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« Reply #1760 on: October 04, 2009, 12:02:29 AM »

Shortcake...what is you theory?
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« Reply #1761 on: October 04, 2009, 12:03:46 AM »

DD or Anybody.  Why are the names of the two adjacent properties blacked out on the SE?  Is there a reason for this?  I get a feeling of a cover-up of some kind going on.  It sure seems strange.  shortcake 

That would have been done by LE/GHC before they released the document.  they also blacked out names if you will notice.
Thanks AZSunny.  Only problem I have with that is it requires a copy of the SW and evidence removed be left on the property or with the owner.  I don't believe the LE/GHC would sit down and black out that information on the SW.  Seems like that would make it invalid.  I think Kona or DD must have blacked it out for whatever reason they felt necessary as it was posted shortly afterwards.  Maybe they were told to black out that information out before posting.  Strange.   ::MonkeyConfused::shortcake 

I think that the SW were posted at a TV station and copied here.  I believe that is the one with the black outs. Yes, this is done by LE when releasing such documents.  The list of the evidence removed list was the one left with the owner, and posted by DD for Kona.
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« Reply #1762 on: October 04, 2009, 12:04:28 AM »

sogoodto see you im mia

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you have no idea the emails I have from MB... it took about the first two of them to start asking what the heck is wrong with her.  I ever ask MB the same thing.  It was so bizarre, I quit emailing her.  I thought the poor woman must be so unable to cope, she was acting like she could care less about lindsey, but I thought it was her way of coping and I did not wish to bother her.  But I clearly believe now it was NOT her way of coping, after talking to others, and NOW that I know for a fact her car was running and that she did IN FACT have the ability to hide a body... I have to agree with her when she says Lindsey is right under her nose.  I can see exactly how she could have hidden lindsey. 

might also make sense why lindsey's room is taped off as a "crime scene", which that never made sense to me either.  But it does now.

DD, Am glad you are taking another look at MB.  I too have my concerns about MB, several as you have mentioned in this post.  Ever since reading (somewhere) that MB supposedly does little but sit on her porch, and etc.  --- combined with her statement that 'Lindsey is right under her nose' -- I do have to wonder if LE has actually searched UNDER the Baum's porch?????  Inside a basement, if they have one?  And etc.  Given what 'seems to' have been lies from MB, (her car running/not running etc), clear back from the beginning, why search anywhere elsewhere until the Baum property itself has been searched and cleared.  And if LE did search the property, did they give it a glance as they ran thru, or did they actually conduct a very thorough search, corner to corner, top to bottom, and then some. 

I just want them to move MB off that porch and look under it!!! 



I am just reading along and trying to catch up. I am a little under the weather and I know I am behind, but WYKS, your post just made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. 
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« Reply #1763 on: October 04, 2009, 12:05:35 AM »

OT san we are busted . LOL
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« Reply #1764 on: October 04, 2009, 12:14:36 AM »

close call with the snuggle up lol!  back to Lindsey.....what is your/anyones take?
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« Reply #1765 on: October 04, 2009, 12:17:03 AM »

i like lots of questions...lets figure this out!
 
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« Reply #1766 on: October 04, 2009, 12:18:08 AM »

DD or Anybody.  Why are the names of the two adjacent properties blacked out on the SE?  Is there a reason for this?  I get a feeling of a cover-up of some kind going on.  It sure seems strange.  shortcake 

That would have been done by LE/GHC before they released the document.  they also blacked out names if you will notice.
Thanks AZSunny.  Only problem I have with that is it requires a copy of the SW and evidence removed be left on the property or with the owner.  I don't believe the LE/GHC would sit down and black out that information on the SW.  Seems like that would make it invalid.  I think Kona or DD must have blacked it out for whatever reason they felt necessary as it was posted shortly afterwards.  Maybe they were told to black out that information out before posting.  Strange.   ::MonkeyConfused::shortcake 

I think that the SW were posted at a TV station and copied here.  I believe that is the one with the black outs. Yes, this is done by LE when releasing such documents.  The list of the evidence removed list was the one left with the owner, and posted by DD for Kona.
You are probably right, but the SW states a copy is to be left on the property.  I also remember the TV stations saying the SW and evidence receipts were being posted on the internet talk rooms.  I just wish DD would say yes or no.
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« Reply #1767 on: October 04, 2009, 12:24:42 AM »

DD or Anybody.  Why are the names of the two adjacent properties blacked out on the SE?  Is there a reason for this?  I get a feeling of a cover-up of some kind going on.  It sure seems strange.  shortcake 

That would have been done by LE/GHC before they released the document.  they also blacked out names if you will notice.
Thanks AZSunny.  Only problem I have with that is it requires a copy of the SW and evidence removed be left on the property or with the owner.  I don't believe the LE/GHC would sit down and black out that information on the SW.  Seems like that would make it invalid.  I think Kona or DD must have blacked it out for whatever reason they felt necessary as it was posted shortly afterwards.  Maybe they were told to black out that information out before posting.  Strange.   ::MonkeyConfused::shortcake 

I think that the SW were posted at a TV station and copied here.  I believe that is the one with the black outs. Yes, this is done by LE when releasing such documents.  The list of the evidence removed list was the one left with the owner, and posted by DD for Kona.
You are probably right, but the SW states a copy is to be left on the property.  I also remember the TV stations saying the SW and evidence receipts were being posted on the internet talk rooms.  I just wish DD would say yes or no.

Yes, but remember the GHC saying they would release the SW, and documents in 5 days or whatever?  They released them to the media, and in so doing they cross off all names, and locations that are not directly associated with the POI or the address involved. (REALLY TO PROTECT THOSE THAT ARE QUOTED IN THE CAUSE FOR THE WARRANT)  You are correct that they did not release the evidence taken, that was done by DD when she received if from Kona...that is where that came from.   Think what ever you wish, this is just my understanding and with some experience in reading passed SW that have been released. 
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« Reply #1768 on: October 04, 2009, 12:29:03 AM »

Shortcake...what is you theory?

Hi Mamacrazy.  I just don't know but I went back to when this search broke and some of the posters (one in perticular) vowed to do everything they could to prove the innocense of the search location person(Kona).  Strange post to say the least.  Since then we have been run all over town and away from the Kona residence.  I just think there is a lot to research to do out Foreman Road.  Like this Jessy person who may live right next door to Dale.  If so, WOW.  shortcake
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« Reply #1769 on: October 04, 2009, 12:33:27 AM »

DD or Anybody.  Why are the names of the two adjacent properties blacked out on the SE?  Is there a reason for this?  I get a feeling of a cover-up of some kind going on.  It sure seems strange.  shortcake 

That would have been done by LE/GHC before they released the document.  they also blacked out names if you will notice.
Thanks AZSunny.  Only problem I have with that is it requires a copy of the SW and evidence removed be left on the property or with the owner.  I don't believe the LE/GHC would sit down and black out that information on the SW.  Seems like that would make it invalid.  I think Kona or DD must have blacked it out for whatever reason they felt necessary as it was posted shortly afterwards.  Maybe they were told to black out that information out before posting.  Strange.   ::MonkeyConfused::shortcake 

I think that the SW were posted at a TV station and copied here.  I believe that is the one with the black outs. Yes, this is done by LE when releasing such documents.  The list of the evidence removed list was the one left with the owner, and posted by DD for Kona.
You are probably right, but the SW states a copy is to be left on the property.  I also remember the TV stations saying the SW and evidence receipts were being posted on the internet talk rooms.  I just wish DD would say yes or no.

Yes, but remember the GHC saying they would release the SW, and documents in 5 days or whatever?  They released them to the media, and in so doing they cross off all names, and locations that are not directly associated with the POI or the address involved. (REALLY TO PROTECT THOSE THAT ARE QUOTED IN THE CAUSE FOR THE WARRANT)  You are correct that they did not release the evidence taken, that was done by DD when she received if from Kona...that is where that came from.   Think what ever you wish, this is just my understanding and with some experience in reading passed SW that have been released. 

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« Reply #1770 on: October 04, 2009, 12:37:55 AM »

Shortcake...what is you theory?

Hi Mamacrazy.  I just don't know but I went back to when this search broke and some of the posters (one in perticular) vowed to do everything they could to prove the innocense of the search location person(Kona).  Strange post to say the least.  Since then we have been run all over town and away from the Kona residence.  I just think there is a lot to research to do out Foreman Road.  Like this Jessy person who may live right next door to Dale.  If so, WOW.  shortcake

Do you know Jessy's last name?
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« Reply #1771 on: October 04, 2009, 12:46:39 AM »

Shortcake...what is you theory?

Hi Mamacrazy.  I just don't know but I went back to when this search broke and some of the posters (one in perticular) vowed to do everything they could to prove the innocense of the search location person(Kona).  Strange post to say the least.  Since then we have been run all over town and away from the Kona residence.  I just think there is a lot to research to do out Foreman Road.  Like this Jessy person who may live right next door to Dale.  If so, WOW.  shortcake

Here are all the neighbors on Foreman:



  Parcel # Owner Situs Address
180523120010  TOOMPAS DAVID A & RHONDA L 82    FOREMAN RD 
180523120020  CRANE TERENCE R & JEANETTE C 80    FOREMAN RD 
180523120030  MEYER JANEAL C  110    FOREMAN RD 
180523120060  BELCHER COREY & MICHELE  78    FOREMAN RD 
180523120070  RAUB MARY M 88    FOREMAN RD 
180523120080A VANWORMER JILL 102    FOREMAN RD 
180523120080B VANWORMER JILL 102    FOREMAN RD 
180523130020  CRAWFORD DALE L ET AL 95    FOREMAN RD 
180523210010  CHEHALIS VALLEY TIMBER  114    FOREMAN RD 
180523210040  SCHEEL CHRISTOPHER & MINK J  136    FOREMAN RD 
180523220020  TUTTLE DAVID A & KAREN L 130    FOREMAN RD 
180523230010  KINNEY STEVEN D & SHEA BEVERLY J 142    FOREMAN RD 
180523230040A GOLDER TENA ET AL 149    FOREMAN RD 
180523230040B GOLDER TENA ET AL 149    FOREMAN RD 
180524230040  KARR RICHARD ET AL 15    FOREMAN RD 
 
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« Reply #1772 on: October 04, 2009, 12:54:50 AM »

Shortcake...what is you theory?

Hi Mamacrazy.  I just don't know but I went back to when this search broke and some of the posters (one in perticular) vowed to do everything they could to prove the innocense of the search location person(Kona).  Strange post to say the least.  Since then we have been run all over town and away from the Kona residence.  I just think there is a lot to research to do out Foreman Road.  Like this Jessy person who may live right next door to Dale.  If so, WOW.  shortcake

Do you know Jessy's last name?

Jessey D Braun.  He was identified as a local SO, but never really looked at.  I see he lives out same road as Dale and the SW stated two adjacent properties to be searched.  I am sure I heard two places were searched.  Also the parcel no. and owner names are blacked out.  Just makes me wonder. 
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« Reply #1773 on: October 04, 2009, 01:00:02 AM »

Shortcake...what is you theory?

Hi Mamacrazy.  I just don't know but I went back to when this search broke and some of the posters (one in perticular) vowed to do everything they could to prove the innocense of the search location person(Kona).  Strange post to say the least.  Since then we have been run all over town and away from the Kona residence.  I just think there is a lot to research to do out Foreman Road.  Like this Jessy person who may live right next door to Dale.  If so, WOW.  shortcake

Here are all the neighbors on Foreman:



  Parcel # Owner Situs Address
180523120010  TOOMPAS DAVID A & RHONDA L 82    FOREMAN RD 
180523120020  CRANE TERENCE R & JEANETTE C 80    FOREMAN RD 
180523120030  MEYER JANEAL C  110    FOREMAN RD 
180523120060  BELCHER COREY & MICHELE  78    FOREMAN RD 
180523120070  RAUB MARY M 88    FOREMAN RD 
180523120080A VANWORMER JILL 102    FOREMAN RD 
180523120080B VANWORMER JILL 102    FOREMAN RD 
180523130020  CRAWFORD DALE L ET AL 95    FOREMAN RD 
180523210010  CHEHALIS VALLEY TIMBER  114    FOREMAN RD 
180523210040  SCHEEL CHRISTOPHER & MINK J  136    FOREMAN RD 
180523220020  TUTTLE DAVID A & KAREN L 130    FOREMAN RD 
180523230010  KINNEY STEVEN D & SHEA BEVERLY J 142    FOREMAN RD 
180523230040A GOLDER TENA ET AL 149    FOREMAN RD 
180523230040B GOLDER TENA ET AL 149    FOREMAN RD 
180524230040  KARR RICHARD ET AL 15    FOREMAN RD 
 


What I found on a earlier post was RSO Jessy D Braun  100 Block of Heslep Lane(right off Foreman Road).  Please some local clear this up?
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« Reply #1774 on: October 04, 2009, 01:06:22 AM »

Shortcake...what is you theory?

Hi Mamacrazy.  I just don't know but I went back to when this search broke and some of the posters (one in perticular) vowed to do everything they could to prove the innocense of the search location person(Kona).  Strange post to say the least.  Since then we have been run all over town and away from the Kona residence.  I just think there is a lot to research to do out Foreman Road.  Like this Jessy person who may live right next door to Dale.  If so, WOW.  shortcake

Here are all the neighbors on Foreman:



  Parcel # Owner Situs Address
180523120010  TOOMPAS DAVID A & RHONDA L 82    FOREMAN RD 
180523120020  CRANE TERENCE R & JEANETTE C 80    FOREMAN RD 
180523120030  MEYER JANEAL C  110    FOREMAN RD 
180523120060  BELCHER COREY & MICHELE  78    FOREMAN RD 
180523120070  RAUB MARY M 88    FOREMAN RD 
180523120080A VANWORMER JILL 102    FOREMAN RD 
180523120080B VANWORMER JILL 102    FOREMAN RD 
180523130020  CRAWFORD DALE L ET AL 95    FOREMAN RD 
180523210010  CHEHALIS VALLEY TIMBER  114    FOREMAN RD 
180523210040  SCHEEL CHRISTOPHER & MINK J  136    FOREMAN RD 
180523220020  TUTTLE DAVID A & KAREN L 130    FOREMAN RD 
180523230010  KINNEY STEVEN D & SHEA BEVERLY J 142    FOREMAN RD 
180523230040A GOLDER TENA ET AL 149    FOREMAN RD 
180523230040B GOLDER TENA ET AL 149    FOREMAN RD 
180524230040  KARR RICHARD ET AL 15    FOREMAN RD 
 


What I found on a earlier post was RSO Jessy D Braun  100 Block of Heslep Lane(right off Foreman Road).  Please some local clear this up?

On google maps, Heslep is very close to Foreman, but doesn't back up to it. Remeber the white car mentioned............did anyone ever say what type of car the girls saw?
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« Reply #1775 on: October 04, 2009, 01:13:22 AM »

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From FamilyWatchDog.us - shows eight within a five mile radius.

Jessy d Braun   Home   100 block of Heslep Lane
McCleary, WA 98557   0.73   
MICHAEL DAVID FEESER   Home   10 block of W Elma Hicklin Road
McCleary, WA 98557   1.76   
STACY NICKOLAS KUHN   Home   100 block of Stillson Road
McCleary, WA 98557   2.01   
Kuhn, Stacy Nickolas   Home   100 Stillson Road
Mccleary, WA 98557   2.04   
Holloway, Daniel G   Home   100 Bush RD
Elma, WA 98541   4.27   
DANIEL G HOLLOWAY   Home   100 block of Bush Creek Road
Elma, WA 98541   4.29   
LONNIE PAUL TURNER   Home   70 block of W PRAIRIE DR
ELMA, WA 98541   4.52   
Feeser, Michael David   Home   00 West Elma Hicklin RD
Mccleary, WA 98557   non-mappable

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« Reply #1776 on: October 04, 2009, 01:14:54 AM »

JESSY D. BRAUN

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.
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« Reply #1777 on: October 04, 2009, 01:18:36 AM »

Shortcake...what is you theory?

Hi Mamacrazy.  I just don't know but I went back to when this search broke and some of the posters (one in perticular) vowed to do everything they could to prove the innocense of the search location person(Kona).  Strange post to say the least.  Since then we have been run all over town and away from the Kona residence.  I just think there is a lot to research to do out Foreman Road.  Like this Jessy person who may live right next door to Dale.  If so, WOW.  shortcake

Do you know Jessy's last name?

Jessey D Braun.  He was identified as a local SO, but never really looked at.  I see he lives out same road as Dale and the SW stated two adjacent properties to be searched.  I am sure I heard two places were searched.  Also the parcel no. and owner names are blacked out.  Just makes me wonder. 


WOW~I take back what I said earlier......Heslep Lane DOES back up to Foreman:


http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=heslep+lane+,+mcleary+,+wa+&daddr=149+Foreman+Rd,+Mccleary,+WA+98557&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=47.036817,-123.279747&sspn=0.008482,0.017896&ie=UTF8&ll=47.039948,-123.280077&spn=0.016963,0.068321&z=14



You have to zoom in to see Heslep come up, but I'm probably grasping at straws here.
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« Reply #1778 on: October 04, 2009, 01:20:31 AM »

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Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #88 on: June 29, 2009, 01:34:31 PM »


From FamilyWatchDog.us - shows eight within a five mile radius.

Jessy d Braun   Home   100 block of Heslep Lane
McCleary, WA 98557   0.73   
MICHAEL DAVID FEESER   Home   10 block of W Elma Hicklin Road
McCleary, WA 98557   1.76   
STACY NICKOLAS KUHN   Home   100 block of Stillson Road
McCleary, WA 98557   2.01   
Kuhn, Stacy Nickolas   Home   100 Stillson Road
Mccleary, WA 98557   2.04   
Holloway, Daniel G   Home   100 Bush RD
Elma, WA 98541   4.27   
DANIEL G HOLLOWAY   Home   100 block of Bush Creek Road
Elma, WA 98541   4.29   
LONNIE PAUL TURNER   Home   70 block of W PRAIRIE DR
ELMA, WA 98541   4.52   
Feeser, Michael David   Home   00 West Elma Hicklin RD
Mccleary, WA 98557   non-mappable

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Thanks Janet, I found it and Heslep Ln and Foreman road back up to each other.
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« Reply #1779 on: October 04, 2009, 01:36:50 AM »

DD posted on Friday (the 2nd) that DG is not considered a suspect or POI and that it would be on the 11p news, King 5. 

Been out on the net searching for the latest news broadcasts for the McCleary area, since I'm not local, and couldn't watch their news show. 

Well, I found King 5's news story, for Oct 2 at 10:45pm, and indeed right near the bottom, the reporter does say that there are no suspects, and no POI's. 

http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_100209WAB-mccleary-missing-KC.1dc17fa7d.html   

...............However................

Here's the latest video from another news station, KOMO ch4, for Oct 2, but much earlier in the day, at 12:54 pm.  The detective says that DG *is* a POI. 

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/63303447.html?video=YHI&t=a

So which is it??  And who do we believe?  A reporter, or the detective? 

Is this typical media reporting, a reporter getting things wrong.. or did something happen between noon-ish on Friday and the 11p news the same night, that made LE change their minds about his being a POI/not a POI?  And if so, why isn't that reported? 

IMO, because of there being a search warrant and all, I have to go with the latest in what I hear THE DETECTIVE actually reporting to the news, on KOMO, that he is a POI.  Until I hear him say it himself that he isn't. 

Know what I mean? 

 

 
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