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Author Topic: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 - 9/28/09  (Read 326633 times)
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« Reply #1180 on: September 24, 2009, 08:30:10 PM »

Thank you Kona!
For the radio show transcript.
1)So Don knows something that he cannot share,let's hope he shared it with the right LE or FBI person.

2)I don't like under Sheriff Rick Scott.I don't know why but he gives me a weird feeling.....something about him.

3)So everyone and their Gramma is telling people"search your out buildings,barns,old cars etc.That is a good idea but sometimes I wish they wouldn't say that.....that's like telling a murderer/kidnapper/some freaky sicko"search your property"and the sicko says"okey dokey smokey,consider it done!"

4)I would like the people(LE & KaraK & Media) in McCleary to get out a map and map out Lindsey's at least 6 block walk home from KaraK's house and tell me again how it's 3 to 4 blocks long and is a 7 minute walk.

5)I'm sorry for my pissyness.

6)Please keep Lindsey in your daily thoughts and prayers.

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« Reply #1181 on: September 24, 2009, 10:11:18 PM »

Thank-you Karma  an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1182 on: September 24, 2009, 11:07:42 PM »

I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.

DD - I have been a searcher on all of the organized searches for Lindsey so far and I will go anywhere you direct me.  Please contact me and let me know how big of an area, and how many people are needed to cover area.  There are a lot of good serious searchers willing to help.  I can email ssKlaas or you can to get my contact information.

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It's not big, I think a couple of people could go there easily.  You need 4 wheel drive, and some guts.  thats about it.  If I lived up there I would be there myself.  If I didn't have my dogs, I would be there anyway.   I would recommend no woman go there alone though.  I have one very specific place and walk from there right up a little creek, maybe up the creek a mile or so. It's not going to be hard.

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« Reply #1183 on: September 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM »

This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:

07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
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Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.

When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
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« Reply #1184 on: September 24, 2009, 11:15:05 PM »

make that my left haha.  or at the bottom
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« Reply #1185 on: September 24, 2009, 11:20:41 PM »

This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:

07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
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Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.

When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html


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So, The private search team is only obligated to say nothing if hired by LE ??

Is that what that means ?
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I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.
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« Reply #1186 on: September 24, 2009, 11:21:42 PM »

This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:

07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
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Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.

When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html


this is from the 7/02 report... hmmm so this is before the 8/31/ one
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« Reply #1187 on: September 24, 2009, 11:22:10 PM »

This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:

07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
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Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.

When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html


Highlighted by me in above quote

So, The private search team is only obligated to say nothing if hired by LE ??

Is that what that means ?

I'm not sure.  I'm reading it to mean Mr. Oakes hasn't broken any confidentiality.
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« Reply #1188 on: September 24, 2009, 11:29:11 PM »

dd, I hate to bring this up again . . . but as I was reading in looks like the search fund is empty again, or a least was.  Man!  Maybe that's why the searches are spaced so far apart.  I just don't know.
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« Reply #1189 on: September 24, 2009, 11:31:38 PM »

This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:

07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
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Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.

When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html


this is from the 7/02 report... hmmm so this is before the 8/31/ one

I thought there had been two searches.
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« Reply #1190 on: September 24, 2009, 11:34:16 PM »

This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:

07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
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Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.

When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html


this is from the 7/02 report... hmmm so this is before the 8/31/ one


There was more than one search report ??
 

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I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.
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« Reply #1191 on: September 24, 2009, 11:35:46 PM »

dd, I hate to bring this up again . . . but as I was reading in looks like the search fund is empty again, or a least was.  Man!  Maybe that's why the searches are spaced so far apart.  I just don't know.

Bring your own sack lunch should work.  I doubt people come there to eat anyway. 
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« Reply #1192 on: September 24, 2009, 11:48:48 PM »

This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:

07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
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Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.

When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html


this is from the 7/02 report... hmmm so this is before the 8/31/ one

I thought there had been two searches.

2?  by HO?  he's been there more than that.
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« Reply #1193 on: September 25, 2009, 03:29:58 AM »

Ick. Does anyone know exactly what the search funds cover?
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« Reply #1194 on: September 25, 2009, 11:11:12 AM »

This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:

07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.

When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html



What email?  TIA.

My take when I accessed the link is that the above words are a direct quote from an interview with Harry Oakes with a representative of "The International Canine Search and Rescue Service" and ... Oakes words are not a reference to any particular search ... just his policy.

In my opinion ... the interview with Harry Oakes is a very insightful read in more ways than one.

Janet
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« Reply #1195 on: September 25, 2009, 11:25:45 AM »

Thank you Kona!
For the radio show transcript.
1)So Don knows something that he cannot share,let's hope he shared it with the right LE or FBI person.

2)I don't like under Sheriff Rick Scott.I don't know why but he gives me a weird feeling.....something about him.

3)So everyone and their Gramma is telling people"search your out buildings,barns,old cars etc.That is a good idea but sometimes I wish they wouldn't say that.....that's like telling a murderer/kidnapper/some freaky sicko"search your property"and the sicko says"okey dokey smokey,consider it done!"

4)I would like the people(LE & KaraK & Media) in McCleary to get out a map and map out Lindsey's at least 6 block walk home from KaraK's house and tell me again how it's 3 to 4 blocks long and is a 7 minute walk.

5)I'm sorry for my pissyness.

6)Please keep Lindsey in your daily thoughts and prayers.

 an angelic monkey




My thoughtst exactly Karma.  What's the good in everyone searching their property.  If you kidnap someone or murder someone and the evidence is on your property you aren't going to go to the police and say you found something are you? 
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« Reply #1196 on: September 25, 2009, 11:30:08 AM »

Thank you Kona!
For the radio show transcript.
1)So Don knows something that he cannot share,let's hope he shared it with the right LE or FBI person.

2)I don't like under Sheriff Rick Scott.I don't know why but he gives me a weird feeling.....something about him.

3)So everyone and their Gramma is telling people"search your out buildings,barns,old cars etc.That is a good idea but sometimes I wish they wouldn't say that.....that's like telling a murderer/kidnapper/some freaky sicko"search your property"and the sicko says"okey dokey smokey,consider it done!"

4)I would like the people(LE & KaraK & Media) in McCleary to get out a map and map out Lindsey's at least 6 block walk home from KaraK's house and tell me again how it's 3 to 4 blocks long and is a 7 minute walk.

5)I'm sorry for my pissyness.

6)Please keep Lindsey in your daily thoughts and prayers.

 an angelic monkey


My thoughtst exactly Karma.  What's the good in everyone searching their property.  If you kidnap someone or murder someone and the evidence is on your property you aren't going to go to the police and say you found something are you? 

I guess the only good would be to find a body, otherwise . . . you both are so right.
With the searches spaced so far apart, I'm afraid that's what they are searching for.  It's heart breaking.
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« Reply #1197 on: September 25, 2009, 11:31:27 AM »

The International K-9 Search and Rescue Services' website only lists one report that was submitted to authorities by Harry Oakes in regards to the Lindsey Baum case.  Maybe the website has not been updated if DD has learned that there was a 8/31 report.

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07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.

http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
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« Reply #1198 on: September 25, 2009, 11:35:39 AM »

Last revised 7-27-2009.
         
  Copyright © 2005 International K-9 Search and Rescue Services. All rights reserved.
 

dd, I know more searches were done, does not necessarily mean a report was submitted.  Reading is a wonderful gift as versus . . . !
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« Reply #1199 on: September 25, 2009, 11:54:16 AM »

Last revised 7-27-2009.
         
  Copyright © 2005 International K-9 Search and Rescue Services. All rights reserved.
 

dd, I know more searches were done, does not necessarily mean a report was submitted.  Reading is a wonderful gift as versus . . . !


yes it was submitted.  And ignored.
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