Natalee Case Discussion #823 8/13/09 - 9/06/09

[Magnolia]

I don't know if I am qualified to answer this question, but I think that
it just shows that all of this information that these people have posted
persistently is just BS, and  that there has been an orchestrated effort by
the AHATA to spread all of the lies that are out there.  If they had nothing
to hide, why go to such lengths.

[texasmom]

By the way...
I'm getting less inclined to give Dave H and Tim M. a pass anymore wrt the company they keep...It PI$$ES me off!

It does seem at some point THEY would get pissed off at the merry~go~round from hell they've been on thanks to some who have claimed to be "friends" or "helpers".  

Surely by now they've seen the signs that something's not right with those relationships?  

JMO

[Tamikosmom]

FIGURE IT OUT!

Robin Holloway
BFN

MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank Reality for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!

November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM »


Doc Holladay PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:44 am

Dave made that email public to further bolster his book, remember, “Corruption in Paradise”. His other reason was to continue the hate campaign his ex started and he so whole-heartedly joined into.  He is nothing more than a neutered male version of Beth; I can’t stand any of them.

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-21893.html&highlight=#21893


Doc Holladay PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:43 am

Are the pages from Dave’s work of fiction soft when you wipe with them?

[billb's daughter]

I don't know if I am qualified to answer this question, but I think that
it just shows that all of this information that these people have posted
persistently is just BS, and  that there has been an orchestrated effort by
the AHATA to spread all of the lies that are out there.  If they had nothing
to hide, why go to such lengths.

I hear what you are saying Magnolia (and TexasMom).
I'm trying to solicit inputs from our smart Monkeys to where this may lead for Justice for Natalee....Janet consistently posts that the perps will still be protected by aruba authorities (I agree with Janet) and at worst will admit investigative mistakes (Oh well).
Although there may be a well documented (Thanks to Kermit and many others) that a disinfo crew was established and promoted by aruba powers that be from the get go....where is/what could be the link that goes directly to nailing the perps? At the end of the day.....aruba IS suffering because of the coverup.....
I want the perps nailed ..paulass/urine/k2/freddie/guido......

[texasmom]

I don't know if I am qualified to answer this question, but I think that
it just shows that all of this information that these people have posted
persistently is just BS, and  that there has been an orchestrated effort by
the AHATA to spread all of the lies that are out there.  If they had nothing
to hide, why go to such lengths.

You're right Magnolia.  And all the while they've been trying to shut us up, they are putting bogus information all over the web.  Disgusting videos that claim to be "the other side of the story", it's just sickening.  I spent a few hours late one night watching some of the crap that is out there as "truth" and it's disgusting!  I found it interesting that one of the clips I watched was from the same Dutch show that was also on Persistence.  The show that John Silvetti was interviewed on and showed a lot of footage of his nephew among the crew.
 

[billb's daughter]

I don't know if I am qualified to answer this question, but I think that
it just shows that all of this information that these people have posted
persistently is just BS, and  that there has been an orchestrated effort by
the AHATA to spread all of the lies that are out there.  If they had nothing
to hide, why go to such lengths.

I hear what you are saying Magnolia (and TexasMom).
I'm trying to solicit inputs from our smart Monkeys to where this may lead for Justice for Natalee....Janet consistently posts that the perps will still be protected by aruba authorities (I agree with Janet) and at worst will admit investigative mistakes (Oh well).
Although there may be a well documented (Thanks to Kermit and many others) that a disinfo crew was established and promoted by aruba powers that be from the get go....where is/what could be the link that goes directly to nailing the perps? At the end of the day.....aruba IS suffering because of the coverup.....
I want the perps nailed ..paulass/urine/k2/freddie/guido......

AND JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!

[Mere]

Good Night Night Crew....!

Things to munch on tonight.  See you tomorrow......                                     

[texasmom]

Good Night Night Crew....!

Things to munch on tonight.  See you tomorrow......                                     

Good night Mere!   

[Tamikosmom]

By the way...
I'm getting less inclined to give Dave H and Tim M. a pass anymore wrt the company they keep...It PI$$ES me off!

It does seem at some point THEY would get pissed off at the merry~go~round from hell they've been on thanks to some who have claimed to be "friends" or "helpers".
  
Surely by now they've seen the signs that something's not right with those relationships?  

JMO

Nope!

When I consider that Debbie's relationship with Dave and Robin Holloway is thisclose ... I believe her words in the following post to this forum.

texasmom ... both Tim Miller and Dave Holloway are aware of Kyle Kingman's own words to the Natalee's Freebird forum.

Janet

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jdsurveyor1 Newbie Posts: 11
John Silvetti, the Persistence and the Search for Natalee «
Reply #13 on: April 03, 2008, 07:52:13 PM »

The important thing is to raise funds. It will require corporate support as well as private donations. Dave and Beth have been doing a great job getting the word out and while I was on the island, Dave put me in contact with the head of the Hotel Association who is working on raising a sizeable amount.  So many on the island are supporting our efforts as well as people from all over the world. The media really blew the cage out of proportion. Although the cage initially provided some moments of "what is in there", I warned all on board that none of this information was to leave the boat. It was very suspect that a cage of this size was found where it was on the seafloor relative to the coast. My feelings were this was highly unusual and probably had something to do with something, but not what we were after. It was decided that the cage would be investigated further by divers, however, it was designated as only a target of interest. The crew moved onto other targets. Unfortunately, inexperience and frustration led to premature statements, including that we had found her I don't think anyone was more upset than I that this information came off the boat and caused the Holloway family more grief!

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8476.msg334979#msg334979


Debbie
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
« Reply #598 on: June 18, 2009, 11:29:24 PM »

Okay... there was/is no conspiracy with the Persistence.  Louis, John, Tim and Dave are trying to get the funds to complete the search on the targets.... they are working together. 
 
Slam me, bash me, I don't care, but it is the truth.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5127.msg845027;topicseen#msg845027


Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.

[Keepthefaith]

I don't know if I am qualified to answer this question, but I think that
it just shows that all of this information that these people have posted
persistently is just BS, and  that there has been an orchestrated effort by
the AHATA to spread all of the lies that are out there.  If they had nothing
to hide, why go to such lengths.

I hear what you are saying Magnolia (and TexasMom).
I'm trying to solicit inputs from our smart Monkeys to where this may lead for Justice for Natalee....Janet consistently posts that the perps will still be protected by aruba authorities (I agree with Janet) and at worst will admit investigative mistakes (Oh well).
Although there may be a well documented (Thanks to Kermit and many others) that a disinfo crew was established and promoted by aruba powers that be from the get go....where is/what could be the link that goes directly to nailing the perps? At the end of the day.....aruba IS suffering because of the coverup.....
I want the perps nailed ..paulass/urine/k2/freddie/guido......

OK,OK..Billb set it up so nicely...

THAT'S WHAT THE CAHULAWASSEE RIVER IS FOR..Nailed is putting it nicely BillB..

[Tamikosmom]

Thank ya'll.

I am fine.....you know I am tough as nails.

It was just gallbladder surgery.  Nothing to it!

Magnolia ... I didn't know.  I am thankful you are on the mend.

 

Janet

[wreck]

I'm just catching up .... I'm sure I have missed a lot! I AM from OKC. My 81 year old mother still lives there. If you need to know the "dynamics" of OKC ... let me know.
I have roots back to the turn of the century (1900's!)

[Tamikosmom]

Good Night Monkeys!  Good Night Zookeepers!

 

Janet
9:50 PM PT

[Keepthefaith]

Good Night Monkeys!  Good Night Zookeepers!

 

Janet
9:50 PM PT

GoodNight Janet!  

[Tamikosmom]

Good Night Monkeys!  Good Night Zookeepers!

 

Janet
9:50 PM PT

GoodNight Janet!  

 

[billb's daughter]

I'm just catching up .... I'm sure I have missed a lot! I AM from OKC. My 81 year old mother still lives there. If you need to know the "dynamics" of OKC ... let me know.
I have roots back to the turn of the century (1900's!)

Your OLD wreck!...
Do you know ROBOTS....

[texasmom]

Good Night Monkeys!  Good Night Zookeepers!

 

Janet
9:50 PM PT

Good night Janet!   

[Keepthefaith]

Good Night Monkeys!  Good Night Zookeepers!

 

Janet
9:50 PM PT

GoodNight Janet!  

 

You are appreciated more then you know Janet!God Bless ya....

[billb's daughter]

I don't know if I am qualified to answer this question, but I think that
it just shows that all of this information that these people have posted
persistently is just BS, and  that there has been an orchestrated effort by
the AHATA to spread all of the lies that are out there.  If they had nothing
to hide, why go to such lengths.

I hear what you are saying Magnolia (and TexasMom).
I'm trying to solicit inputs from our smart Monkeys to where this may lead for Justice for Natalee....Janet consistently posts that the perps will still be protected by aruba authorities (I agree with Janet) and at worst will admit investigative mistakes (Oh well).
Although there may be a well documented (Thanks to Kermit and many others) that a disinfo crew was established and promoted by aruba powers that be from the get go....where is/what could be the link that goes directly to nailing the perps? At the end of the day.....aruba IS suffering because of the coverup.....
I want the perps nailed ..paulass/urine/k2/freddie/guido......

Guess I'm not being heard.....that's OK....
Goodnight Good monkeys...
Justice for Natalee is where it is at.....

[Keepthefaith]

Left ya treat in the sports thread Wreck!