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« Reply #600 on: August 23, 2009, 02:10:10 AM »

This may be a repeat but I don't recall it being posted.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/natalee-holloway-impact-aruba-four-years-later

The "Natalee Holloway Impact" on Aruba--Four Years Later

Share:     by Michelle Says So | May 30, 2009 at 05:47 pm
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Has the injustice of Natalee Holloway wrecked a permanent havoc on Aruba’s tourism, economy and reputation for the last four years?

Let’s see…

EXHIBIT A:

Google “Aruba Boycott” and get 1,400 hits.

Google, “Boycott and Natalee Holloway” and get 22,700 hits.

Google, “Boycott Aruba” and get 26,000 hits.

Do I need to try other search engines to make my point?

EXHIBIT B:

In 2008 alone:

The E! Network put out two “documentaries”.  One was “The Final Hours of Natalee Holloway”; and “20 Most Shocking Unsolved Crimes” in which Natalee’s case was listed as the #1 “most shocking” unsolved crime.

This was above Jimmy Hoffa.

Above the Zodiac Killer.

Above Jon Benet Ramsey.

Amazing!

2008 also gave us A&E’s Bill Kurtis and the famous series “American Justice” that produced an hour special on Natalee’s case.  Using a different take, the show focused more on the ongoing recovery efforts to find Natalee’s body.

Haunting Evidence did an hour special using a psychic and some “ghost buster” toys in order to find out the truth of what Joran did with Natalee that last night.

…AND DON’T FORGET!  The Peter de Vries Special that changed EVERYTHING.

ABC’s 20/20 with Chris Cuomo did an hour long story on Natalee’s case up to date, including the aftermath of the “Peter de Vries Hidden Camera” scandal, and Joran’s “side job” of “alleged” sex trafficking of women between the borders of Thailand and the Netherlands…all conveniently caught on secret videotape.

A “Sex, Lies and Videotape” of the new millennium?  Could be…

Last, but never least…Greta van Susteren’s “career changing interview” with Joran after her multi-month man hunt across the globe to obtain interviews with witnesses and Joran himself who told Greta on camera that he did not kill Natalee, but sold her to an unknown man in Aruba for $10,000 after two brief exchanges in the casinos of Aruba.

Hours after the taped “confession”, Joran contacted Greta via email and recanted his entire story.

EXHIBIT C:

Only half way through 2009…

The Natalee Holloway Story was produced by the Lifetime Movie Network and was viewed by a record setting 3.2 million people when it aired in April of 2009.  It was the highest viewed movie in Lifetime’s 11-year history.

ENOUGH SAID

When in history has a “missing person-turned-corruption-case” garnered so much worldwide attention, especially after four years?

It is because of the people.  These are the "little people" with a HUGE voice that want to see justice.  They want to see the new developments or what Joran’s new lie will be.  They want to see punishment for those involved, and they want Natalee’s family to obtain closure.

The media feeds off what the public wants to see and hear.  Thanks to the media, Natalee’s case has never “gone cold”.  With every movie, documentary and book, Aruba’s massive wound continues to rip open with an increase of pain each time.

I know there are people out there who have no clue of Natalee Holloway.  However when I mention to someone that I write a blog about Natalee Holloway, and they say, “Who?”  The only words I need to use to jog their memories are “Aruba” and “missing”.

Ah ha!  It works every time.

Each time just one person mentions her case to another person, those negative images and stories are stored either in one's immediate conscious or will lie in the subconscious.

Perhaps that particular conversation knowingly or not, will be the cause of one less person visiting Aruba.

OH, and by the way, Carlos-n-Charlies in Aruba closed (due to the poor economy..yuk, yuk...)

-Michelle Says So

http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com


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What is the significance of Carlos'nCharlie's closing?

 
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That is the last place Natalee was seen alive. 

 
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Thank you for writing this story.

 
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Ow please....

There are girl gone missing everyday in the US....what makes this girl sooooo special??? Noone cares enough bout the other people who's gone missing to help THEM out!!! This girl got into a car with 3 STRANGERSSSSS and then something bad happend to her. Wel there's a big surprise!!! Why in the world would she get into the car in the first place. Why would her FRIENDS let her go with 3 GUYS she doesn't really know. And it's ARUBA's fault she went missing??? Hmmmmm i don't think so. Would u boycot the US after seeing HOW MANY people go missing EVERYDAY???? pls people....move on!!! Ít's been 4 YEARS!!! If we haven't found her (alive of death) by now, we probably never will.

I would most def visit Aruba after this. Since there is only 1 known case of someone gone missing there....and soooooo many gone missing in US. I believe I can rest my case now.

And all of u who think u should boycot an ENTIRE island, just because 1 GIRL went missing. I hope u can rest peacefully at night, knowing that ur children and loved once are asleep, safe and sound in their own rooms (OR ARE THEY????)

 
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If you were wise enough to see my OTHER blog, Michelle Says So, I DO pay attention to OTHER MISSING PEOPLE.

Research before you babble...

 
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it's not because one girl went missint--it's because how the case was handled--don't go to ARUBA --it's not SAFE

 
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at 14:14 on June 23rd, 2009

Carlos & Charlies got closed because it was renamed to Sr Frogs and moved to a slightly bigger location.

We're still getting lots of tourists despite the economic meltdown.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #601 on: August 23, 2009, 02:20:19 AM »

Re-run Haunting Evidence, Natalee Holloway, on tru-tv now.

Good night to night shift......

Thanks Mere!  Sorry I missed telling you "Good night"!   an angelic monkey

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Suck on that Aruba!  This story is NEVER going away!

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #602 on: August 23, 2009, 02:56:28 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_61421.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Children chollerhuis

August 22, 2009, 13:42 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The police station in Oranjestad was on Thursday late afternoon are reports of a few adult men with minor children choller-house on Mozart Street would be walked. Agents tore immediately, but once arrived they found nobody. However, they found an illegal electricity connection. The agents pulled the cable path and set Elmar informed.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #603 on: August 23, 2009, 03:01:46 AM »

My "mantra" has always been that our FBI is more "tuned in" to the case than what we have been told. Kermit has given me restored faith that his is true............ BUT I can't help but to worry that we are all "whistling in the dark". 
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« Reply #604 on: August 23, 2009, 03:27:40 AM »

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Papiamentu translation:

during operacion internacional......... more of 750 kilo of cocaina, hash, heroin, xtc y arm owing to stay confisca y 2 antiyano deteni

pa: godfried adem

amsterdam - more cu 750 kilo of cocaina more one cantidad of 3000 kilo of hash, 39 kilo of heroin, thousand of pildora of xtc, one revolver, one pistol, one seedoo, y documentonan y several pc, is thing autoridadnan of one team internacional, consistiendo of autoridadnan spanish y britanico owing to come confisca on one yacht belero, because; on ground at europa.

one overall of 47 sospechoso owing to stay deteni, bao of cual tripulantenan of the yacht cual is two man antillean procedente of sint maarten.

the detencionnan owing to being realisa ribe the yacht y also at ground at spain because; at inglatera in transcurso of tuesday ultimo.

ribe yacht self procedente of sint maarten owing to find 250 kilo of cociana, the armanan of candela, the seedoo, y documentonan. sobra owing to being confisca at ground.

was one operacion big cu owing to last some month first cu can owing to detene the near here cual his cabesantenan all is spanish, kendenan is opera for of the people costeño costa del sol at spain.

some month happen autoridadnan owing to come cay on pista of the near here cual already for some time owing to take away tonelada of drugs europa. paisnan cu they was abastece at europa was inglatera y the netherlands.

but majority of the cargamento was destina for the netherlands according autoridadnan spanish.

according informe of 'direccion general de polisia y guardia civil' spanish, they owing to realisa the operativo here conhuntamente cu another entidadnan local cual is 'agencia tributaria' cu till aduana spanish y also cu soca cu is stop for serious organised crime agency of police english.

they owing to come is work conhuntamente cu soca debi cu this t’esun cu owing to inicia cu the investigacion at level internacional. autoridadnan spanish self owing to detene 8 person among they the 2 antianonan here cu nacionalidad dutch kendenan was on the yacht. the sobranan owing to stay detene at ground, they nacionalidad is spanish, colombiano, italian, y english.

the sobranan for of the cantidad of 47 owing to stay detene for autoridadnan britanico at inglatera.

the modus operandi of the organisacion criminal here was of busca the drugs at colombia, trece this cu boat till serca of costa of the country for for of eynan another are of person tume this after of some day for entrega this n’esnan cu owing to cumpre serca the near.

autoridadnan spanish y britanico conhuntamente owing to arise one team cual for of march ultimo owing to come is tap the near here 24 hour.

one overall of 150 cord of telephone stay of tap during of the investigacion here of acuerdo cu dirrecion general of police y guardia civil spanish.

they owing to come achieve know cu the cabesantenan of the near here at several ocasion owing to trip for colombia because; without maarten for come across cu esnan owner of cartelnan of drugs.

at half ultimo they owing to come achieve know cu they have one yacht at sint maarten cu is saliendo for of sint maarten for bay busca the drugs once more at colombia.

at june the yacht here owing to bandona phillipsburg at sint maarten cu direction for colombia for eynan busca the drugs for lever europa cune. hour they owing to carga the drugs abordo, they not owing to leave at once for europa. the tripulante owing to nabega bay antigua first, where at stay for some day.

of ey they owing to cruza oceano atlantico direction for europa.

some day happen, esta end of july the embarcacion here owing to arrive island azores y eynan autoridadnan owing to they cuminsa vigila they intensivamente.

the drugs the trip here will was destina for market britanico y at instant cu they owing to dicidi at bandona harbour of the island here, servicio special of guardia civil owing to lever the yacht y owing to detene the tripulante.

simultaneamente ne detencion here tanto at spain because; at inglatera several detencion more owing to cay y had several entrance hudicial cu owing to produci detencion also.

some of they're in town of malaga at spain where several empresa of horeca y one agencia of car owing to being visit y they doñonan owing to stay deteni debi cu they will was help wash coin pe near here.

the operacion here cu owing to carga of name 'operation candelight' was one exitoso according the comunicado of autoridadnan spanish.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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My "mantra" has always been that our FBI is more "tuned in" to the case than what we have been told. Kermit has given me restored faith that his is true............ BUT I can't help but to worry that we are all "whistling in the dark". 

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« Reply #606 on: August 23, 2009, 04:33:42 AM »

My "mantra" has always been that our FBI is more "tuned in" to the case than what we have been told. Kermit has given me restored faith that his is true............ BUT I can't help but to worry that we are all "whistling in the dark". 

Domain Name   treas.gov ? (U.S. Government
Continent:North America
Country:United States  (Facts)
Time of Visit   Aug 19 2009 12:12:45 pm


Continent:Europe
Country:Netherlands  (Facts)
State/Region:Zuid-Holland
City:Den Haag
Apr 9 2009 5:23:36 am

See what she was looking at
Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)
IP Address 201.229.31.# (Setarnet)
Visit Entry Pagehttp://scaredmonkeys...om/index.php?s=depak

bastibro - see his referring url
Domain Name versatel.nl ? (Netherlands)
IP Address 87.210.121.# (Versatel Nederland B.V.)
ISP Versatel Nederland B.V.
Continent:Europe
Country:Netherlands  (Facts)
State/Region:Noord-Holland
City :Bussum
Lat/Long:52.2833, 5.2 (Map)
Referring URL h1ttp://idiotsfoundon...idiots-found-online/



Domain Name mcb-bank.com ? (Commercial)
IP Address 200.26.196.# (Antelecom N.V)
ISP Antelecom N.V
Continent:South America
Country:Netherlands Antilles  (Facts)
City:Willemstad
Lat/Long:12.1, -68.9167 (Map)

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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Good night wreck!  I think we both might rest a bit easier now.

Thank you Kermit!   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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Good night Janet!   an angelic monkey


Good morning texasmom?    an angelic monkey
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #611 on: August 23, 2009, 09:44:04 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys!  Good Morning Zookeepers!

As with each day ....

Psalm 118:24
This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.


 

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« Reply #612 on: August 23, 2009, 10:10:43 AM »

Posted: Aug. 23, 2009
Arizona rocks Aruba for world championshipBY JON MACHOTA
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http://www.freep.com/article/20090823/SPORTS02/908230550/-1/rss07

   
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Good night Janet!   an angelic monkey


Good morning texasmom?    an angelic monkey

Good morning Janet!  
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/press-review-friday-21-august-2009

Home-made party drug back on the scene

While smoking is down, party drug ghb appears to be back on the scene according to nrc.next. Once used in hospitals as an anaesthetic, gamma hydroxyl butyric acid made its entry into the Amsterdam dance scene in the 1990s. “Back then it was new,” says drugs researcher of the University of Amsterdam, Ton Nabben. “Now people are using it more and more in public. People don’t even bat an eyelid if someone goes into a coma during a night out.”
 
Because ghb occurs naturally in the body, it appears innocent, but an overdose can be lethal. Short-term side effects can be nausea, memory loss, serious breathing difficulties, convulsions and coma. Years ago researchers thought the drug was not addictive, a dramatic increase in ghb additions has led the Trimbos Institute to sound the alarm. It is cheap to buy and easy to make from ingredients that you might find under the sink. It is like alcohol, but without the hangover. Needless to say the journalist tries out an internet recipe, but when she has it tested is told “I wouldn’t drink it neat”.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Have a great day Monkeys!  BBL!   
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Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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