Lively Case Discussion #550 11/28 - 11/29/2006

[San]

Greta will have coverage tonight.

[crazybabyborg]

Natalee Case will be on Greta after the next segment

[Kat_Gram]

IMO.... The Simian/Shango post points to Freddy....
It was not the Kalpoes that Joran got a ride with...He ran into Freddy & "someone" & knew he needed to get home to get himself an alibi eventually...
i.e. The sighting of a light colored car at the Racquet Club...With Joran in the driver's seat & 2 dark males with him. The car was ID'd as having round red brake lights with clear covers...

Freddy & his best friend

Gregory's car

Gregory & g/f DJ'ing at Sasha's party

First, we heard Freddy spent the night at Joran's...Then the alibi was a family gathering in Curacao.....

"Freddy needs to tell the truth"

My guess is Guido as for running into.

[klaasend]

Coming up after the break on Greta - more breaking developements, about K2.

[justinsmama]

BT
Hi there little doggie!  I am not sure I want to explain it at this time...not because I don't understand what he means, but because the answer tends to open a can of worms each time it is discussed.  Let me think about it. I just don't want to travel this road again with the same result.

How about starting a thread about it?

What's wrong with Mrs.' folks?

[Kat_Gram]

Justins Mama... No cigs ! Whoo Hoo And I mean that ! !

[sb]

The Greta coverage is likely to just be a reminder of the hearing tomorrow.

Right now the DeVries front is our best hope. He has made more headway than anything else in the last 6 months.

[crazymom]

Thanks for all the links.  Someone wanted to light a candle for Jaycee and her sisters.  If you would like to light one for them here is the link:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=JRH

Thanks all you wonderful monkeys.  I will be back in a couple of hours.

[Kat_Gram]

Guess, David Kock on the phone. He expects them to be released from suspicion. No case against them.

[Kat_Gram]

The Greta coverage is likely to just be a reminder of the hearing tomorrow.

Right now the DeVries front is our best hope. He has made more headway than anything else in the last 6 months.

He seems to be motivated to solve and expose. The others are motivated to cover up and lie.

[GabbyG]

Imette St Guillen Case

NYPD blowtorched the plumbing out of Littlejohn's home for forensic examination.  They ripped up the floorboards, tore out the walls and sheetrock.

Of course they confiscated all the linens and laundry, all the plumbing traps, all the clothing -- everything.  

NYPD knew this was the guy, and they were gonna nail him.  And they did.

What happened at 19 Montana?

Just askin'.

Wow...way to say it Hammer...WTG!!  Gives rise to many questions doesnt it....

[bleachedblack]

Dropped by to say hi, caught up on the reading, was here earlier. Memphis you look adorable in your Christmas finery, I forgot to tell you earlier. Glad everyone seems to be doing well here tonight.....

[Carnut]

Imette St Guillen Case

NYPD blowtorched the plumbing out of Littlejohn's home for forensic examination.  They ripped up the floorboards, tore out the walls and sheetrock.

Of course they confiscated all the linens and laundry, all the plumbing traps, all the clothing -- everything.  

NYPD knew this was the guy, and they were gonna nail him.  And they did.

What happened at 19 Montana?

Just askin'.

Wow...way to say it Hammer...WTG!!  Gives rise to many questions doesnt it....

Kinda shows a difference in investigative technique between NYPD and ALE  Clown force.

[Anna]

Imette St Guillen Case

NYPD blowtorched the plumbing out of Littlejohn's home for forensic examination.  They ripped up the floorboards, tore out the walls and sheetrock.

Of course they confiscated all the linens and laundry, all the plumbing traps, all the clothing -- everything.  

NYPD knew this was the guy, and they were gonna nail him.  And they did.

What happened at 19 Montana?

Just askin'.

Wow...way to say it Hammer...WTG!!  Gives rise to many questions doesnt it....

And representing the family of the victim in this would be???  Compare and contrast what happened at the apartment only of his other client.
Basically nothing.  A show in bunny suits for the cameras was about all.

So it isn't as though Joey T doesn't know what a proper search consists of.

Whoever blocked that search should be charged with obstruction of justice and prosecuted.  Witt and Ben King seem two culpable at least.

.

[carpe noctem]

Aruba has squandered any iota of credibility
capital that they possibly had to spend.

From ODUBER

Right down to that lying sack of SH —

Joran’s mother - Anita Van der Sloot.

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Thursday, June 23, 2005- On the Record
ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: So I spoke
with him (Joran) about these
things and just told him to stay
strong and to TELL THE TRUTH.

——————

On June 24th 2005, at approximately 10.00 hours,
There we, the reporting officers, were informed the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT refused to go with us… that his mother and his lawyer had advised him on behalf of his father to NOT MAKE any more statements and to invoke his right to not make statements.

————-

On FOX, Anita confides in Greta that she’s telling the SPORTER to tell the truth.

When we research what is really going on behind the scenes… she’s funneling
messages to Joran from Paulus
and Antonio Carlo. She is
advising the sporter
to shut his effin trap.

Quick Links:

FOX - GRETA ON THE RECORD
Thursday, June 23, 2005

http://tinyurl.com/czdyw

Joran ALE Statement 6/24/2005

http://tinyurl.com/yd3jt7

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De Vries, are u looking at this????

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UN-BELIEVABLE!

Justice 4 Natalee
Ann Holloway !

FOX - GRETA ( INTERVIEW - ANITA )

VAN SUSTEREN: When you meet with him, do you have a time limit?

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: I have a time limit, yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: And who’s present?

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: With somebody, some of the officers is there, or the guards. AND IF I TALK ABOUT THE CASE, I CAN LEAVE.

Anita goes on to says she is telling Joran to tell the truth.

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6/24/2005 JORAN ALE Statements

snip it - (full link above)

- that he wouldn’t come with us today because his mother would be visiting him at 14.00 hours that day

- that if he gets a visit from his mother he would discuss making another statement WITH HER.

- that only if his father, by way of his lawyer would say he should make a statement he would do so!!!!!!! ?????????

- that he was waiting for the statement of his father and after that make another statement.

Of this, we, the reporting officers, on our oath of office, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 24th 2005.

The reporting officers,

S.A. TROMP M.A.G. R

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THE MURDEROUS RAPING
VAN DER SLOOTS LIE…
AND THAT IS THE TRUTH!
IT IS FAMILY TRADITION.

Justice 4 Natalee Holloway!!!

[msmarple]

I posted this earlier today - anybody on this shift who can help?

Someone help me out with this - For Natalee's yearbook, to accompany her class picture, she chose some lines from "Freebird". I *think* these are the lines - did she use all 4 of these? Anybody know FOR SURE?

If I leave here tomorrow
Would you still remember me?
For I must be travelling on, now,
'Cause there's too many places I've got to see.  

Thanks. (Another project I'm working on ... )

[bleachedblack]

I thought the hearing tomorrow was for the 2K's but I now read a posting that Joran has a court date also. Posted by Debbie at BFN.....

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Suspects Hearing - November 30, 2006

Thursday, November 30th is the day the Kalpoe's go to court to ask to be cleared as suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.  I also hear that Joran has a hearing for the same purpose tomorrow.

I am hoping that since the Dutch Investigative Team has not made any of their finding known that the court will see the importance of not removing them as suspects at this time.

Please post your thoughts here and post any info you hear or read in this topic.

Thanks!

[Kat_Gram]

Whoever blocked that search should be charged with obstruction of justice and prosecuted. Witt and Ben King seem two culpable at least.
I think there was a disagreement about the wording of the search warrant
at the Sloot Sty. KJ did the search warant ? Did she just cave ? Or giggle and blush ?

[San]

Jossy said they are going to court to be released as suspects.  They feel uncomfortable about that.

Karin Janssen will be there.

Jossy said they shouldn't be released.  They have until two years before they are released.

[sb]

You know, something I just thought of:

Beth basically says that ALL of ALE is involved. Events seem to be bearing that out.

It is one GREAT BIG UGLY THING that all those people are afraid of, in that NO ONE has cracked and claimed any reward $$$ or even hinted that they do know anything. In a situation like this, SOMEONE breaks ranks. Every time. But not here. There is no Frank Serpico to blow the whistle.

Tells you sort of indirectly, how ugly this thing is.