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« Reply #480 on: September 14, 2009, 01:38:35 PM »

Hi 2NJ...Sure is Good To have You Back!  an angelic monkey

Thanks, hotping..... I'm still catching up, in and out of the cage...   
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« Reply #481 on: September 14, 2009, 02:51:12 PM »

http://www.coolaruba.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,28/?g2_itemId=1095222

Coolaruba/Gallery / Afterparty Caribbean Sea Jazz Festival 2009 with Anacaona @ CILO City Lounge 6Sept / Caribbean Sea Jazz Festival 2009 a Cere cu broche di Oro (65).JPG
 




 

 

Hotping, this might help you feel a bit better about Ms Renfro 

Remember this?


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Well how about a bit of proof that particular Swiss bank is participating with our IRS?  

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Rich Americans who have evaded taxes by hiding their foreign holdings have about a week to decide whether to turn themselves in to an Internal Revenue Service amnesty program or gamble that they will not be caught.

U.S. citizens with undeclared assets in tax havens such as Switzerland face a September 23 deadline to reveal their holdings, pay a fine and generally avoid criminal prosecution. When that amnesty program expires, any tax cheats found by the government could face criminal prosecution.

The IRS expects to find some tax evaders soon. UBS AG, the Swiss banking giant, agreed to hand over to the IRS the names of about 4,450 secret accounts as part of a court settlement reached last month.

"This is sort of their last, best chance if they are going to get off with lenient treatment," said Evan Stewart, a regulatory lawyer at the firm Zuckerman Spaeder.

"If you're sitting there and you've sheltered $50 million from the U.S. government, are you willing to gamble with the (list of) 4,500 (names), and live in terror for a year?" Stewart said.

The IRS said that in one week of July, about 400 individuals turned themselves in under the amnesty program. That was four times higher than the number of tax-evaders who stepped forward in all of 2008, according to the agency.

The IRS declined to provide any other figures about participation in its amnesty program.

IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman warned investors with money or securities in overseas accounts to step forward before the deadline. "Once the Swiss government turns over names, all bets are off," he said when announcing the UBS deal.

It appears to be working.

"They are all terrified," said Ken Rubinstein, who handles such cases in New York.

Under the UBS settlement, the bank agreed to first hand over names of 500 clients within about two months to Swiss authorities, who will review them before sending the list to U.S. officials. The remaining names will be submitted in a similar process by about May of next year.

At the same time, IRS officials have said that other foreign banks are being queried for possibly helping the wealthy evade taxes, although they have declined to be specific.

Lawyers say their clients include UBS holders but also those with funds at HSBC Holdings PLC Credit Suisse Group AG and in other offshore locations such as the Cayman Islands.

THREE DAY TURNAROUND

The approaching deadline has created a boon for tax lawyers.

"We and pretty much every other practitioner I know are being swamped with calls from clients who have waited until the 11th hour," said Scott Michel, a lawyer who is handling about 250 amnesty cases at Caplin & Drysdale.

Michel, whose clients have accounts valued between $1 million and $10 million, said they range from sympathetic Holocaust survivors to more typical tax dodgers.

"There are some people who were just cheating on their taxes; there is no doubt about it," Michel said.

The IRS began the program in March, part of an agency-wide focus on catching tax dodgers, to help make a dent in the $345 billion tax gap -- the amount the agency estimates goes uncollected each year.

Steven Mopsick, who worked for the IRS for 30 years, said he is getting a three-day turnaround when he submits information to the IRS for the amnesty program.

After checks on a client's passport or Social Security number to ensure there are no ongoing IRS probes, and a signature confirming that no income has come from illegal sources, the IRS grants a conditional approval before even looking at the tax forms.

The agency "is interested in getting these things approved," said Mopsick, who is handling about 30 clients with accounts valued between $1 million and $2 million. "The acceptance letter says you have been conditionally approved for the program; sit tight and an agent will contact you," he said.

Several lawyers involved in the program say many of their clients are immigrants who have inherited the funds.

"The one thing that I'm noticing with some degree of surprise is how ordinary the clients are," Rubinstein said. "The vast majority of our clients are ordinary. We haven't seen many billionaires."

(Reporting by Kim Dixon, editing by Dave Zimmerman)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090914/us_nm/us_ubs_tax_evasion

Now, I know this is all still somewhat circumstantial - but I'm finally willing to go out on a limb and state the obvious.

It appears Julia Renfro, at some point in the recent past, has come into a large enough amount of money to try and hide if from the IRS.

Being a US citizen and all, she IS still accountable to her country's tax laws.


So - what did Renfro do to earn that money, and who did she do it for?

Monday,Monday..... Tax evasion??Who woulda thought Jen3560..
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« Reply #482 on: September 14, 2009, 03:18:49 PM »

http://www.coolaruba.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,28/?g2_itemId=1095222

Coolaruba/Gallery / Afterparty Caribbean Sea Jazz Festival 2009 with Anacaona @ CILO City Lounge 6Sept / Caribbean Sea Jazz Festival 2009 a Cere cu broche di Oro (65).JPG
 




 

 

Hotping, this might help you feel a bit better about Ms Renfro 

Remember this?


Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address xxxxxx(Credit Suisse Group / CANA)
ISP Credit Suisse Group / CANA
Location Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : New York
City : New York
Lat/Long : 40.7619, -73.9763 (Map)

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Visit Number 16,887
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Well how about a bit of proof that particular Swiss bank is participating with our IRS?  

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Rich Americans who have evaded taxes by hiding their foreign holdings have about a week to decide whether to turn themselves in to an Internal Revenue Service amnesty program or gamble that they will not be caught.

U.S. citizens with undeclared assets in tax havens such as Switzerland face a September 23 deadline to reveal their holdings, pay a fine and generally avoid criminal prosecution. When that amnesty program expires, any tax cheats found by the government could face criminal prosecution.

The IRS expects to find some tax evaders soon. UBS AG, the Swiss banking giant, agreed to hand over to the IRS the names of about 4,450 secret accounts as part of a court settlement reached last month.

"This is sort of their last, best chance if they are going to get off with lenient treatment," said Evan Stewart, a regulatory lawyer at the firm Zuckerman Spaeder.

"If you're sitting there and you've sheltered $50 million from the U.S. government, are you willing to gamble with the (list of) 4,500 (names), and live in terror for a year?" Stewart said.

The IRS said that in one week of July, about 400 individuals turned themselves in under the amnesty program. That was four times higher than the number of tax-evaders who stepped forward in all of 2008, according to the agency.

The IRS declined to provide any other figures about participation in its amnesty program.

IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman warned investors with money or securities in overseas accounts to step forward before the deadline. "Once the Swiss government turns over names, all bets are off," he said when announcing the UBS deal.

It appears to be working.

"They are all terrified," said Ken Rubinstein, who handles such cases in New York.

Under the UBS settlement, the bank agreed to first hand over names of 500 clients within about two months to Swiss authorities, who will review them before sending the list to U.S. officials. The remaining names will be submitted in a similar process by about May of next year.

At the same time, IRS officials have said that other foreign banks are being queried for possibly helping the wealthy evade taxes, although they have declined to be specific.

Lawyers say their clients include UBS holders but also those with funds at HSBC Holdings PLC Credit Suisse Group AG and in other offshore locations such as the Cayman Islands.

THREE DAY TURNAROUND

The approaching deadline has created a boon for tax lawyers.

"We and pretty much every other practitioner I know are being swamped with calls from clients who have waited until the 11th hour," said Scott Michel, a lawyer who is handling about 250 amnesty cases at Caplin & Drysdale.

Michel, whose clients have accounts valued between $1 million and $10 million, said they range from sympathetic Holocaust survivors to more typical tax dodgers.

"There are some people who were just cheating on their taxes; there is no doubt about it," Michel said.

The IRS began the program in March, part of an agency-wide focus on catching tax dodgers, to help make a dent in the $345 billion tax gap -- the amount the agency estimates goes uncollected each year.

Steven Mopsick, who worked for the IRS for 30 years, said he is getting a three-day turnaround when he submits information to the IRS for the amnesty program.

After checks on a client's passport or Social Security number to ensure there are no ongoing IRS probes, and a signature confirming that no income has come from illegal sources, the IRS grants a conditional approval before even looking at the tax forms.

The agency "is interested in getting these things approved," said Mopsick, who is handling about 30 clients with accounts valued between $1 million and $2 million. "The acceptance letter says you have been conditionally approved for the program; sit tight and an agent will contact you," he said.

Several lawyers involved in the program say many of their clients are immigrants who have inherited the funds.

"The one thing that I'm noticing with some degree of surprise is how ordinary the clients are," Rubinstein said. "The vast majority of our clients are ordinary. We haven't seen many billionaires."

(Reporting by Kim Dixon, editing by Dave Zimmerman)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090914/us_nm/us_ubs_tax_evasion

Now, I know this is all still somewhat circumstantial - but I'm finally willing to go out on a limb and state the obvious.

It appears Julia Renfro, at some point in the recent past, has come into a large enough amount of money to try and hide if from the IRS.

Being a US citizen and all, she IS still accountable to her country's tax laws.


So - what did Renfro do to earn that money, and who did she do it for?

Monday,Monday..... Tax evasion??Who woulda thought Jen3560..

Reckon she got the face lift so she would look better on her mug shot?
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« Reply #483 on: September 14, 2009, 05:30:01 PM »

http://www.coolaruba.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,28/?g2_itemId=1095222

Coolaruba/Gallery / Afterparty Caribbean Sea Jazz Festival 2009 with Anacaona @ CILO City Lounge 6Sept / Caribbean Sea Jazz Festival 2009 a Cere cu broche di Oro (65).JPG
 




 

 

Hotping, this might help you feel a bit better about Ms Renfro 

Remember this?


Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address xxxxxx(Credit Suisse Group / CANA)
ISP Credit Suisse Group / CANA
Location Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : New York
City : New York
Lat/Long : 40.7619, -73.9763 (Map)

Language English (U.S.)
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Visit Exit Page http://nataleesfreeb...role-in-natalee.html
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Visitor's Time Aug 27 2009 4:45:00 pm
Visit Number 16,887
========

Well how about a bit of proof that particular Swiss bank is participating with our IRS?  

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Rich Americans who have evaded taxes by hiding their foreign holdings have about a week to decide whether to turn themselves in to an Internal Revenue Service amnesty program or gamble that they will not be caught.

U.S. citizens with undeclared assets in tax havens such as Switzerland face a September 23 deadline to reveal their holdings, pay a fine and generally avoid criminal prosecution. When that amnesty program expires, any tax cheats found by the government could face criminal prosecution.

The IRS expects to find some tax evaders soon. UBS AG, the Swiss banking giant, agreed to hand over to the IRS the names of about 4,450 secret accounts as part of a court settlement reached last month.

"This is sort of their last, best chance if they are going to get off with lenient treatment," said Evan Stewart, a regulatory lawyer at the firm Zuckerman Spaeder.

"If you're sitting there and you've sheltered $50 million from the U.S. government, are you willing to gamble with the (list of) 4,500 (names), and live in terror for a year?" Stewart said.

The IRS said that in one week of July, about 400 individuals turned themselves in under the amnesty program. That was four times higher than the number of tax-evaders who stepped forward in all of 2008, according to the agency.

The IRS declined to provide any other figures about participation in its amnesty program.

IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman warned investors with money or securities in overseas accounts to step forward before the deadline. "Once the Swiss government turns over names, all bets are off," he said when announcing the UBS deal.

It appears to be working.

"They are all terrified," said Ken Rubinstein, who handles such cases in New York.

Under the UBS settlement, the bank agreed to first hand over names of 500 clients within about two months to Swiss authorities, who will review them before sending the list to U.S. officials. The remaining names will be submitted in a similar process by about May of next year.

At the same time, IRS officials have said that other foreign banks are being queried for possibly helping the wealthy evade taxes, although they have declined to be specific.

Lawyers say their clients include UBS holders but also those with funds at HSBC Holdings PLC Credit Suisse Group AG and in other offshore locations such as the Cayman Islands.

THREE DAY TURNAROUND

The approaching deadline has created a boon for tax lawyers.

"We and pretty much every other practitioner I know are being swamped with calls from clients who have waited until the 11th hour," said Scott Michel, a lawyer who is handling about 250 amnesty cases at Caplin & Drysdale.

Michel, whose clients have accounts valued between $1 million and $10 million, said they range from sympathetic Holocaust survivors to more typical tax dodgers.

"There are some people who were just cheating on their taxes; there is no doubt about it," Michel said.

The IRS began the program in March, part of an agency-wide focus on catching tax dodgers, to help make a dent in the $345 billion tax gap -- the amount the agency estimates goes uncollected each year.

Steven Mopsick, who worked for the IRS for 30 years, said he is getting a three-day turnaround when he submits information to the IRS for the amnesty program.

After checks on a client's passport or Social Security number to ensure there are no ongoing IRS probes, and a signature confirming that no income has come from illegal sources, the IRS grants a conditional approval before even looking at the tax forms.

The agency "is interested in getting these things approved," said Mopsick, who is handling about 30 clients with accounts valued between $1 million and $2 million. "The acceptance letter says you have been conditionally approved for the program; sit tight and an agent will contact you," he said.

Several lawyers involved in the program say many of their clients are immigrants who have inherited the funds.

"The one thing that I'm noticing with some degree of surprise is how ordinary the clients are," Rubinstein said. "The vast majority of our clients are ordinary. We haven't seen many billionaires."

(Reporting by Kim Dixon, editing by Dave Zimmerman)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090914/us_nm/us_ubs_tax_evasion

Now, I know this is all still somewhat circumstantial - but I'm finally willing to go out on a limb and state the obvious.

It appears Julia Renfro, at some point in the recent past, has come into a large enough amount of money to try and hide if from the IRS.

Being a US citizen and all, she IS still accountable to her country's tax laws.


So - what did Renfro do to earn that money, and who did she do it for?

Monday,Monday..... Tax evasion??Who woulda thought Jen3560..

Reckon she got the face lift so she would look better on her mug shot?
Well IMO if She did Someone needs to let Her know She wasted Her money... Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #484 on: September 14, 2009, 06:15:01 PM »



  Monkey Devil!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #485 on: September 14, 2009, 07:39:13 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_62398.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Emergency landing due to smoke in cabin

September 14, 2009, 14:05 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The control tower of Reina Beatrix airport hit in the night from Saturday to Sunday the alarm. An American Airlines plane bound for Miami from Brazil reported "smoke in the cabin" and asked the traffic control for permission for an emergency landing Aruba. This was the tower directly activated the emergency alarm and beaten. The plane landed safely at the airport and was a technical inspection after the prosecution voyage towards Brazil.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #486 on: September 14, 2009, 07:50:31 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_62405.php

Google translation:

"Aruba Dutch European discrimination '

September 14, 2009, 14:16 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY / THE HAGUE - Following the turmoil created by the introduction of the new Alien Admission Policy, the Dutch parliamentarian Hero Brinkman (PVV) Kamervragen made. Brinkman believes that the European Dutch heavily discriminated against by the new system. He expresses his concern about the present situation and asking for clarification Bijleveld.

Sun wants to know whether Brinkman Bijleveld, Secretary of the Interior and Kingdom Relations (CDA) is aware of the article was published Thursday in the Amigoe the Aliens Admission Policy.

He wants clarification on the old system in a calendar year a European Dutchman could stay here up to 180 days, then 30 days elsewhere and then up again 180 days consecutive to Aruba could stay. "How can fairly evaluate this policy change and are you prepared something against it?" Said the concerned Member of Parliament.
Following the fear of reprisals Brinkman wants to know whether Bijleveld thereof and if so whether they will do something against. The PVV also wants a reply from the State Secretary whether the Representation of the Netherlands to Aruba (VNO) is aware and informed view of what is VNO.

Geschooierd money

Brinkman is so that there is discrimination. "Do you agree that it is not right that a country like Aruba, in its entire existence, the Netherlands geschooierd money, then that same Dutch as Dutch European heavy discriminate? "He wondered whether the reverse would also apply. And if that is not the case: "Why should that Aruba or do in our own Dutch and we are not with them?"

Tijs Manten, spokesman for State Secretary Bijleveld may have no response to give Kamervragen. "The first questions should be answered in the House before being made public. He expects that in all likelihood, within the applicable period of three weeks to happen. "Manten can not say whether the state secretary was aware of the change in the Admission Decision Aliens, who unexpectedly made. The information he currently has, he has learned from the media.

The Dutch press has also picked up the story. Sun headlined the Telegraph yesterday: "Aruba is strict. In the article of the Dutch morning paper late Ayesha Engelbrecht, deputy director of Dimas this: "There are now four cases of people who on arrival at the airport that she first heard an authorization to rentiers. They had been 180 days, sometimes contiguous, sometimes not, Aruba was the last twelve months. Among them, an elderly woman who lived here for nine years ", affirms Engelbrecht. "We have been accommodating to them. They were first to their home in Aruba, for example, even just for their dogs to settle things, as they promised in writing within six weeks to arrange the documents. "

Dimas is charged with implementing the National Ordinance on Admission and Expulsion (LTU). She gives, together with other bodies in the chain are foreigners, advice and carry out decisions. In 2006 Aruba and the Netherlands signed a protocol of cooperation agreements are. This protocol was agreed among others that the policy is reviewed regularly by both countries.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #487 on: September 14, 2009, 08:09:36 PM »

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« Reply #488 on: September 14, 2009, 08:14:18 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_62401.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

"More tax on the horizon '

September 14, 2009, 14:07 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - After the signing of tax treaties and agreements last week in France and the Netherlands, Aruba is planning to further expand that number.

The delegation comprising Minister of Finance and Economic Affairs, Nilo Swaen (MEP) and representatives of the Tax Department, is negotiating this week in Belgium and there are negotiations with Great Britain started. Swaen reports that soon the tax agreements with Mexico and Canada are ready.

The purpose of government is primarily by favorable tax conditions and create more transparency on the other hand, to attract more investors. After signing the so-called Tax Information Exchange Agreement (TIEA) with Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Greenland and the Faroe Islands - collectively called the Nordics - and the British Virgin Islands and St. Kitts & Nevis Aruba is on the whitelist OECD or the OECD. This means that our country internationally no longer be regarded as a tax haven.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #489 on: September 14, 2009, 08:15:45 PM »

O/T  A publicist for Patrick Swayze says the "Dirty Dancing" actor has died. For more details, go to abc13.com. [Sent: 7:01pm] 

Thanks hotping.   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #490 on: September 14, 2009, 09:20:30 PM »

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There isn't a movie of his I haven't seen.  He was an amazing actor.  I have watched everything he was in starting with the Civil War (North and South) series. 

May he rest in peace.

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« Reply #491 on: September 14, 2009, 09:33:56 PM »

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There isn't a movie of his I haven't seen.  He was an amazing actor.  I have watched everything he was in starting with the Civil War (North and South) series. 

May he rest in peace.



Same here Blue Moon....loved to hear him sing too...   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfg97-5uhFQ
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #492 on: September 14, 2009, 11:10:46 PM »

Hi Monkeys! 

I hope you won't mind me making a drop off for Hotping. She asked for a Halloween avatar.   


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/HALLOWEEN/hotping.gif

I saw Julia Renho's face as I got here, and thought Halloween was already here!   

 
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« Reply #493 on: September 14, 2009, 11:30:40 PM »

O/T  A publicist for Patrick Swayze says the "Dirty Dancing" actor has died. For more details, go to abc13.com. [Sent: 7:01pm] 


 

There isn't a movie of his I haven't seen.  He was an amazing actor.  I have watched everything he was in starting with the Civil War (North and South) series. 

May he rest in peace.



Hi Monkeys,

As promised - I do still try to read here, I just haven’t been able to follow the crazy twists and turns in this case that brought so many people together. Ergo, I don’t feel I have anything to bring to the table.

I am pretty confident that the Murder & Crime thread put a whammy on Aruba for at least some travel writers. I just came to a point that I didn’t have time to find and attempt to translate the crime articles. texasmom knows how time-consuming that is (she deserves thanks every single day).

Having said that – I do have an observation, and I’m sure all of you have done so as well: It is interesting that Aruba lets the Patrick-Joran tapes exonerate 2K, but won’t buy Joran’s confession on the tapes. I guess Aruba found some legal-techno-mumbo rationale for this arbitrary, selective picking and choosing. It helps, of course, that there’s no physical evidence – and we all know why. So does Aruba.

Re. Patrick Swayze – remember when we were using that line from “Dirty Dancing” here – Nobody puts baby in the corner. (I think we were talking about Beth.)

I have so many good monkey memories from here. (Well, one or two unpleasant ones. I had to step away a few times and take 4,000 deep breaths.)

But what a fun and dedicated group we were, and still are. Just sorry that so many unfortunate divisions and diversions came along.

Eternal gratitude to klaas, who has my greatest respect. Thank you for keeping it all together.
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« Reply #494 on: September 14, 2009, 11:39:38 PM »

O/T  A publicist for Patrick Swayze says the "Dirty Dancing" actor has died. For more details, go to abc13.com. [Sent: 7:01pm] 


 

There isn't a movie of his I haven't seen.  He was an amazing actor.  I have watched everything he was in starting with the Civil War (North and South) series. 

May he rest in peace.



Hi Monkeys,

As promised - I do still try to read here, I just haven’t been able to follow the crazy twists and turns in this case that brought so many people together. Ergo, I don’t feel I have anything to bring to the table.

I am pretty confident that the Murder & Crime thread put a whammy on Aruba for at least some travel writers. I just came to a point that I didn’t have time to find and attempt to translate the crime articles. texasmom knows how time-consuming that is (she deserves thanks every single day).

Having said that – I do have an observation, and I’m sure all of you have done so as well: It is interesting that Aruba lets the Patrick-Joran tapes exonerate 2K, but won’t buy Joran’s confession on the tapes. I guess Aruba found some legal-techno-mumbo rationale for this arbitrary, selective picking and choosing. It helps, of course, that there’s no physical evidence – and we all know why. So does Aruba.

Re. Patrick Swayze – remember when we were using that line from “Dirty Dancing” here – Nobody puts baby in the corner. (I think we were talking about Beth.)

I have so many good monkey memories from here. (Well, one or two unpleasant ones. I had to step away a few times and take 4,000 deep breaths.)

But what a fun and dedicated group we were, and still are. Just sorry that so many unfortunate divisions and diversions came along.

Eternal gratitude to klaas, who has my greatest respect. Thank you for keeping it all together.


No one will put us in the corner, msmarple....and it's always a pleasure to see you here.  We've all had our moments....but it's about Natalee, so that's why we still are here. 

 
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« Reply #495 on: September 14, 2009, 11:44:02 PM »

O/T  A publicist for Patrick Swayze says the "Dirty Dancing" actor has died. For more details, go to abc13.com. [Sent: 7:01pm] 


 

There isn't a movie of his I haven't seen.  He was an amazing actor.  I have watched everything he was in starting with the Civil War (North and South) series. 

May he rest in peace.



Hi Monkeys,

As promised - I do still try to read here, I just haven’t been able to follow the crazy twists and turns in this case that brought so many people together. Ergo, I don’t feel I have anything to bring to the table.

I am pretty confident that the Murder & Crime thread put a whammy on Aruba for at least some travel writers. I just came to a point that I didn’t have time to find and attempt to translate the crime articles. texasmom knows how time-consuming that is (she deserves thanks every single day).

Having said that – I do have an observation, and I’m sure all of you have done so as well: It is interesting that Aruba lets the Patrick-Joran tapes exonerate 2K, but won’t buy Joran’s confession on the tapes. I guess Aruba found some legal-techno-mumbo rationale for this arbitrary, selective picking and choosing. It helps, of course, that there’s no physical evidence – and we all know why. So does Aruba.

Re. Patrick Swayze – remember when we were using that line from “Dirty Dancing” here – Nobody puts baby in the corner. (I think we were talking about Beth.)

I have so many good monkey memories from here. (Well, one or two unpleasant ones. I had to step away a few times and take 4,000 deep breaths.)

But what a fun and dedicated group we were, and still are. Just sorry that so many unfortunate divisions and diversions came along.

Eternal gratitude to klaas, who has my greatest respect. Thank you for keeping it all together.


Hi msmarple!  RE: bolded above....As always...great observation!   

You are missed, I hope you have the time...and come share your observations more often!

I know one thing for certain from spending time in the Murder and Crime thread....YOU can never be thanked enough for all you've done!

Thank you!   

and I agree Klaas...well she's simply amazing!   an angelic monkey
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #497 on: September 15, 2009, 12:05:13 AM »

Yes, all the mods are great; can't say enough abut them.

And OMG, some of these avitars! Whacky works of art!

Does anyone else having trouble typing posts these days? Text is lagging way behind my typing speed. I think it might be the dazzling array of emoticons. (I know, nit picking ... just wondered if anyone else noticed.)
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« Reply #498 on: September 15, 2009, 12:16:14 AM »

Yes, all the mods are great; can't say enough abut them.

And OMG, some of these avitars! Whacky works of art!

Does anyone else having trouble typing posts these days? Text is lagging way behind my typing speed. I think it might be the dazzling array of emoticons. (I know, nit picking ... just wondered if anyone else noticed.)

Hey MsMarple,
I think your problem is your settings.  Wreck told me how to fix it.
Go to TOOLS in the upper right corner of your screen and click on compatability....but I forgot the rest of it.
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« Reply #499 on: September 15, 2009, 12:24:27 AM »

Hi Monkeys! 

I hope you won't mind me making a drop off for Hotping. She asked for a Halloween avatar.   


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/HALLOWEEN/hotping.gif

I saw Julia Renho's face as I got here, and thought Halloween was already here!   

 

Oooooohhhh, CBB that's going to scare Hotping.
Is that Mrs. Haversham drifting by?
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