Lindsey Baum #3 7/28/09 - 8/26/09

[KarmaRoundUp]

Thanks he does take great pictures, really lets you get a feel for the area.  And thanks Sister for the info on KaraK. 

You're welcome
I found it fascinating all of those beer cans out in the middle of no where.

[KarmaRoundUp]

An older guy matching the age of Richard Allen Phernetton that was arrested 7/20 in Montesanto was let go by the Strattleline ORV Park around the time of the search.  I don't know if it is the same person, but there can't be too many let go around that time.  I also heard he had his computer and car confiscated.  I hope someone digs a little more into this.  Also, where is karak?  She has over 125 posts from 6/28 to 7/17 and only 2 since.  She had a lot of information and may even know something about this Allen guy.  Now she seems to be very silent.  Does she know something she does not want to share?

http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/InmateDetail.asp?SrchNameNo=85120

[KarmaRoundUp]

An older guy matching the age of Richard Allen Phernetton that was arrested 7/20 in Montesanto was let go by the Strattleline ORV Park around the time of the search.  I don't know if it is the same person, but there can't be too many let go around that time.  I also heard he had his computer and car confiscated.  I hope someone digs a little more into this.  Also, where is karak?  She has over 125 posts from 6/28 to 7/17 and only 2 since.  She had a lot of information and may even know something about this Allen guy.  Now she seems to be very silent.  Does she know something she does not want to share?

We had posters here researching this guy named above(look in the beginning of this thread,7/27/28/09 and in thread #2,7/20/21/09)
Here is something Love4Ever posted....so this guy is a SO I'm just not sure where all the research led to.

Love4Ever wrote:
PHERNETTON, RICHARD ALLEN
Booked
7/20/2009 21:00   
Statute:
10.88.320 - Fugitive From Justice Other St
Offense:
SOFF - Sex Offense
Arrest Type:
PC
Charging Agency:
MPD-Montesano Police Department
Court:
SC2-GHC Superior Court 2
Cause No:
09-1-307-9
Released
7/31/2009 09:00   
Bail Amount:
No Bail
Disposition:
ROA-Released to Other Agency

[Heidismom]

HeidisMom wrote:

The Beehive is between 6th & 7th  Doubt that info is important tho.  Your theory is a distinct possibility, I used to work there, & some family members that visited were quite "interesting"

Hi HeidisMom
But KaraK lives in the 600 block between 6th and 7th and the BeeHive addy is 401 Maple so I assumed it was located in the 400 block between 4th and 5th?

I don't know where they start their numbers here, the Beehive is definitely between 6th & 7th, the Beehive sign is on the corner of 6th & Maple.  Fir is the other street encompassing the Beehive.

If Karak  lives in the peachy colored house she & her daughter are standing in front of in the picture, that house is between 7th & 8th, (if there was an 8th there)  actually the street ends with big cyclone  fence gates  for the sewer treatment plant.  The map shown yesterday is a little dated, 8th does not meet with Maple.  Also , on the map, it shows a big field at 6th & Fir.  That has been developed, & has 4 new houses on it, 2 on 6th st, & 2 on 5th.  The ditch (or creek) is still there, & kids still played there,  but it is quite a  narrow strip now.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Thanks for the location info on the Beehive and KaraK's house.I now have to rethink about those locations as it seems I was off on the number streets.

While looking for info on the BeeHive,I ran across this below and I don't know if it's just me but this gives me a weird feeling.......This group does a mediation workshop at the BeeHive for elderly folks.Does anyone know if DD or other researchers looked into this group?


http://www.plummountain.org/?cat=3

McCleary connection:

http://www.plummountain.org/?p=125

[Heidismom]

Thanks for the location info on the Beehive and KaraK's house.I now have to rethink about those locations as it seems I was off on the number streets.

While looking for info on the BeeHive,I ran across this below and I don't know if it's just me but this gives me a weird feeling.......This group does a mediation workshop at the BeeHive for elderly folks.Does anyone know if DD or other researchers looked into this group?


http://www.plummountain.org/?cat=3

McCleary connection:

http://www.plummountain.org/?p=125

I am surprised.  The Beehive, as far as I know, is owned-operated by LDS.  I had not heard of this Plum Mountain group at all, although I knew other denominations came in  & held services on Sundays, but more mainstream religions.  How did you ever find that? 

[KarmaRoundUp]

Thanks for the location info on the Beehive and KaraK's house.I now have to rethink about those locations as it seems I was off on the number streets.

While looking for info on the BeeHive,I ran across this below and I don't know if it's just me but this gives me a weird feeling.......This group does a mediation workshop at the BeeHive for elderly folks.Does anyone know if DD or other researchers looked into this group?


http://www.plummountain.org/?cat=3

McCleary connection:

http://www.plummountain.org/?p=125

I am surprised.  The Beehive, as far as I know, is owned-operated by LDS.  I had not heard of this Plum Mountain group at all, although I knew other denominations came in  & held services on Sundays, but more mainstream religions.  How did you ever find that? 

I was googling BeeHive and that link popped up in the list lol
I'm not a very good researcher but sometimes I get lucky.
The Plum Mountain group seem to be Catholic but they also follow some kinda ceremony having to do with the full moon.OK,not full moon but new moon.

[Heidismom]

Thanks for the location info on the Beehive and KaraK's house.I now have to rethink about those locations as it seems I was off on the number streets.

While looking for info on the BeeHive,I ran across this below and I don't know if it's just me but this gives me a weird feeling.......This group does a mediation workshop at the BeeHive for elderly folks.Does anyone know if DD or other researchers looked into this group?


http://www.plummountain.org/?cat=3

McCleary connection:

http://www.plummountain.org/?p=125

I am surprised.  The Beehive, as far as I know, is owned-operated by LDS.  I had not heard of this Plum Mountain group at all, although I knew other denominations came in  & held services on Sundays, but more mainstream religions.  How did you ever find that? 

I was googling BeeHive and that link popped up in the list lol
I'm not a very good researcher but sometimes I get lucky.
The Plum Mountain group seem to be Catholic but they also follow some kinda ceremony having to do with the full moon.OK,not full moon but new moon.

  Something Buddhist or maybe a mix.

  Just to clarify, the Beehive is not owned by the Mormon Church, but by Mormon members

[KarmaRoundUp]

The Plum Mountain schedule for May 2009
Interesting,I wonder what they do at the Grays Harbor county jail?
This group was also in Mexico the beginning of June.Was that when Wayne Watne was there?Could Wayne be connected with this group.....The Plum group seem to be Buddhist.....maybe?

« May2009
Sun    Mon    Tue    Wed    Thu    Fri    Sat
    
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2
Community Meditation Class
   
3
Kobai @ GH Co. Jail
   
4
   
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7
   
8
Full Moon Kobai @ Thurston Reentry
   
9
Community Meditation Class
   
10
   
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Community Meditation Class
   
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Kobai @ Alzheimer's Workshop
   
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Kobai @ La Sallian retreat
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Kobai @ La Sallian retreat
   
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Kobai @ La Sallian retreatNew Moon
   
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Kobai @ La Sallian retreatCommunity Meditation Class
   
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Kobai @ La Sallian retreat
   
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Kobai @ La Sallian retreat
   
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BKobai on Coffee-Talk Radio
   
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Kobai in MexicoCommunity Meditation Class
   

[Heidismom]

The Plum Mountain schedule for May 2009
Interesting,I wonder what they do at the Grays Harbor county jail?
This group was also in Mexico the beginning of June.Was that when Wayne Watne was there?Could Wayne be connected with this group.....The Plum group seem to be Buddhist.....maybe?

« May2009
Sun    Mon    Tue    Wed    Thu    Fri    Sat
    
1
   
2
Community Meditation Class
   
3
Kobai @ GH Co. Jail
   
4
   
5
   
6
7
   
8
Full Moon Kobai @ Thurston Reentry
   
9
Community Meditation Class
   
10
   
11
   
12
   
13
14
   
15
   
16
Community Meditation Class
   
17
   
18
Kobai @ Alzheimer's Workshop
   
19
   
20
Kobai @ La Sallian retreat
21
Kobai @ La Sallian retreat
   
22
Kobai @ La Sallian retreatNew Moon
   
23
Kobai @ La Sallian retreatCommunity Meditation Class
   
24
Kobai @ La Sallian retreat
   
25
Kobai @ La Sallian retreat
   
26
   
27
28
   
29
BKobai on Coffee-Talk Radio
   
30
Kobai in MexicoCommunity Meditation Class
   

I don't think watne would be involved in this group, since  he is with the Assembly of God, they aren't very compatible.  IF he is with Assembly of God. 

I know someone at the jail I can ask what the Plum group is there for.

[Heidismom]

Nope my source from the jail didn't know what about the Plum Mountain Group.  Maybe doing a 12 step program for drinking or something.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Nope my source from the jail didn't know what about the Plum Mountain Group.  Maybe doing a 12 step program for drinking or something.

From the Plum group website,they have Buddhist leaders in jails/prison that they help train so the leaders can train Buddhism in the jails.Increases their followings.
I don't know......very different group for sure.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Yes,they do a 12 step program for the jails.I think the part of the group that does this is called Dharma.

http://www.plummountain.org/?cat=4

[Sister]

I'm still curious about the youth group that was meeting and then had their meetings cancelled.  Are they having them now?  Possibly these kids know something.  Just wondering as they seem a little older than Lindsey and her friends.

[Sister]

An older guy matching the age of Richard Allen Phernetton that was arrested 7/20 in Montesanto was let go by the Strattleline ORV Park around the time of the search.  I don't know if it is the same person, but there can't be too many let go around that time.  I also heard he had his computer and car confiscated.  I hope someone digs a little more into this.  Also, where is karak?  She has over 125 posts from 6/28 to 7/17 and only 2 since.  She had a lot of information and may even know something about this Allen guy.  Now she seems to be very silent.  Does she know something she does not want to share?

Shortcake, do you know anymore about this Allen from the ORV Park.  What kind of car did he have, do you know if they ever said.  What he a friend to these kids?

[mamacrazy30]

jmo i would rule out the Buddhist.

http://www.aboutbuddha.org/

[mamacrazy30]

jmo i would rule out the Buddhist.

http://www.aboutbuddha.org/

not the 12 steppers...the Buddhist.

[Kona Kare]

Have any of the locals commented on the Masons under the Sheriiffs instructions comming to Mc Cleary to hold the childrens finger printing event? 
Was there a good turn out even with such short notice? 

[Heidismom]

Have any of the locals commented on the Masons under the Sheriiffs instructions comming to Mc Cleary to hold the childrens finger printing event? 
Was there a good turn out even with such short notice? 

I didn't hear about it.

[klaasend]

Have any of the locals commented on the Masons under the Sheriiffs instructions comming to Mc Cleary to hold the childrens finger printing event? 
Was there a good turn out even with such short notice? 

No, hadn't heard about that.  It's a good idea though!

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