Lindsey Baum #3 7/28/09 - 8/26/09

[Edward]

I hope it is good information and I hope you find her..

If you are not experienced in searching here is a thought for you to walk with..

1. Do Not touch anything..and Take somebody along with you, but do not bring dogs as they may trample on evidence.

2. Before you see anything you may smell something, you will know.. stop and call police.

3. If you walk up on the situation without odors, back out on your own foot steps and show officers where you yourself stepped so as to protect evidence. This may prove valuable later in court


It is obvious by now that something is not right.. Be ready and willing to bring closure to this family. 

jmho

[KarmaRoundUp]

I'm still curious about the youth group that was meeting and then had their meetings cancelled.  Are they having them now?  Possibly these kids know something.  Just wondering as they seem a little older than Lindsey and her friends.

Yikes,I don't recall a youth group meeting?

snipped from July:
they THINK the services they have stopped are:
Saturday night
Sunday Night
Wednesday Night
AND THE YOUTH GROUP which was on FRIDAY nights

Thank you Sister
Was this group meeting in McCleary or Elma?

You're welcome and good morning.
Northwest Life Center
215 N. 3rd street
Elma, Wa   
There is quite a bit of information about this church in the Weird & Strange thread.  I haven't heard if the pastor Roundtree has come back from Missouri yet.

Thanks Sister.I remember that church now.I wonder if pastor Roundtree is connected to the Round...something restaurant in McCleary......

[Sister]

I'm still curious about the youth group that was meeting and then had their meetings cancelled.  Are they having them now?  Possibly these kids know something.  Just wondering as they seem a little older than Lindsey and her friends.

Yikes,I don't recall a youth group meeting?

snipped from July:
they THINK the services they have stopped are:
Saturday night
Sunday Night
Wednesday Night
AND THE YOUTH GROUP which was on FRIDAY nights

Thank you Sister
Was this group meeting in McCleary or Elma?

You're welcome and good morning.
Northwest Life Center
215 N. 3rd street
Elma, Wa   
There is quite a bit of information about this church in the Weird & Strange thread.  I haven't heard if the pastor Roundtree has come back from Missouri yet.

Thanks Sister.I remember that church now.I wonder if pastor Roundtree is connected to the Round...something restaurant in McCleary......

KarmaR, I don't think so.  It is:
Rounders
202 W Simpson Ave
McCleary, WA 98557

restuarant

[mamacrazy30]

please just read it

http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/2009/07/lindsey-baum.html

[Sister]

please just read it

http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/2009/07/lindsey-baum.html

Mamacrazy, a very interesting read.

[Haddie McFaddies Mom]

please just read it

http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/2009/07/lindsey-baum.html

Hi mamacrazy ~ Thanks for that.  I forgot I had seen that a week or so ago.  There are also these that you may find interesting: (they are both in regards to Lindsey)

http://psychicsunitetofindmissingchildren.blogspot.com/2009/08/lindsey-baum-comments.html

http://psychicsunitetofindmissingchildren.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-08-09T16%3A18%3A00-04%3A00&max-results=7

[mamacrazy30]

sister and haddie's mom i just thank you both for reading it.  sometimes when things don't make sense they can...i believe in a situation like this we have to think outside the box and i really mean OUTSIDE!  i don't think many of us can get inside the head of a child molester and if we can then we have a leg up....sometimes it takes what could be considered 'crazy thoughts' to lead to the brain-storm that will take us on maybe a 'crazy path'.  but..it's been so long that Lindsy has been missing, with no trace (that we know of anyway).  i am open to anything that might bring Lindsey home

[Sister]

Mamacrazy, I agree, it's all about bring Lindsey home.
I have no knowledge of astrology, but articles such as the one you posted are very interesting to read.  It did not seem to be written by some whacko, so you're right, thinking outside of the box is good.

[Haddie McFaddies Mom]

I couldn't agree with you more mamacrazy.   
And sadly, it's about all we've got at this point

Keeping the drive alive for you Lindsey Baby Girl ~ 

[mamacrazy30]

whatever it takes to bring Lindsey home

[mamacrazy30]

I can see an image. I’m seeing it as if I’m looking up at it from a wooded area and the image keeps changing… a tower? A satellite? And then something that sound like Seattle. Those swirly things may be spinning or vibrating??

 are there Washington monkeys that know if windmills are in the area??

[mamacrazy30]

Monkeys.. i have to call it a night......
babycrazy's first day of school is tomorrow..
have to sleep to get her off to a good day...bbl

[Scandi]

whatever it takes to bring Lindsey home

Hi Mamacrazy,  And that will be the truth which IMO will set Lindsey free from wherever she is so she can come back home to her family and friends.

There are two basic things I have learned in sleuthing crimes over the last several years.  First, these crimes get solved by continually re-examining the scene of the crime.  Here that would be where she was last seen IMO.  Second, changing statements always draw up  BIG RED FLAGS.

The two last people to see Lindsey besides the perp were the two witnesses who told LE they saw her walking on Maple between 6th and 7th.  We don't know who they are.  But we do know the person who watched her start on her walk and followed her with her eyes to 6th when trees began to hide Lindsey.  That was her friend MK, a minor, who has been traumatized since her friend disappeared.

I don't know what protocol is here is discussing a member who was also one of the last to see Lindsey, which is the place we can start disecting what we have been told. 

Once a person has started to change statements I can't see how it can be excused.  It is similar, but not the same, as Misty in Haleigh's case, where she changed her stories so often LE now feels she is the key to unraveling the case.  I feel the same about MK's mom.  If it is not appropriate to discuss here Klaas, I understand.  But I think it is a way to find out more about what really happened.

I do think it is very odd that MK would stand and watch Lindsey start her walk home, to the point of a little over a block walk.  Why would that be necessary.  It is just an odd point I don't understand.  xox
                 

[Jademoff]

I can see an image. I’m seeing it as if I’m looking up at it from a wooded area and the image keeps changing… a tower? A satellite? And then something that sound like Seattle. Those swirly things may be spinning or vibrating??

 are there Washington monkeys that know if windmills are in the area??

Satsop Washington (about 10 minutes away from McCleary) has a Nuclear Power Plant site that has never been used. Here is a website on it. Notice the description to the surrounding area is similar to what was seen in the image.

http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/WA3288/

He is a top view picture of it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satsop_Development_Park_07780.JPG

[Lovinlife]

Thanks Jademoff and Welcome to Scared Monkeys!!! WE are glad that YOU are here!!! 

[Jademoff]

Thank you for the welcome.

As I have mentioned, I am a local to here, and used to work at Gordon's Select Market for 5 years. I'm familiar with faces and some locations and I'll help out with as much as I can.

McCleary gets a lot of people traveling through in the summertime. It's one of the gateway towns that the people from the big cities have to go through in order to get to the beach. They also come to the area to go camping, fishing, to the ORV park, and to the casinos. But seeing as she didn't even make it to the road that the Shell station is on, I just don't see a traveler through just picking her up, but someone familiar with the area.

I'm kind of wondering about this 'These swirly things that may be spinning or vibrating'. There is a Laundromat that is on Simpson Ave, about a block away from 6th street. It's in the same shopping mall at the Video store and the Subway.

[Sister]

whatever it takes to bring Lindsey home

Hi Mamacrazy,  And that will be the truth which IMO will set Lindsey free from wherever she is so she can come back home to her family and friends.

There are two basic things I have learned in sleuthing crimes over the last several years.  First, these crimes get solved by continually re-examining the scene of the crime.  Here that would be where she was last seen IMO.  Second, changing statements always draw up  BIG RED FLAGS.

The two last people to see Lindsey besides the perp were the two witnesses who told LE they saw her walking on Maple between 6th and 7th.  We don't know who they are.  But we do know the person who watched her start on her walk and followed her with her eyes to 6th when trees began to hide Lindsey.  That was her friend MK, a minor, who has been traumatized since her friend disappeared.

I don't know what protocol is here is discussing a member who was also one of the last to see Lindsey, which is the place we can start disecting what we have been told. 

Once a person has started to change statements I can't see how it can be excused.  It is similar, but not the same, as Misty in Haleigh's case, where she changed her stories so often LE now feels she is the key to unraveling the case.  I feel the same about MK's mom.  If it is not appropriate to discuss here Klaas, I understand.  But I think it is a way to find out more about what really happened.

I do think it is very odd that MK would stand and watch Lindsey start her walk home, to the point of a little over a block walk.  Why would that be necessary.  It is just an odd point I don't understand.  xox
                 

Scandi, I understand what you are saying, however, the last people to see her were the witnesses around 6th street.  I don't know if it has ever been figured out who they are.  Also, the dogs (both LEs and the private Is) did track her scent to an area on 6th street and then poof! how does someone poof?  the only answer I come up with is she got into a vehicle.  So my questions are who are these witnesses and what, if anything, has been done to figure out about the alleged white car following different kids around.

[no rose colored glasses]

whatever it takes to bring Lindsey home

Hi Mamacrazy,  And that will be the truth which IMO will set Lindsey free from wherever she is so she can come back home to her family and friends.

There are two basic things I have learned in sleuthing crimes over the last several years.  First, these crimes get solved by continually re-examining the scene of the crime.  Here that would be where she was last seen IMO.  Second, changing statements always draw up  BIG RED FLAGS.

The two last people to see Lindsey besides the perp were the two witnesses who told LE they saw her walking on Maple between 6th and 7th.  We don't know who they are.  But we do know the person who watched her start on her walk and followed her with her eyes to 6th when trees began to hide Lindsey.  That was her friend MK, a minor, who has been traumatized since her friend disappeared.

I don't know what protocol is here is discussing a member who was also one of the last to see Lindsey, which is the place we can start disecting what we have been told. 

Once a person has started to change statements I can't see how it can be excused.  It is similar, but not the same, as Misty in Haleigh's case, where she changed her stories so often LE now feels she is the key to unraveling the case.  I feel the same about MK's mom.  If it is not appropriate to discuss here Klaas, I understand.  But I think it is a way to find out more about what really happened.

I do think it is very odd that MK would stand and watch Lindsey start her walk home, to the point of a little over a block walk.  Why would that be necessary.  It is just an odd point I don't understand.  xox
                 

I couldn't agree more, what was the point of watching her walk to the point of a little over a block? Makes no sense to me.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks Jademoff and Welcome to Scared Monkeys!!! WE are glad that YOU are here!!! 

That goes for me also 

[Haddie McFaddies Mom]

Monkeys.. i have to call it a night......
babycrazy's first day of school is tomorrow..
have to sleep to get her off to a good day...bbl

"babycrazy's first day of school is tomorrow"

  
Thanks mamacrazy . . . Tickled my funnybone just when I needed it and remembering Haddie's first day of school 
~