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Tracygirl
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Shortcake,
give DD a chance. One thing I have learned a long the way is sometimes you have to check if you can release information because it may hurt this investigation somehow maybe not directly but somehow. If DD has information and can release it, she will in due time. If not, then it should not make or break someone's innocense.
My guess is the people are being asked where they were on the night Lindsey went missing and any other night which may have come up during the course of investigating her disappearance. Not everyone all of the time knows where they are at a certain time and it is common people get it wrong or get days confused. One thing I consider is he didn't have a long drawn out story ready in the case he was asked. In other words, he didn't have an aliby just waiting to be used. Because of this, I feel he just made an error. One other thing to consider is at his age, was this a 9/11 event? He is a 23 year old young man, working 2 jobs...Would this hit him the same as it would you or I? probably not.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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OK,guess I'll head back to Caylee's thread to catch up,I feel I belong there anyway.
I feel you belong here Karma, I appreciate your posting
me too
Everyone is welcome to post anywhere, on any threads in this forum.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Please forgive me sisters. For I have sinned. I got so wrapped up in this search that I lost my way. I jumped to conclusions and should not have. I think I even upset DD. She does not deserve to be bagered. But she is the one with all the answeres. To everyone I offended, I apoligize. I think I will sit in the corner a just watch things develop. shortcake
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Quote from: shortcake on October 01, 2009, 07:00:51 PM
Please forgive me sisters. For I have sinned. I got so wrapped up in this search that I lost my way. I jumped to conclusions and should not have. I think I even upset DD. She does not deserve to be bagered. But she is the one with all the answeres. To everyone I offended, I apoligize. I think I will sit in the corner a just watch things develop. shortcake
I'll say it again, you are funny! I wasn't offended, I thought you were trying to be funny!
lost your way . . . teehee
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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on October 01, 2009, 06:24:59 PM
OK,guess I'll head back to Caylee's thread to catch up,I feel I belong there anyway.
Oh come on now Karma we all add our 2 cents and if sometimes people don't agree it doesn't mean we don't want you here. Get back over here and stop it!
Plus you would need a break from the craziness of that case! I don't even go there, I would have even more gray hairs.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Quote from: shortcake on October 01, 2009, 07:00:51 PM
Please forgive me sisters. For I have sinned. I got so wrapped up in this search that I lost my way. I jumped to conclusions and should not have. I think I even upset DD. She does not deserve to be bagered. But she is the one with all the answeres. To everyone I offended, I apoligize. I think I will sit in the corner a just watch things develop. shortcake
Why is everyone being so sensitive today?
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shortcake:
are you saying everyone who knows where he was at is lying? including the neighbors? sorry, I don't think they ALL are lying.
DD, I don't know, but please find out what night is in question. So some of the alibi is from neighbors. Who were the others? You have ways to find out. You have ways to shut me up. Just post the night he was asked about? Simple. shortcake
shortcake: I am not trying to shut up hahah, you have every right to say what you like or to think what you want to think... you have that right to discuss it as well. I discussed it with you, I have my opiinion, you have yours. then you said I was dancing around the answer and that he has holes in his alibi and you were elated that you think something I said made you believe that.
If you think I am dancing around questions etc, or that witnesses are lying without even knowing who they are or what they said, what is the point? there is none, your mind is made up the guy is guilty. that is your right. I have given my reasons why I believe he has nothing to do with this. other than that I am not going to sit and argue back and forth. they don't even do that in a court of law. each person gives there side, and everyone makes up their own mind. I gave mine. I'm done
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Where is everyone getting the halloween monkey's?
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Did anyone get a chance or want to read "Did Lindsey Get Hurt in the Woods?" by DD? I didn't get any response to that when I posted it before, so I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts about this theory.
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oh my they are sooo cute!
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shortcake:
are you saying everyone who knows where he was at is lying? including the neighbors? sorry, I don't think they ALL are lying.
DD, I don't know, but please find out what night is in question. So some of the alibi is from neighbors. Who were the others? You have ways to find out. You have ways to shut me up. Just post the night he was asked about? Simple. shortcake
I'm not trying to shut you up ShortCake but IMO he was questioned about the night Lindsey went missing.
Thanks. I think so too, but do not know for sure. I don't know why DD does not know this very important detail. I am sure DD can contact Kona and get the answere quickly. I can't move on til I know for sure. shortcake
you are joking right? . . . you don't know why DD does not know . . . DD can contact . . . hmmm didn't realize DD was your search engine! lol you are so funny LMAO we needed some humor. Thanks.
Well she was sure quick to post all about the search warrant and the excuses for Kona and her son. The answere to LE, the car could not be the one, condoms, etc. Seems like she is the only one with the inside information and does not mind posting it. Where else would you go for questions? She put herself in harms way. Sorry JMO shortcake
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Quote from: Tracygirl on October 01, 2009, 07:09:15 PM
Quote from: shortcake on October 01, 2009, 07:00:51 PM
Please forgive me sisters. For I have sinned. I got so wrapped up in this search that I lost my way. I jumped to conclusions and should not have. I think I even upset DD. She does not deserve to be bagered. But she is the one with all the answeres. To everyone I offended, I apoligize. I think I will sit in the corner a just watch things develop. shortcake
Why is everyone being so sensitive today?
Tracygirl, I think we all so desparately want Lindsey found -- and sometimes, at least with me, it can cause that emotional side to feel so exposed. We'll be ok, we always are.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Quote from: Madre on October 01, 2009, 07:11:21 PM
Did anyone get a chance or want to read "Did Lindsey Get Hurt in the Woods?" by DD? I didn't get any response to that when I posted it before, so I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts about this theory.
yes a few days ago i posted a link over there and no one responded either. i think its a very plausible theory and a good read
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shortcake:
are you saying everyone who knows where he was at is lying? including the neighbors? sorry, I don't think they ALL are lying.
DD, I don't know, but please find out what night is in question. So some of the alibi is from neighbors. Who were the others? You have ways to find out. You have ways to shut me up. Just post the night he was asked about? Simple. shortcake
shortcake: I am not trying to shut up hahah, you have every right to say what you like or to think what you want to think... you have that right to discuss it as well. I discussed it with you, I have my opiinion, you have yours. then you said I was dancing around the answer and that he has holes in his alibi and you were elated that you think something I said made you believe that.
If you think I am dancing around questions etc, or that witnesses are lying without even knowing who they are or what they said, what is the point? there is none, your mind is made up the guy is guilty. that is your right. I have given my reasons why I believe he has nothing to do with this. other than that I am not going to sit and argue back and forth. they don't even do that in a court of law. each person gives there side, and everyone makes up their own mind. I gave mine. I'm done
Sorry DD. I apoligize. shortcake
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Considering the truth regarding the disappearance of Lindsey Baum is not known ... I feel that each Monkey on the forum should "feel" the freedom to speculate in his/her own way.
I believe with all my heart that LE has a foundation from which suspicion of this young man has been drawn from ... suspicion that has deemed him a person of interest. Something akin to many suspects of interest in criminal cases ... the investigative process will either clear this young man or ... it will determine he is a suspect.
However ... when I consider the witness sighting of Lindsey at Maple and Fifth ... minutes from home ... minutes from Mom and brother ... I believe the focus of the investigation should have be closer to home prior to moving outward. Considering Melissa B and Josh B. were waiting at the end of Lindsey journey ... considering the known family dynamics ... where these two ever deemed at some point in time persons of interest?
Could it be that the focus has never been on Melissa B. and Josh B. as persons of interest because there were red flags from the past that LE and CPS did not want exposed ... red flags that were disregarded ... red flags that could have prevented the disappearance of Lindsey Baum if addressed.
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1. As far as the abuse Lindsey went threw the MPD knows the FBI also knows.
2. They have the reports I help Lindsey file.
3. Just as of this moring when the FBI was at my house I made a comment about the 911 calls and the call to CPS
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;quote=904672;topic=5790.880;num_replies=1162;sesc=28414912316d49a494791fe51542bb71
mlachester:
To answer the questions everyone has asked, Yes I have talked to police and as far as things being unfounded its more of lazy work by cps and I don't know what the police were thinking. Since Lindsey has gone missing I have helped serch and put fliers up. I was called by the agents investigating and told them what I know. And this is no nick name everyone in McCleary knows who I am. Its no big secret she had came to my house to call 911 when her brother had done things to her. I hope lindsey is hiding and she finds a way to get to someone for help to tell them why. But as everyday gose by the fear gets worse.
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_063009WAB-Mccleary-girl-search-LJ.1fc0b759.html?ocp=2#slcgm_comments_anchor
mlachester:
I am close to her and I know a lot more than the media or law enforcement are saying right now. As for Scanner, sorry if you don't like the truth but I have never been one to keep the truth in and she should of been taken the first time she called 911 from my house asking for help instead of put in a police car and taken back to her abuser!"
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Marilyn La Chester's Friend
... One time she called CPS on melissa baum when lindsey came over with welts from her calfs to her back. she was horrified and i think a couple others saw this at her house. the other incidents with Josh were chasing her with knife, shovel, choking, and at least one other attack against another individual (and here i forgot to write it down, i think it was a female but can't recall if it was an adult or child, but marilyn made the call). she says he was very violent and went to Juvi many times! hmm. anyway, i don't think she's lying, that's a whole lot to be lying about.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5790.msg904974#msg904974
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Quote from: sunshine12 on October 01, 2009, 07:15:44 PM
Quote from: Madre on October 01, 2009, 07:11:21 PM
Did anyone get a chance or want to read "Did Lindsey Get Hurt in the Woods?" by DD? I didn't get any response to that when I posted it before, so I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts about this theory.
yes a few days ago i posted a link over there and no one responded either. i think its a very plausible theory and a good read
So sorry Sunshine. I didn't see your post to respond. I try to read each one, but sometimes I miss some.
I don't know if you saw my first post about this theory, but I keep thinking about it, can't get it out of my head. Also, it would explain a lot of things I've seen surrounding Lindsey's case.
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Re: Lindsey Baum # 5 9/28/09 -
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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on October 01, 2009, 06:24:59 PM
OK,guess I'll head back to Caylee's thread to catch up,I feel I belong there anyway.
Don't leave Karma. You are an important poster both here and On the Caylee thread.
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Quote from: Tracygirl on October 01, 2009, 07:12:03 PM
oh my they are sooo cute!
I have claimed them all!
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
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Quote from: Madre on October 01, 2009, 07:11:21 PM
Did anyone get a chance or want to read "Did Lindsey Get Hurt in the Woods?" by DD? I didn't get any response to that when I posted it before, so I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts about this theory.
This is why I have been asking about the kids around that night, what the girls planned on doing that evening, etc....
I asked this on DD's site, Unless MB didn't do laundry LB put her swim suit on because she wanted to go swimming. Could it have been possible they were going over to Kayla's house to not only ask about spending the night but for Kayla to get her suit on? It has always made me wonder, why the girls just didn't call Kara and ask permission rather then walking over there, that doesn't make sense to me. Kayla must have had to get something from her house. What this all means I have no idea but it may shed some light on if LB went somewhere after leaving Kayla's.
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o/t even if you're not into avatars, under monkey lounge thread, Brandi and CBB are greating some wonderful avaies. For a change of pace and some giggles, check it out.
o/t speaking of avi's, Sister.. i just have to say, that is one gorgeous dog!
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===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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