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« Reply #1360 on: October 03, 2009, 10:05:30 AM »

Was there a pool at Dales house?
Good question    I don't know what is all going on, but after reading that SW, I don't know how one can't go away with some suspicion. I also have no idea why if none of this happened, why a person/people are after this guy 

I agree, and now if they were to end up arresting this kid they have released facts that have tainted the jury..IMO.  Still cant figure out why they would release this kind of into to the public...except that they are mad that kona is threatening a lawsuit.  MO
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« Reply #1361 on: October 03, 2009, 10:14:51 AM »

I wish we would find out something, the more I look at that SW    Is that all lies?
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« Reply #1362 on: October 03, 2009, 10:15:00 AM »

I know DD is saying no but posting this anyway.  This WAS from earlier tonight.  This is where the POI came from:

<object height="264" width="320"><param name="movie" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" value="http://www.komonews.com/v/?i=63303447" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="wmode" value="transparent" /><param name="AllowFullScreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.komonews.com/v/?i=63303447" AllowFullScreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" height="264" wmode="transparent" width="320"></embed></object>

http://www.komonews.com/

Why would DD object to a KOMO media report being posted on the forum?

I do not understand.

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« Reply #1363 on: October 03, 2009, 10:23:24 AM »

I know DD is saying no but posting this anyway.  This WAS from earlier tonight.  This is where the POI came from:

<object height="264" width="320"><param name="movie" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" value="http://www.komonews.com/v/?i=63303447" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="wmode" value="transparent" /><param name="AllowFullScreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.komonews.com/v/?i=63303447" AllowFullScreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" height="264" wmode="transparent" width="320"></embed></object>

http://www.komonews.com/

Why would DD object to a KOMO media report being posted on the forum?

I do not understand.



Janet

From what I am hearing on the report he is still a POI?  Is that what you are understanding?  I don't know how he could be released from this status when they are still waiting on the analysis from the items taken from the residence.  I just hope they are continuing to look at others as well.
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« Reply #1364 on: October 03, 2009, 10:24:21 AM »

The following article was posted on KING 5 website at 10:45 PM last night ... just prior to the 11:00 news where the contents were revealed.

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Family feels targeted in missing McCleary girl's case
10:45 PM PDT on Friday, October 2, 2009
By TRICIA MANNING-SMITH / KING 5 News


McCLEARY, Wash. - A McCleary family claims they're unfairly targeted and harassed by police officers connected to the case of missing Lindsey Baum.

Friday, a tearful mother and an angry father defended their son who was the subject of a search warrant at their rural McCleary home, related to the disappearance of 11-year-old Lindsey Baum.

Court documents released Friday relate why detectives believed the son could be Baum's kidnapper.

Witnesses told detectives that the man obsessed about Baum's disappearance and expressed his belief that a girl had been "dismembered."

Officers, however, found nothing nothing to back that up.

According to court papers, witnesses also reportedly told officers they saw the man's car near where Baum disappeared on June 26 in McCleary.

A month later, officers pulled over the same man for following the mother of the missing girl around town.

While officers executed these search warrants last week, Melissa Baum continued to hope for a break in the case.

"There's hope. I know she's alive and she'll come home," she said.

According to court documents, the man also gave detectives several different stories about his whereabouts when Baum disappeared.

The man's parents told KING 5 that their son got confused because detectives interviewed him more than a month after Baum vanished. Therefore, he apparently could not remember many specific details that far back.

Court documents show detectives seized property from the man's home last weekend, including computers, paperwork, drug paraphernalia and a sex toy.

Detectives say they now have no suspect or person-of-interest, but they do have a lot of leads and a girl who seemingly vanished without a trace.

The affidavit for the search warrant also says that the man was a former suspect in the attempted rape of a child when he was 14, but he was not given a formal decision in the case.

http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_100209WAB-mccleary-missing-KC.1dc17fa7d.html

 

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« Reply #1365 on: October 03, 2009, 10:25:29 AM »

Good questions. 
Also why would LE(local and FBI) want to frame this guy?  Isn't the FBI still involved?

Didn't someone working on the case draw up the SW and the Judge just sign it?  So now we have multiple persons involved in the frame-up?

Why did the LE take the blue ATB dildo?  Why would the ex-girlfriend leave THAT behind?  And why would he keep it anyway?  "Sic"

Does not his name on Myspace look like a "sic" person?  At least he needs help, IMO.

Is Tena Golder who lives on Foreman Road(where search was)related to Dale?

Just a few questions...  shortcake

 
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« Reply #1366 on: October 03, 2009, 10:27:33 AM »

I know DD is saying no but posting this anyway.  This WAS from earlier tonight.  This is where the POI came from:

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http://www.komonews.com/

Why would DD object to a KOMO media report being posted on the forum?

I do not understand.

Janet

From what I am hearing on the report he is still a POI?  Is that what you are understanding?  I don't know how he could be released from this status when they are still waiting on the analysis from the items taken from the residence.  I just hope they are continuing to look at others as well.

I misunderstood Klaas.  I took her words as meaning that DD did not want the video posted.

I apologize.

Janet
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« Reply #1367 on: October 03, 2009, 10:27:39 AM »

Hello night owls - just heard the broadcast again on KING5 news.  As best as I can remember the wording is "detectives say they have no suspects or POI's but a lot of leads".  So Dale is apparently a lead.  I just don't understand why we search the background of the mayor, preacher, everyone on 6th street, even a family on Church Rd. today, but will not at least look at where the 2 day search was this last weekend?  You have to admit he looks and acts very suspect.  But no background search.  Wonder how many SO's he is related to?  Nobody care?  DD, please wake these monkeys up and lets get to searching his background.  He had a rape charge involvement at age 14, lives next to a party drug smoking, nut-busting, soiled mattress, children clothes littered building and few want to look that way.  Why?  A least a peek.   ::MonkeyMad::shortcake

I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to check him out.  Cuz if what we've heard about him lately is true, a boy scout he ain't.  And if true, seems there is wayyyyy too much IMO, to cover up, rearrange, explain away, make excuses for.  Sigh. 

If one fuzzy-sleepy wrong reply to LE was all there was against him, then I really wouldn't look sideways at him, and doubt that LE would either.  But it doesn't seem to be JUST one fuzzy-sleepy wrong reply.  My gosh!  Each day we're reading about more.. and more.. and more.. When does it stop?  How much don't we know that he may have done/said? 

I honestly hope that he had nothing to do with Lindsey's having gone missing.  But this one bears looking into, no matter who he is.  If I had read this (for example) about a son of a mayor, high sheriff, even a pastor, it would be the same for me.  I'd want him checked out thoroughly. 

Just my thoughts on it.  For now.  Til we learn more. 
   

Wyks, he has been checked, checked, and rechecked.

Leroy, no pool.

Janet, no objection about the news on kono, just knew it wasn't the latest.

Tracygirl, o/t hope all is well with hubby.
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« Reply #1368 on: October 03, 2009, 10:27:42 AM »

Good questions. 
Also why would LE(local and FBI) want to frame this guy?  Isn't the FBI still involved?

Didn't someone working on the case draw up the SW and the Judge just sign it?  So now we have multiple persons involved in the frame-up?

Why did the LE take the blue ATB dildo?  Why would the ex-girlfriend leave THAT behind?  And why would he keep it anyway?  "Sic"

Does not his name on Myspace look like a "sic" person?  At least he needs help, IMO.

Is Tena Golder who lives on Foreman Road(where search was)related to Dale?

Just a few questions...  shortcake

 
I though Tena was Dale's mother 
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« Reply #1369 on: October 03, 2009, 10:28:12 AM »

I wish we would find out something, the more I look at that SW    Is that all lies?

I hope something comes out of the search this weekend   an angelic monkey 
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« Reply #1370 on: October 03, 2009, 10:29:20 AM »

The following article was posted on KING 5 website at 10:45 PM last night ... just prior to the 11:00 news where the contents were revealed.

Janet

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Family feels targeted in missing McCleary girl's case
10:45 PM PDT on Friday, October 2, 2009
By TRICIA MANNING-SMITH / KING 5 News


McCLEARY, Wash. - A McCleary family claims they're unfairly targeted and harassed by police officers connected to the case of missing Lindsey Baum.

Friday, a tearful mother and an angry father defended their son who was the subject of a search warrant at their rural McCleary home, related to the disappearance of 11-year-old Lindsey Baum.

Court documents released Friday relate why detectives believed the son could be Baum's kidnapper.

Witnesses told detectives that the man obsessed about Baum's disappearance and expressed his belief that a girl had been "dismembered."

Officers, however, found nothing nothing to back that up.

According to court papers, witnesses also reportedly told officers they saw the man's car near where Baum disappeared on June 26 in McCleary.

A month later, officers pulled over the same man for following the mother of the missing girl around town.

While officers executed these search warrants last week, Melissa Baum continued to hope for a break in the case.

"There's hope. I know she's alive and she'll come home," she said.

According to court documents, the man also gave detectives several different stories about his whereabouts when Baum disappeared.

The man's parents told KING 5 that their son got confused because detectives interviewed him more than a month after Baum vanished. Therefore, he apparently could not remember many specific details that far back.

Court documents show detectives seized property from the man's home last weekend, including computers, paperwork, drug paraphernalia and a sex toy.

Detectives say they now have no suspect or person-of-interest, but they do have a lot of leads and a girl who seemingly vanished without a trace.

The affidavit for the search warrant also says that the man was a former suspect in the attempted rape of a child when he was 14, but he was not given a formal decision in the case.

http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_100209WAB-mccleary-missing-KC.1dc17fa7d.html

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« Reply #1371 on: October 03, 2009, 10:30:49 AM »

I wish we would find out something, the more I look at that SW    Is that all lies?

I hope something comes out of the search this weekend   an angelic monkey 
Me too. Perhaps this man has had nothing to do with Lindsey's disappearance, but I'm skeptical of him 
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« Reply #1372 on: October 03, 2009, 10:33:30 AM »


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« Reply #1373 on: October 03, 2009, 10:34:24 AM »

Thanks, and they are interesting 
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« Reply #1374 on: October 03, 2009, 10:38:40 AM »

Good questions. 
Also why would LE(local and FBI) want to frame this guy?  Isn't the FBI still involved?

Didn't someone working on the case draw up the SW and the Judge just sign it?  So now we have multiple persons involved in the frame-up?

Why did the LE take the blue ATB dildo?  Why would the ex-girlfriend leave THAT behind?  And why would he keep it anyway?  "Sic"

Does not his name on Myspace look like a "sic" person?  At least he needs help, IMO.

Is Tena Golder who lives on Foreman Road(where search was)related to Dale?

Just a few questions...  shortcake
 

Shortcake, it was one officer's information on which the SW was based.  Not multiple persons.  That officer was given incorrect information.
Now you don't like the way he looks and therefore is a "sic" person.  What is your source for that, your opinion of people's physical appearance.
How about a "few questions" about finding Lindsey? after all, that is what is important, wouldn't you agree.
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« Reply #1375 on: October 03, 2009, 10:39:43 AM »

I wish we would find out something, the more I look at that SW    Is that all lies?

I hope something comes out of the search this weekend   an angelic monkey 

Yes Leroy, I do too!
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« Reply #1376 on: October 03, 2009, 10:40:57 AM »

That's what I can't figure out Janet  it makes no sense.

Could it be that a tip was recently received that formed the catalyst which brought together all the other the red flags that had accumulated against this young man and ... motivated LE to take action.

Karma ... it was not a framing.  Think about it.  LE concedes that no case related evidence was found.  A framing would imply planted evidence.

Janet

I need to read it all again, but in the warrant, were they talking about this guy, and a young girl, and he brought her to his bedroom, and put a dresser in front of the door, I think the girl was 12 
Apparently that happened when DG was 14 yo and DG's Mom is/was good friends with this girls Mom.DG was babysitting when he was showing these kids(2-3 kids he was babysitting)porno and took the 12 yo girl into a bedroom,barracated the door and demanded she strip.She cried for 2 hours then he let her out.The girl's Mom didn't want her to file charges so they didn't.
But when LE recently talked to the girl's Mom(girl is now 21 yo)the Mom denied knowing anything about it.BUT LE showed her the paperwork or something so she admitted something happened(I think).LE got a hold of the now 21 yo and she says it did happen.
I forgot what else but it's all in the warrant.

I kinda feel like we didn't get the whole story about this from others but I can't blame them for trying to protect Kona.

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« Reply #1377 on: October 03, 2009, 10:42:13 AM »

Thank you AZSunny,I saw that days ago and this comment from his 2nd picture .....looks so familar....the last name.What was KaraK's sis-in-laws last name?

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« Reply #1378 on: October 03, 2009, 10:42:14 AM »

I wish we would find out something, the more I look at that SW    Is that all lies?

I hope something comes out of the search this weekend   an angelic monkey 
Me too. Perhaps this man has had nothing to do with Lindsey's disappearance, but I'm skeptical of him 

NoRose, being skeptical is a good thing.  Helps keep our minds open.
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« Reply #1379 on: October 03, 2009, 10:46:27 AM »

This sure does not look good.

His Mom got a call for him from LE to do a phone interview,he was asleep,Mom calls LE back and says he left the home and gives LE his cell number.LE calls him and he says he was not working at BeeHive that Friday and Saturday but was working at his other job on June 26th even though he was spotted driving around town that Friday.

LE calls his other job and finds out he was on disciplinary leave from June 7th through June 27th.
OMG......

I have no idea whether or not this young man is involved in the disappearance of Lindsey Baum but ... I believe that LE were justified in their suspicions ... justified in searching the home/property where he resides.  I just do not understand what took them so long.

 

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