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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on September 24, 2009, 08:14:03 PM
Thank you Kona!
For the radio show transcript.
1)So Don knows something that he cannot share,let's hope he shared it with the right LE or FBI person.
2)I don't like under Sheriff Rick Scott.I don't know why but he gives me a weird feeling.....something about him.
3)So everyone and their Gramma is telling people"search your out buildings,barns,old cars etc.That is a good idea but sometimes I wish they wouldn't say that.....that's like telling a murderer/kidnapper/some freaky sicko"search your property"and the sicko says"okey dokey smokey,consider it done!"
4)I would like the people(LE & KaraK & Media) in McCleary to get out a map and map out Lindsey's at least 6 block walk home from KaraK's house and tell me again how it's 3 to 4 blocks long and is a 7 minute walk.
5)I'm sorry for my pissyness.
6)Please keep Lindsey in your daily thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Thank-you Karma
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: sherip on September 24, 2009, 05:35:18 PM
Quote from: doubledecker on September 23, 2009, 10:59:00 PM
I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.
DD - I have been a searcher on all of the organized searches for Lindsey so far and I will go anywhere you direct me. Please contact me and let me know how big of an area, and how many people are needed to cover area. There are a lot of good serious searchers willing to help. I can email ssKlaas or you can to get my contact information.
Thanks
It's not big, I think a couple of people could go there easily. You need 4 wheel drive, and some guts. thats about it. If I lived up there I would be there myself. If I didn't have my dogs, I would be there anyway. I would recommend no woman go there alone though. I have one very specific place and walk from there right up a little creek, maybe up the creek a mile or so. It's not going to be hard.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:
07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.
When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.
http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
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make that my left haha. or at the bottom
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:
07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.
When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.
http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
Highlighted by me in above quote
So, The private search team is only obligated to say nothing if hired by LE ??
Is that what that means ?
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on 09-23-2009 at 09:59:00 PM
I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:
07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.
When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.
http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
this is from the 7/02 report... hmmm so this is before the 8/31/ one
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: KONAMOCHA on September 24, 2009, 11:20:41 PM
Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:
07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.
When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.
http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
Highlighted by me in above quote
So, The private search team is only obligated to say nothing if hired by LE ??
Is that what that means ?
I'm not sure. I'm reading it to mean Mr. Oakes hasn't broken any confidentiality.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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dd, I hate to bring this up again . . . but as I was reading in looks like the search fund is empty again, or a least was. Man! Maybe that's why the searches are spaced so far apart. I just don't know.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 24, 2009, 11:31:38 PM »
Quote from: doubledecker on September 24, 2009, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:
07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.
When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.
http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
this is from the 7/02 report... hmmm so this is before the 8/31/ one
I thought there had been two searches.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 24, 2009, 11:34:16 PM »
Quote from: doubledecker on September 24, 2009, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:
07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.
When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.
http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
this is from the 7/02 report... hmmm so this is before the 8/31/ one
There was more than one search report ??
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I have enough information now I believe I might know exactly where someone should go search...if anyone reads this, is there locally, able to actually go to where I point out, and will put aside all the bs and just go out there, I will tell you where to go.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:29:11 PM
dd, I hate to bring this up again . . . but as I was reading in looks like the search fund is empty again, or a least was. Man! Maybe that's why the searches are spaced so far apart. I just don't know.
Bring your own sack lunch should work. I doubt people come there to eat anyway.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 24, 2009, 11:48:48 PM »
Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: doubledecker on September 24, 2009, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:
07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.
When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.
http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
this is from the 7/02 report... hmmm so this is before the 8/31/ one
I thought there had been two searches.
2? by HO? he's been there more than that.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Ick. Does anyone know exactly what the search funds cover?
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: Sister on September 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
This may be the rest of the e-mail from Mr. Oakes -- it was posted on Insession:
07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD.
...
Note: Many of the police depts in Ore. and Washington don't like us because we come in to the search privately on behalf of the family and find the victim or what happened to the victim when the police and their certified K-9 SAR teams failed to find anything.
When a police dept calls us in, we work for them, and won’t talk to anyone regarding their case and our findings.
http://www.k9sardog.com/searches.html
What email? TIA.
My take
when I accessed the link is that the above words are a direct quote from an interview with Harry Oakes with a representative of "The International Canine Search and Rescue Service" and ... Oakes words are not a reference to any particular search ... just his policy.
In my opinion ... the interview with Harry Oakes is a very insightful read in more ways than one.
Janet
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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September 25, 2009, 11:25:45 AM »
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on September 24, 2009, 08:14:03 PM
Thank you Kona!
For the radio show transcript.
1)So Don knows something that he cannot share,let's hope he shared it with the right LE or FBI person.
2)I don't like under Sheriff Rick Scott.I don't know why but he gives me a weird feeling.....something about him.
3)So everyone and their Gramma is telling people"search your out buildings,barns,old cars etc.That is a good idea but sometimes I wish they wouldn't say that.....that's like telling a murderer/kidnapper/some freaky sicko"search your property"and the sicko says"okey dokey smokey,consider it done!"
4)I would like the people(LE & KaraK & Media) in McCleary to get out a map and map out Lindsey's at least 6 block walk home from KaraK's house and tell me again how it's 3 to 4 blocks long and is a 7 minute walk.
5)I'm sorry for my pissyness.
6)Please keep Lindsey in your daily thoughts and prayers.
My thoughtst exactly Karma. What's the good in everyone searching their property. If you kidnap someone or murder someone and the evidence is on your property you aren't going to go to the police and say you found something are you?
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Quote from: canadianmonkey on September 25, 2009, 11:25:45 AM
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on September 24, 2009, 08:14:03 PM
Thank you Kona!
For the radio show transcript.
1)So Don knows something that he cannot share,let's hope he shared it with the right LE or FBI person.
2)I don't like under Sheriff Rick Scott.I don't know why but he gives me a weird feeling.....something about him.
3)So everyone and their Gramma is telling people"search your out buildings,barns,old cars etc.That is a good idea but sometimes I wish they wouldn't say that.....that's like telling a murderer/kidnapper/some freaky sicko"search your property"and the sicko says"okey dokey smokey,consider it done!"
4)I would like the people(LE & KaraK & Media) in McCleary to get out a map and map out Lindsey's at least 6 block walk home from KaraK's house and tell me again how it's 3 to 4 blocks long and is a 7 minute walk.
5)I'm sorry for my pissyness.
6)Please keep Lindsey in your daily thoughts and prayers.
My thoughtst exactly Karma. What's the good in everyone searching their property. If you kidnap someone or murder someone and the evidence is on your property you aren't going to go to the police and say you found something are you?
I guess the only good would be to find a body, otherwise . . . you both are so right.
With the searches spaced so far apart, I'm afraid that's what they are searching for. It's heart breaking.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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The International K-9 Search and Rescue Services' website only lists one report that was submitted to authorities by Harry Oakes in regards to the Lindsey Baum case. Maybe the website has not been updated if DD has learned that there was a 8/31 report.
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07-02-09 Re: 06-28-09 5963-323(B). Missing child. Gray’s Harbor Co. Wa. Lindsey Baum McCleary, Wa. Age 10. Sent my search report to FBI and McCleary City PD
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 4 8/26/09 -
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Last revised 7-27-2009.
Copyright © 2005 International K-9 Search and Rescue Services. All rights reserved.
dd, I know more searches were done, does not necessarily mean a report was submitted. Reading is a wonderful gift as versus . . . !
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Quote from: Sister on September 25, 2009, 11:35:39 AM
Last revised 7-27-2009.
Copyright © 2005 International K-9 Search and Rescue Services. All rights reserved.
dd, I know more searches were done, does not necessarily mean a report was submitted. Reading is a wonderful gift as versus . . . !
yes it was submitted. And ignored.
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===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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