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« on: July 15, 2009, 01:32:59 PM »

I would appreciate if Monkeys could refrain from posting in this thread until I have posted the entire document.

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THE LINDSEY BAUM CASE – TIMELINE

Friday, June 26, 2009:  8:15 PM – 9:30 PM


01.  MCCLEARY VIDEO
02.  THE BAUM RESIDENCE
03.  THE ARGUMENT
04.  THE INTERVENTION
05.  THE BIKE?
06.  THE KAMPEN RESIDENCE
07.  THE SHORT WALK HOME - WITNESSES
08.  WHERE IS LINDSEY!
09.  RUNAWAY THEORY
10. IN THE PROCESS OF ELIMINATION



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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 01:35:33 PM »

01.  MCCLEARY VIDEO

Lindsey Baum is observed at the McCleary Video with a group of friends.

Linda Cunningham

The Olympian – June 30, 2009

MCCLEARY – ... Linda Cunningham, owner of McCleary Video, said she remembers Lindsey coming into her store with a group of friends to rent movies around 8:15 Friday night. “They were all laughing and joking and having a good time.”

http://www.theolympian.com/southsound/story/896613.html


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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #992 on: July 04, 2009, 09:13:38 PM »


Video store - Took place at 8:19 according to the video store records - so it happened before she went home to change. The video store is less than 1/2  block from where the girls were swimming and they went to the video store with the friends who they were swimming with.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg864342;topicseen#msg864342
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 01:37:29 PM »

02.  THE BAUM RESIDENCE

After leaving McCleary Video … Lindsey Baum returns home to change.

Kara Kampen

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #670 on: July 03, 2009, 04:19:16 PM »


They were at Lindsey's house right before heading to my house. Lindsey bathed and changed clothes because they had been swimming all day at a friends house.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg862911;topicseen#msg862911
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 01:40:14 PM »

03.  THE ARGUMENT

After changing clothes …  Melissa Baum sets out with her brother and friend on a four block walk to friend’s home.  Somewhere along the route … an argument erupted.

Kara Kampen

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1660 on: July 08, 2009, 09:00:55 PM »


Re: The Bike - The bike did not have a chain on it so it couldn't be ridden. Lindsey wanted Josh to take it home but she was the one who took it from the house and was pushing herself around on it so he felt she should have to take it back. That is what the fight was over.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg870452#msg870452


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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #670 on: July 03, 2009, 04:19:16 PM »


The bike did not have a chain (it belonged to her brother) and she was pushing herself around on it (from her house to the Shell station). After some time (when they reached the back of the Shell station) it became bothersome to Lindsey and she wanted her brother to take the bike home he didn't want to and wanted her to take it home. That started the argument.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg862911;topicseen#msg862911

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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 01:42:30 PM »

04.  THE INTERVENTION

Did the argument between Lindsey and her brother escalate to a such a degree that a family friend felt compelled to intervene?

Melissa Baum

ABC News – June 30, 2009


Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother, Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house.

Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1


Kara Kampen

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1936 on: July 10, 2009, 07:07:48 PM
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The conversation was apparently quite short and consisted of little more then a "Josh you need to go home" Josh trying to explain what was going on and the girls asking the lady to tell Josh to go home again.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg864342;topicseen#msg864342


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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1578 on: July 07, 2009, 10:37:19 PM »


As for the argument: according to my daughter right now: it started at Shell station (this is where they left the bike) then they continued walking til they were on Maple.  … They were several houses down from mine when the family friend (who apparently was visiting a another friend on this street) told Josh to go home.   

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg868953#msg868953

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 01:44:05 PM »

05.  THE BIKE?

Obviously LE considered the argument between Lindsey and her brother of little importance in the big picture of events encompassing the investigation into the disappearance of the little girl.

Kara Kampen

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1653 on: July 08, 2009, 08:48:14 PM »


… The bike stayed at the Shell station. It was not picked up until 2 to 3 days after.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg870434#msg870434

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 01:49:23 PM »

06.  THE KAMPEN RESIDENCE

Lindsey Baum was not granted the anticipated permission that would have allowed her  to spend the night with her friend Michaela.

Kara Kampen

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #670 on: July 03, 2009, 04:19:16 PM »


I did tell her no to staying the night as did my old man. I told her no because I was trying to write that night and we were suppose to go out the following morning to look for seashells (I wanted to try making seashell candles). When the girls are together they don't like to sleep and are very loud. - Scott (my old man) had said no because he works nights typically (not that night though) and has very little time home. And the time he usually is home our house is typically full with my kids (4) and their friends so he was hoping for some peace and quiet.

Lindsey stayed for maybe 5 minutes but I don't even think it was a full 5 minutes before heading back home.

She left before 9:30 probably closer to 9:15.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg862911;topicseen#msg862911


Melissa Baum

ABC News – June 30, 2009


When Lindsey's friend found out she couldn't stay the night,  Lindsey headed for home around 9:30 p.m.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1


Kara Kampen

The Daily World – July 3, 2009


Kara Kampen said she thought nothing of it when Lindsey Baum walked out of her house at about 9:15 p.m. last Friday.

http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt


Scott Williams

KOMO News – June 28, 2009


The friend's father, Scott Williams, said he asked Lindsey to go home before it got too dark.

"She was here 10, 15 minutes, and then, you know, we said, 'You should probably get going before it gets dark,' and that was the last we heard of her," he said.

Witnesses say Lindsey seemed normal as she headed out around 9:15.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 01:54:32 PM »

07.  THE SHORT WALK HOME - WITNESSES

Witnesses observed Lindsey Baum on the Maple Street route  within two blocks of her home on the night she disappeared.

KOMO News – June 28, 2009

Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk. But something happened in that short distance - Lindsey never arrived home ...

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html


Melissa Baum

ABC News – June 30, 2009


When Lindsey's friend found out she couldn't stay the night, Lindsey headed for home around 9:30 p.m.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1


Kara Kampen

KING5 News – June 29, 2009


Michaela Campen is the last person known to have seen Lindsay. The girls were at Michaela's home around 9:30 Friday night, hoping Lindsay could sleep over.
"I told her you need to head home, it's getting dark soon, a half hour of light left.  She put on her shoes and headed home," said Kara Campen.
Lindsay was alone for that nearly half-mile walk.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31598435/ns/local_news-seattle_wa/
 

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #992 on: July 04, 2009, 09:13:38 PM »

 
When Lindsey left my house she headed down maple street - my daughter watched her until the neighbors trees got in the way that would have been before she hit the corner of 7th and Maple.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg864342;topicseen#msg864342


Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott

ABC News – June 30, 2009


Scott said witnesses were able to put Lindsey within a couple of blocks of her house just after 9:30 p.m. The last person reported to have seen her, he said, was a neighbor on her way to work.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=7966924&page=2


Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott

The Daily Word – July 2, 2009


Scott said a second person came forward Tuesday with a confirmed sighting of Baum from Friday night in the same area along Maple Street near Fifth Street.

http://**/articles/2009/07/02/local_news/doc4a4cf43c1b1dd881132403.txt
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 01:58:34 PM »

08.  WHERE IS LINDSEY!

Following her childrens’ curfew time of 10:00 PM … Melissa Baum became concerned that her daughter had not returned home and ... acted accordingly.

Melissa Baum

KING5 News – June 29, 2009


Her mother called police shortly before 11:00 Friday night to report her missing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31598435/ns/local_news-seattle_wa/


Melissa Baum

ABC News – June 30, 2009


"When she wasn't home by 10, I started to get nervous," Baum said, adding that 10 p.m. is the curfew for her children.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1


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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1085 on: July 05, 2009, 05:39:45 AM »


I believe it was 10:25 when I got the call. I am not sure if she tried previous to that because my battery was drained and charging and I have a majorly cheap phone that works only when it wants to.

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 02:02:04 PM »

09.  RUNAWAY THEORY

According to Lindsey Baum’s mother … her little girl was afraid of the dark.  As dark was quickly closing in at 9:30 PM on the evening of June 26, 2009 … would Lindsey have diverted from the Maple Street route and make a sudden decision to runaway within two blocks of her home?  Think about it.  Lindsey had no money … no change of clothes or … her cell phone and … a few minutes earlier … Lindsey had hoped to spend the night with Michaela at the Kampen/Williams residence.

Melissa Baum
 
The Daily World – July 1, 2009


Lindsey Baum is afraid of the dark.

She’s also a bit superstitious.

Combine the two and during the so-called Witching Hour between midnight and 1 a.m., the 10-year-old McCleary girl won’t even set foot out the door, her family says.

Her mother Melissa Baum describes an incident a few weeks ago in which Lindsey had left something in the family car late at night and wanted to retrieve it but wouldn’t go out until the Witching Hour was over.

That’s why it makes no sense to Baum that her little girl would have wandered away late at night. Baum and members of her family think Lindsey was abducted when she was walking back from a friend’s house some four blocks from her home, where she lives with her mom and 12-year-old brother, Josh.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt


Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott

The Daily World – July 1, 2009


Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott said an abduction scenario is entirely possible, but investigators are also not discounting the notion that Lindsey ran away from home or got hurt somewhere and couldn’t get back home.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt


Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott

KIRO - June 13, 2009


Authorities have been working on the theory that she might have run away to Tennessee, where her father lives.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/20040149/detail.html
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 02:19:12 PM »

10. IN THE PROCESS OF ELIMINATION

A. JOSH BRAUM

I am not accusing Josh Bram of being involved in Lindsey’s disappearance but when the argument which occurred minutes earlier between Lindsey and her brother is considered as well as other underlying factors … it is my contention that unless questioned and ruled out  Josh Baum cannot be disregarded as a person of interest in regards to a connection with his sister as she walked the final two blocks home or … following her arrival at home.

Lindsey Baum:  Facebook Entry

TWILIGHT FREAK is happy that her brother is going to juvi tomorrow.Mood: happ at 14:10 17 Jun view more

Lindsey Baum is happy that her brother is going to juvie tomorrow.
Mood: Happ at 14:10 17 June

http://www.myspace.com/477760045


Melissa Baum:  Physical Confrontation

KING 5 News – July 2, 2009

If a stranger kidnapped 10-year-old Lindsey Baum, her mother says the girl would have put up a fight

“She has very long fingernails,” said Melissa Baum. “Her brother is proof enough of that.”

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_070209WAB-mccleary-KS.67b0a9.html


Melissa Baum:  Heated Argument

ABC News - June 30, 2009


Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother, Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house.

Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1


Residents of McCleary Speak Out

mlachester 1 day ago wrote:


To answer the questions everyone has asked, Yes I have talked to police and as far as things being unfounded its more of lazy work by cps and I don't know what the police were thinking. Since Lindsey has gone missing I have helped serch and put fliers up. I was called by the agents investigating and told them what I know. And this is no nick name everyone in McCleary knows who I am. Its no big secret she had came to my house to call 911 when her brother had done things to her. I hope lindsey is hiding and she finds a way to get to someone for help to tell them why. But as everyday gose by the fear gets worse.

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_063009WAB-Mccleary-girl-search-LJ.1fc0b759.html?ocp=2#slcgm_comments_anchor

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mlachester 2 hours ago wrote:

I am close to her and I know a lot more than the media or law enforcement are saying right now. … Sorry if you don't like the truth but I have never been one to keep the truth in and she should of been taken the first time she called 911 from my house asking for help instead of put in a police car and taken back to her abuser!"

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stor...omments_anchor

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mamahead 13 hours ago wrote:
 
Lindsey has been afraid of her brother for a very long time. He has threatned her many times. Where is she? And why is the mother not crazy with sadness or emotion. Show us some tears. The friend that Lindsey was last with shows more emotion than the mother. And why was the brother begging for money for fireworks at his little sisters candlelight vigil?

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_070609WAB-missing-mccleary-girl-SW.14c01624.html

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1762 on: July 09, 2009, 12:42:02 AM »


*** Does Lindsey's brother have a standing reputation in the community ??

Yes, not a real good one - with the kids at least. I have not met anyone who claims to be his friend.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg870856#msg870856

Credit:  Kara Kampen – Mother of Lindsey’s friend Michael.


KaraK
Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1602 on: July 08, 2009, 01:51:08 AM »


Lindsey's brother has a temper but to seriously hurt her I do not think so -  I've seen them fight and argue numerous times and know he gets mad for a minute and then he's over it. They both are a bit temperamental but he especially thinks highly of Lindsey and nothing in me since she's gone missing made me think he was any way involved. - Now that is just my gut feeling topped with the lack of any form of transportation.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg869280;topicseen#msg869280

Credit:  Kara Kampen – Mother of Lindsey’s friend Michaela.


KaraK
Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1809 on: July 09, 2009, 04:33:45 AM »


Josh had gotten into so many spats that honestly were in a large part things he did not start but because he was the oldest he was the one who got in trouble. I've set down kids I've never met before to have a talk with them because I heard that they were antagonizing him to see if he'd blow up.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871164;topicseen#msg871164

Credit:  Kara Kampen – Mother of Lindsey’s friend Michael.


KaraK
Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1795 on: July 09, 2009, 03:13:01 AM »


I am no Dr and I never dug but he does take medication for some condition - more mental than physical. He is not what kids would call "cool" and strikes you as being younger than he actually is if you talk to him. He came over a few times and we'd talk about something and he'd start jabbering about something completely off topic - when we were all out looking for Lindsey I was trying to talk to him about where we'd already looked and he just wanted to know if my son could come over the next day. So I guess you could say unfocused.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871046;topicseen#msg871046

Credit:  Kara Kampen – Mother of Lindsey’s friend Michaela


B. WAYNE WATNE

I am not accusing Wayne Watne of being a participant in the disappearance of Lindsey Baum but … considering the location of his residence in relation to the Baum residence ... considering the route taken by Lindsey when walking home the night she went missing … considering the time of the witness sighting on Fifth and Maple and ... considering Wayne Watne’s connection to both Josh and Lindsey ... is it possible there was an encounter with Lindsey at approximately 9:30 PM on the evening of June 26, 2009?

Wayne Watne - Residential Address

400 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(05/2008-05/2008)
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The Daily World – July 1, 2009

Lindsey was in Girl Scouts. She went to church at the Evergreen Christian Center in McCleary, an offshoot of a larger church in west Olympia.
 http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt


The Daily World – July 1, 2009

Wayne Watne of Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia and two other local ministers said prayers for Lindsey’s return. Watne took speakers from the assembled crowd. Friends of the family stepped up, taking turns expressing their hope and their pain.
http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4baa38c6082474655699


KaraK
Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1245 on: July 05, 2009, 11:23:14 PM »


Josh does not have any regular friends that I am aware of but I will ask around but I know Wayne Watne tries to help out there by taking him fishing and there may be other adults and such that have stepped in to provide friendship as well. Most of the time that I see Josh he is hanging out with Lindsey and my 10 and 11 yr old.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg865772#msg865772


Examiner - July 1, 2009

Lindsey’s Girl Scout troop leader, Becky Spalding said, “I had to tell her to be quiet because she was laughing all the time. It’s very unbelievable. You see this on the news, but you never know anyone who it’s happened to.”

Wayne Watne, a member of the Evergreen Christian Community Church and representative of Harvest Vision Ministries said prayers for Lindsey’s return.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d1-Emotional-vigil-held-for-missing-Washington-girl-Lindsey-Baum


Wayne Watne – Research Thread

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5614.0

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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 02:22:15 PM »

THE END!!
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 03:06:34 PM »

THE SECURITY CAMERA

It is beyond my comprehend why security camera at the Shell station failed to pick up an image of Lindsey, Josh or Michaela as they passed by or when the bike was stashed.  Then the security camera again failed to pick up an image of Lindsey as she made her way home from the Kampen/Williams residence.

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1578 on: July 07, 2009, 10:37:19 PM »


As for the argument: according to my daughter right now: it started at Shell station (this is where they left the bike) then they continued walking til they were on Maple ....

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ABC News - June 30, 2009

Scott said that there were a few businesses located just off the street Lindsey would have used to get home, and while the little girl did not appear in any of the videos, police have received clues about who was in the area at the time she disappeared.

 http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=7966924&page=2


THE TRACKING DOGS

Why was Lindsey's scent not picked up by these dogs.  Think about it ... the Maple Street route was taken by her both coming and going that night.


BLOODHOUNDS

KOMO News - June 28, 2009

A wide-ranging search was launched early Saturday in the town and the surrounding forests. The town was criss-crossed three times, but not a trace of Lindsey has been found. Even bloodhounds failed to pick up her scent.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html


The Daily World = July 2, 2009

Scott said authorities have run into several dead ends with almost no signs of the 4-foot-9, brown-haired girl, who was last spotted wearing a blue pullover shirt and blue jeans.

“I don’t know anything more than I knew Saturday afternoon,” he said, “but I’m not willing to admit that I know anything less.”

Scott said bloodhounds traced the route Lindsey took early on from the friend’s house to her own home, but didn’t find any scent. And in places where Lindsey once played — parks and by the creek — Lindsey’s scent has been vanishing.

The loss of scent could be a combination of factors — the heat on the sidewalk could have dissipated it for instance, he said.

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2009, 12:36:43 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 12:01:47 PM »



CBS - The Early Show - July 13, 2009

Video:
The search continues for an 11-year-old Wash. girl who disappeared.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/13/earlyshow/main5154789.shtml

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SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!

Melissa Baum's words to Julie Chen (The Early Show) imply that her daughter left the Kampen/William's residence at approximately 10:00 PM not ... 9:15 PM.

Melissa claimed that her concern when Lindsey had not arrived home by her curfew prompted a call to Kara Kampen who informed her that Lindsey had left her residence 30 minutes earlier.  Kara's own words on this forum implied that the call from Melissa was received at approximately 10:25 PM

 

Janet

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09:15 PM - Lindsey leaves the Kampen/Williams's residence.
09:30 PM - Lindsey is observed by a neighbour on Maple Street ... two blocks from home.
10:25 PM - Melissa Baum contacts Kara Kampen.
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9:15 PM

KARA KAMPEN

The Daily World - July 3, 2009


McCLEARY — Kara Kampen said she thought nothing of it when Lindsey Baum walked out of her house at about 9:15 p.m. last Friday.

http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt


9:15 PM

SCOTT WILLIAMS

KOMO News - June 28, 2009


Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk. But something happened in that short distance - Lindsey never arrived home ...

The friend's father, Scott Williams, said he asked Lindsey to go home before it got too dark.

"She was here 10, 15 minutes, and then, you know, we said, 'You should probably get going before it gets dark,' and that was the last we heard of her," he said.

Witnesses say Lindsey seemed normal as she headed out around 9:15.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html


9:30 PM

UNDERSHERIFF RICK SCOTT

ABC News – June 30, 2009

Scott said witnesses were able to put Lindsey within a couple of blocks of her house just after 9:30 p.m. The last person reported to have seen her, he said, was a neighbor on her way to work.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=7966924&page=2


10:25 PM

KARA KAMPEN

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« Reply #1085 on: July 05, 2009, 05:39:45 AM »


I believe it was 10:25 when I got the call. I am not sure if she tried previous to that because my battery was drained and charging and I have a majorly cheap phone that works only when it wants to.

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2009, 10:30:31 PM »

INTHE PROCESS OF ELIMINATION

JOSH BAUM



What led LE to focus in and conduct "six" searches of Mullin Creek within four days of Lindsey Baum disappearance.

Is the location of this Creek search anywhere near that two block stretch between 5th on Maple and the Baum residence?

Thank you.

Janet

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Search ramps up for McCleary girl
10:19 PM PDT on Tuesday, June 30, 2009


After four days, searchers say they're trying to remain optimistic. Today Grays Harbor County called in the State Patrol's plane for help.

More dogs were called out to look in the neighborhood where Lindsey was last seen walking home from a friend's house Friday night.

Every option is still on the table for police, who say Lindsey could have been injured, lost, kidnapped or just ran away.

"We have not found evidence, we have not found circumstances, witnesses or information that speaks specifically as to what happened to Lindsey," said Scott.

Instead of kids playing in Jim Mullin's creek, search dogs were back on his property. It's the sixth time his place has been searched.

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_063009WAB-Mccleary-girl-search-LJ.1fc0b759.html


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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2009, 10:33:20 PM »


Janet, I strongly agree with you on this.  If we cannot consider or discuss Josh, the only one fighting with Lindsey that last day, then we have no reason to be here.  The reasons given for not looking at him are not compelling to me.    A moment of uncontrolled rage and a little help with cleanup is all it would have required for Josh to be involved.   Feeling sorry for Josh is not the point here; finding Lindsey is.   

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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2009, 10:36:26 PM »

What has been revealed in regards to the various troubling issues encompassing Josh Baum ... I too feel for this young man.  Nevertheless ... considering the heated argument just prior to his sister's disappearance ... the heated argument that dictated intervention by a family friend ... Josh Baum must be considered a person of interest until eliminated by LE.  In the name of justice for Lindsey Baum ... no person of interest should be given a free pass.

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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2009, 10:38:21 PM »

THE TRACKING DOGS

Why was Lindsey's scent not picked up by these dogs shortly following her disappearance.  Think about it ... the Maple Street route was taken by Lindsey both going to and coming from the Kampen/Williams residence.

Something is not right.

Janet

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KOMO News - June 28, 2009

A wide-ranging search was launched early Saturday in the town and the surrounding forests. The town was criss-crossed three times, but not a trace of Lindsey has been found. Even bloodhounds failed to pick up her scent.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html


The Daily World - July 2, 2009

Scott said authorities have run into several dead ends with almost no signs of the 4-foot-9, brown-haired girl, who was last spotted wearing a blue pullover shirt and blue jeans.

“I don’t know anything more than I knew Saturday afternoon,” he said, “but I’m not willing to admit that I know anything less.”

Scott said bloodhounds traced the route Lindsey took early on from the friend’s house to her own home, but didn’t find any scent. And in places where Lindsey once played — parks and by the creek — Lindsey’s scent has been vanishing.

The loss of scent could be a combination of factors — the heat on the sidewalk could have dissipated it for instance, he said.

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2009, 10:43:15 PM »

KaraK

I would appreciated if you answer my question directly ... "What time did Josh Baum arrive home on the evening his sister disappeared?"

Janet

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1.  KAMPEN/WILLIAMS

Considering Scott Williams passed a polygraph and ... there was a confirmed sighting of Lindsey at Fifth on Maple at 9:30 PM which would coinside with the approximate time she left your home (9:15 PM - 9:30 PM) ... this would elminate you and Scott as persons of interest.


2.  MELISSA BAUM

Considering Melissa Baum pass a polygraph ... this would eliminate her as a person of interest that had anything to do with Lindsey's disappearance or direct knowledge at that point in time.


3.  JOSH BAUM

Quote from: KaraK on August 03, 2009, 07:33:53 AM
What I know did not happen: She did NOT run away – she was not harmed by her mother or her brother – she was not harmed by anyone in my family[/b]

Considering your words ... I would assume that Josh Baum was home with his Mom at 9:30 PM ... the time of the last confirmed sighting of Lindsey.  In other words ... he went home as per the instructions of the family friend who intervened in the argument.  There was no possibility of chance encounter with Lindsey in that two block stretch between Fifth on Maple and home.  Am I correct with that assumption?
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