee walking
towards the lobby and a gentleman with a walkie talkie and black clothes
approached her and i think they were talking and i had never seen natalee
again sinds.(holiday inn has no cameras in the driveway or lobby) it was
around 2.15 am .monday i came to work normally 4- 11 pm after work i called
my friend i said whats up he said ok i'm at the raddison casino meet me
there , i said ok so i went there we played poker , we had some drinks and
chat and then we had enough and decided that this casino was booring lets go
to whyndham hotel casino . so i drove to whyndham and as i was parking my
friends dad called him and said the police is at his home with some family
members its about the girl you guys went out with yesterday , so my friend
said wait there i be there, so we rushed at my friends home and there was
the police and nataless family and it was a nightmare sinds then. the police
asked us if we knew this girl showed us a picture we said yes thats her ,
they said she was missing and eyewitness say she was the last seen with you
guys . so they asked a few more questions and we said we don't understand we
left her at holiday inn lobby drive way how could she dissapear and then
natalees stepfather jumped and said ''yes thats because after she went with
you assholes she lost'' and then my friends father jumped and said thats
enough you can't talk to the kids like that this is not the us your out of
you juristiction this is not the way i want you people out of my yard i know
the law (my friends father is e judge) so afterwards another family member
of natalee suggested to the police if we can id the security gard we said
ok. we went there there was no suck security working there as we discribed.
so then we were just standing in the lobby there were questions etc. asked
by other members , and then me and my friend walked to the car natalees mom
was sitting and we said mam you have to believe us we did not do anything
with you daughter, she was crying and said i don't believe you 2 , i promise
you i will make you life a living hell because of this . anwyas we said we
were sorry again ans that we will help in any way possible.i went home 7 pm
tuesday, i was then called 2 pm by the police for questioning i went gave a
statement they said i was a witness no suspect the same went for my brother
and my friend they were questionded and had to sign their statement also ,
the checked my car and i was clear to go , wednesday i was called again to
show them how i drove the route that day ( i could refuse was my right i
still decided to go , as did my brother and friend ) the drove us one by one
and then we were free to go again.thursday morning my friend called me (he
goes to aruba international school and his mother is a teacher there and he
is a straight A student ) in panic and said there a re family members here
at school and they are sharing flyers and the flyers said : GIRL KIDNAPPED
ASK JORAN VANDER SLOOT (thats my friends name ) the principle asked them to
leave and they did .so thats my part of the story yesterday and today it was
quiet no treathen phoncalls what we got before and i won't mention the
crazythings the newspapers etc. writes about us its to much to mention. at
home my mom is losing it she is cryimg constantly , my dad bloodpressure got
high also his hands are red , my friends home is a disaster also ,his mom is
crying constantly also his dad is pretty cool he calmes us down and talks to
us also not to worry , my brother is preety cool but on his face you see he
is worried , my friend is pretty worried also. i'm pretty worried also , we
have 2 lawyers one for my friend and one for me in case we get arrested and
charched with something his dad can't defend hin he is a judge and he is too
emotional attached .my friend has his graduation this thursday he has to go
to the states in july he has a full scholarship. i had to go to vacation
also end of this month.many politicians find we should be locked up
rightnow.We heard a lot of false alarms that she was dead , she was seen
with 2 guys , her hair is cut and is red now ,she was in a crackhouse etc,
we were arrested and , my car is by the police we confessed to murder and
rape, she went in a restaurant to buy food but none of those were true.So
(name deleted) that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in
my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family
is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other
families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because
when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had
something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.they don't
understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we
have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who
think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also
brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent
also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every
everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a
bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my
friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social
person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them


So (NAME DELETED) i will say goodbye now hope you believe me and i pray to
god that they find natalee soon and find her well so that this nightmare
ends for all of us and they we prove we had nothing to do with this, i hope
you pray for all of us say hi to everyone there hope to hear from you soon
and may god bless.........

bye bye

Deepak.



Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:26:12 +0000

Thank you for your wonderfull email you send me I really appreciate it.
Things are going better with me now , as you you know there has been 2
arrests i don't know if it comes because the information we gave or just
another tip.They were 2 security guards for a hotel nearby the holiday inn
where natalee was staying , but we don't have any further information . I
would be willing to try making an Id by the police for the 2 suspects i only
saw one of them in the news.My parents are doing better now , my friends
parents are doing well as well. Although we are almost of the hook we still
don't walk much on the streets a lot of fingers are being pointed etc. But
the press Is like trying to locate us or something i don't know this morning
my friend got a letter for nbc if we were willing to give an intervieuw for
a very good price we did not respond to them yet , we don't know if we will
give interview as yet. The local press however we won't give any interview
they sad a lot of bad things about us they should be ashamed of
theirselves.But for now its just from home to work for me , and in the
afternoons i go by my friends house we order pizza etc. and watch the news
whats going.
Anyways i have to go now , if i have any ipdates i will let you know asap.
the press is all over it so i don't think you will be missing any part of it
.
As for for natalees parents we did not hear or see them personally yet , the
police chief askes us if we would be willing to talk to them if they wanted
to talk to us . We accepted that as long they would not talk aggressive to
us as they did before.

Take care , Say hi to the others and I will mail you again


bye bye

Deepak.



Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:33:21 +0000

How is everything there. Well they did not say anything yet about the bloody
T -shirt. (she asked about the bloody mattress report)
But we are fine, everything goed normal. The only problem was that yesterday
there were like 30 reporters at my friends gate. They thought we fled the
country , what is ridiculous why would we leave,they were there for like 45
min but my friend stayed in his room did not come out the parents were
talking to them they wanted to know my adress thank god they don't know it .
As for the guards i don't know anything yet about them did said they would
decide today what they would do with them if they would charge them or
something did not understand that part, and yes its in my statement that i
am willing to try id the guard. We told the police about the guard so i
think that helped the police a lot . But for now she is just vanished i
don't understand how she could vanish like this .I never saw this before in
my life , this same girl was sitting in my car spoke to me and now she is
just lost.But anyways i'm going now , if i have any further information i
will let you know, i was planning to go to vacation 30 th of june but if
this is not solved i can kiss that vacation goodbye. Lets hope she will be
found soon and found well


Take care :

Deepak



Mickey john claims Kalpoe did not know who he was and told him the boys had
made up the HI story & they really dropped off Joran & Nat at the Mariott
Beach

3:00 am that night, per Kalpoe, he got a text msg from Joran saying they
needed to talk, Joran never called. Mickey says Deepak "was very upset,
saying he should have never left the girl alone w/ the Dutch boy"
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« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2006, 12:55:11 AM »

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got it!! another stupid question...would he have sent it to his cell via an e-mail or another way?


According to Beth it was a cell to cell transmission, however, that is what she was told by KJ and very little else.  We don't really know.  For instance, if I took a short video on my cellphone, I could email it to as many people as I wanted.  I could also transmit it to another cell phone as many times as I wanted.  The original video is on the memory card on my cell phone, all else would be copies of the original.


That's right.  The video my DIL took of the Rose Bowl nude pregnant woman and urinating man on Santa Monica was sent to me, her mother and her brother.


ok...so he opens on phone via e-mail? So..sorry stupid here..just trying to figure out if it may have been a video!! So he is transmitting to Deepak via cell to e-mail and then Deepak picks up via e-mail on his cell...would it look like a conversation then? I mean...do you know what I mean..would it appear on record as conversation between two..even though Deepak would have to access it after it was already transmitted..am I making sense?


I am sorry but I am not following you.  Have you ever had anyone transmit a picture to your cell phone?


HELLOOOO!!! did you see my post about not even being able to turn the thing on!!! haha  just trying to understand...on records..say a phone bill...would it appear as though Joran was calling that number and talking for 8 1/2 minutes and appear also on Deepak's phone bill as reciving a call for 8 1/2 minutes? In other words...if someone sends me a text..don't think I get charges for a message until I open it?!


Cell phone bills have changed here recently, not sure how those services are set up on Maniacal Island.  Now if I answer a call, I am billed.  That once was not the case.  Does anyone remember when that started?
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« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2006, 12:55:38 AM »

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what is the name of the series of films that show people getting killed? i never watched them but it's stuff like people being hit by trains, people committing suicide, falling of buildings or cliffs and stuff like that. those films made millions. ALL of my friends knew about them and had seen them. "Faces of Death" maybe?? anyway, i know they are not snuff films but imo it aint a very far leap there. so the market IS there. it is just underground. no doubt in my mind. I mean look at those "Saw" movies and "Hostle" they are nothing but sex tourture and death HELLO!!!!!


 you are right Spooky.. Faces of death.   I rented one once. not knowing what the hell it was about.. and this was years and years ago.. I was probably your age back then..   One I saw was pretty nasty.
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« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2006, 12:56:40 AM »

Dear Angie,

I also needed someone to explain to me what a snuff film is. I could not believe that such a thing existed. I met a man online who told me he was booted out of a bulletin board because he posted a pic of what appeared to be a snuff film.
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« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2006, 12:58:08 AM »

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HI Mom Louise!!
  I just cant get over what a snuff film was/is. I had to have someone explain it to me before.. and I was.. grossed out.    I never heard of it ever until  this case.  
Hugs to you Louise~Mom..  love yah chicky poo!


There was a movie about a snuff killing called "8mm". Starred Nicolas Cage, I think. It was the first time that I had ever heard of it.


  I nevr saw it CBB.. Last movie I saw with Nicolas Cage.. was he and John Travolta  in . "FACE OFF"..  (least I think John T was in it..)
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« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2006, 12:59:00 AM »

Thought I'd post this again for those who missed my earlier post.

RUN FOR NATALEE!!!

http://runfornatalee.com/
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« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2006, 12:59:58 AM »

You know, those e-mails are interesting. The language in them is in stark contrast to the taped van conversation, where every other word is a curse word. Those e-mails read as though they are a story for an English class. The van conversation was probably a bit guarded for fear of being recorded, but more true to reality. The e-mails are definately staged for public viewing, IMO.
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