Peter R. de Vries ProgramNovember 26, 2006From FOB:(Tjeerd) First part has been broadcasted. De Vries ends with statement that Joran used lyers logic which De Vries has seen in many other cases
(Tjeerd) The tone of the show is very partial against Joran...
(Tjeerd) The facts seem the ok, apart from what was said about Paulus, tourism boycott and the lies of J2K..
(Tjeerd) The lies are being milked out. De Vries says why did they lie if they were not guilty...
(Tjeerd) The antipathy between Joran and Deepak during the interviews is being stressed..
(Tjeerd) The shoes of Joran: did he forget them or was there another reason. He lied about his shoe size. De Vries doesn't believe he forgot the shoes. If body would be found maybe the shoe print would be found (reason; or blood on the shoe).
(Tjeerd) Joran had very many girl friend and was seksual promiscuous. He is violent and a thief. He threw the drug bum in the water during festivities.
(Tjeerd) Second part ended with video shots of Van der Sloot and Kalpoe surroundings...
(Tjeerd) De Vries stresses very pronounced Joran did download 2 sexmovies and watched for 2 hours after he was home...
(Tjeerd) Attorney of Deepak: Joran is excellent actor; Joran lied about who drove him back; story of the shoes isn't true.
De Vries has heard: Joran is lying a lot and he got a helping hand of his father..
(Tjeerd) 18 juni 2005: Joran fell out of his role; Jacobs called him a devil. Joran: very angry and he said you know nothing; he tells about Natalee being buried etc. Later Joran goyt to himself again...
Soap between Jansen and Croes
Joran could adapt his story because of the quareel between Janssen and Croes...
(Tjeerd) King, friend of the family was in the appartment when it was searched..
(Tjeerd) Mr de Witt decided only Joran's appartment would be searched and not the whole area
(Tjeerd) Video shots of De Vries calling Paul Van der Sloot. Paulus complains De Vries calls this a murder case. He doubts the open attitude of De Vries. He won't talk about the case at this moment to De Vries.
(Tjeerd) Mr. Carlo has said to Karin Janssen Joran played a major part in the disappearance of Natalee, but he would not give any evidence....according to De Vries. Later on Carlo denied he has said this.
(Tjeerd) Mr. Carlo is interviewed> De Vries comments he knows striking little details of this important case. De Vries is apparently compromising mr. Carlo...
(subsequent edited version:) Mr. Carlo is interviewed> De Vries comments he knows striking little details of this important case. De Vries is apparently compromising mr. Carlo... Mr. Carlo says he doesn't want to react to Janssen's letter to him and explains it is an internal matter...
(Tjeerd) Mr. Janssen answers a letter of De Vries. She confirms the whole area should have been searched...
(subsequent edited version:)[/) Mr. Janssen answers a letter of De Vries. She confirms the whole area should have been searched... She doesn't mention the Ben King thing. She doesn't go into her talks with mr. Carlo.
(Tjeerd) End part 3. De Vries shows picture of Joran and Natalee which he got from the burglary. According to De Vries picture was taken in Beth's house...
(It was an old photo of Natalee with her friends New Years Eve 2004. Someone, photoshopped Joran into the picture)(Tjeerd) Joran did go to computershop in Holland in Oktober 2005 to delete everything on his pc harddisk... De vries thinks this is very suspicious...
(Tjeerd) De Vries thinks Joran wants to fake an early friendship with Natalee by photoshopping some photos with Natalee on it... This is PATHETIC....
(Rotterdam )A lot of rehap, much of the Monkeys/BFN Proces Verbaal on screen.
De Vries going to the vd Sloots home and the Kalpoes home and not finding anybody at home. Surprise, surprise.
Natalee did drink a lot and did do drugs ( cocaine ) regarding witnesses/roommates
(Rotterdam ) Paul van der Sloot said in a phone conversation with Peter de Vries that they had a lot to tell but they will not do that just now because of people involved who could be hurt by this information
(Rotterdam ) Anita wrote a e mail to Peter de Vries that he came to their door in Aruba and to Joran's house in Arnhem and she is going to inform police, the board of journalist in the Netherlands and the CEO of SBS6 ( broad coasting company of Peter's programme ) with complains . Peter told the audience that this reacting is very telling. I think Mr. Peter forgets that the van der Sloots have had the Nancy Grace's,Greta van Susteren's,Geraldo's of this world at their doorstep for almost 16 months and they are fed up. I would not have send Mr.Peter a polite email but told them to F**K OFF !!!
(HannieC) LMAO, Before the commercials he showed a pic ( old one of newyears eve with Natalee with her hand in the airt and a drink) with Joran photoshopped in it!! As if he was there at that party in Alabama.......
From BFN:(Mitral)The show is called The secret of Aruba
Short introduction, chronical events, Excelsior Casino, C&C
Video of the black jack table and of the Honda leaving with NH.
He is about to analyze the May 9, 2005 statements of all 3 of them. The lies were deliberate and well prepared, this according to his often experienced "lyers logic" a sign that they know more and had to lie.
Until so far, there is a commercial now. Most of the time it is a reconstruction with actors.
(Mitral)It goes too fast to write it down quickly, a lot statements are quoted in big letters. The police and justice department assume now that the beach story was invented and that the crime scene could be JVDS cottage.
Her roommate has declared to the police N. was often drunk and needed to be escorted to her room. Note: this is an offical statement to the police, not from JVDS.
Scenario one:
NH was drunk and under the influence of drugs. Her death was a result of that and Joran paniced and asked his father for help.
(Mitral)Conflicting statements of D and J are apparent. offical investigation in Holland points at Deepak telling the truth. Later on J lies in Nova and says Satish picked him up, also the story about D and the dogs. Lies and more lies.
(Mitral) Peter shows a photo of Natalee and Joran together in HER home in Alabama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Mitral)Most important fact of this 3rd part: Peter´s confrontation with lawyer CARLO. Peter has a secret tip that Carlo asked JANSSEN for a private meeting because he wanted to get a clear conscience. It is said he pointed towards Joran, but told Janssen that Justice Dep had to get all the evidence. JANSSEN has later on written him a letter to persuede him to tell more. Peter visits Carlo with a secret camera and he shows to be very uncomforable.
After the break Peter will visit Joran in Holland, to show him the picture of N and J together in her home in the US.
(Mitral) Peter discovers an order to
hakers-rule@hotmail.com to phtochop the picture. It costs 200 euro. Kees D, the chopper, sends cofirmation to J.
Sloot@gmail.com. So Joran has asked for photochopping while he a suspect himself?
Peter confronts Joran but he doesn´t want to talk and calls the police.
Letter written to Paul stays unanswered.
(Mitral)For me, at first look, teh most important points:
1) Conflicting statements Deepak and Joran. Deepak´s lawyer confirms this to Peter and Peter comes with offical sms and chat reports. Story about picking up from the beach can´t be true.
2)Fight between Karin Janssen en Kroes-Vernandez. Janssen did not act fast enough according to K. Later on Janssen orders search house search but when the police rings the bell, mr. Ben King opens (right hand of Kroes and personal friend of Paul). Mr. Bob de Wit "rechter-commissaris" only allows limited search, J´s cottage, not the main house and property. Why did he go against Janssen?
3)Mr. Carlo asks Janssen for private talk to clear his conscience. Secret tip says he points at J. but tells Janssen the justice department needs to find the evidence on its own. Later on Janssen asks about more information when the case is stuck. Carlo responds but nobody knows what he wrote. When Peter confronts him the hidden camera shows uncomforatbility and he denies. When Peter confronts Janssen with it she says she won´t comment because "Carlo denies his statement now" (what would be the analysis of this statement of her)
(Mitral).
4) Karin Janssen seems to have manipulated the Opsproing Verzocht by wanting it to be a wide program, not only focused on J and 2K. Opsp Verzocht editors say they are frustrated because 2 questions were not allowed to be asked in the program 1)where are the shoes 2)how did Joran get home.
5) Janssen doesn´t want to talk with Peter and doesn´t answer all his question in his 6 page letter to her.
(Mitral).
6)In october 2005 Joran ask computer shop to delete all his files without back up. This happens and no files are left behind.
7)Manipulated photo is probably chopped by Kees D.
hakers-rule@hotmail.com for 200 euro. Email about it sent to
J.Sloot@g.mail.com Peter confronts Joran, but he refuses to mtalk and calls the police.
9)Paul refuses to answer a leter but Anita writes to Peter that she will complain to the director of SBS 6, and 2 other thinsg I can´t recall now but Ramm probably will.
(Rammstein ) 1. at first the show starts with it's version of the facts (gained from the police files)
2. the show paints a picture of the lies told in the story and says that often liars who know a victim will not be able to contradict the lies are common in criminal cases
3. the show talks about the shoes, that Joran lied about his shoe size and that the police suspects he made the shoes disappear in case Natalee is found. His footprints at the burial site can never be traced to his shoes when they are gone
4. the show shows an american witness report in which it says that Natalee was highly drunk the night before she went missing and had to be carried/helped to her room because she was so drunk she was unable to walk. the show also says this witness statement shows that on the day of her disappearance she had been drinking alcohol from 10am and hadn't stopped until she left C&C's
5. the show wonders why Bob Witt refused a full search warrant
6. the show wonders why Ben King, someone who worked for Fernanda Croes (the Prosecutor general opened the door)
7. the show says that lawyer Ben Carlo made an damning statement to DA Janssen implicating Joran in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway (something he later denies when asked to provide more information by Janssen)
8. the police felt it like a vote of no confidence when PG Fernanda Croes started sitting in on police-briefings in the case
9. that PG Croes had wanted to fire Janssen but was told she wasn't allowed on ministerial level (Aruban ministerial level)
10. that the photo-shopped picture was created for 200 dollars/euros on the request of a friend of Joran (according to the show)
11. that Natalee had been in possession of cocain and had used cocain on the trip
12. that Joran once shouted:
"I know what you are thinking, you think Natalee is dead and that me and my father made the body disappear"
and
"I don't know where she is buried"
more to follow after I compose my thoughts