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« Reply #1500 on: September 03, 2009, 07:06:43 PM »

Do we know who is going to be on NG tonite???
No but rumor has it Teresa might be on tomorrow night.
Good, I  hope she does and I hope NG will talk just as mean to her as she did Crystal, she could ask her why Ronald has such a long rap sheet, Why she was standing behind the one person who was known to see HaLeigh last and last but not least,. why did she not have the kids that night since that was what was in the court papers, that she or the GGM would keep the kids while Ronald worked..
   
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« Reply #1501 on: September 03, 2009, 07:07:15 PM »


  I for one needed no confirmation of that fact!
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« Reply #1502 on: September 03, 2009, 07:11:31 PM »

Me either, but its good to know about the truck....lol
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« Reply #1503 on: September 03, 2009, 07:13:00 PM »

Does PDM not have cameras? You would think that they would have them on the property for accidents and theft reasons?

I read that there are no cameras over on the part of PDM where Ronald worked. I believe it was Ger that posted that. Ger is/was the member of AH that went out to PDM and took pictures.
well crap...wonder if the time clock was manual or computer log out?
doesn't even matter in my opinion... if there are no cameras then maybe he could have had a work bud punch him in early on the guise of getting more hours... my husband has people at his work that do that for each other all the time... for no nefarious reason other then to milk the company for more hours since they have been cutting back... if that is the case the person who did it would never admit it and risk losing a job in this economy especially if they don't think ron is guilty of anything to begin with
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« Reply #1504 on: September 03, 2009, 07:13:43 PM »

Do we know who is going to be on NG tonite???
No but rumor has it Teresa might be on tomorrow night.
Good, I  hope she does and I hope NG will talk just as mean to her as she did Crystal, she could ask her why Ronald has such a long rap sheet, Why she was standing behind the one person who was known to see HaLeigh last and last but not least,. why did she not have the kids that night since that was what was in the court papers, that she or the GGM would keep the kids while Ronald worked..


 

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« Reply #1505 on: September 03, 2009, 07:14:57 PM »

Good question, I don't know what he bought, but at least one of the purchases was probably ciggies 

nrcg, here is a couple, but not the exact one that I was looking for. There was another one that I was looking for that was posted about a month ago after that blogger did the article about Ron not going to work at all that day.

Police say they are double checking  timelines and alibis of anyone who may have come in contact with Haleigh, as they believe Haleigh’s kidnapper was no stranger to the family. Police still say this isn’t just a stranger abduction.

Cummings still has a solid alibi, according to his cell phone records.  Cummings cell phone pings came from cell towers by the steel plant, and that on the way home, he stopped by a convenience store to buy a few things.   That would certainly seem to squash the one theory that he went to the trailer to check on Misty, then returned to work at PDM, that night.

http://newsdeskinternational.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/haleigh-cummings-ronalds-alibi/


So far, Cummings has a solid alibi. Not only do co-workers like Zastrow tell police they recall him on property, even taking his dinner break in the cafeteria, but The Bald Truth has learned exclusively that Cummings cell phone pings came from cell towers by the steel plant.

“We had two phone pings that show he never left the plant,” a lead law enforcement investigator on the case tells me in an exclusive interview. “There’s a cell tower that covers the plant and it hits when he gets there…We don’t have pings from any other tower” during his shift. “And we have people who saw him there throughout the night, as secondary backup.”

On the way home, investigators also know he stopped by a convenience store to buy a few things. That would certainly seem to debunk one theory that he went to the trailer to check on Misty, then returned to work that night.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:cXEtOx1EbqcJ:www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/+ronald+cummings+convenient+store&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

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I wonder where Misty's cell phone records are and what they say.

I would guarantee you that LE has them and if they don't shame on them.

Probably some of the evidence that does not add up.

And since we are on the subject.

Supposedly Misty turned her phone off that night due to the argument.

I believe if the phone is off, then there would be no pings, chit!
maybe no argument and a way to get a jump start on why there were no pings?
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« Reply #1506 on: September 03, 2009, 07:27:31 PM »


Now who is it that has the red truck?

Has LE processed it yet?
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« Reply #1507 on: September 03, 2009, 07:29:20 PM »

snip from Pinky:

Crystal is a grown woman. She has her own voice. She is Haleigh's mom and should have stepped up and spoke out. Ron be damned. Afraid of saying the wrong thing? What wrong thing could she say? How would that affect Haleigh being found or not?

What Marie said makes NO sense to me. None whatsoever.


I agree...she is a grown woman! while I think that NG was rough on her, Crystal looked ignorant and as an uncaring mother of a missing child imo...This was her chance to say what she wanted to say and to "act" like she was a part of Haleigh's life... what mother would not know what time her child gets out of school? and if she didn't know before Haleigh went missing, wouldn't you think that she would find out just to try to put her own time line together? She appeared uncaring and nonchalant  and lazy as she always does when talking about her missing child...I feel sorry for her but is she really this unattached to her child as she appears to be? She comes across as cold and non caring imo...And I feel that she really isn't that way, but that is how she comes across to me...jmo...sorry but I agree with NG that Haleigh did not have a chance with the adults who were in charge of her....Ron/Misty/Crystal and the grand mothers....I am a grandma and I know when my grand kids get out of school and some of them live in another state!

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I agree with you

Everytime I see Crystal all I think about is her not taking Haleigh to her DR appointments because she said she was tired.
If she is trying to get her life together now then I wish her good luck.
But neither she nor Ron were there for Haleigh they had other things more important to do.
My hope is Haleigh is found alive and she and Ron get it together and become awesome parents to Haleigh and Ron JR

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« Reply #1508 on: September 03, 2009, 07:29:57 PM »

hi guys...
it's been a while since i've posted but here are my thoughts... totally trying to be devil's advocate here
does ron work mon-fri? just curious

theory 1
misty came back to rons somehow monday early in the day probably to watch jr while ron slept to prep for work .. they wouldn't have had adequate time to argue yet over misty's weekend and even if they did they obviously weren't done... ie "your a whore" "well your this" and "your that" ping pong then kiss and make up takes a while... haleigh gets out of school so they play it cool a little because while i don't think they hold back much in front of her they probably wouldn't have gone full force with the details in front of her especially since playing house is the glue to their relationship to begin with... she might tell a teacher school friend etc. and i'm sure they don't want any more dcf investigations especially for drugs so they might hush a little bit about the details in front of her.. then comes work time for ron he tells her we'll talk later

i totally believe that they argued at 8:30 why wouldn't they have?

my question i guess is the timeline and i have to admit although it pains me to almost sound like i might be defending ron here is it possible that 8:30 is his break which is why she called and he wasn't into talking so she got all "oh so US isn't important enough to talk about now while i'm sitting here taking care of your kids?" some one hangs up and she is all "yeah well if you don't want to talk to me now then you can't talk to me later" and shuts her phone off....
is it possible that her blanket etc was in the van because she conspired with the sis in law to sneak away move out like when ron got arrested for the fight last month?
ok back to my on my way to work theory
is it possible that in ron's silly southern dumb guy lingo what he said to tim was after the phone call i went to work simply meaning he returned to working because his break was done?
like "after we wuz done talkin i got to work"
and tim interpreted that to mean he arrived at work?
is it possible that misty trying to use haleigh as a pawn crawled her way back into the house by offering to babysit in the first place and thats how she got her foot back in the door... like i gotta get the rest of my stuff so i'll just stay and pack while you go to work... is it possible that she filled haleighs head that night with stories of haleigh not going to be able to see her any more and haleigh got sad/mad and ran away (if so what happened did someone just happen to find her otherwise where is she?)
so many possibilities but misty definitely knows what happened to her
i guess my point was even if ron did say he got to work at 9 it might not litterally mean he arrived at work at 9



Yes, Penny I can see that very easily.....the way they all talk makes it hard to truly understanf alot of what they say/mean.
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« Reply #1509 on: September 03, 2009, 07:32:53 PM »


All Misty said was "some black guy", so no name out there yet, just remnants of Susan Smith, but from that article Tim got the info about where the owner lives and I pray to God the get it and process it along with everything they seem to have skimmed over again, ie the phone records........they just now when thru Ron's call by call and they obviously need to do the same with Misty's calls.
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« Reply #1510 on: September 03, 2009, 07:36:03 PM »

snip from Pinky:

Crystal is a grown woman. She has her own voice. She is Haleigh's mom and should have stepped up and spoke out. Ron be damned. Afraid of saying the wrong thing? What wrong thing could she say? How would that affect Haleigh being found or not?

What Marie said makes NO sense to me. None whatsoever.


I agree...she is a grown woman! while I think that NG was rough on her, Crystal looked ignorant and as an uncaring mother of a missing child imo...This was her chance to say what she wanted to say and to "act" like she was a part of Haleigh's life... what mother would not know what time her child gets out of school? and if she didn't know before Haleigh went missing, wouldn't you think that she would find out just to try to put her own time line together? She appeared uncaring and nonchalant  and lazy as she always does when talking about her missing child...I feel sorry for her but is she really this unattached to her child as she appears to be? She comes across as cold and non caring imo...And I feel that she really isn't that way, but that is how she comes across to me...jmo...sorry but I agree with NG that Haleigh did not have a chance with the adults who were in charge of her....Ron/Misty/Crystal and the grand mothers....I am a grandma and I know when my grand kids get out of school and some of them live in another state!

I thought it was strange not to know when your kid gets out of school - especially after all this time with the police working on a timeline - seems like she would have asked now if not before. 
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« Reply #1511 on: September 03, 2009, 07:36:47 PM »

snip from Pinky:

Crystal is a grown woman. She has her own voice. She is Haleigh's mom and should have stepped up and spoke out. Ron be damned. Afraid of saying the wrong thing? What wrong thing could she say? How would that affect Haleigh being found or not?

What Marie said makes NO sense to me. None whatsoever.


I agree...she is a grown woman! while I think that NG was rough on her, Crystal looked ignorant and as an uncaring mother of a missing child imo...This was her chance to say what she wanted to say and to "act" like she was a part of Haleigh's life... what mother would not know what time her child gets out of school? and if she didn't know before Haleigh went missing, wouldn't you think that she would find out just to try to put her own time line together? She appeared uncaring and nonchalant  and lazy as she always does when talking about her missing child...I feel sorry for her but is she really this unattached to her child as she appears to be? She comes across as cold and non caring imo...And I feel that she really isn't that way, but that is how she comes across to me...jmo...sorry but I agree with NG that Haleigh did not have a chance with the adults who were in charge of her....Ron/Misty/Crystal and the grand mothers....I am a grandma and I know when my grand kids get out of school and some of them live in another state!

Hello Monkeys
I agree with you

Everytime I see Crystal all I think about is her not taking Haleigh to her DR appointments because she said she was tired.
If she is trying to get her life together now then I wish her good luck.
But neither she nor Ron were there for Haleigh they had other things more important to do.
My hope is Haleigh is found alive and she and Ron get it together and become awesome parents to Haleigh and Ron JR

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I wish Crystal good luck as well with getting her life together..no one deserves this because of bad choices and laziness or ignorance or what ever.... I hope that both parents get a second chance with their children and that they all have happy lives after all of this, especially Haleigh...both sets of parents need parenting classes imo....and you are right, neither Ron or Crystal put Haleigh first....if they would have, we wouldn't be talking about Haleigh now imo...sad but true...
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« Reply #1512 on: September 03, 2009, 07:37:28 PM »

snip from Pinky:

Crystal is a grown woman. She has her own voice. She is Haleigh's mom and should have stepped up and spoke out. Ron be damned. Afraid of saying the wrong thing? What wrong thing could she say? How would that affect Haleigh being found or not?

What Marie said makes NO sense to me. None whatsoever.


I agree...she is a grown woman! while I think that NG was rough on her, Crystal looked ignorant and as an uncaring mother of a missing child imo...This was her chance to say what she wanted to say and to "act" like she was a part of Haleigh's life... what mother would not know what time her child gets out of school? and if she didn't know before Haleigh went missing, wouldn't you think that she would find out just to try to put her own time line together? She appeared uncaring and nonchalant  and lazy as she always does when talking about her missing child...I feel sorry for her but is she really this unattached to her child as she appears to be? She comes across as cold and non caring imo...And I feel that she really isn't that way, but that is how she comes across to me...jmo...sorry but I agree with NG that Haleigh did not have a chance with the adults who were in charge of her....Ron/Misty/Crystal and the grand mothers....I am a grandma and I know when my grand kids get out of school and some of them live in another state!
I do not agree with this statement, really, how would you describe ingnorant, Crystal has a certain personallity just like you or I do and this is just the way she is, and I dont think for one minute she was "ignorant looking"....she was much better spoken then Misty or Ronald put together...IMO

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« Reply #1513 on: September 03, 2009, 07:37:44 PM »


A few minutes ago on HLN Mike Brooks reported that TN said that Ronald stands behind his wife and so does she.

With the revelation of TN's voice mail to TM, I wonder if LE has informed the Ron, TN, and GS to keep Misty (the enemy) as close as possible for fear of her and her family making a run for the border or to Belize even.
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« Reply #1514 on: September 03, 2009, 07:38:48 PM »

hi guys...
it's been a while since i've posted but here are my thoughts... totally trying to be devil's advocate here
does ron work mon-fri? just curious

theory 1
misty came back to rons somehow monday early in the day probably to watch jr while ron slept to prep for work .. they wouldn't have had adequate time to argue yet over misty's weekend and even if they did they obviously weren't done... ie "your a whore" "well your this" and "your that" ping pong then kiss and make up takes a while... haleigh gets out of school so they play it cool a little because while i don't think they hold back much in front of her they probably wouldn't have gone full force with the details in front of her especially since playing house is the glue to their relationship to begin with... she might tell a teacher school friend etc. and i'm sure they don't want any more dcf investigations especially for drugs so they might hush a little bit about the details in front of her.. then comes work time for ron he tells her we'll talk later

i totally believe that they argued at 8:30 why wouldn't they have?

my question i guess is the timeline and i have to admit although it pains me to almost sound like i might be defending ron here is it possible that 8:30 is his break which is why she called and he wasn't into talking so she got all "oh so US isn't important enough to talk about now while i'm sitting here taking care of your kids?" some one hangs up and she is all "yeah well if you don't want to talk to me now then you can't talk to me later" and shuts her phone off....
is it possible that her blanket etc was in the van because she conspired with the sis in law to sneak away move out like when ron got arrested for the fight last month?
ok back to my on my way to work theory
is it possible that in ron's silly southern dumb guy lingo what he said to tim was after the phone call i went to work simply meaning he returned to working because his break was done?
like "after we wuz done talkin i got to work"
and tim interpreted that to mean he arrived at work?
is it possible that misty trying to use haleigh as a pawn crawled her way back into the house by offering to babysit in the first place and thats how she got her foot back in the door... like i gotta get the rest of my stuff so i'll just stay and pack while you go to work... is it possible that she filled haleighs head that night with stories of haleigh not going to be able to see her any more and haleigh got sad/mad and ran away (if so what happened did someone just happen to find her otherwise where is she?)
so many possibilities but misty definitely knows what happened to her
i guess my point was even if ron did say he got to work at 9 it might not litterally mean he arrived at work at 9



Yes, Penny I can see that very easily.....the way they all talk makes it hard to truly understanf alot of what they say/mean.

ditto....I can see this as well....good thoughts there Penny
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« Reply #1515 on: September 03, 2009, 07:39:01 PM »


All Misty said was "some black guy", so no name out there yet, just remnants of Susan Smith, but from that article Tim got the info about where the owner lives and I pray to God the get it and process it along with everything they seem to have skimmed over again, ie the phone records........they just now when thru Ron's call by call and they obviously need to do the same with Misty's calls.
don't forget that sykes has  a red truck too....you can see it in the picture of them getting ready for the baloon release...
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« Reply #1516 on: September 03, 2009, 07:39:41 PM »

snip from Pinky:

Crystal is a grown woman. She has her own voice. She is Haleigh's mom and should have stepped up and spoke out. Ron be damned. Afraid of saying the wrong thing? What wrong thing could she say? How would that affect Haleigh being found or not?

What Marie said makes NO sense to me. None whatsoever.


I agree...she is a grown woman! while I think that NG was rough on her, Crystal looked ignorant and as an uncaring mother of a missing child imo...This was her chance to say what she wanted to say and to "act" like she was a part of Haleigh's life... what mother would not know what time her child gets out of school? and if she didn't know before Haleigh went missing, wouldn't you think that she would find out just to try to put her own time line together? She appeared uncaring and nonchalant  and lazy as she always does when talking about her missing child...I feel sorry for her but is she really this unattached to her child as she appears to be? She comes across as cold and non caring imo...And I feel that she really isn't that way, but that is how she comes across to me...jmo...sorry but I agree with NG that Haleigh did not have a chance with the adults who were in charge of her....Ron/Misty/Crystal and the grand mothers....I am a grandma and I know when my grand kids get out of school and some of them live in another state!
I do not agree with this statement, really, how would you describe ingnorant, Crystal has a certain personallity just like you or I do and this is just the way she is, and I dont think for one minute she was "ignorant looking"....she was much better spoken then Misty or Ronald put together...IMO

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« Reply #1517 on: September 03, 2009, 07:41:50 PM »


A few minutes ago on HLN Mike Brooks reported that TN said that Ronald stands behind his wife and so does she.

With the revelation of TN's voice mail to TM, I wonder if LE has informed the Ron, TN, and GS to keep Misty (the enemy) as close as possible for fear of her and her family making a run for the border or to Belize even.

could be.....
I really am leaving for dinner with hubs in a few minutes so will you keep track of NG for me? thanks..
I got ready sooner than I thought so I am just chillin with a glass of wine...
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« Reply #1518 on: September 03, 2009, 07:45:30 PM »


All Misty said was "some black guy", so no name out there yet, just remnants of Susan Smith, but from that article Tim got the info about where the owner lives and I pray to God the get it and process it along with everything they seem to have skimmed over again, ie the phone records........they just now when thru Ron's call by call and they obviously need to do the same with Misty's calls.
don't forget that sykes has  a red truck too....you can see it in the picture of them getting ready for the baloon release...

I thought I read where that was actually the neighbors (although it IS parked in her yard), but I did hear that TN had a red truck.............can't remember where though Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #1519 on: September 03, 2009, 07:51:55 PM »


All Misty said was "some black guy", so no name out there yet, just remnants of Susan Smith, but from that article Tim got the info about where the owner lives and I pray to God the get it and process it along with everything they seem to have skimmed over again, ie the phone records........they just now when thru Ron's call by call and they obviously need to do the same with Misty's calls.
don't forget that sykes has  a red truck too....you can see it in the picture of them getting ready for the baloon release...

I thought I read where that was actually the neighbors (although it IS parked in her yard), but I did hear that TN had a red truck.............can't remember where though Monkey Devil!

TN was driving a red truck when we saw the video of her and Cobra..I think she met him at a gas station to discuss a search she wanted him to do at that shack...and she left because she saw a snake....anyway she was driving a red truck and it was a new model.
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