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« on: August 09, 2009, 09:26:18 AM »

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President Barack Obama will meet with Canadian President Stephen Harper and Mexican President Felipe Calderon this weekend in Guadalajara, Mexico, for a North American Leaders Summit. The host of issues they are expected to discuss this weekend includes immigration, drug violence, trucking, and the Canadian objections to the “buy American” provisions adopted by Congress earlier this year in the “stimulus” legislation.

But the push for a North American Union (NAU) that establishment politicians and their lobbyists in elite private foundations are seeking now appears to be at the bottom of the list of issues.

But that hasn't stopped some of the more dogged proponents of eroding national sovereignty from pushing their agenda. “Drop the Security and Prosperity Partnership. Let it die in Guadalajara and commit to renegotiating NAFTA because we don’t see it as being as beneficial to the majority of North Americans as it has been for large corporations,” Robert Pastor told the Edmondton Sun on August 7. Pastor is among the most dogged proponents of a “North American Community,” having written in favor of the concept for both the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission in recent years. He's also co-director of the Center for North American Studies and a professor of international relations at American University in Washington.


I seem to recall that American autoworkers make $120,000 or more per year, with their benefits included (cost of gold standard healthcare).

Autoworkers in Mexico make like $6 an hour with no benefits, no unemployment, nothing...

NAFTA seems to benefit only large corporations. 

Nothing in it for the people on ANY Main Street.  Not Main Street Mexico, U.S. or Canada. 

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With drug lords shooting people in broad daylight on Mexican streets, and the Mexican President Calderon complaining that the promised U.S. $1.4 billion in aid is slow in coming, it's hardly surprising that Washington insiders are putting a political merger of the continent on the back burner, at least for the time being. The American people would clearly never go along with a deal to merge the fates of the three nations, particularly under current political circumstances.

Is this the future of Main Street?  Drug related shooting on Main Street during broad daylight?

Our government is more concerned with senior citizen terrorists and MOBS?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/north-america-mainmenu-36/1620
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2009, 09:41:13 AM »

I don't know much about this site, but they do have some interesting opinions -

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The establishment is scared to death that Americans may see beyond the scope of their partisan divisions and come together to stand up in unison against the offshore bankers and corporations that run the White House, which is why the constant politicized drumbeat that the protesters are nothing more than astroturf Republicans is constantly echoed.

In reality, for anyone who has closely tracked the evolution of this movement, the demonstrations owe their origins in an increasing sense of outrage about the multi-trillion dollar looting being carried out by the Federal Reserve in the form of the bailout, the nightmare cap and trade bill, the totalitarian health care proposals, and the general handover of American sovereignty to globalist interests through crony infrastructure sellouts and the emerging North American Union.

Although admittedly at an embryonic stage, the scenes we see unfolding across the country could be the spark that ignites the second American revolution. At the very least, the passionate, outraged and bold reaction to the Obama administration’s big government agenda is definitely a sign of things to come, and as each new totalitarian program is rolled out the resistance will only increase and get louder as momentum builds and people across the nation get in the face of the system and yell, “don’t tread on me.”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-start-of-the-second-american-revolution.html

It all seems to be about the rich getting richer, and the poor getting stuck on a perpetual cycle of povery, with no opportunity to become middle class or wealthy.  Wealthy folks and politicians become the ruling class...

Is the U.S. is on the road to 'Banana Republic' status?

The U.S. on the road to REALLY big regional and global government, a future run by corporation looking for PROFIT only?  Have to kill people because they are no longer useful?  Retire the assets?  No longer spend money on the old or others deemed not worthy?

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2009, 10:03:19 AM »

What is the goal of all this spending and debt in the U.S.?  Destroy the currency?  Devalue the currency?  Make the U.S. dollar on par with the Peso?  Make the Peso and Zimbabwe currency more valuable? 
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 12:47:36 PM »

A view from Canada -

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In the past, the summits have drawn loud criticism and large protest gatherings. Stuart Trew, a trade and labour activist travelling to Mexico representing the Council of Canadians, holds some hope for a new direction and more transparency now that Obama is at the table.

But so far, he has seen few concrete signs the voices of average citizens won't continue to be drowned out by those of big business. Since 2005, the "closed-door" leaders' meetings have yielded harmonized regulations that have weakened Canada's standards for civil liberties, labour and environmental protection. 

"Drop the Security and Prosperity Partnership. Let it die in Guadalajara and commit to renegotiating NAFTA because we don't see it as being as beneficial to the majority of North Americans as it has been for large corporations," he said.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/world/2009/08/08/10399401-sun.html
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 12:55:40 PM »

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That said, the U.S. has long had a visa requirement for Mexican visitors.

A third controversial issue that has surfaced lately in relation to the continent is whether the U.S. should be treating its northern and southern borders the same, neglecting the fact that dealings with Canada are far less problematic than with Mexico.

A report in July by the Washington, D.C.-based Brookings Institution criticized Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano’s preferred policy of standardizing policies for the two borders.


Beyond these thornier topics, Obama, Stephen Harper and Felipe Calderon are expected to chat about the economy, Buy America legislative provisions, national security and crime, environment and climate change, energy security, measures to deal with the H1N1 virus and the recent coup in Honduras.

The leaders’ summits last only a couple of days and have their greatest value in enabling the three nationally preoccupied leaders to become more comfortable with one another and their respective priority issues.

Obama, since becoming president in January, has met once with Harper and several times with Calderon.

http://www.kelowna.com/2009/08/07/strained-friendship-tests-continents-three-amigos-obamahas-already-hinted-he-will-withdraw-support-for-security-andprosperity-partnership/

Regardless of where they come from, how many illegal aliens have a valid visa?

What did Obama and Calderon talk about?  Did they make any agreements?  American will pay for everyone in Mexico's healthcare?  Drive by, phone, or internet enrollment?  We'll get the stimulus going as soon as we legalize all those here illegally?  Establish free healthcare for all legals and illegals?  No need to apply American's will just share there prosperity with everyone, excepting the aged and disabled.
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MEXICO CITY —  The Absolut vodka company apologized Saturday for an ad campaign depicting the southwestern U.S. as part of Mexico amid angry calls for a boycott by U.S. consumers.

The campaign, which promotes ideal scenarios under the slogan "In an Absolut World," showed a 1830s-era map when Mexico included California, Texas and other southwestern states. Mexico still resents losing that territory in the 1848 Mexican-American War and the fight for Texas independence.

But the ads, which ran only in Mexico and have since ended, came as the United States builds up its border security amid an emotional debate over illegal immigration from their southern neighbor.

More than a dozen calls to boycott Absolut were posted on michellemalkin.com, a Web site operated by conservative columnist Michelle Malkin. The ads sparked heated comment on a half-dozen other Internet sites and blogs.

"In no way was it meant to offend or disparage, nor does it advocate an altering of borders, nor does it lend support to any anti-American sentiment, nor does it reflect immigration issues," Absolut said in a statement left on its consumer inquiry phone line.

Some fringe U.S. groups also claim the land is rightfully part of Mexico, while extreme immigration foes argue parts of the U.S. already are being overtaken by Mexico.

"In an Absolut world, a company that produces vodka fires its entire marketing department in a desperate attempt to win back enraged North American customers after a disastrous ad campaign backfires," a person using the moniker "SalsaNChips" wrote on Malkin's Web site.

A plan for comprehensive immigration reform designed to deal with an estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States — the vast majority from Mexico — collapsed last summer under the emotional weight of the debate.

Absolut said the ad was designed for a Mexican audience and intended to recall "a time which the population of Mexico might feel was more ideal."

"As a global company, we recognize that people in different parts of the world may lend different perspectives or interpret our ads in a different way than was intended in that market, and for that we apologize."

Vin & Sprit, Absolut's Sweden-based parent company, will be acquired by French spirit maker Pernod Ricard SA under a deal reached last week.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346964,00.html

This is no mistake and it is no joke. This add is all by design.. A call to battle.
To educate a generation of Mexicans. I have had Mexicans tell me they are here to take back there land. Wink They just plan to populate.
Powerful mexicans are trying to push all mexicans to infiltrate and take back land by just populating it and getting people elected to public office within this area of the u.s.. Making new laws in favor of mexican people.
It is a very simple plan, it is sponsored by U know Who out of Venezuela..
Obrador "who lost in Mexicos presidential elections"  is said to be starting a second government within Mexico, starting a false civil war in which many mexican citizens will run to the united states.. infuxing us ... and they populate..Impliment the plaN... Wink
We are putting up a fence.. well part of a fence..
The drug war is part of a civil unrest plan, the predessesor to a out and out civil war in Mexico over Drug Lords.. Bush and Calderon are aware of the plan, Calderon is doing what he can to get rid of corrupt police and military..
You should be aware of the plan.. So there you go.. Wink
JMHO


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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 01:52:42 PM »

A Canadian View -

As a result of NAFTA, North America is already a well-integrated energy market with Canada and Mexico among the U.S.’s top energy trading partners.  Through the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), the North American Energy Working Group has further integrated a continental energy strategy.  Other initiatives are also pushing towards a single North American energy policy.

The North American Competitiveness Council (NACC)...The NACC released a Statement to the Leaders in Advance of the 2009 North American Leaders’ Summit set to take place in Guadalajara, Mexico on August 9-10 of this year.  In conclusion, it says “Trilateral cooperation on borders, regulations, energy, and other important issues is essential to the prosperity and security of North America.  We and the business communities we represent trust that our advice to date has assisted Leaders in choosing priorities and driving progress.  Going forward, the NACC stands ready to offer our ideas and expertise, and we hope the three governments will continue with the NACC.”...The NACC has promoted energy privatization in Mexico and pushed Alberta’s oilsands development with the goal of deregulating energy markets and fast-tracking North American energy integration.

A North American energy strategy is being implemented, one that clearly favors the U.S. and there are fears that Canada and Mexico could become nothing more than resource colonies.  Further North American integration is also being achieved through environmental concerns and commitments.  Greater continental cooperation on energy matters including clean energy, a shared approach to climate change, along with a cap-and-trade system are moving forward.  Unfortunately, many solutions being offered to combat environmental issues are in the form of more taxes and more governmental control over our lives.

http://www.borderfirereport.net/dana-gabriel/towards-a-north-american-energy-corridor.php

It seems like Obama wants to kill off all current energy production in the U.S.  Say good by to local control of energy.  Say good-bye to affordable energy to heat, cool, and light your home.  Say good-bye to affordable energy for business...

Why isn't the voice of Main Street heard in Washington?  Why are those living on Main Street called 'MOBs'? 

Why does it seem that big government seems to work for big business, large global companies, and foreigner?  Why doesn't big government work for those living on Main Street?
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MEXICO CITY —  The Absolut vodka company apologized Saturday for an ad campaign depicting the southwestern U.S. as part of Mexico amid angry calls for a boycott by U.S. consumers.

The campaign, which promotes ideal scenarios under the slogan "In an Absolut World," showed a 1830s-era map when Mexico included California, Texas and other southwestern states. Mexico still resents losing that territory in the 1848 Mexican-American War and the fight for Texas independence.

But the ads, which ran only in Mexico and have since ended, came as the United States builds up its border security amid an emotional debate over illegal immigration from their southern neighbor.

More than a dozen calls to boycott Absolut were posted on michellemalkin.com, a Web site operated by conservative columnist Michelle Malkin. The ads sparked heated comment on a half-dozen other Internet sites and blogs.

"In no way was it meant to offend or disparage, nor does it advocate an altering of borders, nor does it lend support to any anti-American sentiment, nor does it reflect immigration issues," Absolut said in a statement left on its consumer inquiry phone line.

Some fringe U.S. groups also claim the land is rightfully part of Mexico, while extreme immigration foes argue parts of the U.S. already are being overtaken by Mexico.

"In an Absolut world, a company that produces vodka fires its entire marketing department in a desperate attempt to win back enraged North American customers after a disastrous ad campaign backfires," a person using the moniker "SalsaNChips" wrote on Malkin's Web site.

A plan for comprehensive immigration reform designed to deal with an estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States — the vast majority from Mexico — collapsed last summer under the emotional weight of the debate.

Absolut said the ad was designed for a Mexican audience and intended to recall "a time which the population of Mexico might feel was more ideal."

"As a global company, we recognize that people in different parts of the world may lend different perspectives or interpret our ads in a different way than was intended in that market, and for that we apologize."

Vin & Sprit, Absolut's Sweden-based parent company, will be acquired by French spirit maker Pernod Ricard SA under a deal reached last week.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346964,00.html

This is no mistake and it is no joke. This add is all by design.. A call to battle.
To educate a generation of Mexicans. I have had Mexicans tell me they are here to take back there land. Wink They just plan to populate.
Powerful mexicans are trying to push all mexicans to infiltrate and take back land by just populating it and getting people elected to public office within this area of the u.s.. Making new laws in favor of mexican people.
It is a very simple plan, it is sponsored by U know Who out of Venezuela..
Obrador "who lost in Mexicos presidential elections"  is said to be starting a second government within Mexico, starting a false civil war in which many mexican citizens will run to the united states.. infuxing us ... and they populate..Impliment the plaN... Wink
We are putting up a fence.. well part of a fence..
The drug war is part of a civil unrest plan, the predessesor to a out and out civil war in Mexico over Drug Lords.. Bush and Calderon are aware of the plan, Calderon is doing what he can to get rid of corrupt police and military..
You should be aware of the plan.. So there you go.. Wink
JMHO


http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8485.0

Kinda like 'buy American' provisions?  No need to buy anything, the Obama administration will just send the money in the form of grants and battery stimulus. 

No jobs for American workers and American companies that would supply jobs and prosperity.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 02:01:57 PM »

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Mr. Obama's perverse policies make it all the more essential that Canadian companies look outside the United States for new markets, especially in China and India.

China has recently come under attack at the WTO for its own protectionist policies, specifically restricting the export of raw materials. In June, U. S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk declared: "We are deeply troubled that this appears to be a conscious policy to create unfair advantages for Chinese industries....Now, more than ever, we must fight against this kind of domestic favouritism."

One wonders how he kept a straight face.

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=28c37022-e117-4bea-bd23-e3ed535ef34a&p=2

Imagine...China has protectionist policies?  Isn't this the nation that said there is no such thing as free or fair trade?

Does protectionism benefit workers or global business? 

Who in the U.S. is looking out for Main Street?

It seems like free/fair trade only benefits large global business.  Why doesn't free/fair trade benefit the little people on Main Street?

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 02:08:26 PM »

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At least NAFTA was debated in Congress, SPP is a strictly closed door meeting between the Administrations of the US, Canada, Mexico and the North American Competitiveness Council.

No citizen input, no governmental oversight, just the “Three Amigos” and big business interests.

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“Harmonization”, a key component of SPP, will lower the standards that protect the environment, the safety of our food and our health.

Other than increasing the profits of corporations, the hopped up, secretly negotiated SPP offers no benefit to the average American. Either in security or prosperity. We have seen the emergence of the Swine flu, numerous food safety violations and the never ending loss of jobs.

Mexico has seen its economy collapse, a cycle of increasing violence, militarization and drug trafficking. Small farmers have been pushed off their land and into abject poverty. Now big business and the Three Amigos offer them more of the same only faster? So who is benefiting? Canada?

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A partnership should be built on more than bureaucrats and fat cat businessmen, it needs citizen involvement and approval.

Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur of Ohio perhaps stated it best, “We need to change the nature of our trade agreements. I hope this new president will lead us in that direction-- toward more democracy and less exploitation. We'll see.”

read more here - http://www.counterpunch.org/goodman08052009.html

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