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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 - 9/06/09 (Read 370590 times)
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texasmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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http://www.diarioaruba.com/diaranzon/local/news5.html
Aruba, Diaranzon 19 Augustus 2009
Papiamentu translation:
the pick-up grey owing to “hit” again on turistanan
oranjestad (aan): again owing to worde reporta another caso relaciona cu abstraction on beachnan. esnan cu is visit beachnan as east y pabao of bridge not have tranquilidad. not can let just net nothing in car y niether on beach. this is debi cu have person, pareha, are is opera for hit esnan cu is visit disfruta of we beachnan.
even on internet, have cantidad of “warning” poni, where turistanan is adverti another cu hour they come aruba, for watch-out for “petty theft” of articulonan let in car hour of bay beach at aruba, y besides the reclamo cu polisnan at aruba do not haci nothing.
the trip here, personal of strandpolitie owing to worde instrui for central of police for bay atende one of the tantisimo casonan of ladronicia on beach. the trip here malmok not owing to stay afor!
at arrival, police owing to atende he
tourist of inicialnan b.s. naci at merca y the have 32 year of edad.
according version of the bishitante, cu more or less 10:30’or the morning ey, past owing to arrive at the beach for disfruta of sea together cu his casa. on beach they owing to let they bag y despite cu they owing to enter sea, they was throw view y in careda of 11:45’or past owing to leave for of sea after of owing to throw cabez past owing to stay hand at cabez already cu the bag owing to desaparece.
in the bag according bishitante denunciante, have two rijbewijs, two carchi of arubus, key of camber, two tarheta of credit card more 260 dollar cash.
polisnan because; strandpolitie cu did take denuncia oficial of the tourist mericano cu is the tantisimo victima of ladronicia on beach without count ; the cantidad of localnan cu also is abide at hand of the thief (nan).
for some time end according informe will have among another one pickup color grey sospechoso is circula in cual owing to señala one man y one muher tanto east y pabao of bridge in areanan of beach.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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August 20, 2009, 08:50:02 PM »
Hi Monkeys
I am home!! Daughter, SIL and eldest grandsons picked us up from the airport ... Papa splurged for a Japanese dinner and ... we were just dropped off.
A little bit of Heaven on Earth. Niece and and hubby took wonderful care of our home and our precious Brandi. I am looking soooo forward to sleeping in my own bed.
Neigbour brought over a bottle of homemade wine. We don't normally drink but ...
I will spend some time unpacking ... putting a wash in the machine ... and then catching up some reading on the forum. If there were any updates ... please tell me in a netshell. Thanks.
Janet
5:40 PM PT
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Hi Monkeys
I am home!! Daughter, SIL and eldest grandsons picked us up from the airport ... Papa splurged for a Japanese dinner and ... we were just dropped off.
A little bit of Heaven on Earth. Niece and and hubby took wonderful care of our home and our precious Brandi. I am looking soooo forward to sleeping in my own bed.
Neigbour brought over a bottle of homemade wine. We don't normally drink but ...
I will spend some time unpacking ... putting a wash in the machine ... and then catching up some reading on the forum. If there were any updates ... please tell me in a netshell. Thanks.
Janet
5:40 PM PT
so glad you made it home o.k. and enjoyed your trip.
Updates, really nothing to add except catch up on TM's news articles.
did grandson's enjoy their time with their grandparents?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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Quote from: Blue Moon on August 20, 2009, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Hi Monkeys
I am home!! Daughter, SIL and eldest grandsons picked us up from the airport ... Papa splurged for a Japanese dinner and ... we were just dropped off.
A little bit of Heaven on Earth. Niece and and hubby took wonderful care of our home and our precious Brandi. I am looking soooo forward to sleeping in my own bed.
Neigbour brought over a bottle of homemade wine. We don't normally drink but ...
I will spend some time unpacking ... putting a wash in the machine ... and then catching up some reading on the forum. If there were any updates ... please tell me in a netshell. Thanks.
Janet
5:40 PM PT
so glad you made it home o.k. and enjoyed your trip.
Updates, really nothing to add except catch up on TM's news articles.
did grandson's enjoy their time with their grandparents?
Hi Blue Moon and thanks.
Actualy we took 8 year old granddaughter and 6 year old grandson with us this time. Their older brothers (10/11) had a turn at the Magic Kingdom in California three years ago. The kids had a wonderful time and so did Mama and Papa. Those little munchkins talked non-stop all the way home from the airport and during dinner ... filling their family in. We took LOTS of pictures. I gave my camera to daughter and SIL so they could do something with the chip tonight on their computer. The pictures will tell the whole story. Any questions the kids will have the answers. I also kept a daily diary. I will put together a scapbook ... something similar to the one I made for eldest grandsons. Grandson woke up one night and cried for Mom and Dad. However ... in the morning he was fine.
Hey ... how was your trip to the ocean. When did you get back?
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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August 20, 2009, 09:20:59 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Hi Monkeys
I am home!! Daughter, SIL and eldest grandsons picked us up from the airport ... Papa splurged for a Japanese dinner and ... we were just dropped off.
A little bit of Heaven on Earth. Niece and and hubby took wonderful care of our home and our precious Brandi. I am looking soooo forward to sleeping in my own bed.
Neigbour brought over a bottle of homemade wine. We don't normally drink but ...
I will spend some time unpacking ... putting a wash in the machine ... and then catching up some reading on the forum. If there were any updates ... please tell me in a netshell. Thanks.
Janet
5:40 PM PT
JANET!!!!! I'M SO GLAD TO SEE YOU!!!!!
Welcome home!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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Quote from: texasmom on August 20, 2009, 09:20:59 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Hi Monkeys
I am home!! Daughter, SIL and eldest grandsons picked us up from the airport ... Papa splurged for a Japanese dinner and ... we were just dropped off.
A little bit of Heaven on Earth. Niece and and hubby took wonderful care of our home and our precious Brandi. I am looking soooo forward to sleeping in my own bed.
Neigbour brought over a bottle of homemade wine. We don't normally drink but ...
I will spend some time unpacking ... putting a wash in the machine ... and then catching up some reading on the forum. If there were any updates ... please tell me in a netshell. Thanks.
Janet
5:40 PM PT
JANET!!!!! I'M SO GLAD TO SEE YOU!!!!!
Welcome home!
:
Thanks texasmom.
It is sooo good to be home.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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August 20, 2009, 09:28:57 PM »
No case news at all while you were gone Janet.
There was one little fuss over at BFN that we heard about.
GrannyToad told Rammstein...well I don't recall exactly...but have you ever heard the phrase "how the cow ate the cabbage".
That was my thought about what she said!
GrannyToad is cool, and I hope her husband is recovering well from his hip replacement.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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August 20, 2009, 09:36:23 PM »
The Kalpoe vs McGraw document that Klaas posted may have been while you were gone Janet, I don't remember now!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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Janet, there was a new post at the Natalee's Freebird's site while you were gone!
Quote from: texasmom on August 14, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
THURSDAY, AUGUST 13, 2009
Chance For a New Beginning
Resulting from the tragic disappearance in May 2005 of Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba, many immediately saw what appeared to be rampant cronyism, corruption, and downright criminal actions on the part of those elected to preserve and protect = The Aruban Government and its Judiciary.
Throughout these past 4 years, many have watched and listened to further injustices against both Natalee and her family by those same "authorities".
Many have also seen the reaction of the world to the continued spotlight on Aruba, and its previously hidden underbelly of crime.
Such an underbelly has gone unreported in their crime statistics, thereby continuing to promote a safe vacation destination of "One Happy Island".
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.0
Now four years later, we are finally seeing what we hope is only the beginning of official investigating, exposing, and criminally charging those who helped Joran van der Sloot, Paulus van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe in covering up their crimes against Natalee Holloway.
This Aruban citizen has publicly stated what many have cried out for these past four years:
Aruba, do something about your corrupt elected officials. From your Prime Minister, your Minister of Justice, and Minister of Tourism, to your Public Prosecutor, your Law Enforcement Officers, and your Judicial Bench.
YOU can make a change. YOU can ensure that your homeland turns itself around, punishes the guilty, and affirms that the message this injustice sent to your youth - that crime can and will go unpunished on Aruba - gets stopped now.
Your public outcry insisting on righting this wrong, on demanding just punishment against those who abducted and murdered Natalee Holloway, and those who enabled their freedom from such punishment are brought before Lady Justice, one and all, is imperative.
Send a message to your elected officials that their actions must reflect clear and concise measures of morality, good will, integrity and conformance to the law. Let them know that should their actions fall short of these things, that you the people will not tolerate it. That you will no longer suffer the consequences of their corrupt decisions and actions.
Aruban citizens, we urge you to send letters encouraging, pleading, and demanding a just and right investigation, including criminal prosecution of these foul perpetrators, to the Dutch investigators currently looking into these things.
Take a stand, and right this wrong. For Natalee Holloway. For her family.
And for yourselves and the future of your island.
http://www.transparency.org/contact_us/ti_nc/all
National Chapter
Netherlands
TI Netherlands
Address:
Transparency International Nederland
t.a.v. de directeur
Benoordenhoutseweg 23
2596 BA s Gravenhage
Email:
gk@vandermandele.eu
Website:
www.transparencyinternational.nl
Contact Person(s):
Mr Charles van der Mandele
Director/CEO
Phone : +31 70 353 8280
Fax : +31 70 353 8333
E-mail(s):
gk@vandermandele.eu
http://theholearuba.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post.html
MONDAY, JULY 27, 2009
Aruba's Moral Crisis
Where ever you go today, you are always able to hear something negative about the dire situation on the island of Aruba.
If it's not coming from your radio or television, it's the local newspapers filled everyday with articles that make it clear of this somber reality that according to many has really gone out of hand. These are not just ordinary complaints or political rants addressing a particularly bad situation. Unfortunately it is the ugly truth that we are all experiencing on this "one happy island" of Aruba today. Teen pregnancy has reached alarming and critical numbers apparently twice as large as the numbers presently at hand in Holland. The latter supposedly the country that many here in Aruba, including our Prime Minister and his popular sidekicks the Ex Minister of Justice and the Minister of Health call our "Mother Country" lacking in strong religious and moral conviction and lost in it's liberal ways with it's free sex, homosexual marriage, child pornography and it's drug abuse gone ramped and available everywhere in the Netherlands. These people are in the frame of mind that here in Aruba we are living in a super fantastic Utopia, where none of these undesirable things happen, this because of their own and their prestigious party's high moral and religious convictions. They believe they have all of these minor local problems very much under control as they all themselves live a healthy and wholesome life.
The Irony and cruel reality unfortunately is that here in Aruba our government employees and the government itself over the last few years have been constantly under suspicion and are presently being investigated by the Dutch government (as the local Aruban government and Dept. of Justice would not look into this for 8 consecutive years) for being involved in obscure businesses, fraud and scandal in different departments of the government.
Armed robbery cases, sometimes with bloody consequences in the light of day all around the island, the homeless drug addicted vagrant "choller" phenomenon is reaching it's highest numbers and keeps growing and is already to be seen at the high rise hotels. The stealing in and of automobiles, theft in commercial establishments and home invasions are happening more then ever all over the island. Many of these are done by our own local youth and this unfortunately has become a common occurrence. We have reached the point where everyone already ask themselves daily, "when will I be next"?
Where did things go wrong? Why does it seem that we never have a solution in place or one that soon will be implemented, for any of our social problems. Who will take responsibility for this fiasco and obvious failure to see or address these very apparent social problems.
Perhaps it was the rising of crude prices? or do we blame it on Henny Eman and his "gang" of the AVP party? Was it the Minister that was not available for health reasons and has since past away, is he to blame? Oh no, it was Tico, he single-handedly took care of this! Perhaps it's our antiquated and liberal Dutch laws? No, it's Andin Bikker the "Capitalist Straw Man", who did know how to break the monopoly in telecommunications on the island -where the big, fat and lazy government owned entity loved to over charge us all for a very long time on the island. Or was it Digicel? Is it the introduction of AZV our national health insurance or was it the racetrack or Ralph Sanchez perhaps? Or is it the crazy American Tourist who come to the island in droves and love to buy drugs and get high and make a scene everywhere they go? It's probably the devil worshipping cults that are recently invading and corrupting our Aruban teens. No it is the Colombian, Venezuelan, Dominican and the rest of these "Latinos" who we have been importing during the last few years to do the work, they are the ones to blame for this chaos here in Aruba.
Sorry folks, I believe it is none of the above. It is us, we the people of Aruba,
"The Original Aruban", we are to blame, we let things go out of hand and let this happen to our country and to ourselves.
The love for money and the yearning for living a larger life while having everyone around you work hard and possibly even suffer to make just a little bit. The lack of brotherly love and the sense of entitlement as to own and take things that you know are not yours, does not belong to you, do not deserve and was never yours to begin with, but knowingly keep it to yourself or keep abusing of this one sided situation anyway, as you believe that you deserve it and have the right to it. At hand is the "Live and Let Die " , "Greed is Good", instead of the "Live and Let Live" mentality. All of this with a corrupt governmental and judicial environment has unfortunately distorted the moral compass of the Aruban society.
And now what? Do we pray to God, Mother Mary, the Buddha, Saints Peter? Will this bring the solution? Or should we forget all our problems by ignoring the situation by the use and abuse of alcohol, drugs and partying on with no end every weekend. Who's is here this weekend? Double R, Diomedes Diaz, Earth, Wind and Fire, perhaps Jamie Foxx: "Blame it on the A, A, A, A, A Alcohol Baby.....?
No people, the solution starts with ones self.
Demand, what you do have the right to, in a well balanced society.
That is a peaceful life, living in harmony and coexistence with nature and your fellow man, all under the watchful eye of the Lord All Mighty. This should be demanded and expected from anyone who sits down in the new government seat.
What future would we have if it all stays the same and everything stays in the hands of those whom party in their private club and today own many things that 8 to 12 years ago they did not have, including nightclubs, sports bars, buildings "all inclusive" meaning already prearranged and signed with a convenient government long lease at exaggerated high rates and all this without having invited tenders nor legal contracts, hotel spa's, crazy high salaries for friends and family all these part of the Exclusive Elitist Club. Many of these do not even have to set foot at the government or government allied job for years, the traveling all over the world anytime there is an issue at hand in the parliament that these elected representatives have to face and resolve and therefor don't confront, not to mention the making available to these Ministers of government employees as to captain and maintain their personal yachts and to work on their political campaigns for this "private club of humble capitalist" working in a democracy of the people, for the people, by the people?
How embarrassing...
Please deceive someone else.
How sweet it is!
4 more years, 4 more years, 4 more years!
Wake up folks...
POSTED BY FLUIT AT 12:21 PM
POSTED BY NATALEE'S FREEBIRDS AT 12:23 PM
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 -
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August 20, 2009, 10:05:34 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on August 20, 2009, 09:43:11 PM
Janet, there was a new post at the Natalee's Freebird's site while you were gone!
Quote from: texasmom on August 14, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
THURSDAY, AUGUST 13, 2009
Chance For a New Beginning
Resulting from the tragic disappearance in May 2005 of Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba, many immediately saw what appeared to be rampant cronyism, corruption, and downright criminal actions on the part of those elected to preserve and protect = The Aruban Government and its Judiciary.
Throughout these past 4 years, many have watched and listened to further injustices against both Natalee and her family by those same "authorities".
Many have also seen the reaction of the world to the continued spotlight on Aruba, and its previously hidden underbelly of crime.
Such an underbelly has gone unreported in their crime statistics, thereby continuing to promote a safe vacation destination of "One Happy Island".
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.0
Now four years later, we are finally seeing what we hope is only the beginning of official investigating, exposing, and criminally charging those who helped Joran van der Sloot, Paulus van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe in covering up their crimes against Natalee Holloway.
This Aruban citizen has publicly stated what many have cried out for these past four years:
Aruba, do something about your corrupt elected officials. From your Prime Minister, your Minister of Justice, and Minister of Tourism, to your Public Prosecutor, your Law Enforcement Officers, and your Judicial Bench.
YOU can make a change. YOU can ensure that your homeland turns itself around, punishes the guilty, and affirms that the message this injustice sent to your youth - that crime can and will go unpunished on Aruba - gets stopped now.
Your public outcry insisting on righting this wrong, on demanding just punishment against those who abducted and murdered Natalee Holloway, and those who enabled their freedom from such punishment are brought before Lady Justice, one and all, is imperative.
Send a message to your elected officials that their actions must reflect clear and concise measures of morality, good will, integrity and conformance to the law. Let them know that should their actions fall short of these things, that you the people will not tolerate it. That you will no longer suffer the consequences of their corrupt decisions and actions.
Aruban citizens, we urge you to send letters encouraging, pleading, and demanding a just and right investigation, including criminal prosecution of these foul perpetrators, to the Dutch investigators currently looking into these things.
Take a stand, and right this wrong. For Natalee Holloway. For her family.
And for yourselves and the future of your island.
http://www.transparency.org/contact_us/ti_nc/all
National Chapter
Netherlands
TI Netherlands
Address:
Transparency International Nederland
t.a.v. de directeur
Benoordenhoutseweg 23
2596 BA s Gravenhage
Email:
gk@vandermandele.eu
Website:
www.transparencyinternational.nl
Contact Person(s):
Mr Charles van der Mandele
Director/CEO
Phone : +31 70 353 8280
Fax : +31 70 353 8333
E-mail(s):
gk@vandermandele.eu
http://theholearuba.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post.html
MONDAY, JULY 27, 2009
Aruba's Moral Crisis
Where ever you go today, you are always able to hear something negative about the dire situation on the island of Aruba.
If it's not coming from your radio or television, it's the local newspapers filled everyday with articles that make it clear of this somber reality that according to many has really gone out of hand. These are not just ordinary complaints or political rants addressing a particularly bad situation. Unfortunately it is the ugly truth that we are all experiencing on this "one happy island" of Aruba today. Teen pregnancy has reached alarming and critical numbers apparently twice as large as the numbers presently at hand in Holland. The latter supposedly the country that many here in Aruba, including our Prime Minister and his popular sidekicks the Ex Minister of Justice and the Minister of Health call our "Mother Country" lacking in strong religious and moral conviction and lost in it's liberal ways with it's free sex, homosexual marriage, child pornography and it's drug abuse gone ramped and available everywhere in the Netherlands. These people are in the frame of mind that here in Aruba we are living in a super fantastic Utopia, where none of these undesirable things happen, this because of their own and their prestigious party's high moral and religious convictions. They believe they have all of these minor local problems very much under control as they all themselves live a healthy and wholesome life.
The Irony and cruel reality unfortunately is that here in Aruba our government employees and the government itself over the last few years have been constantly under suspicion and are presently being investigated by the Dutch government (as the local Aruban government and Dept. of Justice would not look into this for 8 consecutive years) for being involved in obscure businesses, fraud and scandal in different departments of the government.
Armed robbery cases, sometimes with bloody consequences in the light of day all around the island, the homeless drug addicted vagrant "choller" phenomenon is reaching it's highest numbers and keeps growing and is already to be seen at the high rise hotels. The stealing in and of automobiles, theft in commercial establishments and home invasions are happening more then ever all over the island. Many of these are done by our own local youth and this unfortunately has become a common occurrence. We have reached the point where everyone already ask themselves daily, "when will I be next"?
Where did things go wrong? Why does it seem that we never have a solution in place or one that soon will be implemented, for any of our social problems. Who will take responsibility for this fiasco and obvious failure to see or address these very apparent social problems.
Perhaps it was the rising of crude prices? or do we blame it on Henny Eman and his "gang" of the AVP party? Was it the Minister that was not available for health reasons and has since past away, is he to blame? Oh no, it was Tico, he single-handedly took care of this! Perhaps it's our antiquated and liberal Dutch laws? No, it's Andin Bikker the "Capitalist Straw Man", who did know how to break the monopoly in telecommunications on the island -where the big, fat and lazy government owned entity loved to over charge us all for a very long time on the island. Or was it Digicel? Is it the introduction of AZV our national health insurance or was it the racetrack or Ralph Sanchez perhaps? Or is it the crazy American Tourist who come to the island in droves and love to buy drugs and get high and make a scene everywhere they go? It's probably the devil worshipping cults that are recently invading and corrupting our Aruban teens. No it is the Colombian, Venezuelan, Dominican and the rest of these "Latinos" who we have been importing during the last few years to do the work, they are the ones to blame for this chaos here in Aruba.
Sorry folks, I believe it is none of the above. It is us, we the people of Aruba,
"The Original Aruban", we are to blame, we let things go out of hand and let this happen to our country and to ourselves.
The love for money and the yearning for living a larger life while having everyone around you work hard and possibly even suffer to make just a little bit. The lack of brotherly love and the sense of entitlement as to own and take things that you know are not yours, does not belong to you, do not deserve and was never yours to begin with, but knowingly keep it to yourself or keep abusing of this one sided situation anyway, as you believe that you deserve it and have the right to it. At hand is the "Live and Let Die " , "Greed is Good", instead of the "Live and Let Live" mentality. All of this with a corrupt governmental and judicial environment has unfortunately distorted the moral compass of the Aruban society.
And now what? Do we pray to God, Mother Mary, the Buddha, Saints Peter? Will this bring the solution? Or should we forget all our problems by ignoring the situation by the use and abuse of alcohol, drugs and partying on with no end every weekend. Who's is here this weekend? Double R, Diomedes Diaz, Earth, Wind and Fire, perhaps Jamie Foxx: "Blame it on the A, A, A, A, A Alcohol Baby.....?
No people, the solution starts with ones self.
Demand, what you do have the right to, in a well balanced society.
That is a peaceful life, living in harmony and coexistence with nature and your fellow man, all under the watchful eye of the Lord All Mighty. This should be demanded and expected from anyone who sits down in the new government seat.
What future would we have if it all stays the same and everything stays in the hands of those whom party in their private club and today own many things that 8 to 12 years ago they did not have, including nightclubs, sports bars, buildings "all inclusive" meaning already prearranged and signed with a convenient government long lease at exaggerated high rates and all this without having invited tenders nor legal contracts, hotel spa's, crazy high salaries for friends and family all these part of the Exclusive Elitist Club. Many of these do not even have to set foot at the government or government allied job for years, the traveling all over the world anytime there is an issue at hand in the parliament that these elected representatives have to face and resolve and therefor don't confront, not to mention the making available to these Ministers of government employees as to captain and maintain their personal yachts and to work on their political campaigns for this "private club of humble capitalist" working in a democracy of the people, for the people, by the people?
How embarrassing...
Please deceive someone else.
How sweet it is!
4 more years, 4 more years, 4 more years!
Wake up folks...
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POSTED BY NATALEE'S FREEBIRDS AT 12:23 PM
Thanks TM. I think I missed this. It was while I was on vacation.
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Quote from: texasmom on August 20, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
No case news at all while you were gone Janet.
There was one little fuss over at BFN that we heard about.
GrannyToad told Rammstein...well I don't recall exactly...but have you ever heard the phrase "how the cow ate the cabbage".
That was my thought about what she said!
GrannyToad is cool, and I hope her husband is recovering well from his hip replacement.
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The Kalpoe vs McGraw document that Klaas posted may have been while you were gone Janet, I don't remember now!
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http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2
accidente earnest cu watersports will can trece another golpi big for reputacion internacional of aruba
thursday, 20 august 2009
oranjestad—un father mericano is cla for take pace contra aruba after cu his son owing to abide one accidente important haciendo usage of servicio of watersports here. the son of 17 year owing to achieve dañonan inner pisa, incluyendo nier break,
y till day of today is in the unidad of cuido intensivo at jackson memorial hospital, stick at machine for his sobrevivencia.
the young owing to abide the accidente here in awanan fast marriott, after cu tanto the because; one another, owing to cumpra servicionan of one compania of watersports property of owing to.l jr. the boat cu was guia the two hobennan in the so calling ‘tubes’ was maneha for one young local of barely 16 year cu not had none type of licensia or the so calling vaarbewijs, y for colmo was core the boat in one form iresponsabel, in areanan prohibi. dado instant both young tourist owing to bay stick cu all compel in one another boat mara in the area, y both owing to achieve golpi pisa.
the young of 17 year sinembargo was in one condicion sumamento critico y 57 day after still is luchando for his life.
the father, one advocate y also acolyte of one organizacion cu is work at interest of consumidonan at merca is acusa the compania of watersports, the hotel where owing to cumpra the servicio, but also aruba of negligencia overall cu owing to cause the damage big here at his child. police entretanto owing to haci his work y owing to work proces verbal tanto contra the young capitan because; the compania cu owing to tum’e in servicio y owing to happen the caso for ministerio publico, but after of one month still nothing did take luga.
the actitud here have the father much disgusta y owing to menaza end cu the is pendiente kico will happen cu his child, but cu the will take pace contra aruba. do not exclui cu the will bay media mericano for acusa aruba, specialmente for motibo cu past did take notice cu already for much year end have denuncia cu watersports at aruba do not regula, without cu autoridadnan, among another gobierno did take the pasonan necesario.
already end the caso owing to capta atencion of ‘bloggers’ on internet cu is acusando aruba once more of do not asumi responsabilidad.
chairman of aruba hospitality and security foundation jan van nes owing to trece caso here fast july 2, without spesifica exactly kico owing to happen. the time ey van nes owing to ilustra cu had two incidente earnest cu watersports at aruba cu is give sample of the necesidad urgente for regula the industry here. the of two caso was uno where one tourist kedando at river owing to break his back. river owing to arrive at one acuerdo pafo of corte cu the family, y owing to pay 850 thousand dollar at damage.
van nes owing to tell the instant ey cu ahsf is preocupa cu till still miss regulacion for watersports at aruba “y is give permission at watersports, without cu have the seguronan corespondiente. we is hungando the ruleta russian,” van nes owing to show in one articulo publica in good morning aruba, july 3, 2009, enfatisando cu despite of all affirmation, not owing to come cu exigencia y rekesitonan structura for companianan cu is sell servicio of watersports. rekesitonan as capitannan cualifica y responsible. is impossible for accepta cu one compania of watersports is let one young of barely 16 year fungi because; capitan, cu do not as cuenta cu responsabilidad y siguridad of person. “e miss of regulacion is algo earnest.” y although cu hotelnan is stop garantia for her siguridad of tourist, they not can haci nothing contra the companianan of watersports, cu is saca permisonan of where cu is, of cua minister or instancia, without cu have one sistema structura for controla miho the situation. “nos owing to achieve the affirmation cu maritiem politie will achieve one control on the situation, but still nothing,” van nes owing to expresa month happen. but now is look like cu baca owing to hoga. because although cu police owing to haci his work y owing to happen the caso at ministerio publico,
the actitud pasivo according the father is inacceptable y is cla for denuncia aruba internacionalmente. of part police owing to compronde cu do not comenta the caso, already cu the investigacion is in hand of ministerio publico.
have to tell if cu some ehecutivo policial owing to expresa cu we they disgust for her miss of ley y miss of herment for genuinely place one control on the explosion of actividadnan of watersports.
one explosion cu can costa life of one young y can place another mancha dark on industry turistico of aruba.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2009, 10:10:39 PM
Quote from: texasmom on August 20, 2009, 09:36:23 PM
The Kalpoe vs McGraw document that Klaas posted may have been while you were gone Janet, I don't remember now!
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I'll see if I can find it Janet!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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I can't find it, I don't think I dreamed it!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Klaas
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Please post a link to the last document you posted in Kalpoe vs McGraw. IIRC, it showed an increase in the amount of the attorneys fees for Kay Skeeters.
I've been looking for it for Janet, but I can't find it!
Thanks in advance!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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From the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil hearing on August 13, 2009. Kay Skeeters filed an addendum as fees have increased:
And it appears by the minutes filed that the judge has NOT made his ruling YET:
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