Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)

[no rose colored glasses]

I may be going crazy    but I know I read that there was an adult birthday party at the complex that evening, I may have read it on WS, but I know I read it 

[sunshine12]

pink angel- in regards to your question about what if the bf was the one who fractured aiden's skull and mom took the blame for him...i think this could be a possibility..

i don't mean to hijack this thread with a personal story but i think it has relevance to the question you asked..as many of you know, i used to work for child protective services before the moral dilemma's i had with the agency became too much and i couldn't bring myself to do it anymore. i had a case in which a young baby presented at the hospital with a fractured skull.  both parents stated that the baby rolled off the bed...the doctors called us to investigate because there was no way a baby that age would have been able to roll over yet.  to make a long story short, the parents history of events did not coincide with the child's injury.  i was instructed by a supervisor to tell them that if they didn't come forward with what really happened, both parents would be indicated for child abuse.  the next day the mother informed us that she had been drinking and dropped the baby on the concrete patio.  who knows how true this is. i always believed in my heart that the father, who was a drug addict with extreme anger problems and had a history of child abuse in another state had something to do with it.  the child is now with a relative in another state (thank god)... it turns out that a few months later the mother and bf broke up, and the mother appealed the agency's decision to indicate her for child abuse. (she was never charged criminally with anything, who knows why) at the appeal hearing, her lawyer said that she was covering for the boyfriend b/c he told her he would leave her if she didn't take the blame.


so, to answer your question, yes, i think it's possible that the mother took the blame for the boyfriend. if this is the case, i wouldn't be suprised to see this come out in the bf's murder trial (if its allowed, im not sure if it would be since she did plead guilty to it) if he is charged with roberts murder and the mother comes to her senses.

[Leroy]

I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

[sunshine12]

I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

i agree with you leroy...its disgusting

when i look into the eyes of melissa in the photos from the most recent press conference, i see an empty black hole. i dont know what this means exactly in terms of her level of involvement in roberts death but its very disturbing

[sunshine12]

from the idahostatesman:

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 6 4:39 PM:
I was told that she works for an evening janitorial service and she was driving their SUV that evening. If the SUV was not involved, why was it towed away Thursday evening?

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857401.html?storylink=pluck_commented&pageNum=15&&&&&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

[sunshine12]

from the idahostatesman:

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 6 4:39 PM:
I was told that she works for an evening janitorial service and she was driving their SUV that evening. If the SUV was not involved, why was it towed away Thursday evening?

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857401.html?storylink=pluck_commented&pageNum=15&&&&&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

sorry i should clarify what that post is in reference too...the poster is saying that she was told that roberts mother works for an evening janitorial service and had their suv the night robert was reported missing.  the suv was later towed away by the police.  (this is not the same suv that was stolen from the mans house where they were searching for robert)

i remember reading somewhere that a police officer on the scene was heard saying "i have a hit" or something when performing some forensic work on melissa and the bf's suv while it was still parked at the apartment complex..i will go try to find where i read this

[Leroy]

from the idahostatesman:

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 6 4:39 PM:
I was told that she works for an evening janitorial service and she was driving their SUV that evening. If the SUV was not involved, why was it towed away Thursday evening?

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857401.html?storylink=pluck_commented&pageNum=15&&&&&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

sorry i should clarify what that post is in reference too...the poster is saying that she was told that roberts mother works for an evening janitorial service and had their suv the night robert was reported missing.  the suv was later towed away by the police.  (this is not the same suv that was stolen from the mans house where they were searching for robert)

i remember reading somewhere that a police officer on the scene was heard saying "i have a hit" or something when performing some forensic work on melissa and the bf's suv while it was still parked at the apartment complex..i will go try to find where i read this

I remember this too. 

[Leroy]

Fundraising Efforts for the Family of Robert Manwill

Posted: Aug 7, 2009 01:35 PM EDT
 
Boise, Idaho -- Efforts to raise money for the Manwill family has become the new focus for neighbors and community volunteers.

The ongoing vigil outside the home of Robert's mother is now covered due to rain and wind, but people here remain steadfast.

According to Gina Guzzetta Dalrymple, the concern has changed to helping Robert's family financially, "because the family can't really afford to pay for the funeral services and it's a very high cost for everybody."

As the vigil continues, they'll have a piggy bank on hand, and of course any contributions will be welcomed.

"If you just want to drop change in it, whatever you want to drop in it, we'll accept it" said Guzzetta-Dalrymple.

For those who want to help out anonymously, an account has also been set up at Wells Fargo under the name Robert Manwill.

Dalrymple says she's hoping this effort will take some of the stress off the family, "I'm glad there's at least part of a closure -- that we know where his body is, and that justice will take it's course on whoever did this to him."

The money being raised will go toward funeral expenses and any remaining funds will go to the Ronald McDonald foundation in the name of Robert Manwill.


http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10866578&nav=menu439_2_1

[pink angel]

I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

I agree with you, Melissa is not blameless in this.

re: regarding the red SUV being towed.

If Danny used Melissa's SUV or rode in Melissa's SUV to "search for Robert" before LE was called, that could be the positive that a neighbor overheard the police say. A positive hit by a dog. In other words, he could have had some of Robert's scent on him and transfered it into Melissa's SUV.

[pink angel]

I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

I agree with you, Melissa is not blameless in this.

re: regarding the red SUV being towed.

If Danny used Melissa's SUV or rode in Melissa's SUV to "search for Robert" before LE was called, that could be the positive that a neighbor overheard the police say. A positive hit by a dog. In other words, he could have had some of Robert's scent on him and transfered it into Melissa's SUV.

He could have quite possibly transfered fluids (blood that may have been on his shoes for example) too. Just tossing that out there also.

[sunshine12]

I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

I agree with you, Melissa is not blameless in this.

re: regarding the red SUV being towed.

If Danny used Melissa's SUV or rode in Melissa's SUV to "search for Robert" before LE was called, that could be the positive that a neighbor overheard the police say. A positive hit by a dog. In other words, he could have had some of Robert's scent on him and transfered it into Melissa's SUV.

i agree, or he could have had some of roberts blood on him.  i'm sure robert has driven in that suv before so his scent would prob be in there.  i think maybe they found blood and thats what they were referring to as the "hit" but im not totally sure

[sunshine12]

pink angel- we think alike again, lol, i think we both typed the thing about the blood at like the same time haha.

i hope we have an arrest today, i feel like its coming soon

[pink angel]

sunshine: Thanks for that story. I too have worked with many family court cases, though as a volunteer not as a paid employee and have seen women that have taken the wrap for something their husband or boyfriend did. Either out of fear of the man or because the man (who usually had a rap sheet already) convinced them that they wouldn't get in as much trouble and wouldn't do jail time but if LE busted them (the man) on it, that he would be sent away for awhile and wouldn't be around to pay the bills, etc...and that the woman and the children would be all alone.

Leroy, thanks for the update. It's wonderful how this community is supporting Robert and his family. For a population of over 200,000 it sure has a small town feel to it.

[pink angel]

I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

I agree with you, Melissa is not blameless in this.

re: regarding the red SUV being towed.

If Danny used Melissa's SUV or rode in Melissa's SUV to "search for Robert" before LE was called, that could be the positive that a neighbor overheard the police say. A positive hit by a dog. In other words, he could have had some of Robert's scent on him and transfered it into Melissa's SUV.

i agree, or he could have had some of roberts blood on him.  i'm sure robert has driven in that suv before so his scent would prob be in there.  i think maybe they found blood and thats what they were referring to as the "hit" but im not totally sure

It was also a rumor on a website. You have to keep that in mind. It wasn't in a media report or released info from LE. I think it's pretty standard to take any vehicles involved, if LE thinks one of the caretakers in the home had something to do with his disappearance.

[sunshine12]

so if its true that the mother had the red SUV that night, and if the bf killed robert, he would have had no vehicle or way to dispose of the body without the help of someone else to bring the stolen suv to him. which would make sense with the theory of the bf's brother bringing him the stolen car and roberts scent being found in that car and in the backyard of that man's home that was searched (sorry i keep forgetting his name)... this would also mean we'd be seeing at least 2 people arrested

[pink angel]

I love this picture of little man Robert. He reminds me of my son when my son was younger. He had a hat fetish. He had a firehat, a construction hat, a police hat, any kind of hat, he had and I have pictures of him and my dad (lol) in all of them.

Here is a slideshow of Robert's pictures, that are also on the myspace his family set up for him.
http://www.ktvb.com/perl/common/slideshow/sspop.pl?recid=17734&nextimage=0

His myspace address is: http://www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill

[Leroy]

Pink - that is my favorite pic too!  The myspace is very nice except I wish they had more recent pics of him.

[Leroy]

so if its true that the mother had the red SUV that night, and if the bf killed robert, he would have had no vehicle or way to dispose of the body without the help of someone else to bring the stolen suv to him. which would make sense with the theory of the bf's brother bringing him the stolen car and roberts scent being found in that car and in the backyard of that man's home that was searched (sorry i keep forgetting his name)... this would also mean we'd be seeing at least 2 people arrested

I'm still confused about how many cars were taken from Melissa's apartment that night...some reports said just one and some reports said several vehicles.  But yes, if they did only have the SUV then this theory is very likely.

[klaasend]

I have a feeling they are waiitng until after the memorial service to make arrests.  Then I think they will arrest the bf and maybe Melissa too.

[Leroy]

I have a feeling they are waiitng until after the memorial service to make arrests.  Then I think they will arrest the bf and maybe Melissa too.

That would make sense....and I think it would be very respectful to Robert.