Lively Case Discussion #550 11/28 - 11/29/2006

[Anna]

[I think this is him.

I think that is him, too, at least that is who I have in mind as Guido's father.  Tyler did not respond but very early scubajap said he also was in charge of the landfill so again we have conflict of interest with his preventing it from being searched.

[robots]

[I think this is him.

I think that is him, too, at least that is who I have in mind as Guido's father.  Tyler did not respond but very early scubajap said he also was in charge of the landfill so again we have conflict of interest with his preventing it from being searched.

 

ohhh geeeeesh

i hate them all more each day

[Kat_Gram]

Robots, Joran was gambling with Guido the next night, Monday.
PVDS ( isn't it funny how his name keeps popping up ) asked Joran for Guido's phone number as he wanted to check on the $$$$$$$ won, cause he needed to check it out. My source... the PV's.
Guido is / was an very accomplished tennis player and that is where the connection to  Joran is.

[robots]

Robots, Joran was gambling with Guido the next night, Monday.
PVDS ( isn't it funny how his name keeps popping up ) asked Joran for Guido's phone number as he wanted to check on the $$$$$$$ won, cause he needed to check it out. My source... the PV's.
Guido is / was an very accomplished tennis player and that is where the connection to  Joran is.

GUIDO cant get away from this MESS

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

GUIDO knows the story

 

[robots]

Robots, Joran was gambling with Guido the next night, Monday.
PVDS ( isn't it funny how his name keeps popping up ) asked Joran for Guido's phone number as he wanted to check on the $$$$$$$ won, cause he needed to check it out. My source... the PV's.
Guido is / was an very accomplished tennis player and that is where the connection to  Joran is.

and the only prrof we have that he is gay ( which may have been a way to disguise the whole situation ) was from the lawyer...

lawyers always tell the truth        


hmmmmmmmm..............

so, joran is hangin out with guido who is gay ?????

[Anna]

Robots, Joran was gambling with Guido the next night, Monday.
PVDS ( isn't it funny how his name keeps popping up ) asked Joran for Guido's phone number as he wanted to check on the $$$$$$$ won, cause he needed to check it out. My source... the PV's.
Guido is / was an very accomplished tennis player and that is where the connection to  Joran is.

Guido was also doing the internship at the Excelsior Casino.  Since he was in school through the week, perhaps he was working there on Sunday when the MB girls and Joran were in the casino.

Have never heard one way or the other if he was.  Tito just said he got out of Dodge immediately without finishing his school year and leaving his new car, etc.

Huuumm, new car, robots.

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[robots]

Robots, Joran was gambling with Guido the next night, Monday.
PVDS ( isn't it funny how his name keeps popping up ) asked Joran for Guido's phone number as he wanted to check on the $$$$$$$ won, cause he needed to check it out. My source... the PV's.
Guido is / was an very accomplished tennis player and that is where the connection to  Joran is.

Guido was also doing the internship at the Excelsior Casino.  Since he was in school through the week, perhaps he was working there on Sunday when the MB girls and Joran were in the casino.

Have never heard one way or the other if he was.  Tito just said he got out of Dodge immediately without finishing his school year and leaving his new car, etc.

Huuumm, new car, robots.

.

hmmmmmmm

[robots]

guido is the LINK

bet the FARM

[klaasend]

Robots, Joran was gambling with Guido the next night, Monday.
PVDS ( isn't it funny how his name keeps popping up ) asked Joran for Guido's phone number as he wanted to check on the $$$$$$$ won, cause he needed to check it out. My source... the PV's.
Guido is / was an very accomplished tennis player and that is where the connection to  Joran is.

Guido was also doing the internship at the Excelsior Casino.  Since he was in school through the week, perhaps he was working there on Sunday when the MB girls and Joran were in the casino.

Have never heard one way or the other if he was.  Tito just said he got out of Dodge immediately without finishing his school year and leaving his new car, etc.

Huuumm, new car, robots.

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Leaving his new WHITE car  

[msmarple]

Thank you bleached - I have the book, but didn't remember that he had included the yearbook quote.

You are welcome msmarple anytime....anything to help with the work you do. You do a great job!

bleached & other Monkeys -

I thank you for that, but I have to say that writing and organizing information is something I can do. Getting responses to my letters is another matter.

I haven't gotten any response from the State Dept. or any of the Alabama politicos. (Well, my initial letter to the Consul Gen. in Curacao got a reply; he did tell me where to send my material.) Not even a form reply.

I have a feeling that in terms of the Alabama folks, it might have helped if I had an Alabama address. Maybe some of you from Alabama could help with postal letters and emails? There are several letters in the M&C thread you could use as models. And the addresses I used are there, too - although Congress was in session at the time and I used their Washington addresses.

(See page 6 for those addresses. I especially like the letter on page 7 to the travel agents, because by then we had the FBI U.S. Murder statistics.)  

Also didn't get a response from Gov. Riley.

And I have another question: Does anybody know what really happened with Bachus and his apparent 180-degree turn? I guess I'm wondering if this "official cold shoulder" has the same cause?

I have quite a few other letters out there, but I've decided not to post unless/until I get results.

Anna & I thank all of you who have been so great about posting things on M&C. It's up to 10 pages, and it's grim information indeed. I wouldn't wish a trip to Aruba on my worst enemy.

[Lala'sMom]

Who has the power in Aruba?  It would be the Sloots...they are the ones that are guilty, yet the ENTIRE island has catered to their every wish.  If the power did not lie at their feet, then Joran would be toast.   PVDS knows all the secrets of everyone else on Aruba and he's kept meticulous notes and those in authority fear what he knows and how it can be used.

Yeah, but just wonder is it all baseed on PVDS blackmail threats or does he also have some soprano power as well.

If you look at what the Sloots actually do have, then one comes up short in that category.  Living in a modest house in the area he does leaves me wondering what he knows that affords him such freedom on the island.  Had this been anyone else's son they would be in KIA now.  It's what he KNOWS that keeps him in power.  Shango told us...but no one listens...want me to prove it?  

[Kat_Gram]

So, if DeVries thinks it happened at the house, maybe two ppl got a ride to the Sloot Sty. ???
Something bad happened at the Sloot place after J and N were dropped off. Or maybe Guido went in ? Or Freddy ? Who knows. He got home somehow.
In the garden, around the pool. While she's trying to escape. Panic.
Put porn video in. Leave, come back and start the cover up and lies.

[robots]

guido guido guido ........im on a new hunt

GUIDO.......

is up to his neck in this

[vms]

Guido's father is Robert Wever...


http://www.solodipueblo.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=487&Itemid=2

[Carnut]

Who has the power in Aruba?  It would be the Sloots...they are the ones that are guilty, yet the ENTIRE island has catered to their every wish.  If the power did not lie at their feet, then Joran would be toast.   PVDS knows all the secrets of everyone else on Aruba and he's kept meticulous notes and those in authority fear what he knows and how it can be used.

Yeah, but just wonder is it all baseed on PVDS blackmail threats or does he also have some soprano power as well.

If you look at what the Sloots actually do have, then one comes up short in that category.  Living in a modest house in the area he does leaves me wondering what he knows that affords him such freedom on the island.  Had this been anyone else's son they would be in KIA now.  It's what he KNOWS that keeps him in power.  Shango told us...but no one listens...want me to prove it?  

I'll pass.

[Lala'sMom]

ok, im going with JORAN got the ride home with GUIDO

wanted everone to think K2 gave him one because he did not want to implicate GUIDO

Very good observation...it would be about the right time for Guido to come along after he got off work in the wee hours.  He could easily have seen him or maybe Joran called him to swing by the beach and pick him up.  He didn't necessarily need to tell Guido what had happened, just that he needed a ride.

[memphis]

Dropped by to say hi, caught up on the reading, was here earlier. Memphis you look adorable in your Christmas finery, I forgot to tell you earlier. Glad everyone seems to be doing well here tonight.....

Thank you very much bb. Klaas did my hair.  

[Kat_Gram]

There are no pictures of Guido and Joran hanging out like guys.
Friends from tennis. Guido , didn't he give lessons ? Joran is / was a good tennis player, not as good as Guido, who represented Aruba in 2004.

[robots]

ok, im going with JORAN got the ride home with GUIDO

wanted everone to think K2 gave him one because he did not want to implicate GUIDO

Very good observation...it would be about the right time for Guido to come along after he got off work in the wee hours.  He could easily have seen him or maybe Joran called him to swing by the beach and pick him up.  He didn't necessarily need to tell Guido what had happened, just that he needed a ride.

yep

guido is the one...imo

[Carnut]

Who has the power in Aruba?  It would be the Sloots...they are the ones that are guilty, yet the ENTIRE island has catered to their every wish.  If the power did not lie at their feet, then Joran would be toast.   PVDS knows all the secrets of everyone else on Aruba and he's kept meticulous notes and those in authority fear what he knows and how it can be used.

Yeah, but just wonder is it all baseed on PVDS blackmail threats or does he also have some soprano power as well.

If you look at what the Sloots actually do have, then one comes up short in that category.  Living in a modest house in the area he does leaves me wondering what he knows that affords him such freedom on the island.  Had this been anyone else's son they would be in KIA now.  It's what he KNOWS that keeps him in power.  Shango told us...but no one listens...want me to prove it?  

Actually from what history of the mob that I've seen, most mob boss's appeared to live in modest acommodations.