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Topic: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 - 9/28/09 (Read 479699 times)
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Tamikosmom
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 11, 2009, 06:47:27 PM »
Something happened to Lindsey Baum somewhere between 5th and Maple and ... her home. Did Josh go home as instructed following the argument between him and Lindsey? Was he at home with Mom when Lindsey left the Kampen residence? If the answer is "YES" ... then I will focus on another person of interest.
Janet
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THE ARGUMENT
ABC NEWS - June 30, 2009
Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother, Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house. Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1
Kara Kampen:
As for the argument: according to my daughter right now: it started at Shell station (this is where they left the bike) then they continued walking til they were on Maple. … They were several houses down from mine when the family friend (who apparently was visiting a another friend on this street) told Josh to go home.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg868953#msg868953
The Daily World - July 3, 2009
Kampen said she has replayed that Friday evening in her head over and over. So has her daughter, Michaela, 10, who spent the day swimming with Lindsey. They walked together with Josh Baum, 13, to the Kampen house. But halfway there, Michaela said they teased Josh, getting under his skin ...
http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt
Kara Kampen:
Josh had gotten into so many spats that honestly were in a large part things he did not start but because he was the oldest he was the one who got in trouble. I've set down kids I've never met before to have a talk with them because I heard that they were antagonizing him to see if he'd blow up.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871164;topicseen#msg871164
NOT A STRANGER ABDUCTION
Expert: Missing girl likely went with someone she knew
09:58 PM PDT on Wednesday, July 1, 2009
A national expert helping in the search for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum says someone Lindsey knew might be responsible for her disappearance. Baum vanished while walking home from a friend’s house Friday around 9 p.m.
"Based on the information I have, it’s someone she possibly knows or is in the area, not outside the area," said Henry Schmidt, with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children..
Schmidt, a retired sheriff from Wyoming, arrived in McCleary to assist with the search Sunday.
http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_070109WAB-mccleary-KS.260ea8b9.html
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 11, 2009, 06:52:08 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
Something happened to Lindsey Baum somewhere between 5th and Maple and ... her home. Did Josh go home as instructed following the argument between him and Lindsey? Was he at home with Mom when Lindsey left the Kampen residence? If the answer is "YES" ... then I will focus on another person of interest.
Janet
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THE ARGUMENT
ABC NEWS - June 30, 2009
Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother, Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house. Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1
Kara Kampen:
As for the argument: according to my daughter right now: it started at Shell station (this is where they left the bike) then they continued walking til they were on Maple. … They were several houses down from mine when the family friend (who apparently was visiting a another friend on this street) told Josh to go home.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg868953#msg868953
The Daily World - July 3, 2009
Kampen said she has replayed that Friday evening in her head over and over. So has her daughter, Michaela, 10, who spent the day swimming with Lindsey. They walked together with Josh Baum, 13, to the Kampen house. But halfway there, Michaela said they teased Josh, getting under his skin ...
http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt
Kara Kampen:
Josh had gotten into so many spats that honestly were in a large part things he did not start but because he was the oldest he was the one who got in trouble. I've set down kids I've never met before to have a talk with them because I heard that they were antagonizing him to see if he'd blow up.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871164;topicseen#msg871164
NOT A STRANGER ABDUCTION
Expert: Missing girl likely went with someone she knew
09:58 PM PDT on Wednesday, July 1, 2009
A national expert helping in the search for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum says someone Lindsey knew might be responsible for her disappearance. Baum vanished while walking home from a friend’s house Friday around 9 p.m.
"Based on the information I have, it’s someone she possibly knows or is in the area, not outside the area," said Henry Schmidt, with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children..
Schmidt, a retired sheriff from Wyoming, arrived in McCleary to assist with the search Sunday.
http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_070109WAB-mccleary-KS.260ea8b9.html
and I will clear this up also....
the answer is YES, JOSH WAS HOME WHEN LINDSEY WENT MISSING. I asked, and that is the answer I got.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 11, 2009, 06:53:18 PM »
There is no credible backup that implies that Marilyn LaChester is unstable ... is a liar. Is it not possible that Lindsey Baum had an advocate ... an advocate that only cared about her well-being?
Janet
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Thanks DD, so Josh was home.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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and before this gossip even gets started when melissa goes to get her nails done...
she was given a gift certificate
from someone who said she needed to go have something done for herself...
but you know how people are, someone will see her there and start rumors she is spending money on her nails...
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 11, 2009, 06:55:16 PM »
Quote from: doubledecker on September 11, 2009, 06:52:08 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
Something happened to Lindsey Baum somewhere between 5th and Maple and ... her home. Did Josh go home as instructed following the argument between him and Lindsey? Was he at home with Mom when Lindsey left the Kampen residence? If the answer is "YES" ... then I will focus on another person of interest.
Janet
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THE ARGUMENT
ABC NEWS - June 30, 2009
Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother, Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house. Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1
Kara Kampen:
As for the argument: according to my daughter right now: it started at Shell station (this is where they left the bike) then they continued walking til they were on Maple. … They were several houses down from mine when the family friend (who apparently was visiting a another friend on this street) told Josh to go home.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg868953#msg868953
The Daily World - July 3, 2009
Kampen said she has replayed that Friday evening in her head over and over. So has her daughter, Michaela, 10, who spent the day swimming with Lindsey. They walked together with Josh Baum, 13, to the Kampen house. But halfway there, Michaela said they teased Josh, getting under his skin ...
http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt
Kara Kampen:
Josh had gotten into so many spats that honestly were in a large part things he did not start but because he was the oldest he was the one who got in trouble. I've set down kids I've never met before to have a talk with them because I heard that they were antagonizing him to see if he'd blow up.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871164;topicseen#msg871164
NOT A STRANGER ABDUCTION
Expert: Missing girl likely went with someone she knew
09:58 PM PDT on Wednesday, July 1, 2009
A national expert helping in the search for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum says someone Lindsey knew might be responsible for her disappearance. Baum vanished while walking home from a friend’s house Friday around 9 p.m.
"Based on the information I have, it’s someone she possibly knows or is in the area, not outside the area," said Henry Schmidt, with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children..
Schmidt, a retired sheriff from Wyoming, arrived in McCleary to assist with the search Sunday.
http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_070109WAB-mccleary-KS.260ea8b9.html
and I will clear this up also....
the answer is YES, JOSH WAS HOME WHEN LINDSEY WENT MISSING. I asked, and that is the answer I got.
DD ... why was this not revealed before? Who provided you with this information? Melissa?
Janet
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 06:53:18 PM
There is no credible backup that implies that Marilyn LaChester is unstable ... is a liar. Is it not possible that Lindsey Baum had an advocate ... an advocate that only cared about her well-being?
Janet
she says one thing on the net and something else to her friends. she is lying. It can't be both ways. the very person you are quoting to prove your point is the very person who says she is making it up because she is mad.
I really don't understand how you really believe what you do. but you can believe it, however, I am sure I know better, and would hope anyone reading what I am posting can see it is all lies and crap.
even her friends say she lies, call her crazy marilyn, say she is a liar.
what more do you want omg she has welcomed anyone to contact her through her myspace. go ask her for the report she said she had. you would think she would be more than happy to give you a copy to post for all the world to see if she had one. she does not have one, she lied. she keeps lying. I have over 100 emails with things I follow up on about all of these things. she will talk with you on her myspace, go ask her for crying out loud. LOL
lindsey never told her about any white car... she made that up too. I know exactly where the white car stories orginated. when pinned down about that marilyn says she heard about a white it but doesn't know anything.
her mom's best friend is saying she is lying. Others don't tell her anything because she twists is all around and blabs it all over. she is NOT CREDIBLE whatsoever.
however, I am done. I posted it for you, I have a lot more but it is pointless LOL
I just feel horrible that MB has to have this crap going on, on top of losing her daughter. It's bad enough having your daughter missing, but then you have people saying she is responsible because someone who hates her lies, the very someone who was the focus of the investigation right off. Who got mad. If ML truly thought MB had anything to do with this do you think she would have shut up and went away? heck no, marilyn is the kind of person who would still be screaming it from the rooftops, but she quit because it is not true and she knows it and so does anyone there who matters.
The police know she is lying... they were investigater HER, NOT MB.
MB was cleared... ML was being looked at.
see how this turned out to be a huge fight and someone MAD who got on the net and lied
well, anyway. I have my info and you have ? I am not sure what? some lying posts from ML who quickly shut up and went away.
so I don't know. but I tried to clear this up... people can believe whatever they like. guess my efforts mean I am just wasting my time LOL
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 11, 2009, 07:15:42 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: doubledecker on September 11, 2009, 06:52:08 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
Something happened to Lindsey Baum somewhere between 5th and Maple and ... her home. Did Josh go home as instructed following the argument between him and Lindsey? Was he at home with Mom when Lindsey left the Kampen residence? If the answer is "YES" ... then I will focus on another person of interest.
Janet
++++++
THE ARGUMENT
ABC NEWS - June 30, 2009
Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother, Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house. Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1
Kara Kampen:
As for the argument: according to my daughter right now: it started at Shell station (this is where they left the bike) then they continued walking til they were on Maple. … They were several houses down from mine when the family friend (who apparently was visiting a another friend on this street) told Josh to go home.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg868953#msg868953
The Daily World - July 3, 2009
Kampen said she has replayed that Friday evening in her head over and over. So has her daughter, Michaela, 10, who spent the day swimming with Lindsey. They walked together with Josh Baum, 13, to the Kampen house. But halfway there, Michaela said they teased Josh, getting under his skin ...
http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt
Kara Kampen:
Josh had gotten into so many spats that honestly were in a large part things he did not start but because he was the oldest he was the one who got in trouble. I've set down kids I've never met before to have a talk with them because I heard that they were antagonizing him to see if he'd blow up.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871164;topicseen#msg871164
NOT A STRANGER ABDUCTION
Expert: Missing girl likely went with someone she knew
09:58 PM PDT on Wednesday, July 1, 2009
A national expert helping in the search for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum says someone Lindsey knew might be responsible for her disappearance. Baum vanished while walking home from a friend’s house Friday around 9 p.m.
"Based on the information I have, it’s someone she possibly knows or is in the area, not outside the area," said Henry Schmidt, with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children..
Schmidt, a retired sheriff from Wyoming, arrived in McCleary to assist with the search Sunday.
http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_070109WAB-mccleary-KS.260ea8b9.html
and I will clear this up also....
the answer is YES, JOSH WAS HOME WHEN LINDSEY WENT MISSING. I asked, and that is the answer I got.
DD ... why was this not revealed before? Who provided you with this information? Melissa?
Janet
well in the beginning I did not know the answer to this question and by the time I found out, I was not here, and I avoid getting into this back and forth nonsense as much as I can. but I am telling you now, so there it is. you can believe it or not, I don't care, but I am telling it as truth, so I guess next I am lying ? LOL
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 11, 2009, 07:23:14 PM »
Quote from: doubledecker on September 11, 2009, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: doubledecker on September 11, 2009, 06:52:08 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
Something happened to Lindsey Baum somewhere between 5th and Maple and ... her home. Did Josh go home as instructed following the argument between him and Lindsey? Was he at home with Mom when Lindsey left the Kampen residence? If the answer is "YES" ... then I will focus on another person of interest.
Janet
++++++
THE ARGUMENT
ABC NEWS - June 30, 2009
Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother, Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house. Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1
Kara Kampen:
As for the argument: according to my daughter right now: it started at Shell station (this is where they left the bike) then they continued walking til they were on Maple. … They were several houses down from mine when the family friend (who apparently was visiting a another friend on this street) told Josh to go home.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg868953#msg868953
The Daily World - July 3, 2009
Kampen said she has replayed that Friday evening in her head over and over. So has her daughter, Michaela, 10, who spent the day swimming with Lindsey. They walked together with Josh Baum, 13, to the Kampen house. But halfway there, Michaela said they teased Josh, getting under his skin ...
http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt
Kara Kampen:
Josh had gotten into so many spats that honestly were in a large part things he did not start but because he was the oldest he was the one who got in trouble. I've set down kids I've never met before to have a talk with them because I heard that they were antagonizing him to see if he'd blow up.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg871164;topicseen#msg871164
NOT A STRANGER ABDUCTION
Expert: Missing girl likely went with someone she knew
09:58 PM PDT on Wednesday, July 1, 2009
A national expert helping in the search for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum says someone Lindsey knew might be responsible for her disappearance. Baum vanished while walking home from a friend’s house Friday around 9 p.m.
"Based on the information I have, it’s someone she possibly knows or is in the area, not outside the area," said Henry Schmidt, with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children..
Schmidt, a retired sheriff from Wyoming, arrived in McCleary to assist with the search Sunday.
http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_070109WAB-mccleary-KS.260ea8b9.html
and I will clear this up also....
the answer is YES, JOSH WAS HOME WHEN LINDSEY WENT MISSING. I asked, and that is the answer I got.
DD ... why was this not revealed before? Who provided you with this information? Melissa?
Janet
well in the beginning I did not know the answer to this question and by the time I found out, I was not here, and I avoid getting into this back and forth nonsense as much as I can. but I am telling you now, so there it is. you can believe it or not, I don't care, but I am telling it as truth,
so I guess next I am lying
? LOL
I do not think for one minute that you are lying. However ... what is the big deal about sharing the source of this info with the forum so each can determine for herself whether the source is credible.
Thanks
Janet
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who in the world sits and shares all their sources? do you realize how many sources I have and many do not want anyone to know they are talking to anyone. How many sources would you have if everytime someone told you something you run to a forum and post their name and what they said.
There is a reason why people talk to me.
it is this way "I" am the one saying it. I am the one who believes it is true, so people can believe I did my homework on this and I asked and I believe it...
and this is one of the very reasons why I don't tell everything, every time I do give info I get the 3rd degree etc, or told I am making it up or whatever.
if the police say it do you call them up and ask the name of their source. heck maybe they would tell you if josh was home or not if you would ask them.
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I am done, I'm going to go discuss with someone sane.
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DD
I provide the forum with the source of speculations. Each poster ... including you ... is free to accept or reject my backup.
However ... when you claim that Josh was home when Lindsey left the Kampen residence on the evening she when missing and fail to provide backup ...
Am I making sense?
Janet
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Quote from: DMCLEAN42 on September 11, 2009, 02:12:32 PM
Sister.... I have to agree with you.
I feel that tamikosmom is in the wrong.
This is my first time ever commenting on this site. But for the record, Melissa Baum took a polygraph and PASSED if anybody remembers! this is why she isn't a suspect! My goodness! I live in Washington but not in Mccleary and don't know anybody involved directly, but come on. People are missing the point. The point is not to point fingers at the family, it is to find Lindsey alive and bring her home. Look at the Jaycee Duggard case. He step dad was blamed by outsiders all along and he was innocent. She was alive just minutes from her home. So nobody should give up hope, just remember what is important.
Welcome DMCLEAN42!
As I'm sure you are aware, this is a forum where each individual is free to express their opinions. Just because Tamikosmom has a different opinion does not mean she is in the wrong.
Every person has their right to feel the way they feel...and never are they in the wrong for feeling that way.
I am glad you are here and look forward to hearing your thoughts on this case.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 07:31:40 PM
DD
I provide the forum with the source of speculations. Each poster ... including you ... is free to accept or reject my backup.
However ... when you claim that Josh was home when Lindsey left the Kampen residence on the evening she when missing and fail to provide backup ...
Am I making sense?
Janet
Janet,
FWIW, you are making complete sense to me....and I am not siding with anyone on any of this. However, I think this is a huge part of this case. Whether Josh was home or not, to me, means alot.
I also understand where sometimes you just dont feel comfortable revealing your source for info. But with that said, I still would like to know who said that and decide for myself if that source is credible.
Personally I do not take anything Marilyn says seriously...and that is just my own opinion.
I also trust DD's judgement most of the time but I still would like to come to my own conclusion as to who/what to believe.
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Quote from: doubledecker on September 11, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
I am done,
I'm going to go discuss with someone sane
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DD ... now bowing down to your every word without question does not make me or anybody on this forum insane.
You are so disrespectful.
Janet
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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SELF EDIT
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Quote from: Leroy on September 11, 2009, 07:42:30 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2009, 07:31:40 PM
DD
I provide the forum with the source of speculations. Each poster ... including you ... is free to accept or reject my backup.
However ... when you claim that Josh was home when Lindsey left the Kampen residence on the evening she when missing and fail to provide backup ...
Am I making sense?
Janet
Janet,
FWIW, you are making complete sense to me....and I am not siding with anyone on any of this. However, I think this is a huge part of this case. Whether Josh was home or not, to me, means alot.
I also understand where sometimes you just dont feel comfortable revealing your source for info. But with that said, I still would like to know who said that and decide for myself if that source is credible.
Personally I do not take anything Marilyn says seriously...and that is just my own opinion.
I also trust DD's judgement most of the time but I still would like to come to my own conclusion as to who/what to believe.
Thank you Leroy.
Janet
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DD - I think the issue here is that you have info that you are unable or unwilling to reveal.
That is fine and I respect that you choose to do that because at the end of the day you are here for one reason only - the missing person that so deseperatly needs to be found - and I admire you for that
It just makes it hard for those of us that dont have this inside info/source to always take what you say as 100% fact.
Trust me, I would never doubt for a second that you have not put your heart and soul into finding Lindsey. But others sometimes have to also *see it to believe it* if you know what I mean.
Anyways, lets just keep on keeping on and bring Lindsey home!
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can we please stop all this fighting? everyone is free to have and express their own opinion.
tamiko's mom-i totally understand your point of view and it is really important to know whether or not josh was home.
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DD and Janet,
I'm not gonna take sides in this, cuz I like and respect each of you! You both have contributed greatly to these cases, each in your own way. Perhaps this is a clash, and I know the two of you can handle it without hurting each other's feelings.
I've worked on a high profile case before, as the go-between in a forum and an undisclosed source, who privately contacted me and the forum mod. Undisclosed for the personal safety of that source, who still today remains undisclosed, as the case is hopefully nearing an end. Wayyyyyy too near the perp (family-wise) to be able to post online who said this, who said that, etc. The only way I could deal with the received info was to state it was "from our source", and the members in the forum had to accept that or not. But at least knowing the info came from our source, gave them the choice of believing, or not, and that was important, that they had that choice.
So when info is shared in this forum, it's good to know where that info came from, even if one can only say 'an undisclosed source', or some such. To put the info out there, even in quotes from an email etc, without saying where it came from, gives us little in knowing whether to believe the info or not.
DD.... Personally, because I've worked with you a little on another case, I do believe you to be sincere in what you post, with or without a source. Perhaps others in here don't know you as well, and are unsure, opting instead to know the source so they can make up their minds as per the info, etc. Please remember, it's not the poster being questioned, it's the info posted. There's a huge difference!
Just saying.... no one in here is calling anyone else who provides info without a source a "liar". Seems they are just asking for the source, same as is done for any info brought in.
For example, it would be helpful to know 'who' told you, DD, that Josh was at home at the time that Lindsey went missing. I realize that you have tons of info coming at you privately, with a number of different sources. Not asking who every one of those sources are! Just asking the source of whatever info that you do provide to us.
Again, DD and Janet... I admire and respect each of you... And I appreciate what each of you bring to our forum, and hope you each will, in your own ways, continue to contribute. I think this can be worked thru, especially if it's remembered to react/respond to the info posted, not to the poster themself. Ya know?
Monkey hugs!!!
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