Caylee Marie Anthony # 145 8/24/09 - 9/4/09

[DonFL]

Thanks cece...... set a trial date......uummmm based on the attorney's schedules.....   betch Lyons is gonna try to stall, stall, stall

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why would a DP try a fraud charge, im sure or i hope strickland will say bozo can handle this one....not the entire death team. I mean if bozo has time to put his mug on tv, then he has time to try this case, it looks pretty cut and dry with video and receipts, all of it.

Hi monkeys.  I haven't posted in a while but have been lurking.  I think that Bozo will most likely try to plea bargain this one.  I could be wrong but I don't think he want her to open her mouth at all.

 

Wouldn't she just plead guilty? Baez has already admitted Casey is guilty - he sent checks reimbursing Amy for what was stolen.   

She already pleaded not guilty.  That's why the trial.  I think they will try to bargain

[A_News_Junkie_Monkey]

I am probably wrong but am going to through this out anyway....hell I have been wrong before and will be again!  However, I thought when an out of state attorney was approved to practice in another state is was for one trial.....one case.....if this is true wouldn't lyons have to get approved to represent kc in the fraud case??

I do not know.I am in hair world.   

    Hair World!!!   


Sunny, That sounds right to me, but I'm hoping one of our smart Monkeys will give us the scoop on this. 
Since the two cases somewhat overlap (in my mind) I guess she may be on the look out for anything in the check fraud that would have an affect on the murder trial?  Just a guess from me.

I am not a smart monkey, but I think she would have to submit a pro hac vice request for the civil case and notice of qualifications.  She has been granted pro hac vice in the capital case only, as far as I have heard.

That's what I thought and wondered why JS didn't mention that to her when she was flapping her mouth about taking time away from the murder case to work on the fraud case.

I knew you were gonna male me go to  the darn law dictionary!!

pro hac vice
    (proh-hock-vee-chay) Latin meaning "for this one particular occasion." The phrase usually refers to an out-of-state lawyer who has been granted special permission to participate in a particular case, even though the lawyer is not licensed to practice in the state where the case is being tried.

Sorry    But do I get half credit for narrowing down the term for you? LOL         

[A_News_Junkie_Monkey]

9/3/2009     A     NOTICE OF INTENT TO RELY UPON BUSINESS RECORD CERTIFICATION

9/3/2009    A    TRANSCRIPT FILED HEARING ON AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL BEFORE HON. STAN STRICKLAND 03/12/09

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CriminalSelect.aspx?SessionID=f0f09083-f529-4900-ad06-ed86a9c4a9c7

Trimm, could you explain what these mean?  I have such a hard time understanding this court info.  Thanks.

This is an educated guess based on my limited knowledge.
First one is a heads up that a motion is going to be filed to supply a business record and or certification of one.  ??????? Maybe the Tony P original document or related.   Do we know who these were from Baez or State?

Second one I believe is just that A transcript was filed on the hearing in March re the:  AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL

[SunnyinTX]

I am not a smart monkey, but I think she would have to submit a pro hac vice request for the civil case and notice of qualifications.  She has been granted pro hac vice in the capital case only, as far as I have heard.

That's what I thought and wondered why JS didn't mention that to her when she was flapping her mouth about taking time away from the murder case to work on the fraud case.

I knew you were gonna male me go to  the darn law dictionary!!

pro hac vice
    (proh-hock-vee-chay) Latin meaning "for this one particular occasion." The phrase usually refers to an out-of-state lawyer who has been granted special permission to participate in a particular case, even though the lawyer is not licensed to practice in the state where the case is being tried.

Sorry    But do I get half credit for narrowing down the term for you? LOL         
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LOL....OK...if you insist!  And BTW you are one SMART MONKEY!!!

[trimmonthelake]

9/3/2009     A     NOTICE OF INTENT TO RELY UPON BUSINESS RECORD CERTIFICATION

9/3/2009    A    TRANSCRIPT FILED HEARING ON AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL BEFORE HON. STAN STRICKLAND 03/12/09

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CriminalSelect.aspx?SessionID=f0f09083-f529-4900-ad06-ed86a9c4a9c7

Trimm, could you explain what these mean?  I have such a hard time understanding this court info.  Thanks.

This is an educated guess based on my limited knowledge.
First one is a heads up that a motion is going to be filed to supply a business record and or certification of one.  ??????? Maybe the Tony P original document or related.   Do we know who these were from Baez or State?

Second one I believe is just that A transcript was filed on the hearing in March re the:  AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL

Thanks ANJ.   

[trimmonthelake]

9/3/2009     A     NOTICE OF INTENT TO RELY UPON BUSINESS RECORD CERTIFICATION

9/3/2009    A    TRANSCRIPT FILED HEARING ON AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL BEFORE HON. STAN STRICKLAND 03/12/09

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CriminalSelect.aspx?SessionID=f0f09083-f529-4900-ad06-ed86a9c4a9c7

Trimm, could you explain what these mean?  I have such a hard time understanding this court info.  Thanks.

I just saw you post a couple of minutes ago......ANJ answered.     

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/3/delay_for_anthony39s_check_fraud_trial_denied.html
 Delay For Casey's Check Fraud Trial Denied
Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:50:23 PM
Reported By Nick VinZant

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony’s defense team learns Casey's check fraud trial will not be put on hold until her murder trial was over.

Orange County Judge Stan Strickland ruled Thursday Casey will have to face check fraud charges before her murder trial.

Her defense tried to fight the motion but prosecutors won the day by arguing the victim wanted swift justice.

Legal experts said something else may be at work.

To win a death penalty case, prosecutors need aggravating circumstances, one of which is a previous felony.

"They want to do it so they can have an aggravating circumstances,” said Cheney Mason, a defense attorney. “If they get a conviction, they can pursue the death penalty, the statute requires the state proving aggravating circumstances."
Anthony is accused of stealing more than $700 from her friend and spending it at a local Target.

More documents in the case against Casey are scheduled to be released Friday.

[Sassycat]

Thanks cece...... set a trial date......uummmm based on the attorney's schedules.....   betch Lyons is gonna try to stall, stall, stall

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why would a DP try a fraud charge, im sure or i hope strickland will say bozo can handle this one....not the entire death team. I mean if bozo has time to put his mug on tv, then he has time to try this case, it looks pretty cut and dry with video and receipts, all of it.

Hi monkeys.  I haven't posted in a while but have been lurking.  I think that Bozo will most likely try to plea bargain this one.  I could be wrong but I don't think he want her to open her mouth at all.

 

Wouldn't she just plead guilty? Baez has already admitted Casey is guilty - he sent checks reimbursing Amy for what was stolen.   

She already pleaded not guilty.  That's why the trial.  I think they will try to bargain

But, if they go to trial, then all the evidence will be documented in this fraud case and then it can be used during the murder trial.   The evidence showing that KC was out forging checks and not buying a single thing for Caylee.    I think they screwed up when they plead not guilty in the first place.   Maybe the state will not accept a plea at this point.   I say go to trial and get all the evidence documented!    Any thoughts?

[SunnyinTX]

Thanks cece...... set a trial date......uummmm based on the attorney's schedules.....   betch Lyons is gonna try to stall, stall, stall

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why would a DP try a fraud charge, im sure or i hope strickland will say bozo can handle this one....not the entire death team. I mean if bozo has time to put his mug on tv, then he has time to try this case, it looks pretty cut and dry with video and receipts, all of it.

Hi monkeys.  I haven't posted in a while but have been lurking.  I think that Bozo will most likely try to plea bargain this one.  I could be wrong but I don't think he want her to open her mouth at all.

 

Wouldn't she just plead guilty? Baez has already admitted Casey is guilty - he sent checks reimbursing Amy for what was stolen.   

She already pleaded not guilty.  That's why the trial.  I think they will try to bargain

But, if they go to trial, then all the evidence will be documented in this fraud case and then it can be used during the murder trial.   The evidence showing that KC was out forging checks and not buying a single thing for Caylee.    I think they screwed up when they plead not guilty in the first place.   Maybe the state will not accept a plea at this point.   I say go to trial and get all the evidence documented!    Any thoughts?

Sassy...I have a feeling the state will not accept a plea in this case And I hope JS gives her the maximum that he can.

[Gizzie]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/3/delay_for_anthony39s_check_fraud_trial_denied.html
 Delay For Casey's Check Fraud Trial Denied
Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:50:23 PM
Reported By Nick VinZant

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony’s defense team learns Casey's check fraud trial will not be put on hold until her murder trial was over.

Orange County Judge Stan Strickland ruled Thursday Casey will have to face check fraud charges before her murder trial.

Her defense tried to fight the motion but prosecutors won the day by arguing the victim wanted swift justice.

Legal experts said something else may be at work.

To win a death penalty case, prosecutors need aggravating circumstances, one of which is a previous felony.

"They want to do it so they can have an aggravating circumstances,” said Cheney Mason, a defense attorney. “If they get a conviction, they can pursue the death penalty, the statute requires the state proving aggravating circumstances."
Anthony is accused of stealing more than $700 from her friend and spending it at a local Target.

More documents in the case against Casey are scheduled to be released Friday.

Anybody else think this may encourage the "dream team" to maybe start considering a plea? For sure she will be found guilty on the fraud charges, which Baez may have been counting on this trial to happen after the murder trial.

Too bad , so sad! Shoulda taken that plea when you had the chance! 

[Sassycat]

Thanks cece...... set a trial date......uummmm based on the attorney's schedules.....   betch Lyons is gonna try to stall, stall, stall

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why would a DP try a fraud charge, im sure or i hope strickland will say bozo can handle this one....not the entire death team. I mean if bozo has time to put his mug on tv, then he has time to try this case, it looks pretty cut and dry with video and receipts, all of it.

Hi monkeys.  I haven't posted in a while but have been lurking.  I think that Bozo will most likely try to plea bargain this one.  I could be wrong but I don't think he want her to open her mouth at all.

 

Wouldn't she just plead guilty? Baez has already admitted Casey is guilty - he sent checks reimbursing Amy for what was stolen.   

She already pleaded not guilty.  That's why the trial.  I think they will try to bargain

But, if they go to trial, then all the evidence will be documented in this fraud case and then it can be used during the murder trial.   The evidence showing that KC was out forging checks and not buying a single thing for Caylee.    I think they screwed up when they plead not guilty in the first place.   Maybe the state will not accept a plea at this point.   I say go to trial and get all the evidence documented!    Any thoughts?

Sassy...I have a feeling the state will not accept a plea in this case And I hope JS gives her the maximum that he can.

Me too, Sunny.     THE MAXIMUM!       

[SunnyinTX]

Tomorrow is DOCUMENT DAY!!

[Gizzie]

But, if they go to trial, then all the evidence will be documented in this fraud case and then it can be used during the murder trial.   The evidence showing that KC was out forging checks and not buying a single thing for Caylee.    I think they screwed up when they plead not guilty in the first place.   Maybe the state will not accept a plea at this point.   I say go to trial and get all the evidence documented!    Any thoughts?

Sassy, I was thinking that too about the evidence being allowed. And I sure hope the state doesn't consider offering a plea, just to end this circus. Could they?  We would never know the truth! 

[trimmonthelake]

Tomorrow is DOCUMENT DAY!!

Cant's wait.     See you monkeys in the morning.   

[Gizzie]

Sassy...I have a feeling the state will not accept a plea in this case And I hope JS gives her the maximum that he can.

 

  I like these words! 

[Sassycat]

But, if they go to trial, then all the evidence will be documented in this fraud case and then it can be used during the murder trial.   The evidence showing that KC was out forging checks and not buying a single thing for Caylee.    I think they screwed up when they plead not guilty in the first place.   Maybe the state will not accept a plea at this point.   I say go to trial and get all the evidence documented!    Any thoughts?

Sassy, I was thinking that too about the evidence being allowed. And I sure hope the state doesn't consider offering a plea, just to end this circus. Could they?  We would never know the truth! 

I think the State will go forward with this fraud trial and will enjoy every moment of it.     
I can't wait to watch it.   

[Sassycat]

Tomorrow is DOCUMENT DAY!!

     I hope it's all new documents - no repeats!

[loca]

Thanks cece...... set a trial date......uummmm based on the attorney's schedules.....   betch Lyons is gonna try to stall, stall, stall

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why would a DP try a fraud charge, im sure or i hope strickland will say bozo can handle this one....not the entire death team. I mean if bozo has time to put his mug on tv, then he has time to try this case, it looks pretty cut and dry with video and receipts, all of it.

Hi monkeys.  I haven't posted in a while but have been lurking.  I think that Bozo will most likely try to plea bargain this one.  I could be wrong but I don't think he want her to open her mouth at all.

 

Wouldn't she just plead guilty? Baez has already admitted Casey is guilty - he sent checks reimbursing Amy for what was stolen.   

She already pleaded not guilty.  That's why the trial.  I think they will try to bargain

But, if they go to trial, then all the evidence will be documented in this fraud case and then it can be used during the murder trial.   The evidence showing that KC was out forging checks and not buying a single thing for Caylee.    I think they screwed up when they plead not guilty in the first place.   Maybe the state will not accept a plea at this point.   I say go to trial and get all the evidence documented!    Any thoughts?

Sassy...I have a feeling the state will not accept a plea in this case And I hope JS gives her the maximum that he can.

geez did casey think that amy would not find out she was was writing all these checks as if in a maniac state of mind!! buying beer clothes for herself but nothing for caylee. who would think of buying  lingerie when your daughter is missing OH WAIT !! CASEY WOULD!!

[Nut44x4]

Casey Anthony: WKMG says duct tape on toddler was rare make 

posted by halboedeker on Sep 3, 2009 6:47:49 PM


The duct tape found on Caylee Anthony's remains is rare and could be a major setback for Casey Anthony's defense, WKMG-Channel 6 reported tonight.

The defense has argued that Henkel duct tape was the best seller in the country, WKMG's Tony Pipitone said. Yet the tape attached to the toddler is a special make.

"This specific, industrial, fire-resistant tape is a tiny fraction of all the tape sold by Henkel," Pipitone said in a first-rate, eye-opening report. "We tried to buy some today. We couldn't find any." 

And what does this mean? "It is extremely rare" and "a crucial find," Pipitone said of the duct tape. Prosecutors said today in a court papers that they will explain how rare that tape is. And Pipitone said the prosecution will argue that the tape is a link between the body and Anthony.

There was more bad news today for Anthony's defense team.


Judge Stan Strickland ruled today that her check-forgery trial will be scheduled before her murder trial. She is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

WFTV and WKMG stressed what the scheduling could mean: Anthony might be a convicted felon -- on as many as 13 counts -- before the murder trial starts.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer explained how a conviction might play at the murder trial if Anthony takes the stand. "If I were a prosecutor, the first question out of my mouth would be: Miss Anthony have you ever been convicted of a crime?" Sheaffer said.

She'd have to say yes.

"As soon as a jury hears that, it would be as though when a dog hears when you talk to a dog after you say it's name. It's just blah blah blah blah blah," Sheaffer said.

A forgery conviction could hurt Anthony's defense team in fighting the death penalty, WFTV's Kathi Belich added. Sheaffer said a previous conviction heightens the possibility that the jury would recommend death and that the sentence would be upheld on appeal.

WFTV and WESH-Channel 2 showed footage of Anthony on a shopping spree, when she allegedly used former friend Amy Huizenga's checks. Belich listed the items that Anthony purchased: "sexy lingerie, beer, the blue hoodie she wore the first time she was arrested and her big, white sunglasses."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-why-the-defense-possibly-suffered-a-huge-loss.html

[monkalicious]

9/3/2009     A     NOTICE OF INTENT TO RELY UPON BUSINESS RECORD CERTIFICATION

9/3/2009    A    TRANSCRIPT FILED HEARING ON AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL BEFORE HON. STAN STRICKLAND 03/12/09

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CriminalSelect.aspx?SessionID=f0f09083-f529-4900-ad06-ed86a9c4a9c7

Trimm, could you explain what these mean?  I have such a hard time understanding this court info.  Thanks.

This is an educated guess based on my limited knowledge.
First one is a heads up that a motion is going to be filed to supply a business record and or certification of one.  ??????? Maybe the Tony P original document or related.   Do we know who these were from Baez or State?

Second one I believe is just that A transcript was filed on the hearing in March re the:  AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL

Thanks, ANJ! I get confused sometimes, it's obviously a function of old age.