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Author Topic: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 - 9/28/09  (Read 316267 times)
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« Reply #420 on: September 08, 2009, 09:59:44 PM »

wow, that is very odd ....hmmmm

 

makes my wheels turn very fast just thinking about it

Kona, I'm a little surprise too.  You're right -- now every one and their brother will be trampling through these areas.  We can just pray for the best!
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« Reply #421 on: September 08, 2009, 10:10:39 PM »

Janet, do you know if there was or wasn't a contract?  When you go to his site, it appears he is quite a professional, therefore, even though he is a very generous man by donating his services, that doesn't mean there is no contract.
But even if there is no contract, why do you suppose he would wait all this time to reveal publicly his findings?  So on which day of his searches do you think he discovered these things, July or August?

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I have no answers for you.

However ... considering this man's professionality and revealed generousity ... I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he is not bound by a confidentiality agreement or he would not have openly revealed any aspect of the outcome of his canine search in the Lindsey Baum case.

Maybe the lack of action from LE/FBI regarding the findings outlined in his report that he submitted dictated that he will no longer remain silent.  However ... when all is said and done ... I have no idea.  I am only speculating on Mr. Oakes' motives.

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« Reply #422 on: September 08, 2009, 10:19:33 PM »

Pity, somehow I sense this will not help find Lindsey and may in fact harm bringing her home.  It is very sad Mr. Oaks decided to share this info via you and onto the internet (not that you did anything wrong).  Just seems odd to have the spotlight shine in such a fashion.  One would think he could have found a different way.  Prayers for Lindsey!
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« Reply #423 on: September 08, 2009, 10:29:12 PM »

Isn't this what KaraK has already posted on the internet?  Right or wrong, it turns out to be factual and was posted some time ago, correct?
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« Reply #424 on: September 08, 2009, 10:31:08 PM »

Klaas, I had not seen that before, so I'm not sure.  Had not heard or read anything about a death scent trail of any kind.  Shudders!
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« Reply #425 on: September 08, 2009, 10:36:29 PM »

Klaas, I had not seen that before, so I'm not sure.  Had not heard or read anything about a death scent trail of any kind.  Shudders!

The death scent could be anyone at any time, even he somewhat dismissed that part.  But the route and the 6th street part KaraK had posted.
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« Reply #426 on: September 08, 2009, 10:42:14 PM »

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I took it upon myself to email Harry Oakes regarding the report that he send to the FBI concerning the canine search for Lindsey Baum.  I specifically asked him about the detection of Lindsey's scent at 6th and Maple and ... then along 6th Street ... as indicated by Kara Kampen on this forum.

The following was not as clear as I had hoped.  However ... it was an appreciated response nevertheless.

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RE: LINDSEY BAUM SEARCH‏
From:  Harry Oakes (harry98632@yahoo.com
Sent: September 8, 2009 12:12:42 PM



we actually tracked up to Beck St then NE To a logging atv road and our search continues there. So far we've located two empty beer bottles, and a track (Scent trail) heading east 6 miles on either a motor cycle or ATV.

we are also (the search dogs) picking up a dead human alert 1/2 mile East of Beck the winds are coming from the south. I can't tell you about anything else we've found. That's been handed over to the McCleary Police.

Note: The death scent on a dead human could be from any "Dead Human" that has died in the area. Not neccessarily the missing child's scent.

Harry



Klaas

Harry Oakes shared NOTHING about the canine search that revealed Lindsey may have take a diversion off of Maple onto Sixth Street.  Kara Kampen was the one who revealed all on the forum.

However ... Harry Oakes did shared concerning a route that revealed a "death" scent but ... he clearly stated that this "death" scent was not necessarily Lindsey Baum  case related.

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« Reply #427 on: September 08, 2009, 10:46:50 PM »

Thanks Janet.  I'm just not sure why people are so upset over this.
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« Reply #428 on: September 08, 2009, 10:49:33 PM »

Yes, I had gathered that as well, I just had never heard of Beck Street, etc.
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« Reply #429 on: September 08, 2009, 10:50:54 PM »

shoot, hit the button too quick.  Klaas, I'm not upset, just really surprised I think would be a better word.  I do appreciate Janet doing this leg work.
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« Reply #430 on: September 08, 2009, 11:00:45 PM »

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I find it very odd that Harry would divulge anything about his findings to anyone other than family or LE

That is all I have to say about that...lol

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I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.
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« Reply #431 on: September 08, 2009, 11:02:20 PM »

Good Night Monkeys!  Good Night Zookeepers!

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« Reply #432 on: September 08, 2009, 11:03:36 PM »

I've known Tamikosmom long enough to know she would'nt post that if it weren't true.  So I know she got an email from him.  Why he is sharing information, who knows?
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« Reply #433 on: September 08, 2009, 11:07:38 PM »

I've known Tamikosmom long enough to know she would'nt post that if it weren't true.  So I know she got an email from him.  Why he is sharing information, who knows?

Klaas, I never for a moment thought Janet's post wasn't true.  It was just a shock for me as I had not heard about Beck or the death scent trail.
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« Reply #434 on: September 08, 2009, 11:09:28 PM »

I've known Tamikosmom long enough to know she would'nt post that if it weren't true.  So I know she got an email from him.  Why he is sharing information, who knows?

Klaas, I never for a moment thought Janet's post wasn't true.  It was just a shock for me as I had not heard about Beck or the death scent trail.

Right but Konamocha is new to SM and wouldn't know Janet from Adam. 
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« Reply #435 on: September 08, 2009, 11:11:24 PM »

Klassend,

I was not doubting her emails from Harry.

I was just shocked that he would tell a stranger that kind of information

I apologize if it appeared I did not believe she had emailed him and received the response that was posted.

I again, am just shocked that he gave out that kind of information.

I admit that I have no idea why he would want to share that information and it was solely his choice to decide to do so at this time. 

There must be a reason that I do not understand at the moment ... but rest assured , we will know why at a later date ...lol



 
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I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.
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« Reply #436 on: September 08, 2009, 11:12:08 PM »

Maybe Mr. Oakes is frustrated that whatever he shared with LE has gone nowhere. Perhaps he held back the information in the beginning, but decided to come forward after there was not any action. I think a lot of things are going to change with the Jaycee Dugard case. Too many people are upset that that poor girl went through what she did for 18 years! If LE was on the ball, I don't think there would be so many cybersleuths. JMO
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« Reply #437 on: September 08, 2009, 11:19:07 PM »

That very well could be the case sebastian

It was not my intention to make Janet feel like I was attacking her .

I admit my frustration got the better of me and she was just posting the information she received.

I am still in shock though  lol

Sorry Janet if that is how I made you feel 

Will try to keep emotions in check from now on but there are no guarantees 
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I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.
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« Reply #438 on: September 08, 2009, 11:23:55 PM »

Maybe Mr. Oakes is frustrated that whatever he shared with LE has gone nowhere. Perhaps he held back the information in the beginning, but decided to come forward after there was not any action. I think a lot of things are going to change with the Jaycee Dugard case. Too many people are upset that that poor girl went through what she did for 18 years! If LE was on the ball, I don't think there would be so many cybersleuths. JMO

sebastian, I think you have hit on the truth here.  Mr. Oakes as I recall did this back in early July.  If LE has not followed up by now, when will they ever?  I''d guess never.   Personally, I am glad he is talking.     

 
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« Reply #439 on: September 08, 2009, 11:30:36 PM »

Chi, I'm glad he's talking too -- I just think it odd to reveal this information on a forum and not via the press or something like that.  That part, I just don't get.
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