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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #489 7/8 - 7/9/2006  (Read 123677 times)
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« Reply #640 on: July 08, 2006, 10:33:54 PM »

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Sander said his cell phone was stolen at school?


On SUNDAY??

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« Reply #641 on: July 08, 2006, 10:34:27 PM »

Got it.
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« Reply #642 on: July 08, 2006, 10:35:10 PM »

Why does Dennis Jacobs keep coming up in this conversation???  Oh wait I know, he's the major player in the cover up.  How stupid of me.   Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #643 on: July 08, 2006, 10:35:33 PM »

Natalee's computer was not analyzed.  She did not have a laptop with her.  She shared her computer with her mother and Matt.  She left her cellphone in her room.  Police released info that when Joran got home at 4 am he accessed a porno site.  Art thinks that strange.  Joran says it takes him a case of beer to get tipsy.  He's no cub scout.

Was there an FBi agent in thelobby of the hotel the night she vanished?  No, I don't think so.  I haven't heard that one.

What do you know abot the other girls that Joran used a date rape drug with them?  The girl that came forward is a juvenile.  She identified two others and police took statements from the.  In sept. 2005 they all withdrew their statements.  The one girl told an acquaintance that she withdrew her statement after being harrassed by Dennis Jacobs.  I was to meet with this girl twice and both times she didn't....(missed that).  She gave her story to a child advocate, part of legal system there.  Her attorney said she was date raped by Joran and his friends.  The prosecutor told the attorney she withdrew her statement.
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« Reply #644 on: July 08, 2006, 10:35:34 PM »

Maybe they went to Koen and Sander's house.  Natalee got the call off from Sander's phone??? or Sander was at Jorans??
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« Reply #645 on: July 08, 2006, 10:38:16 PM »

Any info on bones found?  We tried to follow up on that and they did not turn them in to a medical examiner.  One officer took a bone to a clinic and the dr. said it was a donkey bone.  Another bone found in Venezuela was an arm bone and hand.  Send to Caracas for investigation.  When it got there they said it was a mannequin.  Caracas said we sent it, don't know what happened to it.  Art saw pictures of bone, and couldn't get over how it turned into a mannequin.  Lots of bizarre things in this case. Goes back that Natalee was seen last alive with these three boys.  They lies about dropping her off.  You follow the lies, you can usually solve the case.
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« Reply #646 on: July 08, 2006, 10:38:38 PM »

so that was a human arm...... I cannot believe all that we are hearing... OMG... how can they get closure with all the cover up? Twisted Evil   Twisted Evil
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« Reply #647 on: July 08, 2006, 10:38:48 PM »

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Maybe they went to Koen and Sander's house.  Natalee got the call off from Sander's phone??? or Sander was at Jorans??


Could be!  Interesting that a well connected, successful businessman would sell that house, the car, the boat and flee with his family to the Netherlands... got something to hide?
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« Reply #648 on: July 08, 2006, 10:38:48 PM »

BACK TO THE THREE PIMPS..  Thank God for people like Dana, Jossy and Art...
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« Reply #649 on: July 08, 2006, 10:39:45 PM »

Now talking about the Mary Winkler case.  How difficult is it to help someone who spends their life helping others?  Okay, now talking about Winkler case, so I'll quit reporting.  Over and out.
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« Reply #650 on: July 08, 2006, 10:39:48 PM »

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Maybe they went to Koen and Sander's house.  Natalee got the call off from Sander's phone??? or Sander was at Jorans??



I would vote for being at Joren's OR he received a copy of the video on his cell phone???
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« Reply #651 on: July 08, 2006, 10:40:03 PM »

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Maybe they went to Koen and Sander's house.  Natalee got the call off from Sander's phone??? or Sander was at Jorans??


Could be!  Interesting that a well connected, successful businessman would sell that house, the car, the boat and flee with his family to the Netherlands... got something to hide?


Plus, didn't his mom have a dress shop??
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« Reply #652 on: July 08, 2006, 10:40:04 PM »

Doesn't hearing all that make you so furious that you feel like your head is going to explode?
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« Reply #653 on: July 08, 2006, 10:40:36 PM »

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Maybe they went to Koen and Sander's house.  Natalee got the call off from Sander's phone??? or Sander was at Jorans??


Or he received a copy of the video??
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« Reply #654 on: July 08, 2006, 10:41:09 PM »

I feel so sorry for Beth and Dave what they are going through.. They had to deal with the death of their daughter and then all this other &(&(&( from Aruba.. Kinda hard to feel too much compassion for Aruba..
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« Reply #655 on: July 08, 2006, 10:41:11 PM »

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Maybe they went to Koen and Sander's house.  Natalee got the call off from Sander's phone??? or Sander was at Jorans??



I would vote for being at Joren's OR he received a copy of the video on his cell phone???


Or they borrowed his cell phone because it had the best video...then tossed it in the ocean??
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« Reply #656 on: July 08, 2006, 10:41:12 PM »

I missed the middle of the interview, but from what I gather, the best way for Beth and Dave to get justice for Natalee is to have the FBI take over this case.  That can only happen when Aruba closes the case.
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« Reply #657 on: July 08, 2006, 10:41:24 PM »

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Now talking about the Mary Winkler case.  How difficult is it to help someone who spends their life helping others?  Okay, now talking about Winkler case, so I'll quit reporting.  Over and out.


AZ Lady...thank you so much, missed so much of this, and you filled in everything beautifully. !
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« Reply #658 on: July 08, 2006, 10:41:43 PM »

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Now talking about the Mary Winkler case.  How difficult is it to help someone who spends their life helping others?  Okay, now talking about Winkler case, so I'll quit reporting.  Over and out.



thanks for all of that transcribing AZ and San.....


I am going to hang out and listen to the Winkler case... that one isn't like Natalee... but it's interesting...
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« Reply #659 on: July 08, 2006, 10:41:45 PM »

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Maybe they went to Koen and Sander's house.  Natalee got the call off from Sander's phone??? or Sander was at Jorans??


Could be!  Interesting that a well connected, successful businessman would sell that house, the car, the boat and flee with his family to the Netherlands... got something to hide?


Plus, didn't his mom have a dress shop??


I was thinking that was Lorenzo's mom but... heck...I get so confused with all the characters in this case.  lol
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