Lively Case Discussion #549 11/27 - 11/28/2006

[Carnut]

Red just got off the phone with Beth - Beth and Peter de Vries will be on Greta tonight!!  10pm Eastern

Think any of the crow feathers will be showing around the edges of Greta's mouth?

[robots]

The earring is gone..........

In the video which is a better quality, they are there.

Thanks..I was scared...does that sound like robots..

thats was good ...hehehehehehehehe

but you need to go like this

skeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeered  

[carpe noctem]

I was going back reading the case documents over the past few days...

I dug up the following Deepak ALE Statement of 6/29/2005

I would like to hear other people's opinions on it.

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Deepak interview with police
6/29/2005

On your question what Joran's mom meant by telling us that we should stay away from the "Marriot Hotel", I can say the following. With this she meant that the police was monitoring that area and that we were already in trouble. So avoid the area and that it was best to head home.

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I find it very strange that Anita singled out the Marriott as a  'HOT ZONE'
and for the boys to stay away due of cop presence. Had Joran already come up with LIE CHANGE #2 by this time?

Something about it doesn't sound riight to me.

Anita is already saying the boys are in trouble.  TROUBLE FOR
WHAT? Leaving Natalee at the beach. That is certainly no crime
if it hapened just the way DILBERT said it did.

How can she reconcile that? The Sporter is innocent
and his poop smells like friggin rose petals... but stay away
from the Marriott because you're in trouble?

SHE'S ALREADY SAYING they are in trouble.

Had the DROP AT MARRIOTT  been introduced at this time?

I don't think it was... I'll have to dig around in the file
archives to go over it again. I'd love to hear anbody's
thoughts on this. -J4N-

[Kat_Gram]

Thanks Kat_Gram,

I was writing the post as you were posting.

So the earring is there in the video but not the still picture? Am confused.

It is there, watch the video. There are two shopped pic in the video right at the beginning. The stills just aren't clear, that's all.

[robots]

Red just got off the phone with Beth - Beth and Peter de Vries will be on Greta tonight!!  10pm Eastern

Think any of the crow feathers will be showing around the edges of Greta's mouth?

i hate the killers


greta just makes me want to puke with the

"im inclined to beleive him BULL CRAP"
 

[Carnut]

I was going back reading the case documents over the past few days...

I dug up the following Deepak ALE Statement of 6/29/2005

I would like to hear other people's opinions on it.

------------------


Deepak interview with police
6/29/2005

On your question what Joran's mom meant by telling us that we should stay away from the "Marriot Hotel", I can say the following. With this she meant that the police was monitoring that area and that we were already in trouble. So avoid the area and that it was best to head home.

---------------

I find it very strange that Anita singled out the Marriott as a  'HOT ZONE'
and for the boys to stay away due of cop presence. Had Joran already come up with LIE CHANGE #2 by this time?

Something about it doesn't sound riight to me.

Anita is already saying the boys are in trouble.  TROUBLE FOR
WHAT? Leaving Natalee at the beach. That is certainly no crime
if it hapened just the way DILBERT said it did.

How can she reconcile that? The Sporter is innocent
and his poop smells like friggin rose petals... but stay away
from the Marriott because you're in trouble?

SHE'S ALREADY SAYING they are in trouble.

Had the DROP AT MARRIOTT  been introduced at this time?

I don't think it was... I'll have to dig around in the file
archives to go over it again. I'd love to hear anbody's
thoughts on this. -J4N-

Yeah, the drop of the body in the Marriott's freezer.

[San]

Red just got off the phone with Beth - Beth and Peter de Vries will be on Greta tonight!!  10pm Eastern

Thanks klaas.

[Kat_Gram]

Red just got off the phone with Beth - Beth and Peter de Vries will be on Greta tonight!!  10pm Eastern

Think any of the crow feathers will be showing around the edges of Greta's mouth?

I will break my rule. Although I don't get FOX, so let me know, please. Pretty please guys..

The things that were taken from Joran's place.. they could be " valuable "
in a sense. Wonder if anyone is trying to sell them back to Joran ?

[Ono]

Red just got off the phone with Beth - Beth and Peter de Vries will be on Greta tonight!!  10pm Eastern

   Hot damn !  Thanks for the heads up!

[memphis]

Red just got off the phone with Beth - Beth and Peter de Vries will be on Greta tonight!!  10pm Eastern

This is really wonderful news.
Can ya'll feel the momentum building?    I think things are gonna happen.

[Buckeye]

Red just got off the phone with Beth - Beth and Peter de Vries will be on Greta tonight!!  10pm Eastern

     

[IndyDan]

I hope they address the cocaine part.
The cocaine reference in the evidence file is DumPigs last desparate attempt to bring closer to the case. He got dumped on after the Dutch destroyed and covered-up all the obvious evidence, then Dumpig was the stooge put in charge to 'make the case'.  I'm sure the Jacobs, VanDerSludges (both) got a giggle watching poor DumPig trying to bring closer to the case.  His last desparate stab was to bring closure in what is so common in Aruba -- the drug connection.
The coke reference is nothing more than more planted evidence by the ALE.
Natalee was an honor roll student with a full ride scholarship to a major University majoring in Medicine. Active in church, school and community projects.
No history of drugs, yet they'd have us believe that on the few short days the perfect child was on Aruba, she was openly snorting coke lines and offering her friends drugs.
Please, this is right out of the DumPig file trying to blame the victim knowing he can't over trump the Dutch that hold sway on the island.

[robots]

thanks RED

thanks Klass            

[memphis]

he would tell his NON INFORMED friends he knew natalee from years ago

they were old pals

he would never hurt her


"see, i even have pictures when i visited her house a couple years ago"


stupid friends would believe the DELICIOUS JORAN  

You know this could very well be what he was doing.  They didn't know much about the case in the Netherlands.

I wonder why he was in such a hurry.

The first picture has to be used. And the guy in the second, third, fourth, or fifth has to be placed in the first picture ( You can choose which one is the easiest to use) The best would be if this one would be pasted onto that girl ( so that that girl who`s standing on the left in the first pic is not seen anymore, if that isn`t really possible, than you have to put this guy just over her)
If that looks believable, and they buy it,than i will make sure you`ll get €200,-- from Kees.
If it isn`t possible, than we can let this guy make a picture that he fits in excactly,
but we don`t have a lot of time.

[robots]

i dont care if natalee was doing drugs or not doing drugs

it doesnt change a thing to me


not a SINGLE THING changes


just another LOAD from the people from EVIL ISLAND  

[Kat_Gram]

Interesting that Anita would know of the monitoring isn't it.
.
The little brother was having a play date at the Marriott with the Zeola kid. Paulus had said that he left the casino at the Holiday Inn becasue the youngest kid was being dropped off in Montanja. So, he makes the Zeola's drive all the way to Montanja when he could have gone to the Marriott himself and picked the kid up on the way home ?
.
Joran was home because there was some porn playing. Some alibi.

[robots]

I wonder why he was in such a hurry.

The first picture has to be used. And the guy in the second, third, fourth, or fifth has to be placed in the first picture ( You can choose which one is the easiest to use) The best would be if this one would be pasted onto that girl ( so that that girl who`s standing on the left in the first pic is not seen anymore, if that isn`t really possible, than you have to put this guy just over her)
If that looks believable, and they buy it,than i will make sure you`ll get €200,-- from Kees.
If it isn`t possible, than we can let this guy make a picture that he fits in excactly,
but we don`t have a lot of time.



hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[klaasend]

Posted by Crioyo on the front page of SM:

Saw the whole show sunday…Pretty good..even if it was just a summary of what we already knew. It’s the first decent attempt to put it all on mainstream tv. The last time opsporing verzocht did it, they made it look as if joran & co were just witnesses rather than suspects. This time around it was good.

I didn’t know though that Joran had paid someone 200euro’s to photoshop pics of him and natalee to pretend as if they already knew eachother. They showed the email and the account hakers_rule@

and when peter asked paulus on the phone, paulus also said the ‘’we have more information but will bring it out when the time is right, that is when she is found or in such a case'’ speech. same thing joran said on 60 minutes was it?

etc etc…pretty good show and there seems to be a part 2 this week according to me…

will keep an eye out.

[Ono]

I was going back reading the case documents over the past few days...

I dug up the following Deepak ALE Statement of 6/29/2005

I would like to hear other people's opinions on it.

------------------


Deepak interview with police
6/29/2005

On your question what Joran's mom meant by telling us that we should stay away from the "Marriot Hotel", I can say the following. With this she meant that the police was monitoring that area and that we were already in trouble. So avoid the area and that it was best to head home.

---------------

I find it very strange that Anita singled out the Marriott as a  'HOT ZONE'
and for the boys to stay away due of cop presence. Had Joran already come up with LIE CHANGE #2 by this time?

Something about it doesn't sound riight to me.

Anita is already saying the boys are in trouble.  TROUBLE FOR
WHAT? Leaving Natalee at the beach. That is certainly no crime
if it hapened just the way DILBERT said it did.

How can she reconcile that? The Sporter is innocent
and his poop smells like friggin rose petals... but stay away
from the Marriott because you're in trouble?

SHE'S ALREADY SAYING they are in trouble.

Had the DROP AT MARRIOTT  been introduced at this time?

I don't think it was... I'll have to dig around in the file
archives to go over it again. I'd love to hear anbody's
thoughts on this. -J4N-

Carpe: My honest take when I first read that awhile back, was that hadn't Joran already gotten in trouble with (at that time) the Gen. Mgr's. daughter? Most likely, his reputation was big time trouble by then and he had been warned to stay off property and I bet his parents had been warned also to keep Joran off property. That girl had been a fellow student at the International School.

[robots]

Interesting that Anita would know of the monitoring isn't it.
.
The little brother was having a play date at the Marriott with the Zeola kid. Paulus had said that he left the casino at the Holiday Inn becasue the youngest kid was being dropped off in Montanja. So, he makes the Zeola's drive all the way to Montanja when he could have gone to the Marriott himself and picked the kid up on the way home ?
.
Joran was home because there was some porn playing. Some alibi.

YES, the porn playing is a GREAT ALIBI


NOT
NOT
NOT
NOT
NOT

see, i think EVIL ISLAND also known as TOILET  thinks people are STUPID