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No Body...No Tourism aruba! Bring Natalee Home!


« Reply #1960 on: October 12, 2009, 03:02:22 PM »

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The Range Rover "confession" regarding the disposal of Natalee Holloway's body and the "cage/trap" disposal do not equate.  Following Joran van der Sloots departure for home ... logic dictates that "Daury" did not break into the Fisherman's Hut ... carry a 300 lb to his boat ... place Natalee's body within ... locate a tarp to cover her body ... locate rocks to weight down the trap ... take her out to sea and ... then makes his way to Joran's home to discuss the situation.

Janet

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THE COMPLETE STORY
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case


Daury came instantly to Joran and together they quickly declared that Natalee was in fact dead.
 
Together they carried the girl from the beach into Daury’s boat. Daury tells Joran to walk home. He, the friend, takes off onto the ocean where he throws Natalee’s body out of the boat into the sea. After that he visits Joran at his home, he has an apartment in the garden of his parent’s house, to talk about what happened.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm

Janet,
I agree completely.
What I'm saying is that the two events tied together would go a long way in getting aruba/persistence effots out there in the public domain....
urine says Natalee was shaking uncontrollably so he disposed of her (either alive or dead) in the water and  the cage discovery presents the where she was disposed. I know the two when broken down can't be as simple as urine confesses, but it would generate international attention to the case and would put aruba and persistence efforts in the spotlight.....
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« Reply #1961 on: October 12, 2009, 03:08:36 PM »

If Peter Devries was aware of the trap/cage contents,why would he not inform Beth Holloway?I believe that is a very good point Janet brings up..JMOO.I trust no one from Aruba to the Netherlands!Period....UNTIL JUSTICE IS SERVED!!

According to Private Eye ... his sister was privy to the screen shoots that were released to the FBI ... Dave Holloway and ... the internet.  However ... the issue is the ROV FOOTAGE.

If Peter Devries was aware of the ROV FOOTAGE two week following his interview with Beth Holloway and ... did not inform Natalee's mother of what Kyle Kingman and Tim Trahan were attempting to do with that ROV FOOTAGE ... I can only assume his reasoning would be that this ROV FOOTAGE would negate the Range Rover "confession" and ... negate his words implying that Joran gave a full confession and that the case has been solved.

Janet

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THE COMPLETE INTERVIEW WITH BETH TWITTY
Thursday 31 January 2008


http://www.peterrdevries.com/quote-beth.htm
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« Reply #1962 on: October 12, 2009, 03:13:00 PM »

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« Reply #1963 on: October 12, 2009, 03:40:40 PM »

billb

My DIL and I completed on this Canadian Thanksgiving morning ... the first draft of a huge document encompassing the Persistence betrayal.  One segment of this documentation is the perceived distractions from the contents of the trap/cage that were recovered by the Arubans:

1.  The False Lead
2.  The Range Rover Confession.
3.  Two Pond Searches (2007/2009)
4.  The Ongoing Searches (2008/2009)

In other words ... EVERYTHING I have already shared with the forum.  No surprises.

Thankfully ... there will be assistance in finalizing this huge endeavor.  I am soooo Persistence out.

 

Janet

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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #1964 on: October 12, 2009, 03:45:27 PM »

A Thanksgiving gathering was at my home yesterday for my side of the family and ... today a gathering is taking place at the home of my daughter for hubby's side of the family.

Following a turkey, stuffing and cranberry toasted sandwich I just had for lunch ... I have made that decision that I never want to eat turkey again.  I am tukeyed out!

I hope sister-in-laws bring lots of sushi rolls.

 

Have a good day all.

Janet
12:45 PM PT
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #1965 on: October 12, 2009, 03:47:27 PM »

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Thanks 2NJ

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #1966 on: October 12, 2009, 06:16:14 PM »

I don't believe that Joran's statements to Patrick rule out any means of disposal.

As in any confession, the WHOLE truth was not told. 

I have no idea what Peter DeVries has shared with Beth other than what has been made public, and until Beth gives an indication that she doesn't believe Patrick and Peter were sincere in their efforts; I believe they were.  Think about it, Peter DeVries has been a well respected Investigative Crime Reporter for over thirty years.  The perpetrators of the crimes against Natalee may have clout in (corrupt as HELL) Aruba, but I don't believe there is ANYTHING that would have convinced Peter DeVries to lower himself to the level of conspiring with them and the Aruban authorities to deceive Natalee's family; and/or prevent Justice for Natalee from being served.

Just my opinion.



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1967 on: October 12, 2009, 06:27:06 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_63684.php

Google translation:


Elderly killed in home


October 12, 2009, 13:56 (GMT -04:00)

 


The lifeless body of Dorothy Adelle Hassell is brought to the ambulance.

ORANGE CITY - The 73-year-old Dorothy Adelle Hassell was last Saturday, about seven hours at night, found dead in her home to Savaneta. The lone elderly was in the living room with various injuries. It is said that her grandson discovered the body. The murder of elderly woman has significant unsettled, especially among the locals.

The Public Prosecutor (OM) will be given the battered state of the victim was found of a violent crime, but will, as long as no arrests have been made, yet speak of murder or manslaughter. Prosecutor says that no suspects. Soon section performed on the body of Hassell. The research is conducted by a combined team of police detectives, police and technical supervisors, under the coordination of the Office in San Nicolas. Anyone who thinks anything to have seen or heard near the house, between four hours last Saturday afternoon and seven hours at night, is asked to contact the detective of San Nicolas at 584-5000, or message to leave on the tiplijn, 11,141.

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Savaneta is a neighborhood where almost everyone knows each other and Dorothy "Dotty" Hassell was no stranger. So she bought her tickets in the lottery regularly shop a little further next supermarket Kong Fui and was active in the church of Sagrado Curazon. Recently departed her house the procession to the fiftieth anniversary of the church to celebrate. The neighborhood is shocked at her death, especially because of Hassell's house right opposite the residence of Governor Fredis Refunjol secure state. Residents wonder: "How can it be that the guard of the house of the governor had not noticed. He could still hear her screaming. "Soundings of the Office of the Governor shows that only the guard realized that something was going on across the main road when police and ambulance had arrived. It was in the neighborhood knows that Hassell, like many of the elderly in Savaneta days and the rest of the island, lived alone at home. "I recently asked her why she was not that big house to a smaller place, or Maristella" said Ana Maria Rasmijn (60). "But she said she nou once accustomed to that house."
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1968 on: October 12, 2009, 06:42:58 PM »

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« Reply #1969 on: October 12, 2009, 06:45:39 PM »

A Thanksgiving gathering was at my home yesterday for my side of the family and ... today a gathering is taking place at the home of my daughter for hubby's side of the family.

Following a turkey, stuffing and cranberry toasted sandwich I just had for lunch ... I have made that decision that I never want to eat turkey again.  I am tukeyed out!

I hope sister-in-laws bring lots of sushi rolls.

 

Have a good day all.

Janet
12:45 PM PT


Happy Thanksgiving Janet.
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