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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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Quote from: cecilita on July 31, 2009, 09:11:05 PM
hello monkeys
the person sent josh home knew that lindsey will go back home alone.
Hi Cecilita, now that's interesting, I sure wish we knew who this person was, I think it was a woman.
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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Quote from: melisb on July 31, 2009, 08:56:57 PM
Exactly what I was thinking DD! I still think they deserve another looksee!
must be some reason you think that LOL did you find something ?
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: cecilita on July 31, 2009, 09:11:05 PM
hello monkeys
the person sent josh home knew that Lindsey will go back home alone.
Hi Cecilita, now that's interesting, I sure wish we knew who this person was, I think it was a woman.
Hi rose,
I am reading about Lindsay brother and what I read I think that he molested his sister? if that is true was easy for him to go home stay for awhile there and then see Lindsey on her way back to home and take her to somewhere else and dosthing to her. If she has been molested by him I believe that he had a lot of control on her and she will do whatever he wants only for fear
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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Quote from: love4ever on July 31, 2009, 09:12:26 PM
DD, with
all
the names listed in Grays harbor county jail for So's failing to register, rape and molestation...and have arresting dates after Lindsey went missing..when researching do you keep that open as an option?
yes. but I haven't kept up with all of them, but everytime someone mentions one, I look as much as I have time to look. it takes me a long time to go through all possible connections because I have to use several data bases and keep going back and forth, not like I have the good ones the feds have LOL so it takes forever to go through all this stuff on one person, but I try to do as many as I can. then if I find something interesting I look more.
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 09:24:50 PM »
Quote from: doubledecker on July 31, 2009, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: love4ever on July 31, 2009, 09:12:26 PM
DD, with
all
the names listed in Grays harbor county jail for So's failing to register, rape and molestation...and have arresting dates after Lindsey went missing..when researching do you keep that open as an option?
yes. but I haven't kept up with all of them, but everytime someone mentions one, I look as much as I have time to look. it takes me a long time to go through all possible connections because I have to use several data bases and keep going back and forth, not like I have the good ones the feds have LOL so it takes forever to go through all this stuff on one person, but I try to do as many as I can. then if I find something interesting I look more.
There are so many DD, even one on immigration hold who was arrested for rape of a child on July 6th 2009...
HERMENEJILDO-PACHECO, MARTIN
Statute:
9A.44.073 -
Rape of a Child 1
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=172993
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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Quote from: cecilita on July 31, 2009, 09:17:56 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: cecilita on July 31, 2009, 09:11:05 PM
hello monkeys
the person sent josh home knew that Lindsey will go back home alone.
Hi Cecilita, now that's interesting, I sure wish we knew who this person was, I think it was a woman.
Hi rose,
I am reading about Lindsay brother and what I read I think that he molested his sister? if that is true was easy for him to go home stay for awhile there and then see Lindsey on her way back to home and take her to somewhere else and dosthing to her. If she has been molested by him I believe that he had a lot of control on her and she will do whatever he wants only for fear
I haven't read that, there are some rumors that he was rather mean to her, but don't know if that is true.
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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CORONADO, MICHAEL JOSEPH
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173242
DEITRICK, BRANDON SCOTT
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173288
HUFF, BRANDY MARIE
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173377
LUDINGTON, DEREK ROBERT
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173234
Here's some some DD..I have to finish my studies....
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 10:09:11 PM »
Pierce County
Today
Booking Date / Time:
07/31/2009 16:23
WITEK, ADAM WILLIAM
Resist arrest
Fail to register S/O
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009212043
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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LOUGH, RYAN ANTHONY
Booking Date / Time:
07/31/2009 15:12
CHILD RAPE 1
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009212034
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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thanks love4ever, I will put them in the list and check to see if they connect to anything.
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 10:19:59 PM »
Quote from: cecilita on July 31, 2009, 09:17:56 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: cecilita on July 31, 2009, 09:11:05 PM
hello monkeys
the person sent josh home knew that Lindsey will go back home alone.
Hi Cecilita, now that's interesting, I sure wish we knew who this person was, I think it was a woman.
Hi rose,
I am reading about Lindsay brother and what I read I think that he molested his sister? if that is true was easy for him to go home stay for awhile there and then see Lindsey on her way back to home and take her to somewhere else and dosthing to her. If she has been molested by him I believe that he had a lot of control on her and she will do whatever he wants only for fear
no, i believe what was said is that a child setting fires can be a sign of sexual abuse however that is just in general, not specific about jb.
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 10:24:34 PM »
GOMM, ARRON C
Arrest Date
02/28/2009 01:34
Out on temporary release
GOMM, ARRON C
TAKING MOTOR VEHICLE WITHOUT PERMISSION 2ND
FAILING TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009059012
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 10:28:29 PM »
COOMBS, JERRY GERALD
Booking Date / Time:
07/31/2009 08:31
FAILING TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER
HOLD FOR MISC. STATE AGENCY
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009212016
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 10:31:21 PM »
Quote from: doubledecker on July 31, 2009, 10:19:53 PM
thanks love4ever, I will put them in the list and check to see if they connect to anything.
You are welcome, always
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 10:32:11 PM »
Did Josh Baum go straight home following the argument he had with his sister as instructed by the "family friend" or ... was there an encounter Lindsey in in the short distance between the neighbours observation and their home?
Was Josh still harboring resentment toward his sister in regards to the dispute over the bike that had taken place 30 minutes prior?
Janet
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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1936 on: July 10, 2009, 07:07:48 PM »
The conversation was apparently quite short and consisted of little more then a "Josh you need to go home" Josh trying to explain what was going on
and the girls asking the lady to tell Josh to go home again.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg873229#msg873229
The Daily World - July 3, 2009
Kampen said she has replayed that Friday evening in her head over and over. So has her daughter, Michaela, 10, who spent the day swimming with Lindsey. They walked together with Josh Baum, 13, to the Kampen house.
But halfway there, Michaela said they teased Josh, getting under his skin ...
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg863022
KaraK
Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1809 on: July 09, 2009, 04:33:45 AM »
Josh had gotten into so many spats that honestly were in a large part things he did not start but because he was the oldest he was the one who got in trouble.
I've set down kids I've never met before to have a talk with them because
I heard that they were antagonizing him to see if he'd blow up
.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871164;topicseen#msg871164
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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I feel for Josh Baum ... my heart breaks. Many anger issues that follow children into adulthood are rooted in experiences akin to those that KaraK describes.
Nevertheless ... a little ten year girl is missing and ... all avenues in the course of the investigation must be persued. Justice for Lindsey Baum dictates that no free passes are handed out based on circumstances.
Janet
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KaraK
Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1809 on: July 09, 2009, 04:33:45 AM »
Josh had gotten into so many spats that honestly were in a large part things he did not start but because he was the oldest he was the one who got in trouble. I've set down kids I've never met before to have a talk with them because
I heard that they were antagonizing him to see if he'd blow up.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871164;topicseen#msg871164
Kara Kampen – Mother of Lindsey’s friend Michaela.
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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Quote from: love4ever on July 31, 2009, 09:57:41 PM
CORONADO, MICHAEL JOSEPH
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173242
DEITRICK, BRANDON SCOTT
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173288
HUFF, BRANDY MARIE
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173377
LUDINGTON, DEREK ROBERT
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173234
Here's some some DD..I have to finish my studies....
Love4Ever:
The one I highlighted comes up:
INDALECIO-PEREZ, PAUBLO
Book# 173377
ID: 85425
Male, Age: 33
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 10:37:52 PM »
BITZ, ANDREW MATHUE
Booking Date / Time:
07/31/2009 08:32
CHILD MOLESTATION 1ST
HOLD FOR MISC. STATE AGENCY
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009212017
BERNAL, WILLIAM TROY
Booking Date / Time:
07/31/2009 10:28
FAILING TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009212020
You know what DD? It makes me happy that these arrests were all done in one day...It shows that the LE are trying...
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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In the process of elimination ... I hope that the concerns of McCleary residents in regards to Lindsey's brother were not not disregarded by Undersheriff Rick Scott. I hope the concerns of MccCeary residents were taken seriously and ... Josh Baum was not ruled out as a person of interest without investigation ... without questioning and ... without searching.
Janet
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Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott
The Olympian - June 30, 2009
Lindsey left her cell phone at home before leaving to play with friends Friday, said Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott. Lindsey’s older brother had left the Maple Street residence before his sister after the two had a dispute over the bike Lindsey had borrowed from him that day –
a common occurrence between frequently squabbling siblings
, Scott added.
http://www.theolympian.com/southsound/story/896613.html
Residents of McCleary Speak Out
mlachester 1 day ago wrote:
... Its no big secret she had came to my house to call 911 when her brother had done things to her.
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_063009WAB-Mccleary-girl-search-LJ.1fc0b759.html?ocp=2#slcgm_comments_anchor
mlachester 2 hours ago wrote:
I am close to her and I know a lot more than the media or law enforcement are saying right now. … Sorry if you don't like the truth but I have never been one to keep the truth in and she should of been taken the first time she called 911 from my house asking for help instead of put in a police car and taken back to her abuser!"
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stor...omments_anchor
mamahead 13 hours ago wrote:
Lindsey has been afraid of her brother for a very long time. He has threatned her many times. Where is she? And why is the mother not crazy with sadness or emotion. Show us some tears. The friend that Lindsey was last with shows more emotion than the mother. And why was the brother begging for money for fireworks at his little sisters candlelight vigil?
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_070609WAB-missing-mccleary-girl-SW.14c01624.html
Lindsey Baum
Lindsey Baum: Facebook Entry
TWILIGHT FREAK is happy that her brother is going to juvi tomorrow.Mood: happ at 14:10 17 Jun view more
Lindsey Baum is happy that her brother is going to juvie tomorrow.
Mood: Happ at 14:10 17 June
http://www.myspace.com/477760045
Melissa Baum
KING 5 News – July 2, 2009
If a stranger kidnapped 10-year-old Lindsey Baum, her mother says the girl would have put up a fight
“She has very long fingernails,” said Melissa Baum. “Her brother is proof enough of that.”
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_070209WAB-mccleary-KS.67b0a9.html
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Re: Lindsey Baum #3
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July 31, 2009, 10:38:38 PM »
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on July 31, 2009, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: love4ever on July 31, 2009, 09:57:41 PM
CORONADO, MICHAEL JOSEPH
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173242
DEITRICK, BRANDON SCOTT
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173288
HUFF, BRANDY MARIE
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173377
LUDINGTON, DEREK ROBERT
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173234
Here's some some DD..I have to finish my studies....
Love4Ever:
The one I highlighted comes up:
INDALECIO-PEREZ, PAUBLO
Book# 173377
ID: 85425
Male, Age: 33
Well, that didn't work out to well! It was this originally:
HUFF, BRANDY MARIE
http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/JailRegisters/RegisterDetail.asp?SrchBookNo=173377
but I am not getting Brandy Huff.
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===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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