Lively Case Discussion #549 11/27 - 11/28/2006

[crazybabyborg]

Greta repeat on in 20 minutes if anoyne misssed it on FOX
the interview with Peter Devries.. and Beth!!

I did, and thx!  

[bleachedblack]

This is the highlight of the one I am talking about. She posted it on 8/3 '05.

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If a person who takes someone has a home he takes that person to be isolated for his intentions. In all the cases of abductions of persons at nightclubs and at open places there is a foreplay of games as bait.
It also makes sense as sex is not an off- on switch with two in tow, it is a game set out before hand with more than one.
It is also the case that the beach was a later alibi as was the lighthouse one, as distancing from the home of Joran who had unlimited access. No kids shits on the beach if he has a bog at home. To graphic, then listen to kids of that age in school. No man or boy of over 16 would think of peeing in a gutter or laying in a tourism place as an alternative to his own drink parlour and bog. Yes, the words come as easily as other predators I have listened too, and what they do is tell a good story in their mind and regurtitate it. It takes a snake to catch a snake. The snake is not Joran, yes he has in my opinion lashed out at Natalee for some reason, but the duality of this is the repetition and stage management so that has to be a more older adult. He is procuring for someone else and simple bragging because he joins in on the action as a forensic cue from his own photos on the web.

This is not the same one that Hammer posted.
Very interesting. Is she saying that Joran procured Natalee for someone else?

Yes in that post, along with the fact that any boy/man over the age of 16(?)
that has a place of his own (Joran 's apartment) to take a girl, so that they can be alone --in this case for jorans devious persuits-would certainly go there, not to a beach or other public place where they could possibly be discovered......only she worded like this--" No man or boy of over 16 would think of peeing in a gutter or laying in a tourism place as an alternative to his own drink parlour and bog. "

[klaasend]

hi there...

Does Posner own the MARRIOTT at Palm Beach?

Does anyone know?

No, Posner does not own the Marriott or any hotel.  He owns the Excelsior Casino in the Holiday Inn.

Klaas,
Am behind reading to catch up but doesn't Posner own the fairly new Bickell Bay Resort?  I thought that he built that and owned it.  Apparently it is not as nice as some of the other resorts as is only two star.

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oops, I forgot about Brickell Bay..yes, I think he does.

[Tylergal]

I noticed that nothing was said about Jan Van der Straaten in all this.  I wonder where he plays into all of this madness?

  Could Shango have been wrong?    

Say it ain't so!!  

If you remember Shango never said it was van der Straaten.

I never read that either, but I did read the part where he indicated that "Drax scored..." and I thought that was in reference to JVDStraaten, but I have always, always, always, always have felt that Rudy Croes is Dirty Hand, but Shango mentioned dirty hand and Dirtyhand, if I make no mistake.

[memphis]

cubbeegirl wrote;

Agreed... If memory serves me some were not so kind towards DutchLady's posts....

I know I am not sure why. She did maybe make a few posts that were alittle far out, but i thought she was great, but more than that , I felt she had a unique insight into the human psyche.

bb, did you save all of her posts? Does anyone know DL's background? Psychology?

Nite None! Sleep well.

[justinsmama]

Of course something bad went down at the Sloot compound, and not in Joran's quarters. Why else keep the search out of the main house?

[Lala'sMom]

Gotta say one thing for Greta, she did bring on DeVries and Beth right after the Dutch show and pretty much asked alot of the right questions.

Obviously her heart wasn't in it, but she did do the show, it was the right thing to do.

And now there's a lot of Dutch folks beginning to see the light.

Yes, and I also think that is about all we will hear from Greta about this.  She is not going to take this on again unless she can win this time.  As far as I can see she is still aligned with the wrong people.  Certainly not enthusiastic at all tonight. Beth was very distant to her also...good for her.  Fool me once...but not again.

[bleachedblack]

cubbeegirl wrote;

Agreed... If memory serves me some were not so kind towards DutchLady's posts....

I know I am not sure why. She did maybe make a few posts that were alittle far out, but i thought she was great, but more than that , I felt she had a unique insight into the human psyche.

bb, did you save all of her posts? Does anyone know DL's background? Psychology?

Nite None! Sleep well.

No I did not save them all. One time she did post a really interesting resume, I'll see if I can find it.....

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Good evening monkeys! Just a late night drive by before I pour myself into bed...Is Greta interviewing P DeVries? Do I need to tape her show? I had taken her off my tivo...

Hope all is well with everyone!!    

 Hey Mishy~!!! It wil be on again in approx 7 minutes on FOX.
 If you miss it.. SAN  and Jackie  transrribed it somewhere on this thread. Its at the VERY beginning of Gretas show.  
  Greta seemed.. coldhearted  IMO.. but Devries was good and Beth was awesome!!!!!!!!

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Greta repeat on in 20 minutes if anoyne misssed it on FOX
the interview with Peter Devries.. and Beth!!

I did, and thx!  

  HI CBB~!!  Great to see you!!  

[cubbeegirl]

Good evening monkeys! Just a late night drive by before I pour myself into bed...Is Greta interviewing P DeVries? Do I need to tape her show? I had taken her off my tivo...

Hope all is well with everyone!!    

 Hey Mishy~!!! It wil be on again in approx 7 minutes on FOX.
 If you miss it.. SAN  and Jackie  transrribed it somewhere on this thread. Its at the VERY beginning of Gretas show.  
  Greta seemed.. coldhearted  IMO.. but Devries was good and Beth was awesome!!!!!!!!

I think Greta needs to get some emails regarding her demeanor tonight...

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Of course something bad went down at the Sloot compound, and not in Joran's quarters. Why else keep the search out of the main house?

 

 I agree 10000000% Justins! and IMO poppa Sloot was there too..

[Lala'sMom]

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 10:48 pm
Coverups begin with elders and the founders of the houses of Babylon
Not the minions
DirtyHand knows this


Even Shango knew there was corruption before many of us realized the extent.  If you notice, Simian never says that the ALE is involved in a cover up...ever. No bad words for the police from Simian, but Shango seems to delight in telling this tale.  Two very different points of view, yet they almost came to the same conclusion...makes you go HHMMMMM!
 

Hugs to Nemo.

[cubbeegirl]

Of course something bad went down at the Sloot compound, and not in Joran's quarters. Why else keep the search out of the main house?

 

 I agree 10000000% Justins! and IMO poppa Sloot was there too..

Yep.... that pig!

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Good evening monkeys! Just a late night drive by before I pour myself into bed...Is Greta interviewing P DeVries? Do I need to tape her show? I had taken her off my tivo...

Hope all is well with everyone!!    

 Hey Mishy~!!! It wil be on again in approx 7 minutes on FOX.
 If you miss it.. SAN  and Jackie  transrribed it somewhere on this thread. Its at the VERY beginning of Gretas show.  
  Greta seemed.. coldhearted  IMO.. but Devries was good and Beth was awesome!!!!!!!!

I think Greta needs to get some emails regarding her demeanor tonight...

 God Love Beth for being as strong as she is..  some of Grtas remarks she made Im afraid I would have told her to go straight to hell.

[Tylergal]

The last place that JK2 felt a need to place themselves with Natalee and offer an explanation for was Joran's house. They covered the possibility that the car was seen there by that lame story of going by the house, parking, but not going in. I don't think Natalee ever left there with full consciousness and maybe died there. I believe strongly that what happened to her began at that property. Actually the drugging began at C&Cs.

I agree CBB. That whole, going to the house, but not going in story never did sound one bit believable to me....And I also feel that the "something bad" happened at that house....

He had to admit that they went to his house, because the car was seen.  Remember?  He was never going to admit it, but he had to insert it in there in some way, and that was how he handled the part of the lie he was caught in.  "We went by but did not go in."

If you recall, Arubagirl had mentioned it on the word-wide-web that they were seen going to Montanja, headed toward Joran house.  Who says that perhaps a neighbor did not see Deepaks' car there?  But what I suspect is Deepak dropped them off and went back to clean his car.  Something bad happened to Natalee at the hands of Paulus vanderSloot under the procurement of Joran and Deepak was summoned for some reason.  Satish knew about it and thus asked how the girl was.

[Lala'sMom]

Memphis
Email me your thoughts on Shango...

[Tylergal]

Well, the beach story is tied into the K2 saying that they left Joran and Natalee there and also because Joran places himself there.  The only thing is that in one of the statements a reference is made about driving by Joran's place.  It is obvious that his place is involved, because why?   They want everyone to think they were on the beach.  Something bad happened...in the car or in his apartment.  She died on these jerks and giving no regard to Natalee at all...they just left her to die or maybe aided in her demise.   There is always some inking of truth in everything they say...if the beach was involved at all it was because Deepak had to pee again.  Maybe she jumped out of the car and ran and that is how they connect the beach in all this... it's convoluted at best.

They buried her temporarily near the fishermen's huts

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Greta repeat on  right NOW!

[cubbeegirl]

The last place that JK2 felt a need to place themselves with Natalee and offer an explanation for was Joran's house. They covered the possibility that the car was seen there by that lame story of going by the house, parking, but not going in. I don't think Natalee ever left there with full consciousness and maybe died there. I believe strongly that what happened to her began at that property. Actually the drugging began at C&Cs.

I agree CBB. That whole, going to the house, but not going in story never did sound one bit believable to me....And I also feel that the "something bad" happened at that house....

He had to admit that they went to his house, because the car was seen.  Remember?  He was never going to admit it, but he had to insert it in there in some way, and that was how he handled the part of the lie he was caught in.  "We went by but did not go in."

If you recall, Arubagirl had mentioned it on the word-wide-web that they were seen going to Montanja, headed toward Joran house.  Who says that perhaps a neighbor did not see Deepaks' car there?  But what I suspect is Deepak dropped them off and went back to clean his car.  Something bad happened to Natalee at the hands of Paulus vanderSloot under the procurement of Joran and Deepak was summoned for some reason.  Satish knew about it and thus asked how the girl was.

Sounds about right Tyler...
Going to go watch Greta again in my warm bed...
Night monkeys...