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« Reply #1200 on: September 25, 2009, 06:42:33 AM »

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21104174/detail.html
Docs Show Caylee Evidence Destroyed
Fingerprint Test Apparently Destroyed Evidence Of Heart Sticker On Duct Tape
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Thursday, September 24, 2009
UPDATED: 6:32 am EDT September 25, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- It was one of the most jaw-dropping, heart-rending disclosures in the case against accused child killer Casey Anthony: that someone intentionally placed a heart-shaped sticker on the duct tape that was wrapped around her daughter Caylee's skull.
The claim was based on a fingerprint examiner at the Federal Bureau of Investigation laboratory reporting that she saw the shape or outline of a heart on the duct tape.

But Local 6 has learned no one else will ever see what that examiner saw because all traces of it were destroyed by testing at the FBI lab.

The Orange County Sheriff's Office cited that report in obtaining a search warrant for arts and crafts materials in the Anthony family home, swearing the FBI lab "noticed residue in the perfect shape of a heart. The heart was not hand drawn and residue appeared to be consistent with the adhesive side of a heart shaped sticker. It appears the sticker was put on the tape intentionally."

The search warrant was approved, and detectives recovered dozens of heart stickers and the empty backings for heart stickers from the Anthony home during the search on Dec. 20, 2008, nine days after Caylee's body was found dumped in nearby woods.

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.

Some evidence photos have been withheld from public release, so it is not known if any other agency took photos that show an outline of a heart on the tape. But there has been no mention of other such photos in any of the discovery released so far.

Without such an image, a jury will never get to see exactly what was on the duct tape and the size of the outline of the heart cannot be exactly compared to the stickers recovered.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder, child abuse and other crimes in connection with the murder of Caylee, who was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Caylee's remains were found in December. Casey Anthony faces a possible death penalty if convicted.
The disclosure that potential evidence was destroyed comes in a document turned over to the defense but not yet released by the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office, which has made public 8,000 pages of discovery in the criminal case.

Page 9316 of the discovery, obtained by Local 6 before its official release, is a handwritten FBI Laboratory Activity and Communication Log. In it, FBI lab request coordinator Erin P. Martin makes notes of conversations between FBI agents in the field and the lab in Quantico, Va.

On Dec. 13, two days after the body was found, she describes how Elizabeth K. Fontaine, a forensic examiner in the lab's latent print operations unit, noticed "a heart shape/outline" on the duct tape, but was "unable to see it after powder process." That process is used to lift any fingerprints from materials. No such prints were found on the tape, according to previously released FBI lab reports.

But the presence of a heart shape on the tape begs an obvious question: Did the FBI lab photograph the outline of the heart before it was apparently obliterated by the powder process?

Martin answers the question with her next notation: "No photo of image."

But agents assisting the sheriff's office at the crime scene were clearly intrigued.

Two days later, on Dec. 15, 2008, Martin logs a call from an FBI evidence response team agent working in Orlando: "Agent wanted to know if TEU (the lab's trace evidence unit) saw anything on tape." Martin apparently checks and writes next: "Per TEU: No, didn't see any heart-shaped item."

She then checks again with the latent print unit and writes: "Shape/outline was … near end on non-adh(esive) side."

And that's the last mention of the heart shape in the five-page FBI communication log, which ends on Dec. 22, 2008.
While a jury will apparently never see the image that Fontaine reported seeing, prosecutors could seek to introduce testimony at trial about the shape or outline of a heart on the duct tape.

The warrant shows investigators clearly tried to tie any heart stickers found in the Anthony home to the reported shape on the duct tape and another heart sticker found in the woods near Caylee's body. The warrant notes "in the search area investigators located a small heart-shaped sticker similar in size to the residue found on the duct tape."

But the sticker found in the woods was 30 to 40 feet away from where Caylee's skull was found, and it was affixed to cardboard. Also, Local 6 compared it to the heart stickers and sticker sheets found in the Anthony home and found it was not an exact match to any of those photographed and released so far in discovery to the public.

Local 6 left a message with FBI fingerprint analyst Fontaine, asking why she did not take a photo of the image before conducting the powder test that apparently destroyed any trace of it. The phone call has not been returned.
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« Reply #1201 on: September 25, 2009, 06:46:49 AM »

Evidence Destroyed: Video
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/21110409/index.html
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« Reply #1202 on: September 25, 2009, 07:13:20 AM »

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« Reply #1203 on: September 25, 2009, 07:36:41 AM »

The sticker is irrelevant. Who cares.... tape around the skull matches the rare tape found at the A's. FRY HER! 
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« Reply #1204 on: September 25, 2009, 07:40:50 AM »

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« Reply #1205 on: September 25, 2009, 07:44:27 AM »

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/casey-cindy-and-georgelies-part-1-2-of-4/

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✼JUSTICE for CAYLEE✼
Casey, Cindy and George…lies part 1,2, 3 and 4

A friend brought this to my attention.....In the first video at this link, George is talking with LE and he talks about the J. Blanchard abduction of Caylee, around the 2:20 mark. First he says that Jesse held Casey down, then he goes to say that Zenaida did it. Now look at the date of the LE interview video....it is 7/31/08.  Casey's first and long time standing story was that she left Caylee with Zanny at Sawgrass apartments, she wrote it in her first statement. She was arrested the next day and put in jail.

The first we heard about the J Blanchard Park abduction was from LP, and I thought that Casey had changed her story and told LP or Tracy this. Well, that just can't be true, because here is George telling the JBP story in July, while Casey is still in jail. We have not seen a jail visitation video with Casey, George and Cindy that shows this being talked about....we have not heard a jailhouse phone call audio tape that tells this story either.

A lot of people thought that LP had made up this story, but again, that can't be the case because LP wasn't even in the picture at this time. Something is very fishy here, to me at least. Either these videos and jail phone calls have never been released....or this story was concocted at the Anthony home before LE showed up to begin with. I'm thinking the latter....a little kitchen table talk between Casey, Cindy and Lee, to come up with an abduction story and George was later told this story and repeated it during this interview. I have always thought in the back of my mind that the Anthonys knew what happened to Caylee, at the hands of the spiteful biotch, and since duct tape was used to kill her, they came up with the abduction story.  But even if I'm wrong, there is something very wrong about this. These are my thoughts and opinions only.
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« Reply #1206 on: September 25, 2009, 07:55:52 AM »

The sticker is irrelevant. Who cares.... tape around the skull matches the rare tape found at the A's. FRY HER! 

Thanks,Nutt.I needed that!
      
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« Reply #1207 on: September 25, 2009, 08:06:49 AM »

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21104174/detail.html
Docs Show Caylee Evidence Destroyed
Fingerprint Test Apparently Destroyed Evidence Of Heart Sticker On Duct Tape
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Thursday, September 24, 2009
UPDATED: 7:27 am EDT September 25, 2009
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The disclosure that potential evidence was destroyed comes in a document turned over to the defense but not yet released by the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office, which has made public 8,000 pages of discovery in the criminal case.

Page 9316 of the discovery, obtained by Local 6 before its official release, is a handwritten FBI Laboratory Activity and Communication Log. In it, FBI lab request coordinator Erin P. Martin makes notes of conversations between FBI agents in the field and the lab in Quantico, Va.

On Dec. 13, two days after the body was found, she describes how Elizabeth K. Fontaine, a forensic examiner in the lab's latent print operations unit, noticed "a heart shape/outline" on the duct tape, but was "unable to see it after powder process." That process is used to lift any fingerprints from materials. No such prints were found on the tape, according to previously released FBI lab reports.

But the presence of a heart shape on the tape begs an obvious question: Did the FBI lab photograph the outline of the heart before it was apparently obliterated by the powder process?

Martin answers the question with her next notation: "No photo of image."

But agents assisting the sheriff's office at the crime scene were clearly intrigued.

Two days later, on Dec. 15, 2008, Martin logs a call from an FBI evidence response team agent working in Orlando: "Agent wanted to know if TEU (the lab's trace evidence unit) saw anything on tape." Martin apparently checks and writes next: "Per TEU: No, didn't see any heart-shaped item."

She then checks again with the latent print unit and writes: "Shape/outline was … near end on non-adh(esive) side."

And that's the last mention of the heart shape in the five-page FBI communication log, which ends on Dec. 22, 2008.
While a jury will apparently never see the image that Fontaine reported seeing, prosecutors could seek to introduce testimony at trial about the shape or outline of a heart on the duct tape.

The warrant shows investigators clearly tried to tie any heart stickers found in the Anthony home to the reported shape on the duct tape and another heart sticker found in the woods near Caylee's body. The warrant notes "in the search area investigators located a small heart-shaped sticker similar in size to the residue found on the duct tape."

But the sticker found in the woods was 30 to 40 feet away from where Caylee's skull was found, and it was affixed to cardboard. Also, Local 6 compared it to the heart stickers and sticker sheets found in the Anthony home and found it was not an exact match to any of those photographed and released so far in discovery to the public.

Local 6 left a message with FBI fingerprint analyst Fontaine, asking why she did not take a photo of the image before conducting the powder test that apparently destroyed any trace of it. The phone call has not been returned.
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« Reply #1208 on: September 25, 2009, 08:26:53 AM »

I agree it really doesnt matter about the sticker, but this will be a way for the defense to say well what else did they destroy.
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« Reply #1209 on: September 25, 2009, 08:57:16 AM »

I agree it really doesnt matter about the sticker, but this will be a way for the defense to say well what else did they destroy.

You know they'll spin it anyway they can.   
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« Reply #1210 on: September 25, 2009, 09:02:14 AM »

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/casey-cindy-and-georgelies-part-1-2-of-4/

✼HumbleOpinion's Weblog✼

✼JUSTICE for CAYLEE✼
Casey, Cindy and George…lies part 1,2, 3 and 4

A friend brought this to my attention.....In the first video at this link, George is talking with LE and he talks about the J. Blanchard abduction of Caylee, around the 2:20 mark. First he says that Jesse held Casey down, then he goes to say that Zenaida did it. Now look at the date of the LE interview video....it is 7/31/08.  Casey's first and long time standing story was that she left Caylee with Zanny at Sawgrass apartments, she wrote it in her first statement. She was arrested the next day and put in jail.

The first we heard about the J Blanchard Park abduction was from LP, and I thought that Casey had changed her story and told LP or Tracy this. Well, that just can't be true, because here is George telling the JBP story in July, while Casey is still in jail. We have not seen a jail visitation video with Casey, George and Cindy that shows this being talked about....we have not heard a jailhouse phone call audio tape that tells this story either.

A lot of people thought that LP had made up this story, but again, that can't be the case because LP wasn't even in the picture at this time. Something is very fishy here, to me at least. Either these videos and jail phone calls have never been released....or this story was concocted at the Anthony home before LE showed up to begin with. I'm thinking the latter....a little kitchen table talk between Casey, Cindy and Lee, to come up with an abduction story and George was later told this story and repeated it during this interview. I have always thought in the back of my mind that the Anthonys knew what happened to Caylee, at the hands of the spiteful biotch, and since duct tape was used to kill her, they came up with the abduction story.  But even if I'm wrong, there is something very wrong about this. These are my thoughts and opinions only.



IMOO I'm thinking big daddy detective might have called for a damage control meeting for his “hand corporation” to make up a new scheme that doesn’t make any more sense than the first one.  I doubt they are so stupid as to have made it up during a jail visit, because they KNEW they were being recorded. Plus, that would be a real feather in LE’s cap and concrete evidence to put the entire appalling family in their place. But, I’m not sure it will make much difference unless KC changed her statement to LE. I still don’t see this case going to trial. If it does, Bozo would be a fool to let KC testify and all the defense can do is try to tear apart whatever the State presents. This case holds no facts for the defense to present.

WE have heard all the family's  jail conversations, but her conversation with Baez is privileged, not recorded, so the new theory - Jesse held her down, Zenaida held her down, Samantha held her down, whichever one sounded most plausible, could have been suggested to George by  Baez after meeting with Casey...   you can tell by the tone of George's voice that he doesn't believe what he's suggesting anyway, just rooting around for some answer to what really happened.
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« Reply #1211 on: September 25, 2009, 09:03:07 AM »

Good Morning!   an angelic monkey

I am half asleep and have had no coffee yet. But in reference to the sticker, did I not remember Dr G was the one that discovered the outline of the sticker on the duct tape she removed from Caylee's skull, and even returned to the scene while the bones were still gathered to look for the sticker? Surely there were numerous pictures taken by her and her morgue workers during that part of the autopsy, as she is very thorough. I will drink some coffee and try to be a little more coherent.
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« Reply #1212 on: September 25, 2009, 09:12:37 AM »

Morning all. I just emailed Leonard Padilla with a copy of the videos where George puts forward the 'Zenaida held me down theory'   to ask his opinion.  I hope he reads and responds.
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« Reply #1213 on: September 25, 2009, 09:21:47 AM »

The sticker is irrelevant. Who cares.... tape around the skull matches the rare tape found at the A's. FRY HER! 
Nut, does that mean they can throw out the evidence they took during the search warrant when they were looking for stickers when trial comes? TIA JSM

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« Reply #1214 on: September 25, 2009, 09:46:19 AM »

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     
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« Reply #1215 on: September 25, 2009, 09:48:20 AM »

Casey Anthony: WKMG says FBI destroyed crucial evidence in case against Casey Anthony
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How did this happen? "Any outline was obliterated in the fingerprint-testing process," Pipitone read from a report that station had obtained before its official release.

And Pipitone added that the FBI didn't take a photo of the heart-shaped image before the testing, which revealed no fingerprints on the duct tape.

The FBI had refused to comment on the revelation that it didn't take a photo, Pipitone said.

"We don't know if some other agency might have taken a similar picture that shows such an outline," Pipitone said. "But we know that there's no mention of such a photo in the 8,000 pages that have been released so far."

It was another first-rate report from Pipitone. And he promised a follow-up today: an interview with a former prosecutor about the revelation could mean to the case.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-wkmg-says-fbi-destroyed-crucial-evidence.html
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« Reply #1216 on: September 25, 2009, 09:51:33 AM »

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     

What have we been looking at all these months- a red heart sticker- where did that image come from?
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« Reply #1217 on: September 25, 2009, 09:55:20 AM »

Good morning, monkeys.  I hate this type of news, whether it has any real bearing on the case or not, I just know the defense will try to make hay out of it.   
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« Reply #1218 on: September 25, 2009, 09:56:11 AM »

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     

What have we been looking at all these months- a red heart sticker- where did that image come from?
That's a great question, Western O, someone must have taken a pic somewhere.
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« Reply #1219 on: September 25, 2009, 10:10:33 AM »

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     

What have we been looking at all these months- a red heart sticker- where did that image come from?
I have to say I'm very confused, and I'm sure the ME took a picture, no, or am I way off base thinking that 
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