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« Reply #860 on: September 10, 2009, 12:00:14 AM »

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« Reply #861 on: September 10, 2009, 01:07:02 AM »

This is dated Sept. 1st and I had not seen this before. Check it out!  http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/d/jaycee_dugard/index.html
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« Reply #862 on: September 10, 2009, 10:24:24 AM »

RadarOnLine has a bunch of new pictures, it looks like they have been doing a
clean up of the back yard. It looks like a lot of the tents are gone and there are
some holes from digging, but a long way to go. At least they are doing it.
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« Reply #863 on: September 10, 2009, 10:44:20 AM »



“Her captor was her primary relationship, and the father of her two children, and at some level separation may be difficult for all of them,” said Douglas F. Goldsmith, executive director of the Children’s Center in Salt Lake City. Dr. Goldsmith added that any therapy “has to be mindful that there are three victims, not one, and that they will be entering a new life together.”

About two-thirds of children who are kidnapped or abused suffer lingering mental problems, most often symptoms of post-traumatic stress and depression.

Recent studies have found that about 80 percent of victims do show significant improvement in mood after three to four months of trauma-focused weekly therapy. Still, given the information available so far, experts say Ms. Dugard and her two children face an unusually complex task.

Her stepfather, Carl Probyn, says she has already told her mother of feeling guilt that she bonded with the man who kidnapped her when she was 11. She and her children will have to learn to connect with and trust her first family, the one from which she was taken in 1991.

“The way I think about this case is that it is an extreme version of a phenomenon that is really not that uncommon: a child engaged in an abusive relationship when young and, not knowing any better, coming to accept it as their life, adapting as best they can,” said Lucy Berliner, director of the trauma program at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle. “Certainly every case is different, but we now have some proven interventions we can use.”

Therapists say Ms. Dugard’s transition to a new life is likely to take some time, probably years. Elisabeth Fritzl, the Austrian woman held in a dungeon by her father for 24 years, has reportedly undergone extensive therapy and still struggles mentally, 16 months after she was freed.

And Shawn Hornbeck, abducted in Missouri at age 11 in 2002 and held captive for four years, told reporters nearly two years after being freed that he was still learning to cope with the emotional effects.

By contrast, Elizabeth Smart, the young woman in Utah who was kidnapped at age 14 in 2002 and held for nine months, is now reportedly doing well, a student at Brigham Young University. When she was reunited with her family, she told CNN last week, “we just spent time as a family, which was like — it was the best thing I could have done.”

The main challenge in all such cases, experts say, is breaking the bond with the captor and abuser. David Wolfe, a professor of psychology and psychiatry at the University of Toronto, has studied victims and some perpetrators of long-term abusive relationships.

In these cases, as in many kidnappings, perpetrators work hard to win the trust of their victims. “It’s a common element,” Dr. Wolfe said. “The child is frightened, and the perpetrator works to gain or regain the child’s confidence, to come across as a really good person: ‘I’m not going to hurt you, everything’s going to be O.K.’ and so on.

“So the child never knows when to fight or run,” he continued. “Do I wait and it’ll get worse? Or do I believe him and I won’t be hurt?”

Humans are wired to form social bonds, and such scraps of kindness can deepen even a relationship built on manipulation and abuse. Some victims have profoundly ambivalent feelings toward abusive captors, psychologists say, and tend to do better when they acknowledge their mixed feelings. Thinking of the perpetrator as a monster feels unfair; on the other hand, it would be wrong to call him merely misguided.

Once victims have shaken the influence of a perpetrator and re-established trust with loved ones, they can better learn through therapy how to ease the impact of their ordeal, said John A. Fairbank, a professor of psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences at Duke and co-director of the U.C.L.A.-Duke University National Center for Child Traumatic Stress.

The most rigorously tested therapy is called trauma-focused cognitive behavioral therapy. In weekly sessions over three to four months, people learn how to examine and refute suspect assumptions about their ordeal. One of the most common of these is “I can’t trust anyone anymore.” Another is “It’s my fault I didn’t resist more.”

“Of course it is not their fault, and we communicate that,” said Dr. Berliner, the Seattle therapist. “But at the same time, in many cases they did go along, they did make decisions not to fight or run, and we help people examine why they made those decisions — to understand that judging themselves harshly in retrospect might not be fair to the child they were in that moment.”

Typically, people in trauma-focused therapy also learn methods to regulate the strength of their emotions. These methods include simple breathing and relaxation techniques, as well as mindfulness, an exercise in allowing an emotion to take hold and pass without acting on it.

Finally, victims often work with the therapist to build a narrative, oral or written, of the entire ordeal, then file it as a chapter of their lives rather than the entire story. If appropriate, they may also “relive” the experience multiple times until its emotional power wanes. This approach is not for everyone — it seems to make some people more distraught — but experts say it can be helpful in some patients.

So far, Jaycee Dugard seems to be doing just as her fellow abductee Ms. Smart advised: staying with family, keeping herself and her children away from public scrutiny. Those are good instincts, therapists say.

“It’s not like resilience is out of the question in a case like this,” said Dr. Judith A. Cohen, medical director of the Center for Traumatic Stress in Children and Adolescents at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh. “In a lot of kidnapping cases, people do remarkably well, and this woman has already shown amazing survival skills.

“That she managed to survive for so long suggests that she might do well in the years to come.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/health/01psych.html?_r=1


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« Reply #864 on: September 10, 2009, 10:53:37 AM »

Well, there she is and that is an excellent article that talks of the long road ahead of her and her children.
It also talks about Stockholm syndrome and how the perp plays on the victim.. How it twists and turns a victims mind.

There is a lot to read and understand in that article..

Thanks for the links that took me to it tupelohoney
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« Reply #865 on: September 10, 2009, 10:55:50 AM »

“The way I think about this case is that it is an extreme version of a phenomenon that is really not that uncommon: a child engaged in an abusive relationship when young and, not knowing any better, coming to accept it as their life, adapting as best they can,”
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« Reply #866 on: September 10, 2009, 11:12:25 AM »

Edward, is that a picture of Jaycee now? ^^^^^^ where did you find that at?
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« Reply #867 on: September 10, 2009, 11:23:27 AM »

Here you go cookie.
http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/d/jaycee_dugard/index.html

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« Reply #868 on: September 10, 2009, 11:28:28 AM »


thanks Pal!
did I miss it as to how this picture was taken? did the family provide it? what a lovely face Jaycee has...
sorry if this has been talked about ...trying to catch up on a bunch of threads here...impossible to do!
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« Reply #869 on: September 10, 2009, 12:59:45 PM »

She is a very pretty young woman, and the road ahead I can't even imagine, thankfully she has a good family who love her and her children, and they will get excellent care  an angelic monkey
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« Reply #870 on: September 10, 2009, 05:09:11 PM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/10/earlyshow/main5300008.shtml

Sept. 9, 2009
Jaycee's Terror as Her Ordeal Began
Details Emerging About What Allegedly Happened During Her Abduction and Early Years as Captive



They were talking about this today on HLN at 5:00 ET.  There will probably be a youtube video out soon.
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« Reply #871 on: September 11, 2009, 12:13:17 AM »

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/09/10/2009-09-10_phillip_garrido_client_wants_.html


Phillip Garrido client to Jaycee Dugard: Clear my name in child porn search


By Nancy Dillon
DAILY NEWS WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF

Thursday, September 10th 2009, 4:24 PM

LOS ANGELES - One of Phillip Garrido's printing clients wants kidnap victim Jaycee Dugard to speak up and clear her name after cops raided three of her properties in an apparent search for child pornography.

"She needs to let people know what really went on and clear my name," Cheyvonne Molino told the Daily News Thursday after police seized a laptop and video tapes from her northern California home.

Molino said investigators upended drawers and mattresses Wednesday looking for "unmarked tapes" and wanted to "authenticate" photos taken at her daughter's recent sweet sixteen birthday party.

The birthday photos, which have circulated in the media, purport to show the daughters, 11 and 15, that Garrido allegedly had with Dugard while she was a teen sex slave.

"We have nothing to do with this. I don't have videotapes of him. He dropped the kids off at the party and picked them up. He wasn't around anyone's kids," Molino said.

"I never videotaped the girls."

She said the tapes confiscated by police include a copy of the film "Jacob's Ladder."

Molino and her husband "are not suspects or persons of interest," Jimmy Lee, a spokesman with the Contra Costa County Sheriff, told the News.

He declined to comment on any link between Garrido, who ran a home-based printing business, and child pornography.

Garrido, 58, and his wife Nancy, 54, face charges they snatched 11-year-old Dugard from South Lake Tahoe in 1991, raped her and forced her to live 18 years in an Antioch, Calif., backyard prison.

Molino said Dugard's daughters visited her auto wrecking yard with their dad several times a week starting this summer.

"They seemed like normal tweens. They didn't go hide in a corner. They helped me decorate for my daughter's party. They would help around the office, filing papers," she said.

"The 11-year-old told me she went to church in her basement. That was about the weirdest thing."

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“Her captor was her primary relationship, and the father of her two children, and at some level separation may be difficult for all of them,” said Douglas F. Goldsmith, executive director of the Children’s Center in Salt Lake City. Dr. Goldsmith added that any therapy “has to be mindful that there are three victims, not one, and that they will be entering a new life together.”

About two-thirds of children who are kidnapped or abused suffer lingering mental problems, most often symptoms of post-traumatic stress and depression.

Recent studies have found that about 80 percent of victims do show significant improvement in mood after three to four months of trauma-focused weekly therapy. Still, given the information available so far, experts say Ms. Dugard and her two children face an unusually complex task.

Her stepfather, Carl Probyn, says she has already told her mother of feeling guilt that she bonded with the man who kidnapped her when she was 11. She and her children will have to learn to connect with and trust her first family, the one from which she was taken in 1991.

“The way I think about this case is that it is an extreme version of a phenomenon that is really not that uncommon: a child engaged in an abusive relationship when young and, not knowing any better, coming to accept it as their life, adapting as best they can,” said Lucy Berliner, director of the trauma program at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle. “Certainly every case is different, but we now have some proven interventions we can use.”

Therapists say Ms. Dugard’s transition to a new life is likely to take some time, probably years. Elisabeth Fritzl, the Austrian woman held in a dungeon by her father for 24 years, has reportedly undergone extensive therapy and still struggles mentally, 16 months after she was freed.

And Shawn Hornbeck, abducted in Missouri at age 11 in 2002 and held captive for four years, told reporters nearly two years after being freed that he was still learning to cope with the emotional effects.

By contrast, Elizabeth Smart, the young woman in Utah who was kidnapped at age 14 in 2002 and held for nine months, is now reportedly doing well, a student at Brigham Young University. When she was reunited with her family, she told CNN last week, “we just spent time as a family, which was like — it was the best thing I could have done.”

The main challenge in all such cases, experts say, is breaking the bond with the captor and abuser. David Wolfe, a professor of psychology and psychiatry at the University of Toronto, has studied victims and some perpetrators of long-term abusive relationships.

In these cases, as in many kidnappings, perpetrators work hard to win the trust of their victims. “It’s a common element,” Dr. Wolfe said. “The child is frightened, and the perpetrator works to gain or regain the child’s confidence, to come across as a really good person: ‘I’m not going to hurt you, everything’s going to be O.K.’ and so on.

“So the child never knows when to fight or run,” he continued. “Do I wait and it’ll get worse? Or do I believe him and I won’t be hurt?”

Humans are wired to form social bonds, and such scraps of kindness can deepen even a relationship built on manipulation and abuse. Some victims have profoundly ambivalent feelings toward abusive captors, psychologists say, and tend to do better when they acknowledge their mixed feelings. Thinking of the perpetrator as a monster feels unfair; on the other hand, it would be wrong to call him merely misguided.

Once victims have shaken the influence of a perpetrator and re-established trust with loved ones, they can better learn through therapy how to ease the impact of their ordeal, said John A. Fairbank, a professor of psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences at Duke and co-director of the U.C.L.A.-Duke University National Center for Child Traumatic Stress.

The most rigorously tested therapy is called trauma-focused cognitive behavioral therapy. In weekly sessions over three to four months, people learn how to examine and refute suspect assumptions about their ordeal. One of the most common of these is “I can’t trust anyone anymore.” Another is “It’s my fault I didn’t resist more.”

“Of course it is not their fault, and we communicate that,” said Dr. Berliner, the Seattle therapist. “But at the same time, in many cases they did go along, they did make decisions not to fight or run, and we help people examine why they made those decisions — to understand that judging themselves harshly in retrospect might not be fair to the child they were in that moment.”

Typically, people in trauma-focused therapy also learn methods to regulate the strength of their emotions. These methods include simple breathing and relaxation techniques, as well as mindfulness, an exercise in allowing an emotion to take hold and pass without acting on it.

Finally, victims often work with the therapist to build a narrative, oral or written, of the entire ordeal, then file it as a chapter of their lives rather than the entire story. If appropriate, they may also “relive” the experience multiple times until its emotional power wanes. This approach is not for everyone — it seems to make some people more distraught — but experts say it can be helpful in some patients.

So far, Jaycee Dugard seems to be doing just as her fellow abductee Ms. Smart advised: staying with family, keeping herself and her children away from public scrutiny. Those are good instincts, therapists say.

“It’s not like resilience is out of the question in a case like this,” said Dr. Judith A. Cohen, medical director of the Center for Traumatic Stress in Children and Adolescents at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh. “In a lot of kidnapping cases, people do remarkably well, and this woman has already shown amazing survival skills.

“That she managed to survive for so long suggests that she might do well in the years to come.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/health/01psych.html?_r=1




The picture on the right appears to be of another young lady who was held hostage in Austria.  Her name is Natascha Kampusch.  There is a great deal of information available if you google her name.  She was also taken on her way to school.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/23/kampusch-kidnap-austria
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“Her captor was her primary relationship, and the father of her two children, and at some level separation may be difficult for all of them,” said Douglas F. Goldsmith, executive director of the Children’s Center in Salt Lake City. Dr. Goldsmith added that any therapy “has to be mindful that there are three victims, not one, and that they will be entering a new life together.”

About two-thirds of children who are kidnapped or abused suffer lingering mental problems, most often symptoms of post-traumatic stress and depression.

Recent studies have found that about 80 percent of victims do show significant improvement in mood after three to four months of trauma-focused weekly therapy. Still, given the information available so far, experts say Ms. Dugard and her two children face an unusually complex task.

Her stepfather, Carl Probyn, says she has already told her mother of feeling guilt that she bonded with the man who kidnapped her when she was 11. She and her children will have to learn to connect with and trust her first family, the one from which she was taken in 1991.

“The way I think about this case is that it is an extreme version of a phenomenon that is really not that uncommon: a child engaged in an abusive relationship when young and, not knowing any better, coming to accept it as their life, adapting as best they can,” said Lucy Berliner, director of the trauma program at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle. “Certainly every case is different, but we now have some proven interventions we can use.”

Therapists say Ms. Dugard’s transition to a new life is likely to take some time, probably years. Elisabeth Fritzl, the Austrian woman held in a dungeon by her father for 24 years, has reportedly undergone extensive therapy and still struggles mentally, 16 months after she was freed.

And Shawn Hornbeck, abducted in Missouri at age 11 in 2002 and held captive for four years, told reporters nearly two years after being freed that he was still learning to cope with the emotional effects.

By contrast, Elizabeth Smart, the young woman in Utah who was kidnapped at age 14 in 2002 and held for nine months, is now reportedly doing well, a student at Brigham Young University. When she was reunited with her family, she told CNN last week, “we just spent time as a family, which was like — it was the best thing I could have done.”

The main challenge in all such cases, experts say, is breaking the bond with the captor and abuser. David Wolfe, a professor of psychology and psychiatry at the University of Toronto, has studied victims and some perpetrators of long-term abusive relationships.

In these cases, as in many kidnappings, perpetrators work hard to win the trust of their victims. “It’s a common element,” Dr. Wolfe said. “The child is frightened, and the perpetrator works to gain or regain the child’s confidence, to come across as a really good person: ‘I’m not going to hurt you, everything’s going to be O.K.’ and so on.

“So the child never knows when to fight or run,” he continued. “Do I wait and it’ll get worse? Or do I believe him and I won’t be hurt?”

Humans are wired to form social bonds, and such scraps of kindness can deepen even a relationship built on manipulation and abuse. Some victims have profoundly ambivalent feelings toward abusive captors, psychologists say, and tend to do better when they acknowledge their mixed feelings. Thinking of the perpetrator as a monster feels unfair; on the other hand, it would be wrong to call him merely misguided.

Once victims have shaken the influence of a perpetrator and re-established trust with loved ones, they can better learn through therapy how to ease the impact of their ordeal, said John A. Fairbank, a professor of psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences at Duke and co-director of the U.C.L.A.-Duke University National Center for Child Traumatic Stress.

The most rigorously tested therapy is called trauma-focused cognitive behavioral therapy. In weekly sessions over three to four months, people learn how to examine and refute suspect assumptions about their ordeal. One of the most common of these is “I can’t trust anyone anymore.” Another is “It’s my fault I didn’t resist more.”

“Of course it is not their fault, and we communicate that,” said Dr. Berliner, the Seattle therapist. “But at the same time, in many cases they did go along, they did make decisions not to fight or run, and we help people examine why they made those decisions — to understand that judging themselves harshly in retrospect might not be fair to the child they were in that moment.”

Typically, people in trauma-focused therapy also learn methods to regulate the strength of their emotions. These methods include simple breathing and relaxation techniques, as well as mindfulness, an exercise in allowing an emotion to take hold and pass without acting on it.

Finally, victims often work with the therapist to build a narrative, oral or written, of the entire ordeal, then file it as a chapter of their lives rather than the entire story. If appropriate, they may also “relive” the experience multiple times until its emotional power wanes. This approach is not for everyone — it seems to make some people more distraught — but experts say it can be helpful in some patients.

So far, Jaycee Dugard seems to be doing just as her fellow abductee Ms. Smart advised: staying with family, keeping herself and her children away from public scrutiny. Those are good instincts, therapists say.

“It’s not like resilience is out of the question in a case like this,” said Dr. Judith A. Cohen, medical director of the Center for Traumatic Stress in Children and Adolescents at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh. “In a lot of kidnapping cases, people do remarkably well, and this woman has already shown amazing survival skills.

“That she managed to survive for so long suggests that she might do well in the years to come.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/health/01psych.html?_r=1




The picture on the right appears to be of another young lady who was held hostage in Austria.  Her name is Natascha Kampusch.  There is a great deal of information available if you google her name.  She was also taken on her way to school.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/23/kampusch-kidnap-austria

Thank you Mere for clearing that up.
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« Reply #874 on: September 11, 2009, 10:03:29 AM »

Yes, thank-you for clearing that up.
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« Reply #875 on: September 11, 2009, 10:23:05 AM »

Yes, thank-you for clearing that up.
Yes, thanks from me too.
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« Reply #876 on: September 11, 2009, 10:34:14 AM »

This is what I fear may happen with Jaycee. Natascha Kampusch still feels like a prisoner because of how the public acts towards her. Constantly hounding her, criticizing her, everyone wants to know what happened. It's none of our business. We know how Jaycee was abducted, this is what we need to concentrate on. That, and changing our laws where SO are concerned. Jaycee's life may be just as horrendous now, if she is not left alone to heal and get on with her life. Oprah is going to pursue this story until she gets it, and I feel that is so wrong. Yes, I'm sure Jaycee could use the money to start her new life and secure a brighter future for her girls, but would it be worth the price she will have to pay? I say no. I wish everyone would leave her alone and let her get on with her life. JMOO
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« Reply #877 on: September 11, 2009, 01:37:11 PM »

Phillip Garrido Client Wants Jaycee Dugard To Tell Truth About Ordeal

NEW YORK (CBS) "Jaycee Dugard please step forward," pleaded Cheyvonne Molino, one of Phillip Garrido’s business associates who says in recent years kidnap victim Jaycee Lee Dugard and her daughters lived in their accused kidnappers’ home, not in tents and sheds in the backyard as authorities have claimed.

Molino also wants Jaycee to clear her good name now that authorities have raided three of her properties, she says, in search of child pornography.

Molino told CBS affiliate KPIX San Francisco that she had been in the Garrido home and backyard and saw nothing suspicious, and that from what she could tell, the girls and Dugard slept in the house.

"They told you guys that that woman and her daughters were held captive til the day he released them. That was not true. And I was the only person that had visual proof that they had been out of that,” Molino told KPIX.

Molina also called out Jaycee to tell what she felt was the truth.

"Tell the media, tell the government exactly what happened to you," Molino told reporters as part of an open message to Dugard, who was kidnapped at age 11 in 1991 in South Lake Tahoe, Calif.

Dugard and her two daughters, 11 and 15, allegedly sired by Garrido, are currently sequestered with family members who she has not seen for the past 18 years.

Molino told the Early Show’s Julie Chen in an interview that she knew Garrido well. "I met his daughters, I watched them grow up."

Garrido reportedly took one or both of the young girls with him as he toured clients of his printing business, either to discuss work or to hand out religious literature.

"We got to see them more and more over the summertime, three or four times a week," Molino told "Early Show" co-anchor Julie Chen. "They were very nice and polite. They'd come out and deliver water on 102 degree weather days with their dad, stay about 10, 15 minutes, and go to the next location."

On Wednesday, authorities raided three properties owned by Molino and her husband, Jim. Molino says they took DVDs, VHS tapes, and a laptop in search of child pornography connected to Garrido's case. Authorities did not say what they were looking for.

Sheriff’s spokesman Jimmy Lee told CBS affiliate KPIX San Francisco that Jim Molino was on probation weapons violation so deputies could search his three properties without a warrant.
Authorities searched the Molinos’ business, JM Auto Wreckers in Pittsburg, Calif.; as well as two homes where the couple resided in Pleasant Hill and Bay Point, Calif.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/11/crimesider/entry5302741.shtml

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« Reply #878 on: September 11, 2009, 01:39:14 PM »

Josef Fritzl Art On Show In London

September 11, 2009
THANKS to Jaycee Dugard, and lazy hacks, Josef Fritzl is once more in the news. Perfect time then to release Euphoria, a Fritzl-inspired art show, featuring a vacant pornography film-set and a mock up of basement where Fritzl imprisoned his daughter for 24 years.

MORE....

http://thespieler.anorak.co.uk/2009/09/11/josef-fritzl-art-on-show-in-london/
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« Reply #879 on: September 11, 2009, 04:17:03 PM »

I don't know about anyone else, but I find it very odd tht Molino's wife is going on the news about the searches at their business and homes.  I think if that happened to me, guilty or not, I 'd keep my mouth shut and stay as far a way as possible from the press.

Mrs Molino  requesting a person who had been abused to clear her name..should not even be needed.  If she as nothing to hide, no child porn, no info or pics on her computer or in her home as she says, then she has no need of Jaycee's help.  Nothing to hide means nothing to indict her and her husband on. 

I don't like Mrs Molino anymore then I like PG's wife Nancy.  She keeps me in mind of someone who knows more then they are willing to share.  And saying she saw the backyard at the house..you would think if she saw it she would have suggested to PG to junk the stuff at her junk yard.  Nope something just isn't right with Mrs Molino.

             
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