Lively Case Discussion #553 12/3 - 12/4/2006

[SunnyinTX]

I have been trying to catch up on emails and one told me that Glenda/julia had been banned from RU....but has now been allowed to return....if this true it's more than funny!  LOL....anyone know anything about this?

Yes, I heard the same thing a few weeks ago.  Glenda has been posting at FOB.  MF sometimes posts at RU but mostly at FOB, same with Scubajap.  The three are rarely seen at RU but only at FOB.  

For the past couple days all three have been VERY quiet  

thanks Klass...hearing that almost makes my day!   Very quient huh!  Bet they are wishing they could find a hole to climb into...but most of them must be filled with other degenerates! I also was told you posted a great picture of renfro....the back end of an animal?   I'd
 LOVE to see it~  LOL

[Tylergal]

Evidently Crazy Joe just called in without being asked to.  Nothing was said about his being on the program until suddenly there he was screaming in the phone, like it was not planned or anticipated??

He has nothing to do with Aruba, only NY so why is he so hysterical about all this?  Oh, for one thing, he promied the sloots to make people stop saying "bad things" (read the truth) about his delinquent client.  Guess he hates it when he is powerless to do that.  

He can't control what people say or what people think or what people know and he might as well get over it.

 

I want to disagree that he called out of whole cloth.  I think it had to be a set-up as a network would refuse his call.  Incidentally this is a program that is prerecorded so it would have had to be a set up between him and the hostess in collusion with the network to have him on.  These programs are not live and do not request call in so obviously someone wanted him on as a rebuttal, probably Kimberly, perhaps JQK who wanted the world to see who the real baffoon really is.

[Katysmom]

my mailbox was just flooded with all this stuff about Natalee.  I haven't opened any of them.  Does anyone know what this is about.  I do know I haven't subscribed to any newsletter.

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[Tylergal]

Just watched the replay of The Lineup and want to make a few points.  

1.  JoeT said, as posted in the transcript above, that Carlo was in court with KJ to discuss the closing of this case ONCE AND FOR ALL.  

2.  Why oh why would Jossy Mansur be expected to give the Prosecutor a tape of the police investigator's statements about the case?  Wouldn't the prosecutor be in a position to know what the police investigator knows or has?  It's just absurd; yet Kimberly and JoeT made a fuss over it.  

3.  Doctored Dr. Phil tapes.  As I posted earlier, if that's the case, someone would have filed suit.  No brainer.  

Fiction and fantasies.  The new title of the thread for Joran's statements.  What a capitalist buffoon you are, JoeT.

 Makes me wonder if Joran confessed to Carlo and Carlo told KJ?

So who orchestrated the retraction of the story about a confession?  Was this confession presented to the Judge?

OMG its been so dang long.. IIRC it was  Rudy Croes who said there was a confession back on June 11th 2005.. it was announced on FOX.. then BOOM.. nothing.. no retraction. Thats been something thats always pissed me off til this day.

I think Dompig is the one who addressed the confession and a "brother" of Rudy Croes, via Rudy Croes made the announcement to AP.  Then it was retracted.  One big liar after another liar, lying for their lying liars with all their big lies.

[Tylergal]

Evidently Crazy Joe just called in without being asked to.  Nothing was said about his being on the program until suddenly there he was screaming in the phone, like it was not planned or anticipated??

He has nothing to do with Aruba, only NY so why is he so hysterical about all this?  Oh, for one thing, he promied the sloots to make people stop saying "bad things" (read the truth) about his delinquent client.  Guess he hates it when he is powerless to do that.  

He can't control what people say or what people think or what people know and he might as well get over it.

 

I think I posted earlier that it was always my opinion that the meeting with JoeT was planned before the van der Sloots got to NY and were served.  I think he was hired to quash the statements being made about Joran and Paulus by discrediting them and threatening to sue people.  Apparently he is still working on that.  The reason I suspect that C&C and the Excelsior are putting up money is obvious - if Joran is found guilty, they are both culpable since Joran should NOT have been in their establishments and if he hadn't been, Natalee would be alive.

I agree.

[MisGivings]

GLENDA, MF and SCUBAJAP have been noticably silient the last couple days.....wonder why?    

I don't know, but I did manage to find a childhood picture of SandraKrazy with her Mother;

[Tylergal]

Carnut.. I know of others  who feel the same as you do..
Do you think this is just a ruse? and using this for an excuse that they wouldnt go near a female?   See IMO I think Guido looks like hes a bit light in the loafers,. I know looks dont mean chit.. and I think about what None says about Dutchladys findings about the gay thingy  with Joran?
 I guess I am curious as to why you feel they arnt in a realtioinship together?

When I purused porn and gay sights that one of our respected Aruban posters frequented, by following the ISP, I found a big group hug for Joran at the European gay sites.

[Ono]

Oh, yes, and he said the documents that Beth submitted in New York were lies, the reason the case was thrown out.  Now we all know who the liar is here, it's Joe.  That was not the reason the case was thrown out.  After rewatching this, I think I know why John Q Kelly let Beth go on by herself.  He was baiting old Crazy Joe.  I would say Beth has grounds for a law suit right there when he accuses her on TV of submitting false documents to a court.  Since he is now "Joran's attorney for all times, everywhere," I would think Beth would not only be able to sue Joe but Aruba, KJ, etc., as well.

I would think so too, Tyler.  Things are getting juicey and very interesting!
Many thanks to all who transcribed...I missed 3/4 of the show.

[Tylergal]

Hi Angie!!!

 

  ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Love your pics Carpe
Guess Im still wide awake  yet..

Carpe, thanks for sharing this once again.  After seeing this in close-up today, I have decided that Joran's lazy eye is more like "crazy eye."  He really looks like some kind of crazed person with that "frightening lazy eye."  Scary, to say the least.

[MisGivings]

GLENDA, MF and SCUBAJAP have been noticably silient the last couple days.....wonder why?    

I don't know, but I did manage to find a childhood picture of SandraKrazy with her Mother;

[Tylergal]

Thanks Bleached!

Here is something I picked up...


A death at Carlos & Charlies??? Any Papiamento
speakers?

     

Hmmm, that looks like someone that might know something and got in the way of the lies from Aruba.  Then the "supposed" (accused) perpetrator kills himself.  I think not.  This is Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby all over again!  Someone silenced this kid and the guy who was the perpetrator (set up from the get go).  This just screams ARUBAN JUSTICE.  No warm bodies, no truth.

[Ono]

any thoughts about WHISKEY JOE and his hysterical rant on THE LINE UP?

He had just realized that he was onboard the Titanic.

[Tylergal]

JOE skkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeerrrrrred his DOGS

       

I hope the barking dogs didn't scare his poor children!

To me, this sounds like dogs that are scared of their master, who probably pitches fits like this with his wife and children and the dogs are voicing their disapproval.

[Tylergal]

BT, it's Monday morning.  I feel as good as anyone does on a Monday morning.  Seriously, the bone pain has backed off a little and I can feel bad at the office as easy as I can at home.  

I missed the Taco Joe extravaganza last nite.  I think my Lunesta heard him coming...............Thank goodness for YouTube!  Now I can listen to his tantrum anytime I want!

Take care of yourself, Peaches.  I am glad to know you feel like going to work but do take care.  Hugs to you.

[Tylergal]

Good Morning Monks.

I have been away for a while and missed y'all....I caught the show last night....Taco is an idiot!!  I am going to go and read and try to get caught up....I hope everyone is well....and I hope this is the break that is needed to bring JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

Good to have you back.  I am hoping you are feeling much, much better.  Hugs to you, Sunny.  We have missed our monkeys.

[Tylergal]

Well, Carnut,
Girls don't die from orgasms but people do have homosexual or bisexual realtionships all the time.  I also don't want the Dutch to think I am above smearing their man Joran just as they try to do Natalee constantly.  Dutch don't have any problem with homosexuality and do recognize same sex marriage and all the rest.

I just don't put much of anything as beneath these young thugs and also don't have any interest in protecting Joran's reputation.

But perhaps we will learn more of this sordid affair later as I don't think we have heard the last about Giudo.


Goodnight all!

Lmao @ dying from an orgasm....what a way to go...sorry, lol. I can't help myself.

Although it might sound funny, to have seen that proposed as a hypothetical back in July 2005 was not very funny.  In fact, it was maddening that the idiots Harry Tho and Dan Riehl proposed that as an excuse for Joran killing Natalee.  Just like Robots, I hate all of them.

[Tylergal]

From another site.  According to the Diario article today, Freddy Arambatzis also claims in a statement that Carlo was almost crying saying Joran needs to tell the truth.

Great find, Klaas.  But what else do I expect from you.

[Peaches]

BT, it's Monday morning.  I feel as good as anyone does on a Monday morning.  Seriously, the bone pain has backed off a little and I can feel bad at the office as easy as I can at home.  

I missed the Taco Joe extravaganza last nite.  I think my Lunesta heard him coming...............Thank goodness for YouTube!  Now I can listen to his tantrum anytime I want!

Take care of yourself, Peaches.  I am glad to know you feel like going to work but do take care.  Hugs to you.

It's not that I feel like going to the office.  They just don't pay me if I don't show up!  Some days I feel better than others just like everyone else.  You doing okay over there?  Your lovely rose avatar is still my background here at work.  Such a pretty sight any day of the week!

[Tylergal]

According to these statements we have confirmation that Joran was in fact driving the Kalpoe car.  Another lie he told on Greta.

I was told earlier in the case that Joran was driving the Deepak car and have always been told there was no proof but someone from Aruba did tell me that, the person who I do not know who was, but kept sending my DH e-mail outlining things about the case and the involvement of employees of the HI.

[Ono]

What I would like to know is how Tacopina would know first hand that Gerald Dompig was fired.  He is admitting right there that the ALE and government are keeping him informed on what is going on with the coverup.

Can you hear it now "OK Joe we took care of the Dompig issue what do you want us to do next".

Yes, that's interesting about the "firing" part, as remember, when Dompig was relieved of his duties, it was presented as a career move of sorts for him, but we all figured Dompig's 'ye olde career move' was really because we all had just seen him all over FOX, etc. stating  that  "Joran & K2 were guilty as hell" ??