Lively Case Discussion #553 12/3 - 12/4/2006

[Kat_Gram]

Does anyone remember the date when the judge was going to make a decision on the release of suspects ?

Within 2 weeks of November 30th

Ty

[klaasend]

I went to the FP and somethoing made me click on Carpe's name and I was whisked away like magic to this site.

http://www.weaselballs.com/
LOL Subtle, yet funny.        

Carpe cracks me up  

[bleachedblack]

I am so sure Freddy had a much larger part in Natalee's disappearance than we know. Since Freddie was arrested in August 2005 for allegedly taking photos/videos of underage girls and we have Satish Kalpoes statement about dropping a camera off at Freddy's , why has nothing more come foward about him?....and why did he get that GET-OUT-OF-JAIL -FREE_PASS?

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Satish Kalpoe-06/24
The second time was when Joran, my brother and I took the camera to Freddy’s house. We delivered the camera to Freddy, and afterwards all four of us ate Chinese in the area of Freddy’s house. Freddy also lives in Montanja. I do not remember his house number. We had bought food and we then we went to Joran’s apartment afterwards. According to me Freddy was informed then already about the missing girl. We may have spoken some about the missing girl, it is possible but I don’t remember.

You ask me if I was scared when we were talking with Freddy about the missing girl. It is possible that I don’t remember. I say that we, Deepak and I, did not know that Freddy knew the real story. The real story, which was on the beach. It do not understand why Freddy was told that, according to me he knew both stories already.

[robots]

Freddie knows what happened

[bleachedblack]

Satish Kalpoe 06/13

Joran´s father wanted to know everything but we did not tell him the truth. Accept Freddy, nobody knew we left Joran and the girl behind at the Marriot Beach.

[bleachedblack]

Freddie knows what happened

Robots you don't look very festive.......is that because you are moving all around that you can dress up? Maybe alittle wreath around your neck?

[robots]

Freddie knows what happened

Robots you don't look very festive.......is that because you are moving all around that you can dress up? Maybe alittle wreath around your neck?

LOL

if someone can help me, i could put a wreath on  

last week i was nekid and this week i need help getting dressed again

[Kat_Gram]

If Natalee as left for good at the beach, she would have been found.
Why do they insist over at the bad side of town any different ?
Could Joran and Freddy have gone back for her ?

[klaasend]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/robotsxmas.gif

The white part turned yellow because there is no white in your robot  

[robots]

If Natalee as left for good at the beach, she would have been found.
Why do they insist over at the bad side of town any different ?
Could Joran and Freddy have gone back for her ?

beach story is a LOAD, i think

Joran Drove GUIDO's Car after he was left walking towards the beach

[Tylergal]

In this day and age, think Natalee would have used some other reference if she used it. Hitler is still discussed in Holland and hated for what they did to the country and citizens. Anita / Paulus would have heard stories from their parents.

I don't know if Natalee said that; I've never been one to vehemently deny the likelihood.  I will say that if anyone said to me that someone they know is related to Hitler, I would take that to mean the person was strict, wanted their own way, wanted to be in control.  Nothing more.  I never understood what the big deal was, unless hit had a different meaning to Joran and others in Aruba.  Same with the "are they your slaves?" question.  If Joran is telling the Kalpoes what to do -- and from his interviews, they were at his side to do whatever he wanted -- I can see asking that.  However, since they are not caucasian, I'd think Natalee was intelligent enough to not say that.  Note to Nadira:  your sons, to me, aren't "black".  When I saw their pictures initially, I thought they looked hispanic.

My thoughts about Natalee and the possibility that she may have used/made a reference to Hitler in speaking about Beth is possible. While most of us don't think as often about such people as Hitler seniors in high schools who are often taught world history in the later grades ie juniors and seniors and have been testing (SAT's + ACT's) in the same grades may. I could very well envision my daughter calling me a Hitler . Infact awhile ago when she wanted to shave her hair off and I opposed, she called me a hair nazi . There you go......personal point of reference.

That would never have crossed a Southern girl's mind to say that.  She might say she had the "Mother from Haedes," but she would not alude to Hitler, especially since a couple of girls in her circle are Jewish.  She would probably not even say that unless Joran said, "My dad is like Hitler," and I cannot even imagine her saying her mom was like Hitler's sister, but she probably would have said, "In what way?"  That is the way girls respond with boys.  There is too little information about any conversation they had except where Joran says she made the Hiter reference, the slave reference and wanting to see sharks.  He's a liar. Natalee probably begged for her life but he could not tell that.  IF he told the truth about how she begged to be free of them or not to kill her, then his little goose thingy would be cooked.

[robots]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/robotsxmas.gif

The white part turned yellow because there is no white in your robot  

thats ok

my favorite color is yellow  

[bleachedblack]

Totally OT, but where is Mrs. Red and what about Jacquie?  I need to know something about a movie poster.  I want a movie poster that is made of wood or that I can put onto wood that says, "it's a wonderful life" to place on my black wicker swing on my porch and put lights, garlands and red bows around it.  Need movie buff help.

You can get a poster from www.allposters.com but you will probably have to mount it on wood yourself.  They have several to choose from, this is my favorite:

Saw your post and when I saw this sign on Ebay thought I link it over and ask if it is anything you might be looking for? not a movie poster size though?

http://tinyurl.com/y6plob

[Kat_Gram]

I don't think there was much of a conversation.
I really do believe that the assault started as soon as they got away from any traffic into a deserted area on the road.

[bleachedblack]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/robotsxmas.gif

The white part turned yellow because there is no white in your robot  

thats ok

my favorite color is yellow  

You look JOLLY!

[Kat_Gram]

Deepak turned the radio way up so he didn't have to listen

[robots]

joran knew Natalee was dead

they had to come up with RUN AWAY story from the get go as a possibility

thus, the HITLER remark

the DRUG BULLCRAP

etc
etc
etc
etc


it is quite boring and these people, IF YOU CAN CALL THEM PEOPLE
are really quite simple minded  when they come up with these crazy ideas

most 8 year olds think at their level of ingenuity  

[Tylergal]

Per MF...

Dompig officially retired from the Polis force today.

He will now be a rent-a-cop....errr...i mean a *security consultant*.

Ah, no Dr. Dompig, huh.  So sad.

[robots]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/robotsxmas.gif

The white part turned yellow because there is no white in your robot  

thats ok

my favorite color is yellow  

You look JOLLY!

thanks,

 im SANTA ROBOTS  

[Tylergal]

Hitler, Aryan & Slaves - Part II

The comments made during this case are different than declaring someone a "hair nazi" -- lexicon made popular during Seinfeld era on TV (soup nazi).

Re-read the comments of wever attorney Sprong and his two references to "aryan race" -- this is dramatically different and something you'd never hear in a public statment by a US attorney -- it's unheard of.

Taken as a whole ( the statements attributed to Natalee by jvds and the statements of the wever family attorney ) and in context, to me, it is clear what they are trying to say and to who they are saying it.

They are attempting to alienate European/Dutch from feeling any empathy towards HT Family.  This is just one of the numerous smear jobs afoot in this case.

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Exactly.  I have said that before, but you said it so much more succintly and eloquently.