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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #550 11/28 - 11/29/2006  (Read 114611 times)
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« Reply #580 on: November 29, 2006, 09:51:27 PM »

Evening all ~!!  Smile

Klaas. can you please check your email.. TY..  the C one!
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« Reply #581 on: November 29, 2006, 09:52:18 PM »

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well the 1st line discredits the whole thing for me as it was impossible for Joran to have been picked up at 11:00 at McDonalds.


Remember, right at the very first we heard that Paulus told Beth : " I picked THEM up at 4 a.m." And then several days later, after having scrutinized, he changed it to 11 p.m.



joran got home

turned on the PORN to GIVE himself an alibi

went back out to get rid of natalee

was out till 4......

missed school the next day

simple as pie

I am inclined to believe that. Since when is porn an alibi ?
What if Joran used a pay phone land line to call the house ? Unless there were toll charges, no record.
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« Reply #582 on: November 29, 2006, 09:53:01 PM »

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Well, Anna, we are quick to forget that being American means we could be from anywhere.  Yes, I have those half-Dutch children, but when they are bad, I know they are much Dutch than Brit!  I tell them that, too. Laughing  Laughing  Laughing   I say, "You are just like your daddy."  I never call him "Tater Head" to his face, however.


 Laughing I have quarter-Dutch children but stress their maternal Scottish & Brit genes.  Laughing Actally, "Tater-Head" aptly describes former mother-in-law. Laughing


I think one of the biggest problems facing this country now and even more in the future is all the people who are born and raised here but still think of themselves as being from another country.

Irag and several countries around the world are fighting and dividing over 'sectarian/ethinic' lines.

I can see the same occuring here and causing much pain and division.


Carnut: Studying & learning one's genealogical historical heritage is a good thing.


I'm sure it's a nice hobby, just like the study of history in general, but that's not what I'm talking about.


I think Carnut is referring to "balkanizing" the USA by separating ourselves into ethnic groups and becoming hyphenated Americans instead of "Americans."  Those of us born here who pay the taxes and preserve the country, "we are the native Americans" and we should not hyphenate our names to reflect otherwise???? Wink


I take it that Carnut is asking us to ignore our own family heritage for the sake of his ideas of political correctness/rightousness. My first ancestors to settle here in the Colonies came to Jamestowne in 1609 and I daresay I can certainly remeber and study my history.
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« Reply #583 on: November 29, 2006, 09:56:46 PM »

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Wonder what the Sloots think about this whole new interest in showing the world that they murdered Natalee Hollaway.
Gotta wonder, thinking back to March - April when DumPig produce his theory that Natalee OD'd on her own. I'm sure they were thinking this will finally go away.  But they still had the Civil Suit hanging over their heads. Then that went away.
Now VanDries has brought the whole case back to boil, and I can't help but wonder what the VanDerSloots are feeling now.  
This is a nightmare to them that won't go away.


As well it should be. Because of them, Natalee and her family have had to suffer hell on earth.
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« Reply #584 on: November 29, 2006, 10:00:45 PM »

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Question Question????

This hearing tomorrow is it to request release of just the kalpoes
or all 3 boys???


Depends upon who you ask.   Medleyrelay seems fairly certain it's all 3.  I've never seen anything official that includes Joran though.



I thought for sure when David Kock was on Dana's show it was just the
Kalpoe boys trying to be released
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Joran, Deepak & Satish You F***ers will never be worth anything in your life ever
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« Reply #585 on: November 29, 2006, 10:01:56 PM »

There is also the uncertainty of the Dutch Police. Will they find something ? How bad will it be if they find something. But, there is no smoking gun. Unless, she is found. At this point, can't someone find a way to let the family bring her back ?
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« Reply #586 on: November 29, 2006, 10:03:50 PM »

That was my understanding also Sue, just the K-shit brothers.
I guess no one is going to have a come to Jesus moment .
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« Reply #587 on: November 29, 2006, 10:06:24 PM »

IMO.... The Simian/Shango post points to Freddy....
It was not the Kalpoes that Joran got a ride with...He ran into Freddy & "someone" & knew he needed to get home to get himself an alibi eventually...
i.e. The sighting of a light colored car at the Racquet Club...With Joran in the driver's seat & 2 dark males with him. The car was ID'd as having round red brake lights with clear covers... Confused

Freddy & his best friend

Gregory's car

Gregory & g/f DJ'ing at Sasha's party

First, we heard Freddy spent the night at Joran's...Then the alibi was a family gathering in Curacao..... Confused

"Freddy needs to tell the truth"
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« Reply #588 on: November 29, 2006, 10:09:25 PM »

Fox6 News Birmingham

The story was about Carlo having information about what Joran knew about Natalee.  Dave Holloway says that "somedays you will finally break the case and then somedays you wonder if we will ever found out what happened."  

That was about it.  Nothing we didn't know.
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« Reply #589 on: November 29, 2006, 10:10:02 PM »

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Hey Monkeys....doing a quick drop by to see if anyone has the link for lighting candles site?  TIA.

anybody?
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« Reply #590 on: November 29, 2006, 10:11:36 PM »

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Hey Monkeys....doing a quick drop by to see if anyone has the link for lighting candles site?  TIA.

anybody?


Sorry crazymom.  I don't know.  Just didn't want you to think you are being ignored.
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« Reply #591 on: November 29, 2006, 10:13:10 PM »

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Hey Monkeys....doing a quick drop by to see if anyone has the link for lighting candles site?  TIA.

anybody?

Here you go.  Yap had it.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng
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« Reply #592 on: November 29, 2006, 10:15:25 PM »

Another Candles Link
http://i.euniverse.com/funpages/cms_content/2529/4candles.swf
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« Reply #593 on: November 29, 2006, 10:16:21 PM »

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Fox6 News Birmingham

The story was about Carlo having information about what Joran knew about Natalee.  Dave Holloway says that "somedays you will finally break the case and then somedays you wonder if we will ever found out what happened."  

That was about it.  Nothing we didn't know.

Thanks Lala's
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« Reply #594 on: November 29, 2006, 10:18:30 PM »

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Fox6 News Birmingham

The story was about Carlo having information about what Joran knew about Natalee.  Dave Holloway says that "somedays you will finally break the case and then somedays you wonder if we will ever found out what happened."  

That was about it.  Nothing we didn't know.


Heh, kinda like Beth said last night, everyone in the aruban Justice system knows what happened or they wouldn't be covering it up.
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« Reply #595 on: November 29, 2006, 10:19:06 PM »

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Hey Monkeys....doing a quick drop by to see if anyone has the link for lighting candles site?  TIA.

anybody?

Here you go.  Yap had it.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng


Yap was hogging it all to herself?! Shocked  Bad monkey!   Wink

No ciggies today!
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« Reply #596 on: November 29, 2006, 10:20:41 PM »

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Hey Monkeys....doing a quick drop by to see if anyone has the link for lighting candles site?  TIA.

anybody?

Here you go.  Yap had it.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng


Yap was hogging it all to herself?! Shocked  Bad monkey!   Wink

No ciggies today!

Congrats justins.  Keep it up.
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History repeats itself. It's a cyclical beast.


« Reply #597 on: November 29, 2006, 10:20:45 PM »

Something I picked up going after the Joran, Deepak, Satish
secret recording last night.

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Joran: The security guards guarantee me that they are going to
          kill you when they get out.

Deepak: Oh, yes.



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Is Joran letting us know here that he had communications with
the security guards? In KIA, through Antonio Carlo? Question

How would Joran be able to communicate with the security
guards?
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For Natalee and Stephany, whatever it takes.

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« Reply #598 on: November 29, 2006, 10:20:54 PM »

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Hey Monkeys....doing a quick drop by to see if anyone has the link for lighting candles site?  TIA.

anybody?

Here you go.  Yap had it.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng


Yap was hogging it all to herself?! Shocked  Bad monkey!   Wink

No ciggies today!


Heh, heh, congratulations whether you like it or not.
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« Reply #599 on: November 29, 2006, 10:22:31 PM »

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Something I picked up going after the Joran, Deepak, Satish
secret recording last night.

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Joran: The security guards guarantee me that they are going to
          kill you when they get out.

Deepak: Oh, yes.

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Is Joran letting us know here that he had communications with
the security guards? In KIA, through Antonio Carlo? Question

How would Joran be able to communicate with the security
guards?


Heh, heh are you seriously asking that question?
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