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« Reply #920 on: August 25, 2009, 03:36:35 PM »

I am in no way "justifying" what Dave has done. I am in fact just pointing out why I think Dave has succumbed. I agree that this is undoubtedly undermining Natalee. I agree that it very disturbing and wrong. I just don't think Dave is "corrupt". I don't think he took a pay-off.
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« Reply #921 on: August 25, 2009, 03:56:29 PM »

If I were to betray my precious daughter ... logic dictates it would not be for nothing.  The price/incentive would have to be right.

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« Reply #922 on: August 25, 2009, 04:13:03 PM »

I am in no way "justifying" what Dave has done. I am in fact just pointing out why I think Dave has succumbed. I agree that this is undoubtedly undermining Natalee. I agree that it very disturbing and wrong. I just don't think Dave is "corrupt". I don't think he took a pay-off.

Wreck - I agree.  I do not doubt that Dave Holloway loves Natalee and would have done anything to get her back.  I don't think Dave is corrupt and I don't think anyone in the Holloway/Twitty family has taken any "pay offs".  I do believe that knowing WHO TO TRUST in Aruba has been hard for the Holloway/Twitty's just as it has been hard for others.
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« Reply #923 on: August 25, 2009, 04:14:54 PM »

Janet - I cannot believe that Dave Holloway would knowingly undermine anything pertaining to justice for Natalee.  Not knowingly.
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« Reply #924 on: August 25, 2009, 05:00:38 PM »

Speaking of being bought.

Here is yet one more who spouted off on behalf of Aruba - and it appears Mr Cohen had a vested interest all along.


http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=21332
         
Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 8 JANUARY 1997 under serial number 21371.0 is the company with the tradename:
 
COOPERATIEVE VERENIGING MARRIOTT VACATION CLUB INTERNATIONAL OF ARUBA
 
Business address   L.G. SMITH BLVD. 101, NOORD
Legal form    COOPERATIVE SOCIETY
Name of the   COOPERATIEVE VERENIGING MARRIOTT VACATION CLUB INTERNATIONAL OF ARUBA
company/foundation/association:   
Statutory seat    ARUBA
Date of   8 JANUARY 1997
incorporation/commencement:   
      
 
BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS
 
COHEN, ALLAN STEVEN;
Residing in    9613 ELDWICK WAY , POTOMAC, MD 20854, U.S.A.
Born in    U.S.A., CONNECTICUT on 9 AUGUST 1944
Nationality    AMERICAN
Position    PRESIDENT
Effective    23 FEBRUARY 2004

Authority    RESTRICTED
 
REILLY, MICHAEL JOSEPH;
Residing in    8500 COSTA VERDE DRIVE MYRTLE BEACH, 29572 SC, U.S.A.
Born in    U.S.A., NEW YORK on 12 JANUARY 1947
Nationality    AMERICAN
Position    VICE-PRESIDENT
Effective    5 OCTOBER 2006
Authority    RESTRICTED
 
KNOX, FRANK RIVIERE;
Residing in    1940 DUGAN DRIVE CHARLOTTE, NC 28270, U.S.A.
Born in    U.S.A., TENNESSEE on 30 JUNE 1950
Nationality    AMERICAN
Position    SECRETARY/TREASURER
Effective    5 OCTOBER 2006
Authority    RESTRICTED
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
 
TO PROMOTE THE MATERIAL INTERESTS OF ITS MEMBERS BY PROVIDING THEM RESORT-ACCOMODATIONS: AS FAR AS THE A-MEMBER IS CONCERNED DURING THE A-MEMBER/ USAGE PERIOD IN ARUBA OR ELSEWHERE AND BY PROVIDING COMMERCIAL WORKING-SPACES AS FAR AS THE B-MEMBER IS CONCERNED DURING THE B-MEMBER/USAGE PERIOD.
TO PROMOTE THIS PURPOSE THE ASSOCIATION CAN ON ITS OWN DISCRETION TAKE THE NECESSARY RESPECTED LEGAL STRIDES, INCLUDING TO ACQUIRE PRACTICAL THANWELL PERSONAL RIGHTS, SUCH IN REFERENCE TO THE USAGE OF UNITS AND RECREATION- AND OTHER JOINT FACILITIES OF THE RESORT, WHICH IS CREATED BY THE DEVELOPER, DEVELOPED AND BUILT.


Are you sure this is the same Steve Cohen.  I remember researching his interests, etc.  There was a Steve Cohen, pornographer, that did not have the same likeness.  I don't recall any "Allan" linked to the marketing "Steve Cohen".   
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« Reply #925 on: August 25, 2009, 05:26:24 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_61506.php

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Patrick van der Eem caught with cocaine

August 25, 2009, 14:04 (GMT -04:00)

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Patrick van der Eem last year at the Radisson Hotel when he stayed on the island for his book overboard.

ORANGE CITY - Patrick van der Eem, the undercover who are Joran van der Sloot confessions's itinerary, was last night around six fifty-five arrested for possession of drugs and the threat of violence.

Van der Eem was in his room at the Radisson hotel were arrested by the police. According to local media, Van der Eem them, among other hotel Riu, Westin and Occidental have stayed and he left without paying for hotels. According to the prosecution, the drugs he was carrying for personal use. Van der Eem is still in custody at the police station in North and it is investigated the case.

Van der Eem is known for his contribution to a broadcast of the television crime reporter Peter de Vries, on the disappearance of the American girl Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

Furthermore, he has already been involved in a drug case. So he would scar on his left side of his face during his informatierol in a drug case since childhood. Addition, Van der Eem in December last year, shortly after reporting arrested for abusing his girlfriend
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #926 on: August 25, 2009, 05:31:52 PM »

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Briesen, "despite opposition from Port Tender"

August 25, 2009, 14:00 (GMT -04:00)

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Minister Edison Briesen, with behind the plans for the new port in Barcadera.

ORANGE CITY - Minister of Tourism and Transportation Edison Briesen (MEP) took a lot out yesterday morning for what he called friends and family from Astec their efforts to move the container port to Barcadera stop. "At the local level was a tough campaign against this project," says breeze.

Thus stevedoring company Astec to Aruba Ports Authority (APA) sent a letter in which she demanded that no one but them should be discussed in terms of concessions in the new container port. They would also have sent letters with the same content to interested groups in Spain and other countries. Briesen: "Even the government would have no right to sit at the table interested" He also mentioned efforts by other parties, including the return of RED at the Public Prosecutor (OM) of alleged corruption by Tempest and premier Oduber. AVP, Partido Democracia Real and MPA went so far as to letters to the Senate and House and the governor. According Briesen they had jumped into the discussion with the purpose political gain from the situation to get.

Yrausquin

The press were all kinds of items with charges to breeze. Thus he would be bound to the Spanish consortium Alatec, money under the table and would have received APA losing its authority as soon as the port is ready. Atia Employer Organization, Chamber of Commerce and Winkeliersvereniging Mambo - according Briesen "the Friends & Family of Astec" - would a "threatening letter" sent. In it they had expressed concern about developments in and around the port area and the impact on the cruise tourism and the economy of the island. Also a bailiff came along at a meeting of the Board of APA with a letter from Atia by all council members should be read. In that letter, Atia, was chaired by Juan David Yrausquin now on the list of opposition ASF state, APA reports about internal protection. Reports during the session of the tribunal last week were again presented by Astec. According to Atia port project would be disastrous for APA. Should APA perish what Atia in the letter an adventure called Atia takes over the entire Supervisory Board responsible for maladministration and unlawful act.

Also, a letter sent to Yrausquin Trusam, developer of the five-star hotel on Bushiri is built. The letter had stated that although the country Aruba is the largest shareholder of APA, it has no right to speak on behalf of APA. "So neither the government nor the prime minister nor the minister may talk about APA. No, only Juan David and AVP can do that! Hilarious, "says breeze. Commitments on behalf of the government to interested parties would not be binding, according to this letter. AVP-leader Mike Eman would also have sent letters to Spain. In those letters would have said about a sale of the port and that the sales would not enjoy widespread support. Briesen: "At no time was discussed sale of the port. And our party has a majority of eleven in parliament, "It would have withheld information, which is carrying out the duties of the opposition would have impeded. "Each year during the budget discussions, all plans on the table. It apparently gives them an additional internal documents in their mailbox. They even had the audacity to take this internal documents to the court to go, "said Minister of Tourism and Transport.


Not valid

The ruling of the Court of Arbitration of the Arbitration Institute of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba rejected in favor of Aruba Ports Authority (APA) over stevedoring company Astec. The arbitration containing the President of the Arnhem Court and the President and Vice President of the Arnhem Court decided that the final last year by APA denunciations of the concession agreement by January 1, 2010 Astec not valid. Astec remains the exclusive stevedoring from port to the award process for a new operator has completed the relocation of the port is completed, and the new operator in Barcadera actually able to stevedoring operations there to start. Then keep the exclusive stevedoring contract at Astec.

Land Aruba is now a public tender seeking an operator for the new container port. Astec financial claims by the arbitration dismissed. The company believed to have rights to compensation through wrongful breach of contract, the assertion that it was not in good faith would have been covered and they should be paid for their exclusive right. "This contract from 1983 is outdated," said Minister Briesen yesterday. A response Astec Director Marinus Clean the ruling of the arbitration to materialize. The director is on vacation.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #927 on: August 25, 2009, 05:36:12 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_61504.php

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ARUBA

Police parades risky approach

August 25, 2009, 13:59 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP), the 'risk' that the application of both his party as a parade of ASF to be held on September 20 have been honored by the police.

That made this yesterday during the press conference of Minister of Tourism and Transportation Edison Briesen. "We had our parade already applied for and been promised. MEP can we even be our own people in check, but if something goes wrong then it is on the shoulders of the person who issued the license, "the party leader. Oduber had also previously criticized the actions of the police during the parade on August 2 MEP. There would then be deployed enough officers to the parade to proceed smoothly. He pulled the power of temporary chief Peter de Witte in order to provide permits for political activities. Just five days later turned Oduber that decision again. The police will not the final decision on the issuance of licenses. The Corps and advises the Minister of General Affairs, Prime Minister Oduber So, is the one who must ultimately approve.

The Prime Minister had yesterday also know as yet not wanting to address the challenge of opposition AVP to a debate going on BBO with AVP-leader Mike Eman. "ASF is long overdue to submit a draft bill. This is a political game to them and I can not seriously insist. "The prime minister will challenge the Green Party to still turn out a draft legislative proposal indicating that the BBO by November 2009 will be abolished. "Same day that I mentioned in the Advisory Board and may run its course."
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #928 on: August 25, 2009, 05:38:38 PM »

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Patrick van der Eem caught with cocaine

August 25, 2009, 14:04 (GMT -04:00)

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Patrick van der Eem last year at the Radisson Hotel when he stayed on the island for his book overboard.

ORANGE CITY - Patrick van der Eem, the undercover who are Joran van der Sloot confessions's itinerary, was last night around six fifty-five arrested for possession of drugs and the threat of violence.

Van der Eem was in his room at the Radisson hotel were arrested by the police. According to local media, Van der Eem them, among other hotel Riu, Westin and Occidental have stayed and he left without paying for hotels. According to the prosecution, the drugs he was carrying for personal use. Van der Eem is still in custody at the police station in North and it is investigated the case.

Van der Eem is known for his contribution to a broadcast of the television crime reporter Peter de Vries, on the disappearance of the American girl Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

Furthermore, he has already been involved in a drug case. So he would scar on his left side of his face during his informatierol in a drug case since childhood. Addition, Van der Eem in December last year, shortly after reporting arrested for abusing his girlfriend

Since when was it illegal to be in possession of drugs in Aruba?  OR is it just who you happen to be and whether you belong to their exclusive elite club?  They make me sick to my stomach    (I HATE THEM ALL).

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« Reply #929 on: August 25, 2009, 05:42:15 PM »

  Let's see how long it takes for them to be stolen.   Monkey Devil!

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_61501.php

ARUBA

New bicycles for police

August 25, 2009, 13:56 (GMT -04:00)


ORANGE CITY - Aruba Hospitality & Security Foundation yesterday donated four bicycles to the police. The fund of the tourism organization AHATA decided to donate the mobility of agents patrolling the busy tourist area to improve. Both sides also hope the visibility of the police in the regions. Two bicycles were given to the police and the Beach Team Visiblity donated. The other two at the police station in Noord.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #930 on: August 25, 2009, 05:43:06 PM »

If I were to betray my precious daughter ... logic dictates it would not be for nothing.  The price/incentive would have to be right.

Janet

Your daughter is alive and well, Janet.....Praise Goodness.  That makes the "price/incentive" different.

Maybe Dave's "price/incentive" is peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters.
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« Reply #931 on: August 25, 2009, 05:49:55 PM »

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ARUBA

New funeral

August 25, 2009, 13:53 (GMT -04:00)




Director Eugene Maduro of the new funeral The Olive Tree.


SAN NICOLAS - The Olive Tree, that is what the new undertaker who last Sunday opened. It went to a 'soft opening', later the new company grand opening.

Director Eugene Maduro advises called Olive Tree chosen because this tree a long time to grow into a fruit bearing tree. He also sees similarities to his own life. "I grew up, studied and worked to gain experience. And I finally start my own business. An olive tree grows even on arid and barren land and I therefore see the comparison right now during these economic hard times still start a new business start. Just as the olive tree eventually bear fruit, so I also hope that our funeral home should do their bit to help the families of the deceased person and be their support may be. "

The Olive Tree is on the Bernhardstraat 134 to 136 in San Nicolas.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #932 on: August 25, 2009, 05:52:29 PM »

Good afternoon Blue Moon and all Monkeys.

Is it known for a fact that Dave is still aligned with Purcell etc. ?

Could it be that Dave's price/incentive was to find his dear daughter?

 


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« Reply #933 on: August 25, 2009, 05:55:48 PM »

I am in no way "justifying" what Dave has done. I am in fact just pointing out why I think Dave has succumbed. I agree that this is undoubtedly undermining Natalee. I agree that it very disturbing and wrong. I just don't think Dave is "corrupt". I don't think he took a pay-off.

Wreck - I agree.  I do not doubt that Dave Holloway loves Natalee and would have done anything to get her back.  I don't think Dave is corrupt and I don't think anyone in the Holloway/Twitty family has taken any "pay offs".  I do believe that knowing WHO TO TRUST in Aruba has been hard for the Holloway/Twitty's just as it has been hard for others.

Thanks Klaas. You said exactly how I feel and think. I know in my gut that Dave's commitment to Natalee; her memory and desire for justice, is genuine and intact. He is mortal, and therefore can be subject to influence and misjudgement, but in my strong opinion, his intentions and purpose have all been above board.
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« Reply #934 on: August 25, 2009, 06:15:33 PM »

If I were to betray my precious daughter ... logic dictates it would not be for nothing.  The price/incentive would have to be right.

Janet

Your daughter is alive and well, Janet.....Praise Goodness.  That makes the "price/incentive" different.

Maybe Dave's "price/incentive" is peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters.

... and maybe "peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters" is not Dave's motive at all to maintain his three year relationship with the enemy.

Where is there any indication that Robin is manipulative and controlling.  Where is there any indication that Dave does not act according to his own free will ?  Where is there any indication that Robin and Dave are not a team like most husbands and wife?

All indicationd prior to the Mark Purcell connection indicated that Robin and Dave were one in their quest to replace the Aruban investigative team.  All indications of their words in in interview in the talk show circuit were that they were one in their perception that a corrupt investigation was denying Natalee justice and Joran, Deepak and Satish knew the answers Robin and Dave were so desperate seeking?  All indication in Dave's words in CORRUPTION IN PARADISE imply that he had a free will in his challenging of the Aruban Law Enforcement and ... supporting the boycott.

Many on this forum have chosen to speculate that Robin is manipultive and ... poor Dave is forced to toe her line or else.  I choose to believe that Robin and Dave are a team and have mutual motives for maintaining an ongoing relationship with Mark Purcell ... a team as indicated in all of Robin's posts.

Janet


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MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank Reality for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
 
Re: Setting the Record Straight « Reply #46 on: November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM »


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As far as Julia, we have stayed in contact with her and she truly does care for Natalee and wants to know what happened to her as much as anyone else. Dave was able to meet with Mark for a little while last night while he was there and had a nice visit. It is good to know they are still there and willing to help. Please know they are still there too for Natalee ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2409.msg311317#msg311317


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We realize some of you will not agree, but as much as we want to know what happened to Natalee, Dave and I no longer support a boycott of Aruba. We thank everyone who did so on our behalf, but it is no longer necessary to do so for Dave or me. We realize it is an individual choice, but please try to see it from our perspective. In our opinion, the boycott has caused a lot of hurt for a lot of innocent people in Aruba who do not deserve that.







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« Reply #935 on: August 25, 2009, 06:19:50 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/11396/5/

Papiamentu translation:

grand premier of lacle y trappenberg at tele aruba




monday, 24 august 2009 - 18:52

today evening will is the grand premiere of the declaration of policy new at tele aruba “lacle & trappenberg”. topico in the talkshow here will bay is “futuro of bbo”, cual is one topico much anticipa. then sintoniza telearuba today evening for 10:10pm.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #936 on: August 25, 2009, 06:21:07 PM »

If I were to betray my precious daughter ... logic dictates it would not be for nothing.  The price/incentive would have to be right.

Janet

Your daughter is alive and well, Janet.....Praise Goodness.  That makes the "price/incentive" different.

Maybe Dave's "price/incentive" is peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters.

... and maybe "peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters" is not Dave's motive at all to maintain his three year relationship with the enemy.

Where is there any indication that Robin is manipulative and controlling.  Where is there any indication that Dave does not act according to his own free will ?  Where is there any indication that Robin and Dave are not a team like most husbands and wife?

All indicationd prior to the Mark Purcell connection indicated that Robin and Dave were one in their quest to replace the Aruban investigative team.  All indications of their words in in interview in the talk show circuit were that they were one in their perception that a corrupt investigation was denying Natalee justice and Joran, Deepak and Satish knew the answers Robin and Dave were so desperate seeking?  All indication in Dave's words in CORRUPTION IN PARADISE imply that he had a free will in his challenging of the Aruban Law Enforcement and ... supporting the boycott.

Many on this forum have chosen to speculate that Robin is manipultive and ... poor Dave is forced to toe her line or else.  I choose to believe that Robin and Dave are a team and have mutual motives for maintaining an ongoing relationship with Mark Purcell ... a team as indicated in all of Robin's posts.

Janet


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MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank Reality for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
 
Re: Setting the Record Straight « Reply #46 on: November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM »


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As far as Julia, we have stayed in contact with her and she truly does care for Natalee and wants to know what happened to her as much as anyone else. Dave was able to meet with Mark for a little while last night while he was there and had a nice visit. It is good to know they are still there and willing to help. Please know they are still there too for Natalee ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2409.msg311317#msg311317


Robin Holloway - June 19, 2007
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« Today at 02:13:11 PM »


We realize some of you will not agree, but as much as we want to know what happened to Natalee, Dave and I no longer support a boycott of Aruba. We thank everyone who did so on our behalf, but it is no longer necessary to do so for Dave or me. We realize it is an individual choice, but please try to see it from our perspective. In our opinion, the boycott has caused a lot of hurt for a lot of innocent people in Aruba who do not deserve that.









Well, what was the price?  Who paid it?  Have you seen the cancelled check?
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« Reply #937 on: August 25, 2009, 06:21:51 PM »

Good afternoon Blue Moon and all Monkeys.

Is it known for a fact that Dave is still aligned with Purcell etc. ?

Could it be that Dave's price/incentive was to find his dear daughter?

 

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Monkeys and Natalee's Freebirds knew from the getgo that Robin and Dave joining forces with enemy and expecting a positive outcome was not going to happen.  Three years later ... Robin and Dave are still expecting that positive outcome to happen compliments of Mark Purcell?  I don't think so.  Inquiring mind want to know what positive outcome does Natalee's stepmother and father expect out of this long term relationship?

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #938 on: August 25, 2009, 06:32:39 PM »

If I were to betray my precious daughter ... logic dictates it would not be for nothing.  The price/incentive would have to be right.

Janet

Your daughter is alive and well, Janet.....Praise Goodness.  That makes the "price/incentive" different.

Maybe Dave's "price/incentive" is peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters.

... and maybe "peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters" is not Dave's motive at all to maintain his three year relationship with the enemy.

Where is there any indication that Robin is manipulative and controlling.  Where is there any indication that Dave does not act according to his own free will ?  Where is there any indication that Robin and Dave are not a team like most husbands and wife?

All indicationd prior to the Mark Purcell connection indicated that Robin and Dave were one in their quest to replace the Aruban investigative team.  All indications of their words in in interview in the talk show circuit were that they were one in their perception that a corrupt investigation was denying Natalee justice and Joran, Deepak and Satish knew the answers Robin and Dave were so desperate seeking?  All indication in Dave's words in CORRUPTION IN PARADISE imply that he had a free will in his challenging of the Aruban Law Enforcement and ... supporting the boycott.

Many on this forum have chosen to speculate that Robin is manipultive and ... poor Dave is forced to toe her line or else.  I choose to believe that Robin and Dave are a team and have mutual motives for maintaining an ongoing relationship with Mark Purcell ... a team as indicated in all of Robin's posts.

Janet


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MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank Reality for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
 
Re: Setting the Record Straight « Reply #46 on: November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM »


ROBIN HOLLOWAY
December, 2007


As far as Julia, we have stayed in contact with her and she truly does care for Natalee and wants to know what happened to her as much as anyone else. Dave was able to meet with Mark for a little while last night while he was there and had a nice visit. It is good to know they are still there and willing to help. Please know they are still there too for Natalee ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2409.msg311317#msg311317


Robin Holloway - June 19, 2007
The Boycott
« Today at 02:13:11 PM »


We realize some of you will not agree, but as much as we want to know what happened to Natalee, Dave and I no longer support a boycott of Aruba. We thank everyone who did so on our behalf, but it is no longer necessary to do so for Dave or me. We realize it is an individual choice, but please try to see it from our perspective. In our opinion, the boycott has caused a lot of hurt for a lot of innocent people in Aruba who do not deserve that.



Well, what was the price?  Who paid it?  Have you seen the cancelled check?

Magnolia ... if I produced a "cancelled cheque" this minute  ... you and others on this forum have already concluded that it would have been all Robin's doing and ... poor Dave was manipulated into going along or his marriage and family would be at risk.  It is a foregone conclusion that poor Dave gets a pass.

Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #939 on: August 25, 2009, 06:42:18 PM »

If I were to betray my precious daughter ... logic dictates it would not be for nothing.  The price/incentive would have to be right.

Janet

Your daughter is alive and well, Janet.....Praise Goodness.  That makes the "price/incentive" different.

Maybe Dave's "price/incentive" is peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters.

... and maybe "peace in his home and the ability to stay in the lives of his other two daughters" is not Dave's motive at all to maintain his three year relationship with the enemy.

Where is there any indication that Robin is manipulative and controlling.  Where is there any indication that Dave does not act according to his own free will ?  Where is there any indication that Robin and Dave are not a team like most husbands and wife?

All indicationd prior to the Mark Purcell connection indicated that Robin and Dave were one in their quest to replace the Aruban investigative team.  All indications of their words in in interview in the talk show circuit were that they were one in their perception that a corrupt investigation was denying Natalee justice and Joran, Deepak and Satish knew the answers Robin and Dave were so desperate seeking?  All indication in Dave's words in CORRUPTION IN PARADISE imply that he had a free will in his challenging of the Aruban Law Enforcement and ... supporting the boycott.

Many on this forum have chosen to speculate that Robin is manipultive and ... poor Dave is forced to toe her line or else.  I choose to believe that Robin and Dave are a team and have mutual motives for maintaining an ongoing relationship with Mark Purcell ... a team as indicated in all of Robin's posts.

Janet


+++++++

Robin Holloway
BFN


MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank Reality for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
 
Re: Setting the Record Straight « Reply #46 on: November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM »


ROBIN HOLLOWAY
December, 2007


As far as Julia, we have stayed in contact with her and she truly does care for Natalee and wants to know what happened to her as much as anyone else. Dave was able to meet with Mark for a little while last night while he was there and had a nice visit. It is good to know they are still there and willing to help. Please know they are still there too for Natalee ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2409.msg311317#msg311317


Robin Holloway - June 19, 2007
The Boycott
« Today at 02:13:11 PM »


We realize some of you will not agree, but as much as we want to know what happened to Natalee, Dave and I no longer support a boycott of Aruba. We thank everyone who did so on our behalf, but it is no longer necessary to do so for Dave or me. We realize it is an individual choice, but please try to see it from our perspective. In our opinion, the boycott has caused a lot of hurt for a lot of innocent people in Aruba who do not deserve that.



Well, what was the price?  Who paid it?  Have you seen the cancelled check?

Magnolia ... if I produced a "cancelled cheque" this minute  ... you and others on this forum have already concluded that it would have been all Robin's doing and ... poor Dave was manipulated into going along or his marriage and family would be at risk.  It is a foregone conclusion that poor Dave gets a pass.

Janet



That's not fair Janet.  Not fair at all. 

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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