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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2009, 11:21:50 AM »



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2009, 11:24:38 AM »

Well I'm Back....


Aruba World Trade Center
 
The Aruba WTC Complex
 
The Aruba World Trade Center complex will ultimately encompass two or more buildings. The full plan is in the development stages and will be available in the immediate future. All buildings may be developed directly in the Port of Aruba and be come a viable part of the Aruba Free Trade Zone and the “New Aruba Port”.



Aruba World Trade Center


The Aruba World Trade - Building One (phase one)
 
Building one of The Aruba World Trade Center complex will be dedicated to a mixed use concept which will include the Aruba World Trade Center offices, a World Trade Center global display,
world class public and private sector offices, regional offices of international ports and trade ministries, two floors of state of the art virtual offices for international companies, two floors of permanent exhibition space, an International business center with a global communications
network and executive level business services which will be available to all manufacturers and tenants of the building, ocean view condos, a World Trade Showcase Center, and the very exclusive Aruba World Trade Center Club and its dining and leisure facilities. 

This building is currently projected to be 200,000 gross square feet.
 
Phase one of the Aruba WTC complex will contain all of the following which will include
a minimum of 8 Profit Centers including: 
   
The Aruba World Trade Center

The Aruba World Trade Showcase Center

The Aruba World Trade Center Club, including
a roof top revolving Restaurant, live entertainment, cocktail lounge, and VIP
Private Dining facilities

Several floors of ocean view Condos/Hotel

VIP Executive Offices and Suites with full services

Wireless Internet Service Throughout including Videoconferencing and VIP Services

Local and International Economic Development Offices

Consulate and Trade Ministry Offices

An International bank

Digital and Hi-Definition Video and TV
Production Facilities
 Aruba's first international investment banking organization

International Private Sector Offices

Conference Rooms with High Definition Projection Capability

Electronic International Library

Translation and Interpreting Service Center

Print/Copy/Shipping Center

Meeting Facilities and Classrooms with latest
AV Technology

Full-Service Business Center for Program Participants, members and guests

Government and Chambers of Commerce
Offices

Meeting & Seminar facilities

And possibly the Aruba Stock exchange.

2007 Aruba World Trade Center

 
There will also be other business features included in this complex.

 http://www.websiteq.com/member/arubawtc/index.asp?action=page&name=1&subname=138

http://www.websiteq.com/member/arubawtc/index.asp?action=page&name=1&subname=137
   ARUBA WORLD TRADE CENTER LLC
 Fort lauderdale, FL
West palm beach, FL   
AVON, RANDY
(MANAGER)
BIKKER, ANDIN
(MANAGER)
OPPEL, EDWARD R
(MANAGER)
ROSSO, FRANK
(MANAGER)

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=24874

Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Foundation Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 11 APRIL 1991 under serial number S132 is the foundation with the tradename:

 
STICHTING ARUBA WORLD TRADE CENTER FOUNDATION
 
Business address   L.G. SMITH BLVD. 50, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form   FOUNDATION
Name of the   STICHTING ARUBA WORLD TRADE CENTER FOUNDATION
company/foundation/association:
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of   14 APRIL 1991
incorporation/commencement:
Last amendment in the articles   20 SEPTEMBER 1996
    
 
BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS

AVON, RANDY;
Residing in   2100 NE 55TH STREET , FORT LAUDERDALE, FL. 33308, U.S.A.
Born in   U.S.A. on 25 SEPTEMBER 1940
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   PRESIDENT
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
OPPEL, EDWARD RICHARD;
Residing in   10767 GRANDE BOULEVARD WEST PALM BEACH, FL. 33412, FLORIDA, U.S.A.
Born in   U.S.A. on 30 DECEMBER 1939
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   SECRETARY
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
BOEKHOUDT, GENE JEAN DOUARD;
Residing in   ROOI KOCHI 27-W, SAVANETA, ARUBA
Born in   ARUBA on 3 MARCH 1978
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
BIKKER, ANDIN CEASAR GIOVANNI;
Residing in   MADUROSTRAAT 17, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Born in   ARUBA on 20 AUGUST 1969
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
ROSSO, FRANK JEREMEY;
Residing in   2760 SE 13TH COURT POMPARO BEACH, FL 33062, U.S.A.
Born in   U.S.A. on 8 JULY 1962
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE FOUNDATION

1. TO PROMOTE, DEVELOP, BUILD AND EXPLOIT A WORLD TRADE CENTRE IN ARUBA.
2. TO ORGANIZE OR DO ORGANIZE STOCK EXCHANGE, MARKETS, INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL AND AGRICULTURAL EXHIBITIONS, AS WELL IN ARUBA AS ABROAD.
3. TO ADVISE IN THE FIELD OF SALE AND PROMOTION IN GENERAL
4. TO PERFORM ALL THAT WHICH IS RELATED TO THE ABOVEMENTIONED AND CAN BE CONDUCIVE THERETO.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2009, 11:32:14 AM »

WORLD TRADE CENTER ARUBA A.V.V.
A.V.V.S    35894/000


http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=37223

Close · Aruba, September 6th, 2009

THIS ENTERPRISE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH LEGAL REQUIREMENTS CONCERNING PAYMENT OF THE ANNUAL CHAMBER DUES

If you wish to obtain information regarding this company, you can request
     - to have access to its file for perusal (only possible at the premises of the Aruba
       Chamber of Commerce), or
     - an extract of the company registration (a standard extract can be issued within                         
       24 hours after due payment is received. Historical extracts take a maximum
       of 3 days to prepare). For the applicable tariffs click here

For an appointment to inspect files or for ordering an extract contact the Aruba Chamber of Commerce by email at reception@arubachamber.com  You can also order online by clicking here.

Appointments and orders cannot be processed unless the company name and/or file number and your email address as well as your telephone number are provided.
 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2009, 11:50:15 AM »

Good Morning All!

Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2009, 11:52:14 AM »

Good Morning All!

Janet
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2009, 01:51:11 PM »

Well I'm Back....


Aruba World Trade Center
 
The Aruba WTC Complex
 
The Aruba World Trade Center complex will ultimately encompass two or more buildings. The full plan is in the development stages and will be available in the immediate future. All buildings may be developed directly in the Port of Aruba and be come a viable part of the Aruba Free Trade Zone and the “New Aruba Port”.



Aruba World Trade Center


The Aruba World Trade - Building One (phase one)
 
Building one of The Aruba World Trade Center complex will be dedicated to a mixed use concept which will include the Aruba World Trade Center offices, a World Trade Center global display,
world class public and private sector offices, regional offices of international ports and trade ministries, two floors of state of the art virtual offices for international companies, two floors of permanent exhibition space, an International business center with a global communications
network and executive level business services which will be available to all manufacturers and tenants of the building, ocean view condos, a World Trade Showcase Center, and the very exclusive Aruba World Trade Center Club and its dining and leisure facilities. 

This building is currently projected to be 200,000 gross square feet.
 
Phase one of the Aruba WTC complex will contain all of the following which will include
a minimum of 8 Profit Centers including: 
   
The Aruba World Trade Center

The Aruba World Trade Showcase Center

The Aruba World Trade Center Club, including
a roof top revolving Restaurant, live entertainment, cocktail lounge, and VIP
Private Dining facilities

Several floors of ocean view Condos/Hotel

VIP Executive Offices and Suites with full services

Wireless Internet Service Throughout including Videoconferencing and VIP Services

Local and International Economic Development Offices

Consulate and Trade Ministry Offices

An International bank

Digital and Hi-Definition Video and TV
Production Facilities
 Aruba's first international investment banking organization

International Private Sector Offices

Conference Rooms with High Definition Projection Capability

Electronic International Library

Translation and Interpreting Service Center

Print/Copy/Shipping Center

Meeting Facilities and Classrooms with latest
AV Technology

Full-Service Business Center for Program Participants, members and guests

Government and Chambers of Commerce
Offices

Meeting & Seminar facilities

And possibly the Aruba Stock exchange.

2007 Aruba World Trade Center

 
There will also be other business features included in this complex.

 http://www.websiteq.com/member/arubawtc/index.asp?action=page&name=1&subname=138

http://www.websiteq.com/member/arubawtc/index.asp?action=page&name=1&subname=137
   ARUBA WORLD TRADE CENTER LLC
 Fort lauderdale, FL
West palm beach, FL   
AVON, RANDY
(MANAGER)
BIKKER, ANDIN
(MANAGER)
OPPEL, EDWARD R
(MANAGER)
ROSSO, FRANK
(MANAGER)

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=24874

Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Foundation Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 11 APRIL 1991 under serial number S132 is the foundation with the tradename:

 
STICHTING ARUBA WORLD TRADE CENTER FOUNDATION
 
Business address   L.G. SMITH BLVD. 50, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form   FOUNDATION
Name of the   STICHTING ARUBA WORLD TRADE CENTER FOUNDATION
company/foundation/association:
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of   14 APRIL 1991
incorporation/commencement:
Last amendment in the articles   20 SEPTEMBER 1996
    
 
BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS

AVON, RANDY;
Residing in   2100 NE 55TH STREET , FORT LAUDERDALE, FL. 33308, U.S.A.
Born in   U.S.A. on 25 SEPTEMBER 1940
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   PRESIDENT
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
OPPEL, EDWARD RICHARD;
Residing in   10767 GRANDE BOULEVARD WEST PALM BEACH, FL. 33412, FLORIDA, U.S.A.
Born in   U.S.A. on 30 DECEMBER 1939
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   SECRETARY
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
BOEKHOUDT, GENE JEAN DOUARD;
Residing in   ROOI KOCHI 27-W, SAVANETA, ARUBA
Born in   ARUBA on 3 MARCH 1978
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
BIKKER, ANDIN CEASAR GIOVANNI;
Residing in   MADUROSTRAAT 17, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Born in   ARUBA on 20 AUGUST 1969
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
ROSSO, FRANK JEREMEY;
Residing in   2760 SE 13TH COURT POMPARO BEACH, FL 33062, U.S.A.
Born in   U.S.A. on 8 JULY 1962
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   31 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE FOUNDATION

1. TO PROMOTE, DEVELOP, BUILD AND EXPLOIT A WORLD TRADE CENTRE IN ARUBA.
2. TO ORGANIZE OR DO ORGANIZE STOCK EXCHANGE, MARKETS, INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL AND AGRICULTURAL EXHIBITIONS, AS WELL IN ARUBA AS ABROAD.
3. TO ADVISE IN THE FIELD OF SALE AND PROMOTION IN GENERAL
4. TO PERFORM ALL THAT WHICH IS RELATED TO THE ABOVEMENTIONED AND CAN BE CONDUCIVE THERETO.
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 6 DECEMBER 2001 under serial number 28361.0 is the company with the tradename:
 
 
GOMEZ & BIKKER 
 
Business address CAYA DR. J.E.M. ARENDS 14, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  PARTNERSHIP 
Name of the company  MAATSCHAP ADVOCATEN GOMEZ & BIKKER 
Date of commencement  15 MARCH 2000 
     
   
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
ADVOKATENPRAKTIJK MR.A. BIKKER N.V. 
Established at  MORGENSTER 106, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA 
Position  MANAGING PARTNER 
Since  6 DECEMBER 2001 
Authority  FULL 
   
ADVOKATENPRAKTIJK MR. L.D. GOMEZ N.V. 
Established at  L.G. SMITH BLVD. 150, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Position  MANAGING PARTNER 
Since  6 DECEMBER 2001 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 
 
ADVOCATUUR IN HET ALGEMEEN. 
   
 
http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_search.afp


Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Foundation Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 20 DECEMBER 2001 under serial number S576 is the foundation with the tradename:
 
 
GOMEZ & BIKKER FOUNDATION 
 
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 50, ORANJESTAD OOST 
Legal form  FOUNDATION 
Name of the GOMEZ & BIKKER FOUNDATION 
company/foundation/association:
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of 13 DECEMBER 2001 
incorporation/commencement:
     
   
BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS 
 
BIKKER, ANDIN CEASAR GIOVANNI; 
Residing in  MADUROSTRAAT 17, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 20 AUGUST 1969 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  SECRETARY 
Effective  13 DECEMBER 2001 
   
VAN ROMONDT, ALICE CONSTANCE; 
Residing in  LAGOENWEG 13, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 2 DECEMBER 1949 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  PRESIDENT 
Effective  13 DECEMBER 2001 
   
GOMEZ, LINCOLN DELWIN; 
Residing in  MALMOKWEG 22-N, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 28 DECEMBER 1969 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  TREASURER 
Effective  13 DECEMBER 2001 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE FOUNDATION 
 
HET BIJDRAGEN AAN DE ONTWIKKELING VAN DE WETENSCHAP EN KUNST IN HET ALGEMEEN EN IN HET BIJZONDER DE JURIDISCHE EN KUNST WETENSCHAP OP ARUBA. 
   
 
http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_search.afp
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May 2010 Bring Natalee Home to Rest In Peace!
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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2009, 02:16:05 PM »

I think I owe KTF an apology (and condolences). Yesterday he was screaming "Go Dawgs". I thought he was purposefully trying to get my goat and root for the Georgia Bulldawgs (who my OSU Cowboys played yesterday). I realized last night he was merely rooting for his "Husky dawgs"! 
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2009, 02:20:03 PM »

Great work, Hotping & Texasmom!!!!

 

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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2009, 02:36:05 PM »

I think I owe KTF an apology (and condolences). Yesterday he was screaming "Go Dawgs". I thought he was purposefully trying to get my goat and root for the Georgia Bulldawgs (who my OSU Cowboys played yesterday). I realized last night he was merely rooting for his "Husky dawgs"! 

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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2009, 02:37:49 PM »

Looks like Aruba is constructing a building to house all the illegal operations?
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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2009, 02:46:56 PM »

Looks like Aruba is constructing a building to house all the illegal operations?

It will be VERY interesting to see which companies will be occupying this buldings office space!
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« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2009, 03:49:24 PM »

Was there a preconceived plan to implicate "only" Joran and an unnamed accomplice  in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway while distancing the Kalpoe brothers who had the ability to implicate Paulus, Steve Croes and the sons of the elite.

On one hand ... "The Public Prosecutors Office Aruba and the Aruban Police Force" claim in the following press announcement that Joran van der Sloot words in the recording do not justify an arrest as he is not trustworthy and cannot be believed but ... on the other hand .... the Kalpoes can be exonerated by those same words that cannot be believed.

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« Reply #809 on: January 06, 2009, 07:14:06 PM »


Press Anouncement
Ladies and gentlemen!


The Public Prosecutors Office Aruba and the Aruban Police Force would like to give you an updated summary about the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Why? Three reasons

First of all there is the fact that a few months ago, based on the results of the investigation, the estimate was that the investigation could be ended by the end of 2008. More specifically I am referring to the re-opened investigation into the suspect in this case, Joran van der Sloot, against whom the criminal investigation was restarted after the broadcast of a Peter R. de Vries investigation last February. Because that program caused a new stream of information, this information first has to be examined which will take at least another few months.

Secondly, about six weeks ago an interview with Joran van der Sloot was broadcasted on an American cable news Channel. In this interview Joran tells a completely new version of the alleged facts that occurred concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Before showing the interview and in the days after the show the Aruban Prosecutors Office and the Aruban Police were alleged to be corrupt and unwilling to investigate possible leads in this case. We find it fit to address those allegations today.

The third reason is that my Office and the Police Department would like to urge all people that have information about things that have occurred on May 30th 2005 or about persons that are or might be involved in this case, whatever that information may be, to hand that information over to the Police or to the Public Prosecutors Office.

For a good understanding of the facts I would like to take you back to December 18th 2007. It was on that day that the three suspects in this case got official notice from my Office that the criminal investigation into their possible involvement in this case was ended. This did not mean that the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway also ended. On the contrary. That investigation never stopped. If new information or evidence would come up, the criminal investigation against any suspect in this case could be re-opened. This is possible as long as the statute of limitations does not prohibit this.

No one could imagine at that time that within a month from that decision this Office was confronted with the information that Dutch crime investigator Peter R de Vries had made secret camera shots of Joran van der Sloot talking about the case against a civilian under cover. After my Office got the tapes and before the actual broadcast of the Peter R. de Vries program, on our request the criminal investigation against Joran was re-opened by the investigating judge.

At the same time the investigation was fully operational again and had as a main goal to find as much corroborating evidence as possible of what Joran van der Sloot had told the under cover. The judge was asked to approve the third consecutive custody of Joran van der Sloot. The investigating judge against whose decision this Office lodged an appeal at the Common Court of Appeal in Curacao denied this approval. The Court of Appeal upheld the investigating judges’ decision, thus disabling Police to re-arrest Joran van der Sloot.

It is proper to take another look at the Court of Appeals’ decision. The Court of Appeal took into account the footage that was handed over by Peter de Vries as well as all the old investigative results of over nearly 3 years of investigation. Weighing whether there was enough new serious material, evidence (necessary to be able to put one into custody) the Court decided that the new elements that Joran had told the under cover were not corroborated by “objective facts”. On top of that the Court considered the fact that the suspect already had argued that there are objective facts that contradict the new elements that were told by him to the under cover. The fact that Joran has supplied the Police with a motive for his lying behavior and the fact that he has admitted that he often is not telling the truth, makes, according to the Court of Appeal, that the self incriminating new statements of Joran are devaluated.

In short: there is no corroborating evidence for the new self incriminating statements of Joran and the value of these statements is undermined by his own statement about his credibility.

What does the Court’s decision imply when we take a closer look?
1.    After an extensive and intensive investigation, the contents of the Police file combined with the new statements of Joran, does not hold enough evidence necessary to pass the threshold for a third consecutive term of pretrial custody.
2.    Logical conclusion from the above mentioned must be, that the evidence that we do have in the extensive files, is not enough to convict this suspect.

For that reason this Office has made the gathering of these “objective facts” that can serve as evidence against the main suspect it’s primary goal for the investigation from that point on.

What the Police and this Office have done:

•    Already on January 22nd 2008, the day after Peter de Vries had shown the tapes to the Public Prosecutor and the Police, the investigation into the person called “Daury” was started. Finally a person called Daury R. was identified and it turned out that he probably was involved in drug trafficking activities (as had been told by Joran). Because of that and following his own TV-appearance on 20-20, he was arrested in the USA on the suspicion of international drug trafficking. He is currently detained in the USA.

•    Investigation into the pay phone in the hotel garden was started as well as finding an answer to the question whether Joran had the possession of a credit card (necessary to use the phone).

•    On our request the National Prosecutor’s Office in Rotterdam as well as The National Crime Squad executed numerous requests, such as various house searches and finally the questioning of Joran van der Sloot.

•    Since then over 20 witnesses were interviewed, some of them for the second or third time. These interviews pertained mostly to Joran’s missing shoes and the person called “Daury”, Joran’s alleged accomplice.

•    Amongst the witnesses were the two brothers who previously were suspects in this case but who, by the new statements of Joran, received an alibi from Joran, when he told the under cover that the two brothers are “jerks” who don’t know anything about what had happened.

•    During his stay on Aruba the Police twice interviewed under cover “Patrick”.

Besides the Police investigation Peter de Vries’ program received an enormous amount of information. The serious tips were passed on to my Office in order to have them investigated.  Four of them could be investigated and led to thorough investigation.

Furthermore investigation was conducted into the statement of a fisherman, until that moment unknown by the Police or my Office. This witness, known by the Holloway family, claimed that in the night of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway a large knife was stolen from one of the Fisherman’s huts while at the same time a large crab cage was missing that at least was there until the month of April. This owner of the cage was also interviewed by the Police but told them that this allegedly missing cage had never been left at the huts but was always taken home.

He told the Police that Mrs. Holloway and the press approached him a long time ago and that he had told them his story. His identity was never officially revealed to the Police. It was because the Persistence ship at that time was searching for relevant material on the sea bed that the story about the cage and the fisherman came up in a conversation between this Office and Mr. Dave Holloway, which led this Office to the identity of the witness.

As you may know, the expedition of the Persistence led to only one finding that was supposed to be relevant to this case. Special Police divers brought certain material to the surface of which one might assume could be the clothes of Natalee Holloway. These samples were sent to the FBI laboratory. After examination by the FBI the result was that these samples did not match the clothes of Natalee.

In the month of March 2008 a witness who was urged by Dave Holloway to step forward confronted the Prosecutor’s Office. The man gave a statement on March 16th 2008 accompanied by his lawyer. This witness statement is already widely known: the witness claims he saw Joran van der Sloot in the middle of the night of May 30th walking in front of his house, soaked up to his chest, walking on one shoe and heavily breathing. He was walking into the direction of the hotels, coming from the direction of the Church at Noord. What the witness was actually aiming for was the Police to conduct an intensive search in the dam of Monserrat. Nevertheless the witness could not give us any reason why the Police should conduct a search in the dam. It was the conclusion of the witness that Joran had come from the dam since he came walking from that direction. There was no indication whatsoever that Joran had been at the dam. For that reason the Police were not ordered to conduct that search. Later, people from the Persistence asked if they were allowed to conduct a search. They were told that they could go ahead if the wanted to. No results were reported. Besides that, the Monserrat dam, which had completely fallen dry by that time, was not long before that request completely searched by dozens of people, for a completely different reason. No results were reported.

This witness has turned himself to Dave Holloway, as we have been told. He has given a new statement and has undergone a lie detector test. According to the summary of the lie detector test results (a full report, as promised to my Office by Tim Miller was never received) the witness was considered to be reliable. This Office never questioned the reliability of what the witness claimed to have seen. Yet, the value of his statement in the reconstruction of facts of that night is very limited. With his sole statement this case could never be solved.

Police and the Prosecutor’s Office are being accused of not following leads in this investigation. Those allegations are unjust and unfounded. Of course it is true that we weigh the information and the source on credibility and value before we start to investigate. But witnesses, who claim to have leads that find no ground in facts whatsoever and therefore are not being investigated by the Police, are free to investigate those themselves. This - of course – within the limitations imposed by law.

I will give you three examples of what we have experienced the last 10 months in terms of leads given by people who claim to have special powers and know where Natalee would be.

The first one claimed that Natalee was in the hands of foreign criminals but could not give us any actual lead to follow.

The second one recently claimed that the girl was buried on an Aruba beach. After consulting my Office and the Police a private search was conducted, only facilitated by the Police. No result was reported.

The third person was very persistent and claimed he had witnesses he could not disclose to my Office. He claimed Natalee was buried under a hotel that was under construction at the time of her disappearance. He requested that my Office would order a hole to be drilled in the hotel floor in order to conduct an endoscopic search underneath the hotel. When the prosecutor asked the man for the undisclosed witnesses and kept asking for his sources, he finally admitted that his theory was based on a dream.

As you can see, this is just a part of what we have experienced over the past months. There is much more of these “leads” which take us an awful lot of time and distract us from the actual investigation. We do not obstruct anyone, but when there is no concrete information or the information is unreliable we chose not to investigate that lead or that information. In that respect the Aruban Police is not different from any other Police force in the world.

CONCLUDING:

This I can tell you: during the investigation of which you just received an overview, a series of investigative acts were conducted. I will not disclose the results of that investigation here and now because the investigation is not yet finished and my Office does not want to disclose these results to the suspect and thus make him wiser even before he has been confronted with these results. Only as soon as the investigation into the new statements of Joran van der Sloot has been completely finalized, the suspect will be notified about the decision by my Office whether he will be charged or not. At that time the public also will be informed. If possible investigative results may be disclosed to the public.

When will the investigation be completed?

At this moment the last leads and some minor details are under investigation. These minor questions first have to be answered before a decision can be made. The Public Prosecutor’s Office expects to have conducted the necessary investigations within a number of months. Exact data cannot be determined.

Furthermore I would like to say this.
Recently Fox broadcast an interview of Joran van der Sloot recorded by Greta van Susteren in the spring of 2008. In this interview Joran presents yet another new version of the facts. This time he claims he has sold Natalee Holloway on the beach for $ 10,000 to a person called `Adamovic´ after a prearranged agreement. This man had taken the girl from the beach on a boat and sailed away.

Although Fox already had the possession of this information for nearly 6 months, it waited to disclose it to the public by the end of November 2008. A request by my Office to provide this information to us digitally was left unanswered.

Now suddenly Fox and a lawyer demand that my Office shall conduct an intensive investigation into a story of which the anchor of the program herself already considered the possibility that it could be “a wild goose chase”. Furthermore Joran van der Sloot after the interview was taped, denied that what he said was true. The Fox program also showed an interview with Joran´s American lawyer, in which the program’s anchor implicitly admitted that Joran was paid for the interview. Finally Fox broadcasts a so-called telephone conversation between Joran and his father. The contents of that phone call are supposed to corroborate Joran´s new story. The taped conversation between Joran and his father recently has been downloaded from the Internet by the Police and handed over to the Dutch Forensic Institute. This independent institute, the NFI, has been requested by the Police and my Office to conduct a voice-comparing investigation between the voice on that tape and earlier recordings of Paul van der Sloot. Within a few months we will know whether the material can be investigated and if so, what the results will be.

It is more than remarkable that no longer than 5 months after Joran´s so called confessions were taped on hidden cameras by Peter R. de Vries, statements both in the Netherlands and in the USA considered as “the solving of the case”, this Joran now comes forward with a completely different new story. Now this story is being considered as one that urgently has to be investigated. This while there are many indications that Joran simply pulled Fox’s leg and earned himself a lot of money as well. To prove that we are dealing with “a wild goose chase”, the Police on our request have checked some verifiable parts from Joran´s new statement, which show that it is a wild goose chase.

The Holloway family lawyer, who demanded the immediate arrest of suspects, was told that the Public Prosecutor, given the legal requirements, couldn’t find any ground in this interview to order an arrest.

Final remarks

Police and the Prosecutor’s Office on Aruba are still conducting an investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Yet we are approaching the end of this lengthy investigation and are busy with the last two leads. Now we are still busy I would like to add this: if you have relevant information, no matter how small or uninteresting it may seem, please notify my Office or the Police here on Aruba.

The purpose of the criminal investigation is to establish beyond reasonable doubt what has happened to Natalee Holloway on the night of May 30th 2005. Have crimes been committed against her and, if so, which crimes and by whom? And if someone is responsible for crimes committed, that person, whoever he may be, should be held accountable for those crimes in a court of law. Yet that result still has not been met.

In short: it is the Police and the Prosecutor’s Office that have, and should have, the primary responsibility for a criminal investigation. That is the way it is legally laid down in our judicial system. If others want to help, we will applaud them doing so. Yet, when those activities start to get counter productive and under circumstances jeopardizes the investigation, we should address the public and make them aware of these effects.

In order to prevent that happening we thought it fit to inform you through this press conference.

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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2009, 04:33:45 PM »

THE ARUBAN STRATEGY

Aruba must be given credit … in regards to the "confession" recording involving Peter Devries and Patrick vander Eem ... the strategy is brilliant.  The implication of only Joran and the exoneration of Deepak and Satish as well as Paulus in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 is a simplified means that will allow the “powers that be” to bring the Natalee Holloway case to a close; appease a grieving family; reverse negative media attention; and the hope of raking in millions from Phil McGraw through the defamation lawsuit filed by Deepak and Satish Kalpoe.

Janet

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JANUARY, 2009 - HANS MOS
Aruban Press Conference 01/06/09
Press Anouncement

Ladies and gentlemen!


The Public Prosecutors Office Aruba and the Aruban Police Force would like to give you an updated summary about the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway …

Amongst the witnesses were the two brothers who previously were suspects in this case but who, by the new statements of Joran, received an alibi from Joran, when he told the under cover that the two brothers are “jerks” who don’t know anything about what had happened … .

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

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Peter Devries

Dutch Crime Reporter Peter De Vries Goes Inside Joran van der Sloot's Explosive Tape
Friday, February 08, 2008


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Do you think -- a lot of viewers send me e-mails. I have a -- we have a blog here, Gretawire.com, and they send a lot of comments. They're very suspicious that Paulus Van Der Sloot has more of an involvement than simply just the father of the man who was caught on tape. Do you have any information that in any way incriminates Paulus Van Der Sloot?

PETER DE VRIES, DUTCH CRIME REPORTER:  Well, Joran told on tape that his father smuggled a mobile phone, a cell phone in the prison when he was the first time arrested. And he was a judge at that time, so that's -- that's a sin.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html


NANCY GRACE
Joran Submits to Questioning by Aruban Investigators in Holland
Aired February 7, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET


NANCY GRACE, HOST:  Peter, where do the Kalpoe brothers fit into this whole thing?

PETER DE VRIES, DUTCH INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Well, they brought him to the beach.

GRACE: Yes.

DE VRIES: They dropped him there, and Natalee, of course, and then they went home. And Joran was asked by Patrick, the insider, What do they know? And then Joran said -- and you have to notice his body language at that moment, No, they know nothing. They -- I told them nothing.

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Patrick van der Eem

Patrick van der Eem
Monday, April 14th, 2008
The ongoing boycot Aruba saga


I am not going into any claims of possible corruption in Aruba from the moment Natalee disappeared because I do not have the knowledge, nor the evidence, that there has been any official government corruption in this case. God knows if the father of Joran has used personal contacts to try to influence the outcome of the case when he was a judge in training. If so, than I would not call it official corruption, but the act of a man who is not even Aruban.

If it was a perfect world the bad guy would always go to jail, but it is not a perfect world. Yours neither Aruba’s. The boycott can go on forever, but at a certain point it ceases to be any good for anyone and that point started after I got Joran’ confession and Beth found peace after she came to know what happened to her daughter.

http://patrickvandereem.nl/stories/the-ongoing-boycot-aruba-saga/


The Kalpoe's Attorney

Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. PhilLOS ANGELES (AP) ―
   

A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns.

"I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom.


The ruling came a day after ABC's "20/20" aired a secretly recorded conversation involving Joran Van der Sloot, who also has been interrogated by Aruban authorities on Holloway's May 2005 disappearance. In the tape, Van der Sloot claims that Holloway died on the beach while they were kissing, and that he tried to revive her but failed. He said that the teen's body was dumped in the ocean and that it would never be found.

Joseph Tacopina, a lawyer for Van der Sloot, said that his client was not responsible for the Alabama teenager's death and that the tapes do not amount to a confession. Last week, Van der Sloot said he was lying in those conversations and denied that he had anything to do with Holloway's disappearance.

The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

Cremer said the taped remarks by Van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.


In their dismissal motion, attorneys for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

"The documents are relevant to the most fundamental issues in this case," Ferns stated in his ruling. "There is no other (information) which can substitute for the documents sought by the defendants due to the nature of this case."

In June, another judge dismissed a wrongful death case against the Kalpoes by Holloway's parents, ruling the Los Angeles Superior Court did not have jurisdiction. The parents maintained the brothers conceded jurisdiction when they sued CBS and McGraw in Los Angeles.


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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2009, 05:34:46 PM »

I think I owe KTF an apology (and condolences). Yesterday he was screaming "Go Dawgs". I thought he was purposefully trying to get my goat and root for the Georgia Bulldawgs (who my OSU Cowboys played yesterday). I realized last night he was merely rooting for his "Husky dawgs"! 

No apologies necessary Wreck!

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« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2009, 07:08:15 PM »

Hi Janet, welcome back.  Hope you enjoyed your time with your grandbaby.

As for Joran taking the brunt of all this I believe the powers that be know that the Kalpoes are their ticket to wealth and payback.  Joran knows this also along with Paulus.  No one wants to make the Kalpoes mad as their are the islands meal ticket AND most importantly they can spill their guts and expose the whole lot of them.  BUT in doing so they would pay dearly with their lives.  They wouldn't live very long on that island if they were stupid to do something like that.

By the way, any more news on the lawsuit against Dr. Phil?
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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2009, 07:39:39 PM »

Hi Janet, welcome back.  Hope you enjoyed your time with your grandbaby.

As for Joran taking the brunt of all this I believe the powers that be know that the Kalpoes are their ticket to wealth and payback.  Joran knows this also along with Paulus.  No one wants to make the Kalpoes mad as their are the islands meal ticket AND most importantly they can spill their guts and expose the whole lot of them.  BUT in doing so they would pay dearly with their lives.  They wouldn't live very long on that island if they were stupid to do something like that.

By the way, any more news on the lawsuit against Dr. Phil?

Blue Moon

Being the devil's advocate ... I respectfully disagree.

I believe that if the Kalpoe's exposed all ... their lives would be spared.  The "powers that be" would insure that no harm came to them.  After all ... the world would be watching ... waiting and ... anticipating ... Aruba's response.

To avoid the Kalpoes revealing all ... I believe that the strategy encompassing the Devries/van der Eem recording was to distance the Kalpoes from implication and ... thus use their exoneration to rake in millions from Phil McGraw and ... affording the Kalpoes a portion.

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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2009, 08:15:27 PM »

Hi Janet, welcome back.  Hope you enjoyed your time with your grandbaby.

As for Joran taking the brunt of all this I believe the powers that be know that the Kalpoes are their ticket to wealth and payback.  Joran knows this also along with Paulus.  No one wants to make the Kalpoes mad as their are the islands meal ticket AND most importantly they can spill their guts and expose the whole lot of them.  BUT in doing so they would pay dearly with their lives.  They wouldn't live very long on that island if they were stupid to do something like that.

By the way, any more news on the lawsuit against Dr. Phil?

Blue Moon

Being the devil's advocate ... I respectfully disagree.

I believe that if the Kalpoe's exposed all ... their lives would be spared.  The "powers that be" would insure that no harm came to them.  After all ... the world would be watching ... waiting and ... anticipating ... Aruba's response.

To avoid the Kalpoes revealing all ... I believe that the strategy encompassing the Devries/van der Eem recording was to distance the Kalpoes from implication and ... thus use their exoneration to rake in millions from Phil McGraw and ... affording the Kalpoes a portion.

IMO

Janet

I view it as a double edged sword for the Kalpoes.  Leave them alone, let them win their case against Dr. Phil, they in turn turn that money over to Aruba to pay for their troubles during all this and they go on living on that dirty little island no questions asked.

On the other hand, let them lose the lawsuit and their lives are worth nothing to the LE, Aruba, AHATA.  I hate to think what would happen to them "when" they lose the lawsuit.  Another hanging with their hands int heir pockets--suicide.  JMO
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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2009, 08:40:03 PM »

Blue Moon

I believe ... win or lose the McGraw lawsuit ... the Kalpoes days are numbered.  When the Natalee Holloway case is a distance memory in the minds of Americans ... When media attention is no longer a focus ... Deepak and Satish will both "commit  suicide with their hands in their pockets".

Aruba cannot chance that one will grow a conscience at some point in time and will expose the involvement of Joran ... Paulus and ... the sons of the elite in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 as well as those within Aruban Law Enforcement who were behind the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway..

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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2009, 08:52:38 PM »

Janet I am sorry to hear your DIL miscarried the baby she and your son were so looking forward to, and even though their hearts are broken, I hope DIL is doing o. k. physically. 
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2009, 09:09:23 PM »

Janet, I am so sorry for the loss.  I know how they feel.  I suffered two miscarriages after having my one and only child.  It was time to call it a day and not try anymore.  I was in my mid-late thirties and it was time.  It is NOT time for your son and DIL to hang it up.  They will have children with the help of caring doctors who specialize in this, diagnose the problem and correct it.  It takes time.  To this day I do sit and count how old they would have been, whether it was a girl or boy, what their lives would have been.  I hate it my son is an only child but I love him dearly and he is my life and I count my blessings for him every day.  Again I am so sorry.
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