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Author Topic: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 - 10/4/09  (Read 575753 times)
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« Reply #1600 on: October 03, 2009, 03:48:25 PM »

Sorry everyone, but me thinks it is time for me to sit in the rafters for a while.  What is the real truth.  Who knows?  Right now I am beginning to believe the confiscated dildo may very well belong to Tena.  Only logical answer.  I am so confused.  I do believe all this chatter is moving the ball forward and that is good.  Keep it up and I will be back.  shortcake

dildo?

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LE took a vibrator when they searched the Golder's home  I don't know it could belong to Tena, Dale's girlfriend, or even it could be Dales 


 
You crack me up sometimes Norose!~
At this point in time, who knows, and I still want to know what kind of porno mags were taken out of the house 

I am pretty sure the LE are still are looking the porno mags over for "clues".   
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« Reply #1601 on: October 03, 2009, 03:49:56 PM »

Sorry everyone, but me thinks it is time for me to sit in the rafters for a while.  What is the real truth.  Who knows?  Right now I am beginning to believe the confiscated dildo may very well belong to Tena.  Only logical answer.  I am so confused.  I do believe all this chatter is moving the ball forward and that is good.  Keep it up and I will be back.  shortcake

dildo?

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LE took a vibrator when they searched the Golder's home  I don't know it could belong to Tena, Dale's girlfriend, or even it could be Dales 


 
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At this point in time, who knows, and I still want to know what kind of porno mags were taken out of the house 

I am pretty sure the LE are still are looking the porno mags over for "clues".   

   oh i bet they are
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« Reply #1602 on: October 03, 2009, 03:51:17 PM »

Sorry everyone, but me thinks it is time for me to sit in the rafters for a while.  What is the real truth.  Who knows?  Right now I am beginning to believe the confiscated dildo may very well belong to Tena.  Only logical answer.  I am so confused.  I do believe all this chatter is moving the ball forward and that is good.  Keep it up and I will be back.  shortcake

dildo?

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LE took a vibrator when they searched the Golder's home  I don't know it could belong to Tena, Dale's girlfriend, or even it could be Dales 


 
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At this point in time, who knows, and I still want to know what kind of porno mags were taken out of the house 

every single item taken out of the house is listed over on the search warrant and evidence receipt thread here on sm.  I had posted it all over here as well so everyone would have easy access to it.

I went through each item and listed where is was found, who it belonged to, what kind, etc.  I think I had missed one thing on there and still have not had time to go ask, and forgot; but other than that it is all listed on there. 
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« Reply #1603 on: October 03, 2009, 04:02:30 PM »

I didn’t ask MB the names of the witness because I didnt’t care for the specific names, I know the story behind them just as you do. I do know that her co-workers name was said in front of me but it wasn’t something that stuck in my brain but I am pretty sure it starts with a R.  Again its not a secret and I don’t know why its not constantly thrown out there. I didn’t realize until just recently that she was the same person at 9 30 who was the person who broke up the argument.

JB was questioned by LE a couple different times the first few days. I have never suspected it was him as he cant keep a secret to save his life and he is terrible at trying to lie. He has been that way since he was a little boy.  Which also leads into MB doing it.  I have NEVER once said I thought she did it or that she was covering for JB. JB did go home after R told him to.  Which again is something he has felt guilty for and talked about openly. Fortunately he has a good councelor that spends time with him.

As for MB having bi-polar issues, she has been on medication and has that under control. I did say ‘she must be off her meds’ to DD  based on something she said to me which made me mad. Which ties into what I said the other day (since everyone likes to try to tie everything together) when someone brought up  my comment about getting MB away from KK in which I explained I went over to talk to MB in a matter that didn’t concern KK. Anyways, MB said she isn’t off her meds, or missing doses, or anything like that, just that she was angry at me and reacted by saying the harsh words.


Gonna take forever to get caught up and address things the more people bring thigns up.. so bear with me… still have customers
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« Reply #1604 on: October 03, 2009, 04:14:43 PM »

I would like to know who Tab and Libby are. Didn't I read something about Libby in the search warrants?
Yup,Tab and Libby Nelson.Libby works at the BeeHive,her daughter is supposedly friends with Lindsey.
Lindsey was swimming at their house the Thursday and Friday before she went missing.

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« Reply #1605 on: October 03, 2009, 04:15:25 PM »

Just got information from a water treatment guy, lol why wonder right? ... I asked if water can be stored in a pool for working water at a house. He says yes, he has heard of that before. Drilling for a new well is very expensive and it is an alternative. The water would only be able to be used for working water in the home and not for drinking. It would have to be hooked up to a pump and of course chlorinated. He made it sound like it was not a big deal...



Thanks Tracy.  So this would mean for flushing toilets, washing clothes, PERHAPS showers, but not for drinking or cooking with.  I am not sure I would want to bath or shower in chlorinated or salt water, nor wash my clothes in it either which is why I said I would only use it for flushing toilets.  I know how much stuff I get out of my pool daily and it is covered when not in use and I use a robot that cleans it every day, have a filter and skimmer running 24/7 for the entire season.   DD I never implied they use it for swimming.  I was just pointing out that it takes work to keep it at a safe level to go swimming in- daily work, and if the water was to be used for drinking, cooking, etc, I can not see it logically happening, though I would be able to see the water being used for grey water and nothing more.
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« Reply #1606 on: October 03, 2009, 04:17:03 PM »

Janet -   
      I guess one has to be real careful in how your phrase things. Oh, I don't care if he had porno mags, my concern if it was child porn, and I guess he would be arrested if it was that, at least I would hope so.
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« Reply #1607 on: October 03, 2009, 04:17:56 PM »

That's true Janet, small town. What I would like to know is for it being such a small town, I can't believe we haven't heard more of Dale from some of the locals. Somebody must know some info on the guy, like how he was at work, would he did for relaxation, besides working on his car. Something. And I think it was DD who said two girls made a comment about a guy in a white car, were the two girls friends of Lindsey, and was it Dale in the car?

good I see you aren't 10 pages ahead of me again...

will answer this really quick then I have to go research something.

no it was no dale in that car they pointed out on the net what kind of car it looked like, was no where the same kind, they guy was definitely now someone who looked like dale.  they knew it was NOT dale or his car.

will just check in now and then have to work on something

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« Reply #1608 on: October 03, 2009, 04:20:26 PM »

MB took and passed a poly...i cant get past that.  while I think her actions are very questionable, i cant look past the poly.

as for dale, if he has a solid alibi, I have to take that into consideration..to me thats huge.  so either way you look at, about 8 people are lying...those that say they saw him that night or those that have statements in the affidavit....wth.

Leroy you summed it up perfectly.  Thank you!
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« Reply #1609 on: October 03, 2009, 04:35:55 PM »

I would like to know who Tab and Libby are. Didn't I read something about Libby in the search warrants?
Yup,Tab and Libby Nelson.Libby works at the BeeHive,her daughter is supposedly friends with Lindsey.
Lindsey was swimming at their house the Thursday and Friday before she went missing.



Is this the pool with the stove next to it as a diving board?
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« Reply #1610 on: October 03, 2009, 04:44:07 PM »

I would like to know who Tab and Libby are. Didn't I read something about Libby in the search warrants?
Yup,Tab and Libby Nelson.Libby works at the BeeHive,her daughter is supposedly friends with Lindsey.
Lindsey was swimming at their house the Thursday and Friday before she went missing.



Is this the girl who was being so awful to Lindsey and then they "made up"?
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« Reply #1611 on: October 03, 2009, 04:46:12 PM »

just got word in that search yesterday that was "suppose" to be a burglary or assault warrant out of mason county.... well eye witness saw them remove the bed out of that house and take it...


so hmmmm does not sound like a burglary or assault warrant to me... why take the person's bed over that.  ????
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« Reply #1612 on: October 03, 2009, 04:50:58 PM »

just got word in that search yesterday that was "suppose" to be a burglary or assault warrant out of mason county.... well eye witness saw them remove the bed out of that house and take it...


so hmmmm does not sound like a burglary or assault warrant to me... why take the person's bed over that.  ????

I can be slow to grasp things so bear with me DD. A witness saw them remove a bed from the home? Did we ever determine if the Feesers lived there?
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« Reply #1613 on: October 03, 2009, 04:53:34 PM »

As for other kids playing in the area, I have heard there were. Again though, its summer time, not dark out yet, it’s a nightly occurance for kids to be out, the overall feeling of the community was it was safe to do so.  And there were teens which are kids in my mind still. Some of whom were questioned.

As for mb’s lack of showing emotion in public, this has been addressed before by myself. There are several interviews in which she tears up but for the most part she does it behind closed doors. I cant totally explain it except that there have been numerous moms who go on tv all boohooing only to have been guilty of the crime and she wasn’t going to do that. Again that is why she volunteered for the poly because she wants her daughter found.  But based on  opinions thus far, if she had been super emotional someone would of made comments about that too. No matter what she does its too this or not enough that. I do know that MB wont let her mind go to the dark place of Lindsey being gone. I am thinking that if my child was gone I wouldn’t want to think that either.  The statistics are just statistics and until LB is found she cant be one. So chances don’t look good she is still alive based on other cases but we don’t know for sure!  I told MB she needs to prepare for the worst as it could be the case but I don’t think she has. I also said that I hope that if the worst is what happened, meaning LJ is dead, then I hope to god that it’s a best worst case scenario meaning her body is found and soon. I assume the unknown is far worse than getting closure by death. Know what I mean?

And backtracking to my last post and my convo with MB when I was mad at what she said and vice versa,, it ties into the family thing. She wasn’t speakin to certain members because she felt they were going behind her back to help SB try to get JB which was not the case. SB isn’t the most tactful person and you all know about his lack of involvement the past 3 years so now was not the time for him to try to get JB. She also thought that because I had been in contact with him that I was assisting him as well.  I said JB should stay else where for a while but with SB was definitely NOT the place for him to be.  JB does get teased by the kids all around town. They like to instigate things, and antagonize him to get a reaction. Then to add the fact that his sister is missing, I imagined very horrible things goin on at school and felt the best thing would be for JB to be away from the area until LJ is found. MB said so far he hasn’t been teased at school.  I get that kids are terrible and I am not sure why JB is such an easy mark but no wonder why he is partly how he is.
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« Reply #1614 on: October 03, 2009, 04:54:18 PM »

just got word in that search yesterday that was "suppose" to be a burglary or assault warrant out of mason county.... well eye witness saw them remove the bed out of that house and take it...


so hmmmm does not sound like a burglary or assault warrant to me... why take the person's bed over that.  ????

I can be slow to grasp things so bear with me DD. A witness saw them remove a bed from the home? Did we ever determine if the Feesers lived there?

never determined who is actually living there NOW.. it use to be the grandparents' feesers' property, but they don't live there now.. there were so many names connected to that property can't tell yet, and I didn't really look after it seemed nothing was going on

and yes, someone saw them take the bed out
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« Reply #1615 on: October 03, 2009, 04:57:37 PM »

Just a thought about the porno mags.  If the LE found old playboy mags as we were told.  Why put them in a evidence bag?  Then again if they were "child" type, who would they arrest if nobody would admit it was theirs(I believe 4 adults live there).  You know "it was left by a friend or some transient".  Just a possibility.  Seems like a lot we do not know for sure.  shortcake
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« Reply #1616 on: October 03, 2009, 05:07:39 PM »

just got word in that search yesterday that was "suppose" to be a burglary or assault warrant out of mason county.... well eye witness saw them remove the bed out of that house and take it...


so hmmmm does not sound like a burglary or assault warrant to me... why take the person's bed over that.  ????

Ask the eyewitness who "them" is and were they wearing white space suits simular to the ones worn during the search last weekend at the Golder residence?  If not, then I will not let that that distract me.  shortcake
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« Reply #1617 on: October 03, 2009, 05:07:51 PM »


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you have no idea the emails I have from MB... it took about the first two of them to start asking what the heck is wrong with her.  I ever ask MB the same thing.  It was so bizarre, I quit emailing her.  I thought the poor woman must be so unable to cope, she was acting like she could care less about lindsey, but I thought it was her way of coping and I did not wish to bother her.  But I clearly believe now it was NOT her way of coping, after talking to others, and NOW that I know for a fact her car was running and that she did IN FACT have the ability to hide a body... I have to agree with her when she says Lindsey is right under her nose.  I can see exactly how she could have hidden lindsey. 

might also make sense why lindsey's room is taped off as a "crime scene", which that never made sense to me either.  But it does now.

DD, Am glad you are taking another look at MB.  I too have my concerns about MB, several as you have mentioned in this post.  Ever since reading (somewhere) that MB supposedly does little but sit on her porch, and etc.  --- combined with her statement that 'Lindsey is right under her nose' -- I do have to wonder if LE has actually searched UNDER the Baum's porch?????  Inside a basement, if they have one?  And etc.  Given what 'seems to' have been lies from MB, (her car running/not running etc), clear back from the beginning, why search anywhere elsewhere until the Baum property itself has been searched and cleared.  And if LE did search the property, did they give it a glance as they ran thru, or did they actually conduct a very thorough search, corner to corner, top to bottom, and then some. 

I just want them to move MB off that porch and look under it!!! 

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« Reply #1618 on: October 03, 2009, 05:14:41 PM »

As for other kids playing in the area, I have heard there were. Again though, its summer time, not dark out yet, it’s a nightly occurance for kids to be out, the overall feeling of the community was it was safe to do so.  And there were teens which are kids in my mind still. Some of whom were questioned.

As for mb’s lack of showing emotion in public, this has been addressed before by myself. There are several interviews in which she tears up but for the most part she does it behind closed doors. I cant totally explain it except that there have been numerous moms who go on tv all boohooing only to have been guilty of the crime and she wasn’t going to do that. Again that is why she volunteered for the poly because she wants her daughter found.  But based on  opinions thus far, if she had been super emotional someone would of made comments about that too. No matter what she does its too this or not enough that. I do know that MB wont let her mind go to the dark place of Lindsey being gone. I am thinking that if my child was gone I wouldn’t want to think that either.  The statistics are just statistics and until LB is found she cant be one. So chances don’t look good she is still alive based on other cases but we don’t know for sure!  I told MB she needs to prepare for the worst as it could be the case but I don’t think she has. I also said that I hope that if the worst is what happened, meaning LJ is dead, then I hope to god that it’s a best worst case scenario meaning her body is found and soon. I assume the unknown is far worse than getting closure by death. Know what I mean?

And backtracking to my last post and my convo with MB when I was mad at what she said and vice versa,, it ties into the family thing. She wasn’t speakin to certain members because she felt they were going behind her back to help SB try to get JB which was not the case. SB isn’t the most tactful person and you all know about his lack of involvement the past 3 years so now was not the time for him to try to get JB. She also thought that because I had been in contact with him that I was assisting him as well.  I said JB should stay else where for a while but with SB was definitely NOT the place for him to be.  JB does get teased by the kids all around town. They like to instigate things, and antagonize him to get a reaction. Then to add the fact that his sister is missing, I imagined very horrible things goin on at school and felt the best thing would be for JB to be away from the area until LJ is found. MB said so far he hasn’t been teased at school.  I get that kids are terrible and I am not sure why JB is such an easy mark but no wonder why he is partly how he is.

MM I think you made a good suggestion about JB going somewhere for a while.
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« Reply #1619 on: October 03, 2009, 05:18:47 PM »

I have a question, if LE believed MB had any connection to this crime do you think they would allow Josh to live there? I would guess they would remove him from the home, place him in foster care until after the investigation.
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