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« Reply #1640 on: October 03, 2009, 06:36:51 PM »

Nor rose are you thinking maybe lindsey went there to go swimming? I am not quite following you and want to know what your thinking about this pool. I am not connecting to the dots.

No not at all.  I do not think at this point that she went there to go swimming, though anything is possible.  I do have a hard time believing that the pool was used as a source for household water however, even if it is just for grey water.  That is a lot of gallons of water to flush your toilets with. 


let me try to explain the dry well situation in mccleary.  they are not the only one whose wells go dry around there.  people have hauled water there for years.  some use to use the local firetruck to haul their water, people do this.  it is not just kona who does it. 

it si not that uncommon.  really

Hi DD,
I live in a rural area too. Luckily we are on public water, but a lot of people here are on well water ONLY! I cannot even tell you how many times the wells go dry! One family that we know did not have ANY water for months!
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« Reply #1641 on: October 03, 2009, 06:45:29 PM »

Just a thought about the porno mags.  If the LE found old playboy mags as we were told.  Why put them in a evidence bag?  Then again if they were "child" type, who would they arrest if nobody would admit it was theirs(I believe 4 adults live there).  You know "it was left by a friend or some transient".  Just a possibility.  Seems like a lot we do not know for sure.  shortcake
Also if there is 4 adults living there and Kona has a hubby and 2 sons,one of which is in the Army,who is the 4th adult that LE spoke to when they did the search?
I don't know if they talked to anybody about the mags.  Just a thought, but his brother just recently went into the Army, so it could be his couldn't it?  I believe that is (4) adults living there recently.  I will have to reaserch, but I believe someone indicated he just went in(not sure).  shortcake
It was stated somewhere that Dale's younger brother went into the service directly after Lindsey disappeared but someone(TT?Tena,Kona?)posted on Dale's comments today(supposedly,I haven't read it yet)that Dale's brother went into the service in January.
So I don't know.....if he is gone,again,who is the 4th adult living there?
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« Reply #1642 on: October 03, 2009, 06:46:37 PM »

I am also confused/concerned as to why Dale would be following MB late at night?  She was concerned enough to call the police.  This is not a healthy activity-this sends up my hinky meter. 
I believe in the search warrant it says Dale told a coworker(at BeeHive?)that this person(Melissa)was checking out his car so he thought they were going to try and steal his car for parts.Dale supposedly said this other car(Melissa's)was the same as his....a Del Sol car or something like that.
Melissa's car is nothing like Dale's car.
Melissa's car is nothing like Dale's car at all. I've seen a picture of both, and I don't know much about cars, and even I can see that. Now with the topic of Melissa's car running or not. Perhaps it wasn't running the night Lindsey disappered, but months later she probably got it fixed. I'm not defending this Dale guy at all, but I will be honest when I say always in the back of my mind Lindsey's mother and her involvement has been there. I can't help my feelings when it comes to that, I pray she wasn't, but like everyone else I have no idea. That talk in the SW about what Dale did at 14 years old, is upsetting, very upsetting. I wonder if he tried anything like that with other girls? Again, with Melissa Baum, perhaps it is her way of dealing with things, it wouldn't be mine, but that doesn't matter. And if she had a lie detector test and LE seems ok with it, then I guess that is that for now 

Sorry, am trying to catch up, so dunno if this has been pointed out yet or not.  From what I remember in the search warrant, it was said that DG was concerned about someone with a silver car like his, cruising past the Beehive, and thought that person might be wanting to steal parts from his car.  Not so sure it was mentioned in the search warrant that the silver car was driven by MB..  Or was it, and I missed that?   

And then the matter about MB being chased by someone, late at night. 

Could these be two different cars?  A silver car just like DGs, and MBs car? 

 
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« Reply #1643 on: October 03, 2009, 06:48:01 PM »

Nor rose are you thinking maybe lindsey went there to go swimming? I am not quite following you and want to know what your thinking about this pool. I am not connecting to the dots.

No not at all.  I do not think at this point that she went there to go swimming, though anything is possible.  I do have a hard time believing that the pool was used as a source for household water however, even if it is just for grey water.  That is a lot of gallons of water to flush your toilets with. 


let me try to explain the dry well situation in mccleary.  they are not the only one whose wells go dry around there.  people have hauled water there for years.  some use to use the local firetruck to haul their water, people do this.  it is not just kona who does it. 

it si not that uncommon.  really

I understand dry wells, I also understand hauling in water.  Water kept in an open pool for months would not be drinkable, nor safe to used for cooking without treatment for algae, larvae, all kinds of contaminants.  If you want to water you trees, garden or use it to flush toilets with great.  It was mentioned the pool was not used for swimming, but for water storage for the summer. I was just pointing out that the quality of water would be no better than grey water and that is a very large quantity of grey water.  If they have a special filtration system set up so that it is consumable then great, if not, then great.
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« Reply #1644 on: October 03, 2009, 06:52:19 PM »

I am also confused/concerned as to why Dale would be following MB late at night?  She was concerned enough to call the police.  This is not a healthy activity-this sends up my hinky meter. 
I believe in the search warrant it says Dale told a coworker(at BeeHive?)that this person(Melissa)was checking out his car so he thought they were going to try and steal his car for parts.Dale supposedly said this other car(Melissa's)was the same as his....a Del Sol car or something like that.
Melissa's car is nothing like Dale's car.
Melissa's car is nothing like Dale's car at all. I've seen a picture of both, and I don't know much about cars, and even I can see that. Now with the topic of Melissa's car running or not. Perhaps it wasn't running the night Lindsey disappered, but months later she probably got it fixed. I'm not defending this Dale guy at all, but I will be honest when I say always in the back of my mind Lindsey's mother and her involvement has been there. I can't help my feelings when it comes to that, I pray she wasn't, but like everyone else I have no idea. That talk in the SW about what Dale did at 14 years old, is upsetting, very upsetting. I wonder if he tried anything like that with other girls? Again, with Melissa Baum, perhaps it is her way of dealing with things, it wouldn't be mine, but that doesn't matter. And if she had a lie detector test and LE seems ok with it, then I guess that is that for now 

Sorry, am trying to catch up, so dunno if this has been pointed out yet or not.  From what I remember in the search warrant, it was said that DG was concerned about someone with a silver car like his, cruising past the Beehive, and thought that person might be wanting to steal parts from his car.  Not so sure it was mentioned in the search warrant that the silver car was driven by MB..  Or was it, and I missed that?   

And then the matter about MB being chased by someone, late at night. 

Could these be two different cars?  A silver car just like DGs, and MBs car? 

 
I think you are correct about that Wyks.
From the search warrant(the last line has me confused):


On 07-31-09 just after Midnight Melissa Baum, the mother of the missing girl reported to police she was being followed around by a white vehicle. Officers stopped and found that Golder was driving it. He claimed he was at work when he saw Melissa’s Baum’s vehicle around the Beehive Retirement Center. He thought it was suspicious so he followed it around thinking it might be connected with Baum’s disappearance. He did not call police to report the suspicious vehicle.

Investigators interviewed a co-worker of Golder’s. She said that on two separate nights near the end of July, 2009 Golder told her that a Silver Honda Del Sol was cruising around the Beehive. Golder pointed it out to her one night and said he thought the occupants of the silver Honda were going to steel parts from his Del Sol.
Bryson claimed that Golder tried to get a license number but could not. She said the next night the vehicle was back and Golder left work to follow it. She said he told her that he called the police about it. He did not tell her he was following Melissa Baum or that the police stopped him.

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« Reply #1645 on: October 03, 2009, 06:52:42 PM »

I am also confused/concerned as to why Dale would be following MB late at night?  She was concerned enough to call the police.  This is not a healthy activity-this sends up my hinky meter. 
I believe in the search warrant it says Dale told a coworker(at BeeHive?)that this person(Melissa)was checking out his car so he thought they were going to try and steal his car for parts.Dale supposedly said this other car(Melissa's)was the same as his....a Del Sol car or something like that.
Melissa's car is nothing like Dale's car.
Melissa's car is nothing like Dale's car at all. I've seen a picture of both, and I don't know much about cars, and even I can see that. Now with the topic of Melissa's car running or not. Perhaps it wasn't running the night Lindsey disappered, but months later she probably got it fixed. I'm not defending this Dale guy at all, but I will be honest when I say always in the back of my mind Lindsey's mother and her involvement has been there. I can't help my feelings when it comes to that, I pray she wasn't, but like everyone else I have no idea. That talk in the SW about what Dale did at 14 years old, is upsetting, very upsetting. I wonder if he tried anything like that with other girls? Again, with Melissa Baum, perhaps it is her way of dealing with things, it wouldn't be mine, but that doesn't matter. And if she had a lie detector test and LE seems ok with it, then I guess that is that for now 

Sorry, am trying to catch up, so dunno if this has been pointed out yet or not.  From what I remember in the search warrant, it was said that DG was concerned about someone with a silver car like his, cruising past the Beehive, and thought that person might be wanting to steal parts from his car.  Not so sure it was mentioned in the search warrant that the silver car was driven by MB..  Or was it, and I missed that?   

And then the matter about MB being chased by someone, late at night. 

Could these be two different cars?  A silver car just like DGs, and MBs car? 

 

MB's car has a huge sign on the side of it IIRC from an image I saw that is a poster for Lindsey.  It would be pretty hard not to notice that unless it was before she put the sign on.  It is also a Nissan  if I am not mistaken. 
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« Reply #1646 on: October 03, 2009, 07:09:01 PM »

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« Reply #1647 on: October 03, 2009, 07:10:22 PM »


it is 3 months later... I would think after 3 months someone might just fix their door handle?

Karma and all.  I believe all of you should research the guy if you so choose, I have no problem with anyone researching anyone... what I have a problem with is everyone getting upset at ME, because "I" don't want to waste MY time doing the research.  I'm not the ONLY researher by far.  No one is stopping anyone else from researching the guy, are they?  I might just in and respond when I know something it not correct... but so far I don't see anyone RESEARCHING the guy, it is all just saying he looks weird, or his myspace name is weird or this or that.  Please DIG and find something if it is there.  DIG DIG AND DIG... that is what research is.  If I see some LEGIT RESEARCH that makes me go HMMMM, I will be the first to check it out further, but I have already done that and I see nothing.  so for me to keep looking, is a waste, yet people have gotten furious at me because I can't dig up something on this guy.  sorry, there is NOTHING to find.

I certainly don't question everything you have said and researched, DD.  And dunno that 'everyone' else is either.  I can only speak for myself tho.  I do appreciate what you've researched and your findings.  I'd like to hear more of what you've actually found, rather than your giving a reference to that tho.  (and I do realize that some/much of what you say you already have, cannot be shared yet, that's understandable). 

For example, you've posted:

"It's going to come out that his employer NEVER SUSPENDED him from his job.  Wherever they got that information to put on that search warrant, it is all BS.  This will be cleared up.  The problem is, the things written on the search warrant as being told to them, most of those things were never stated by the people they warrant claims stated them.

I'm curious how you know this info, know it to be BS??  Have you spoken directly to the supervisor who supposedly said to the investigator/s (who then put that info in the sw) that she did suspend DG from the youth camp, for 2 weeks.  Has that supervisor said she never said that to the investigator/s? 

That's just one example of why some might be upset with you.  I simply am curious and would like to know more about why you call it "all BS".  Would like to see where you got that info, and how you come to that conclusion. 

Just as when 'others' at other forums say what you have is BS, but have only read them saying that.  Haven't read (seen) anything that they have backing up their claims.  Which is why I tend to ignore them and listen to what you are and have been saying. 

You want for folks to believe you, and I'm just asking if you can show us a bit more about what you are saying, where you get that info (even if all you can say is from a reliable source, etc), and so on. 

I hope this comes across to you in the way I mean for it to, with sincerely trying to understand the situation and curious to know more about it... rather than being harsh and ugly and accusatory, etc.  Not trying to do that at all. 
 
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« Reply #1648 on: October 03, 2009, 07:16:20 PM »


it is 3 months later... I would think after 3 months someone might just fix their door handle?

Karma and all.  I believe all of you should research the guy if you so choose, I have no problem with anyone researching anyone... what I have a problem with is everyone getting upset at ME, because "I" don't want to waste MY time doing the research.  I'm not the ONLY researher by far.  No one is stopping anyone else from researching the guy, are they?  I might just in and respond when I know something it not correct... but so far I don't see anyone RESEARCHING the guy, it is all just saying he looks weird, or his myspace name is weird or this or that.  Please DIG and find something if it is there.  DIG DIG AND DIG... that is what research is.  If I see some LEGIT RESEARCH that makes me go HMMMM, I will be the first to check it out further, but I have already done that and I see nothing.  so for me to keep looking, is a waste, yet people have gotten furious at me because I can't dig up something on this guy.  sorry, there is NOTHING to find.

I certainly don't question everything you have said and researched, DD.  And dunno that 'everyone' else is either.  I can only speak for myself tho.  I do appreciate what you've researched and your findings.  I'd like to hear more of what you've actually found, rather than your giving a reference to that tho.  (and I do realize that some/much of what you say you already have, cannot be shared yet, that's understandable). 

For example, you've posted:

"It's going to come out that his employer NEVER SUSPENDED him from his job.  Wherever they got that information to put on that search warrant, it is all BS.  This will be cleared up.  The problem is, the things written on the search warrant as being told to them, most of those things were never stated by the people they warrant claims stated them.

I'm curious how you know this info, know it to be BS??  Have you spoken directly to the supervisor who supposedly said to the investigator/s (who then put that info in the sw) that she did suspend DG from the youth camp, for 2 weeks.  Has that supervisor said she never said that to the investigator/s? 

That's just one example of why some might be upset with you.  I simply am curious and would like to know more about why you call it "all BS".  Would like to see where you got that info, and how you come to that conclusion. 

Just as when 'others' at other forums say what you have is BS, but have only read them saying that.  Haven't read (seen) anything that they have backing up their claims.  Which is why I tend to ignore them and listen to what you are and have been saying. 

You want for folks to believe you, and I'm just asking if you can show us a bit more about what you are saying, where you get that info (even if all you can say is from a reliable source, etc), and so on. 

I hope this comes across to you in the way I mean for it to, with sincerely trying to understand the situation and curious to know more about it... rather than being harsh and ugly and accusatory, etc.  Not trying to do that at all. 
 

I do not see anyone here being upset.  I do see many with a common goal that Lindsey needs to come home and soon.  Asking questions should not be misinterpreted as anything more than wanting things clarified or more information to rule out things.  We all want Lindsey home.   an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1649 on: October 03, 2009, 07:22:41 PM »


it is 3 months later... I would think after 3 months someone might just fix their door handle?

Karma and all.  I believe all of you should research the guy if you so choose, I have no problem with anyone researching anyone... what I have a problem with is everyone getting upset at ME, because "I" don't want to waste MY time doing the research.  I'm not the ONLY researher by far.  No one is stopping anyone else from researching the guy, are they?  I might just in and respond when I know something it not correct... but so far I don't see anyone RESEARCHING the guy, it is all just saying he looks weird, or his myspace name is weird or this or that.  Please DIG and find something if it is there.  DIG DIG AND DIG... that is what research is.  If I see some LEGIT RESEARCH that makes me go HMMMM, I will be the first to check it out further, but I have already done that and I see nothing.  so for me to keep looking, is a waste, yet people have gotten furious at me because I can't dig up something on this guy.  sorry, there is NOTHING to find.

I certainly don't question everything you have said and researched, DD.  And dunno that 'everyone' else is either.  I can only speak for myself tho.  I do appreciate what you've researched and your findings.  I'd like to hear more of what you've actually found, rather than your giving a reference to that tho.  (and I do realize that some/much of what you say you already have, cannot be shared yet, that's understandable). 

For example, you've posted:

"It's going to come out that his employer NEVER SUSPENDED him from his job.  Wherever they got that information to put on that search warrant, it is all BS.  This will be cleared up.  The problem is, the things written on the search warrant as being told to them, most of those things were never stated by the people they warrant claims stated them.

I'm curious how you know this info, know it to be BS??  Have you spoken directly to the supervisor who supposedly said to the investigator/s (who then put that info in the sw) that she did suspend DG from the youth camp, for 2 weeks.  Has that supervisor said she never said that to the investigator/s? 

That's just one example of why some might be upset with you.  I simply am curious and would like to know more about why you call it "all BS".  Would like to see where you got that info, and how you come to that conclusion. 

Just as when 'others' at other forums say what you have is BS, but have only read them saying that.  Haven't read (seen) anything that they have backing up their claims.  Which is why I tend to ignore them and listen to what you are and have been saying. 

You want for folks to believe you, and I'm just asking if you can show us a bit more about what you are saying, where you get that info (even if all you can say is from a reliable source, etc), and so on. 

I hope this comes across to you in the way I mean for it to, with sincerely trying to understand the situation and curious to know more about it... rather than being harsh and ugly and accusatory, etc.  Not trying to do that at all. 
 

I do not see anyone here being upset.  I do see many with a common goal that Lindsey needs to come home and soon.  Asking questions should not be misinterpreted as anything more than wanting things clarified or more information to rule out things.  We all want Lindsey home.   an angelic monkey
That is exactly right.When I ask questions it's only to try and understand and come away with some truths.
It is all about Lindsey IMO
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« Reply #1650 on: October 03, 2009, 07:25:26 PM »


it is 3 months later... I would think after 3 months someone might just fix their door handle?

Karma and all.  I believe all of you should research the guy if you so choose, I have no problem with anyone researching anyone... what I have a problem with is everyone getting upset at ME, because "I" don't want to waste MY time doing the research.  I'm not the ONLY researher by far.  No one is stopping anyone else from researching the guy, are they?  I might just in and respond when I know something it not correct... but so far I don't see anyone RESEARCHING the guy, it is all just saying he looks weird, or his myspace name is weird or this or that.  Please DIG and find something if it is there.  DIG DIG AND DIG... that is what research is.  If I see some LEGIT RESEARCH that makes me go HMMMM, I will be the first to check it out further, but I have already done that and I see nothing.  so for me to keep looking, is a waste, yet people have gotten furious at me because I can't dig up something on this guy.  sorry, there is NOTHING to find.

I certainly don't question everything you have said and researched, DD.  And dunno that 'everyone' else is either.  I can only speak for myself tho.  I do appreciate what you've researched and your findings.  I'd like to hear more of what you've actually found, rather than your giving a reference to that tho.  (and I do realize that some/much of what you say you already have, cannot be shared yet, that's understandable). 

For example, you've posted:

"It's going to come out that his employer NEVER SUSPENDED him from his job.  Wherever they got that information to put on that search warrant, it is all BS.  This will be cleared up.  The problem is, the things written on the search warrant as being told to them, most of those things were never stated by the people they warrant claims stated them.

I'm curious how you know this info, know it to be BS??  Have you spoken directly to the supervisor who supposedly said to the investigator/s (who then put that info in the sw) that she did suspend DG from the youth camp, for 2 weeks.  Has that supervisor said she never said that to the investigator/s? 

That's just one example of why some might be upset with you.  I simply am curious and would like to know more about why you call it "all BS".  Would like to see where you got that info, and how you come to that conclusion. 

Just as when 'others' at other forums say what you have is BS, but have only read them saying that.  Haven't read (seen) anything that they have backing up their claims.  Which is why I tend to ignore them and listen to what you are and have been saying. 

You want for folks to believe you, and I'm just asking if you can show us a bit more about what you are saying, where you get that info (even if all you can say is from a reliable source, etc), and so on. 

I hope this comes across to you in the way I mean for it to, with sincerely trying to understand the situation and curious to know more about it... rather than being harsh and ugly and accusatory, etc.  Not trying to do that at all. 
 

Wyks~Like I stated earlier I mainly only read here because it's too confusing, but maybe you or someone else could help me with a question. Is Kona related to LB, or anyone in this investigation other than her son? Or is she just a local that wants to  find Lindsey. I guess I'm just curious as to why she just started posting last month.......well, curious about many things but this one in particular
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« Reply #1651 on: October 03, 2009, 07:29:38 PM »

snipped from Karma's post (thanks Karma and Momtective)...

Ralke described ___________ as having some mental issues that may be due to alcohol and or drug abuse. He said he can be manipulated into believing things that did not occur.

I have been trying to decide who Ralke is referring to......?
Me too  He must be referring to Dale, right? Otherwise I haven't a clue.

From the context in the search warrant affidavit where that statement came from, yep my guess was that Ralke was referring to DG.  Curious to know why that would be his viewpoint and how he arrived at that conclusion.  (and of course, if Ralke stands by his words, as brought out in the way it was in the search warrant affidavit). 



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« Reply #1652 on: October 03, 2009, 07:35:28 PM »

Hi DD,
So, when you offered to set up a fund for a private investigator, Mom Baum was all for it? Instead of thinking that a private investigator could be helpful in locating her missing daughter, she was just interested in finding information on her Dad Baum? That is bizarre at best! I went back and found the information that I was looking for with regards to Mom Baums' car. This was a snippet from JennO from another board.

MBs car runs and does get her from point A to point B but the heater fan is going out. It decides when it wants to run. I talked to my husband and he said it could be an easy fix. So we will get a hold of MB (maybe during the next search) and see what can be done. She's going to need heat here pretty soon. Fall is sneaking up on us.
catching up but i just gotta say something.  #1 i start my car with a screwdriver. we have one good car and then 'mine'  the ignition went out one (you would put the key in but it wouldn't trun) day when it was the only car we had at the time so i had my neighbors ex-con cousin pop the ignition for me.  in essence he helped me steal my own car.  (hey i bought it for $600 its ugly and heaven forbid i get pulled over an have to explain)  #2 i have no engine/heater fan in said car as well.  all this means is that the car has to move.  it cannot idle (esp in the summer) or it will overheat and blow the engine.  so at long red lights i break out the ole screwdriver and just turn it off.  light turns green, i start the car.  the point of this is iirc correctly kk husband drives for a living.  he should have known how to fix this.  now im back to catching up
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« Reply #1653 on: October 03, 2009, 07:36:14 PM »

I have been wonder who TM is.  Some of the posts this morning referenced TM.

I just figured it out.  It is me.

 

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« Reply #1654 on: October 03, 2009, 07:49:28 PM »

Sorry everyone, but me thinks it is time for me to sit in the rafters for a while.  What is the real truth.  Who knows?  Right now I am beginning to believe the confiscated dildo may very well belong to Tena.  Only logical answer.  I am so confused.  I do believe all this chatter is moving the ball forward and that is good.  Keep it up and I will be back.  shortcake

dildo?

Janet
LE took a vibrator when they searched the Golder's home  I don't know it could belong to Tena, Dale's girlfriend, or even it could be Dales 

I get it!

 

Something akin to flip flops that used to be called thongs.

While on holidays this summer ... I approached the young man behind the front desk of the hotel we were staying at and ... inquired if my missing thongs had been turned in ... missing thongs that I thought I had left beside the pool.

I immediately realized I had said the wrong thing when I saw the shocked/ confused expression on the kid's face.

 

Janet

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« Reply #1655 on: October 03, 2009, 07:52:35 PM »

Have a good night you all.

Praying for you Lindsey
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« Reply #1656 on: October 03, 2009, 07:53:41 PM »

I didn’t ask MB the names of the witness because I didnt’t care for the specific names, I know the story behind them just as you do. I do know that her co-workers name was said in front of me but it wasn’t something that stuck in my brain but I am pretty sure it starts with a R.  Again its not a secret and I don’t know why its not constantly thrown out there. I didn’t realize until just recently that she was the same person at 9 30 who was the person who broke up the argument.

JB was questioned by LE a couple different times the first few days. I have never suspected it was him as he cant keep a secret to save his life and he is terrible at trying to lie. He has been that way since he was a little boy.  Which also leads into MB doing it.  I have NEVER once said I thought she did it or that she was covering for JB. JB did go home after R told him to.  Which again is something he has felt guilty for and talked about openly. Fortunately he has a good councelor that spends time with him.

As for MB having bi-polar issues, she has been on medication and has that under control. I did say ‘she must be off her meds’ to DD  based on something she said to me which made me mad. Which ties into what I said the other day (since everyone likes to try to tie everything together) when someone brought up  my comment about getting MB away from KK in which I explained I went over to talk to MB in a matter that didn’t concern KK. Anyways, MB said she isn’t off her meds, or missing doses, or anything like that, just that she was angry at me and reacted by saying the harsh words.


Gonna take forever to get caught up and address things the more people bring thigns up.. so bear with me… still have customers

R?  wasn't there a cook named rodger somewhere in this mess...the window guy?
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« Reply #1657 on: October 03, 2009, 08:08:20 PM »

Good night Karma  an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1658 on: October 03, 2009, 08:09:21 PM »

Has anyone heard how the search went today?
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« Reply #1659 on: October 03, 2009, 08:10:33 PM »

O/T Mama - Brandi has a a adorable Halloween avi for you in her thread.
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