Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 - 9/06/09

[Anna]

If Kyle Kingman didn't say all those things that have been posted as said by him, I have to wonder why someone didn't challenge that he said it.  Or why he didn't.  Since that didn't happen, it would seem he did say them and that is unacceptable to some people.  I would never be satisfied with ALE being given exclusive access to evidence of any sort.

Same for Capslockwizard.  If all that garbage he was posting was true, where are the remains?

I don't think either of those two things are SM's fault so not sure why they want to blame us for just saying what happened.

I don't get it.

 

[texasmom]

I forget what Debbie's actual title is with the foundation but,that being said,something is terribly wrong if Dave Holloway has her full trust...JMOO

I don't know what her position is with the foundation.  This is a front page post from BFN from Feb. 2007.   

http://blogsfornatalee.com/2007/02/16/natalee-holloway-foundation/

NATALEE HOLLOWAY FOUNDATION

February 16th, 2007 by Debbie in Missing People, Natalee's Family

We are now approaching two years since the disappearance of our daughter, Natalee Holloway. I expect there will be many new developments in our case, prior to May 30th 2007. I continue to remain positive and confident there will soon be resolution.

During this brief pause, I want to express my great appreciation for the tremendous support of the many dedicated persons who have provided untold time and effort to our cause.

Over the past year, several individuals and myself developed a non-profit organization. The primary purpose of this foundation is to assist other families that need assistance in location and/or recovery of missing/endangered family members.

Although we are committed to seeking justice and resolution for our daughter, we also desire to reach out and assist others who are also in dire need of assistance and support. We are all here to help.

For more information, please contact Debbie or our website at nataleehollowayfoundation.net.

Again, thanks for all your kindness and support. We need everyone’s input and support to help this organization grow.

Thank you!

Dave, Robin and the Board of Directors

[Keepthefaith]

I forget what Debbie's actual title is with the foundation but,that being said,something is terribly wrong if Dave Holloway has her full trust...JMOO

I don't know what her position is with the foundation.  This is a front page post from BFN from Feb. 2007.   

http://blogsfornatalee.com/2007/02/16/natalee-holloway-foundation/

NATALEE HOLLOWAY FOUNDATION

February 16th, 2007 by Debbie in Missing People, Natalee's Family

We are now approaching two years since the disappearance of our daughter, Natalee Holloway. I expect there will be many new developments in our case, prior to May 30th 2007. I continue to remain positive and confident there will soon be resolution.

During this brief pause, I want to express my great appreciation for the tremendous support of the many dedicated persons who have provided untold time and effort to our cause.

Over the past year, several individuals and myself developed a non-profit organization. The primary purpose of this foundation is to assist other families that need assistance in location and/or recovery of missing/endangered family members.

Although we are committed to seeking justice and resolution for our daughter, we also desire to reach out and assist others who are also in dire need of assistance and support. We are all here to help.

For more information, please contact Debbie or our website at nataleehollowayfoundation.net.

Again, thanks for all your kindness and support. We need everyone’s input and support to help this organization grow.

Thank you!

Dave, Robin and the Board of Directors

Maybe that didn't come out right.I don't see how Debbie would have Dave's full trust!Especially after all that has been revealed.Hope that makes more sense now?

[Keepthefaith]

To Paulus,The Perps,the disinformation specialists as well as the American traitors

JUSTICE IS COMING...SUCKS TO BE YOU!

[texasmom]

More information here about the foundation if anyone's interested.

http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/PubApps/showVals.php?ft=bmf&ein=204097157

[texasmom]

I forget what Debbie's actual title is with the foundation but,that being said,something is terribly wrong if Dave Holloway has her full trust...JMOO

I don't know what her position is with the foundation.  This is a front page post from BFN from Feb. 2007.   

http://blogsfornatalee.com/2007/02/16/natalee-holloway-foundation/

NATALEE HOLLOWAY FOUNDATION

February 16th, 2007 by Debbie in Missing People, Natalee's Family

We are now approaching two years since the disappearance of our daughter, Natalee Holloway. I expect there will be many new developments in our case, prior to May 30th 2007. I continue to remain positive and confident there will soon be resolution.

During this brief pause, I want to express my great appreciation for the tremendous support of the many dedicated persons who have provided untold time and effort to our cause.

Over the past year, several individuals and myself developed a non-profit organization. The primary purpose of this foundation is to assist other families that need assistance in location and/or recovery of missing/endangered family members.

Although we are committed to seeking justice and resolution for our daughter, we also desire to reach out and assist others who are also in dire need of assistance and support. We are all here to help.

For more information, please contact Debbie or our website at nataleehollowayfoundation.net.

Again, thanks for all your kindness and support. We need everyone’s input and support to help this organization grow.

Thank you!

Dave, Robin and the Board of Directors

Maybe that didn't come out right.I don't see how Debbie would have Dave's full trust!Especially after all that has been revealed.Hope that makes more sense now?

I know what you mean KTF.  But I also know that a lot of people have been trusted that shouldn't have been, so I really don't know what to say about it.  I'm at a loss for words, it's just really sad.

 

[texasmom]

To Paulus,The Perps,the disinformation specialists as well as the American traitors

JUSTICE IS COMING...SUCKS TO BE YOU!

 

[hotping]

Thank You TM for the Foundation Information..... 

[Keepthefaith]

I forget what Debbie's actual title is with the foundation but,that being said,something is terribly wrong if Dave Holloway has her full trust...JMOO

I don't know what her position is with the foundation.  This is a front page post from BFN from Feb. 2007.   

http://blogsfornatalee.com/2007/02/16/natalee-holloway-foundation/

NATALEE HOLLOWAY FOUNDATION

February 16th, 2007 by Debbie in Missing People, Natalee's Family

We are now approaching two years since the disappearance of our daughter, Natalee Holloway. I expect there will be many new developments in our case, prior to May 30th 2007. I continue to remain positive and confident there will soon be resolution.

During this brief pause, I want to express my great appreciation for the tremendous support of the many dedicated persons who have provided untold time and effort to our cause.

Over the past year, several individuals and myself developed a non-profit organization. The primary purpose of this foundation is to assist other families that need assistance in location and/or recovery of missing/endangered family members.

Although we are committed to seeking justice and resolution for our daughter, we also desire to reach out and assist others who are also in dire need of assistance and support. We are all here to help.

For more information, please contact Debbie or our website at nataleehollowayfoundation.net.

Again, thanks for all your kindness and support. We need everyone’s input and support to help this organization grow.

Thank you!

Dave, Robin and the Board of Directors

Maybe that didn't come out right.I don't see how Debbie would have Dave's full trust!Especially after all that has been revealed.Hope that makes more sense now?

I know what you mean KTF.  But I also know that a lot of people have been trusted that shouldn't have been, so I really don't know what to say about it.  I'm at a loss for words, it's just really sad.

 

I will hold out hope for Dave Holloway and only Dave.Logic currently is telling me something is not right.For what it's worth!

[hotping]

KTF....I'm about to leave You a message in the oil thread..... 

[Anna]

Well, in Natalee's absence I am here primarily for  Beth.  I do believe in her and her intentions.  Can't speak for anybody else but I continue to believe that she has done her best to bring about justice for her child.

[texasmom]

[texasmom]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

[texasmom]

Good night Monkeys!   

[Keepthefaith]

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[Keepthefaith]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

[hotping]

Good night Monkeys!   

Good Night TM! 

[jen3560]

Well that's just the biggest JOKE I've heard yet from that rock! 

So he was hired by AHATA, where he works closely with Rob Smith, Breisen, etc.

8/14/2009 Solo di Pueblo Page 8

http://solodipueblo.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=32&Itemid=2

Well now, isn't that special....Paul Gielen, Chairman Search Committee 

[jen3560]

This is an important admission.  FINALLY.  And from the Prosecutor's office no less.

Not sure if the Amigoe translated version of this Valero article has already been posted or not:

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_61029.php

Extensive swindle at Valero
14 Aug, 2009, 13:09 (GMT -04:00)



SAN NICOLAS — An extensive swindle has been detected at the oil refinery of Valero. The amount of money involved is unknown yet, but according to unconfirmed sources, it concerns many millions. From the US, spokesperson Bill Day confirmed to the Amigoe that they are taking the matter very seriously, “but the FB I has not been put on the case”, according to Day in reaction to reports in the Papiamento-speaking media that the American Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating this.

Meanwhile, this newspaper is informed that a manager of the maintenance department had been fired on the spot because of irregularities. In first instance, Day did not wish to confirm or deny that an investigation on fraud was being carried out. “We never comment on internal affairs.”
After this newspaper had announced that they had already received a confirmation of the fraud-investigation from reliable resources, he said, “We are taking this very serious”. The editorial office did not receive a confirmation whether the dismissed manager A.H. was also directly involved with the fraud. However, it is clear that he was not the only one who had been fired on the spot. Supposedly, another managerial employee who was with sick leave, had been dismissed as well. The fraud was supposedly committed through the purchase of spare parts or in the contracting-out to local companies. Supposedly, contractors paid Valero co-workers sums under the counter so they could rake in lucrative contracts. Presumably, spare parts had also been ordered in the United States. However, as these never arrived at Valero, they were probably sold by fraudulent co-workers who also swindled the money.

The fraud at Valero was not reported, spokeswoman Ann Angela of the Public Prosecutor (OM) announced. “Officially we are not informed of anything, also not of a foreign investigation service investigating the case. What we know, is what we’ve learned from the newspaper.” If the FBI or another foreign investigation organization wants to carry out an investigation on Aruba, they will have to announce such to the Public Prosecutor in advance. As Attorney-General Rob Pietersz mentioned earlier in this newspaper, this matter will be observed more closely after having experienced that the Natalee Holloway-case was dealt with too easily.

[jen3560]

Rumor has it there's some trouble in paradise (BFN) between some ex monkeys, Ramm and GT 

Naw!  Say it ain't so!!!