Natalee Case Discussion #825 10/12/09 - 11/07/09

[Tamikosmom]

When the date of Robin Holloway's post is considered and the date that the FBI received the samples taken from the trap ... what are the implication of her words?

Janet

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Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 -
« Reply #446 on: January 23, 2008, 06:04:23 PM »

Today at 2:34pm, Reality wrote:
Without going into detail, there has been nothing found regarding Natalee other than some Coral and Debris, I'm sure Robin will explain."

Today at 2:38pm by Robin
If the prosecutors office has evidence relating to Natalee we would have known about it. The crew on the Persistence is working very hard to try, but still nothing of her. They did have something tested that didn't turn out to be anything to do with Natalee but it has been a few weeks ago.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2532.msg331495#msg331495

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FBI ANALYSIS

Press release

Postbus 1163, Oranjestad, Aruba
Havenstraat 2
Oranjestad
Aruba

To All media
From The Public Prosecutor’s Office
Date February 26, 2008

Pages 1

Cloth found in crab trap not a match with sample of blouse Holloway, according to FBI Laboratory.

The Prosecutors’ Office of Aruba has received the results of the comparison tests done by the FBI Laboratory in the United States of America on clothing, cloth or a textile of some type recovered in January 2008 by an Aruban dive team inside a crab trap in about 90 feet of water, off the coast of Aruba. The Aruban dive team was directed to the crab trap by the crew of the vessel “Persistence” that is conducting a sea search looking for the body of Natalee Holloway. The Persistence is searching for a crab trap based on the story that the body of Natalee Holloway was disposed of and placed in a similar device.

The Aruban Police requested the FBI Laboratory to process the cloth, because the Laboratory already had a sample of the exact match of the type of material of Natalee Holloway’s blouse.  The FBI Laboratory received that material on the 22nd of January 2008.

On the 25th of February 2008, the Prosecutors’ Office received the official report from the FBI Laboratory that showed that the two materials were not a match.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_64135.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Booshi Wever new leader MEP

October 22, 2009, 13:44 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Candelario "Booshi" Weaver is the new leader of political party MEP. That was yesterday unanimously decided by a political group of the yellow party. Edison Briessen is acting leader. This puts an end to four years of Leader, Ady Thijssen. Monday during a party meeting decided that the MEP in the group would be left to choose the new president. That was yesterday so the name of outgoing Minister for Health, Environment, Administrative and Immigration forward. When asked why he and not number two on the list of MEP Marisol Lopez-Tromp was group chairman, Weaver replied: "She has no interest. It was not a question of Marisol and me, it was a unanimous decision of the group. "

Isn't Booshi the one said to own the houses of prostitution in Venezuela?

I think so, and I remember this too:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=188.0

Title: Murder and Crime Rate In Aruba
Post by: msmarple on January 12, 2007, 12:28:47 PM
Posted by klaas in LCD 01/12/2007:

Translation of a Diario article by Crioyo on the front page of SM:
Diario 01/09/2007:

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/1/9/

He reportedly paid 250 thousand dollars for his liberty in Venezuela.

CANDELARIO WEVER CAUGHT WITH 3 AND A HALF KILO’S OF COCAINE AND 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ORANJESTAD (AAN) — For a few months now there have been strong rumors circulating that a person from Aruba would have been arrested in the exterior / a foreign country where he would have been found with lots of thousands of dollars and also a few kilo’s of an illegal substance, drugs.

Because this information kept circulating and ‘’persisting'’ and there was a lot of speculation regarding who would be involved, some figuring out and investigations had to have been done to find out in which country of the region the Aruban in question had been detained and what he had in his possesion that got him in trouble with the law.

After a few months a name began circulating and that’s also why questions were asked regarding a certain Candelario Wever of Aruba who would’ve been involved.

This is about a Candelario Wever who had been caught with a few hundred thousands dollars and a few kilo’s of cocaine, but how many Candelario Wever’s are there on Aruba and who was this Candelario Wever who supposedly works as an adviser or assistant at a certain government department?

After intense investigation, foreign documents arrived on which reads a serious case of bribery in which this Candelario Wever of Aruba was involved.

Like the readers can read today on these foreign documents, it is apparent on October 15th 2006 in Venezuela, two police officers caught three people, Macho, Hector and a Candelario Wever whom were in possesion of 3 and a half kilo’s of cocaine.

According to these documents, the Candelario Wever of Dutch nationality, identified himself with documents, as Assistant Adviser of the Minister of Health in Aruba (in this document it says ‘’Araba'’ but this must be ‘’Aruba'’).

The two other persons would’ve remained in custody while the Candelario Wever would have managed to free himself with 250,000 Dollars!!!

A criminal investigation is reportedly being done against the two police officers in Venezuela for accusations of bribery, violation of rules of the deparment of justice and also they are reportedly under investigation for extortion.

This is a very serious case and the moment has come when light must be shed on who this certain Candelario Wever is who has identified himself in Venezuela as Assistant Adviser of the Minister of Health of Aruba, when he was caught together with the other two persons with three and a half kilo’s of cocaine and 250,000 dollars.

In Aruba everybody knows a Candelario Wever, whom is Booshi Wever, but as minister and not as any kind of assistand to the Ministry of Health and that’s also why this deal must be clarified, whether there are people misusing names of government employees or officials of Aruba and so putting both the government of Aruba as the minister in charge of the ministry of health in a negative light.

Because the case took place in a country outside the kingdom of the netherlands where a dutch citizen was detained related to three and a half kilo’s of cocaine and also 250,000 US dollars, the department of external relations of The Netherlands will have to do an investigation to figure out whom this Dutchman carrying the name Candelario Wever is and how he could’ve gotten his liberty with 250,000 dollars and where this money could’ve come from.

It is not known whether authorities in Venezuela alerted Dutch Authorities about this case or if they are going to seek the arrest of this Candelario Wever, who presented himself as a government official of Aruba, via Interpol.

(end of article)

msmarple notes:

3.5 kilos = 7.7 lbs. And the article is talking about $250,000 US dollars.

Thanks to Crioyo for the translation.

[Keepthefaith]

When the date of Robin Holloway's post is considered and the date that the FBI received the samples taken from the trap ... what are the implication of her words?

Janet

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 -
« Reply #446 on: January 23, 2008, 06:04:23 PM »

Today at 2:34pm, Reality wrote:
Without going into detail, there has been nothing found regarding Natalee other than some Coral and Debris, I'm sure Robin will explain."

Today at 2:38pm by Robin
If the prosecutors office has evidence relating to Natalee we would have known about it. The crew on the Persistence is working very hard to try, but still nothing of her. They did have something tested that didn't turn out to be anything to do with Natalee but it has been a few weeks ago.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2532.msg331495#msg331495

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FBI ANALYSIS

Press release

Postbus 1163, Oranjestad, Aruba
Havenstraat 2
Oranjestad
Aruba

To All media
From The Public Prosecutor’s Office
Date February 26, 2008

Pages 1

Cloth found in crab trap not a match with sample of blouse Holloway, according to FBI Laboratory.

The Prosecutors’ Office of Aruba has received the results of the comparison tests done by the FBI Laboratory in the United States of America on clothing, cloth or a textile of some type recovered in January 2008 by an Aruban dive team inside a crab trap in about 90 feet of water, off the coast of Aruba. The Aruban dive team was directed to the crab trap by the crew of the vessel “Persistence” that is conducting a sea search looking for the body of Natalee Holloway. The Persistence is searching for a crab trap based on the story that the body of Natalee Holloway was disposed of and placed in a similar device.

The Aruban Police requested the FBI Laboratory to process the cloth, because the Laboratory already had a sample of the exact match of the type of material of Natalee Holloway’s blouse.  The FBI Laboratory received that material on the 22nd of January 2008.

On the 25th of February 2008, the Prosecutors’ Office received the official report from the FBI Laboratory that showed that the two materials were not a match.

How could they have known the results 24hrs later?

[Tamikosmom]

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 197:  There is apparently no amount of money in the world that can get us the answer to what happened to Natalee.  When I asked an Aruban attorney about this, his response was chilling:  "The threat is bigger than the money," he says.  The threat.  That dark influence.  The evil that nothing and no one can pierce.

On this Beth Holloway and Tamikosmom will have to agree to disagree.

One day ... someone with knowledge will come to place in his/her life when he/she will bow and ... the truth encompassing the disappearance of her Natalee will pierce the darkness ... the evil.

Janet

TB
 

[texasmom]

Another thing that comes to mind about Booshi Wever:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=4717.0

Title: Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 19, 2009, 06:34:57 PM
Quote from: texasmom on March 19, 2009, 06:17:26 PM

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_54133.php

Google translation:

Aruba
Requirement eight years imprisonment for fraud suspect Landslab
March 19, 2009, 14:51 (GMT -04:00)


ORANGE CITY - By Maiky Faro, main suspect in embezzlement of millions florin of the Land Laboratory, the prosecutor demanded eight years in prison.

The officer has accomplices Yolanda Vrolijk and Jacqueline Geerman respectively four and three years imprisonment demanded.

Merry may Geerman and five years for public works. Faro is in the retirement age. The judge is ruling on April 3 leading in this case. Depending on what the court decided, would cheerful and Geerman, now at large again in the cell should.

The public demanded a high prison for Faro based because he considered that this proven ten million florin has darkened and he shows no remorse for what he did. As the head office of the Land Laboratory, the main suspect decade falsified invoices and purchase orders of an existing company in the United States (U.S.) of which he was director.

The officer has an accomplice Geerman 32 checks in the U.S. which they collected 455,000 florin has gathered. There is evidence that significant amounts of money they have paid into the bank account of her child, and that its power has grown since 2002 with more than 300,000 florin. Merry between 2002 and 2007 a total of 232,000 florin received on its behalf. The officer believes that it is not the truth in order to obtain the money to talk.
 

False rumors
During the treatment of the fraud, the prosecutor argued that rumors were circulating on the financing of the election of political party MEP by Faro prime suspect in the fraud money. According to the officer, these are false rumors because research has shown that this is not true. From that research has shown that Faro a large part of the millions he lost in a decade, has spent.

Of course, he lost the money gambling in the casino...no way would he have "shared" money with the Minister, in charge of the lab, Booshi Wever......

[Tamikosmom]

When the date of Robin Holloway's post is considered and the date that the FBI received the samples taken from the trap ... what are the implication of her words?

Janet

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Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 -
« Reply #446 on: January 23, 2008, 06:04:23 PM »

Today at 2:34pm, Reality wrote:
Without going into detail, there has been nothing found regarding Natalee other than some Coral and Debris, I'm sure Robin will explain."

Today at 2:38pm by Robin
If the prosecutors office has evidence relating to Natalee we would have known about it. The crew on the Persistence is working very hard to try, but still nothing of her. They did have something tested that didn't turn out to be anything to do with Natalee but it has been a few weeks ago.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2532.msg331495#msg331495

++++++++++

FBI ANALYSIS

Press release

Postbus 1163, Oranjestad, Aruba
Havenstraat 2
Oranjestad
Aruba

To All media
From The Public Prosecutor’s Office
Date February 26, 2008

Pages 1

Cloth found in crab trap not a match with sample of blouse Holloway, according to FBI Laboratory.

The Prosecutors’ Office of Aruba has received the results of the comparison tests done by the FBI Laboratory in the United States of America on clothing, cloth or a textile of some type recovered in January 2008 by an Aruban dive team inside a crab trap in about 90 feet of water, off the coast of Aruba. The Aruban dive team was directed to the crab trap by the crew of the vessel “Persistence” that is conducting a sea search looking for the body of Natalee Holloway. The Persistence is searching for a crab trap based on the story that the body of Natalee Holloway was disposed of and placed in a similar device.

The Aruban Police requested the FBI Laboratory to process the cloth, because the Laboratory already had a sample of the exact match of the type of material of Natalee Holloway’s blouse.  The FBI Laboratory received that material on the 22nd of January 2008.

On the 25th of February 2008, the Prosecutors’ Office received the official report from the FBI Laboratory that showed that the two materials were not a match.

The FBI didn't recieve the sample until the 22nd of Jan.Robin & Reality post the next day the results of the sampling?How can that be?

Keepthefaith

It can't be!  The implication is that the contents must have been tested prior to Richardson sending them to the FBI on January 22, 2008.

Who are "They" and ... why did it take Richardson over two weeks to send the samplings from the trap/cage to the FBI?

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Keepthefaith

The following words of Kyle Kingman convince me that the contents of the cage/trap were test prior to Richardson sending the samplings to the FBI on January 22, 2008.

Janet

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Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman: "10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes I met Mos downtown in public"

During this time, I was eagerly waiting for results from the Jan-7th trap samples. I expected him to know something by then. When we met, he asked me how I was doing and he said that he was suprised that I was still in Aruba. After some small talk back and forth, he asked when I was leaving. I flipped the question around on him, asking, "Hans, you tell me. When am I going home?" With that, he hesitated. It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?" He looked around for anyone watching or listening, leaned forward and said into my ear: "ten days". He then turned and walked away without saying another word.

I had no idea what 10 days meant at the time, but it meant something big was going to happen. I had assumed it related to the trap and it's contents, but couldn't prove anything. Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes. I was really confused and didn't know what to feel. I honestly was a little dissapointed that the 10 days was about the confession tapes.

Kermit - scaredmonkeys.net

[Tamikosmom]

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Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 -
« Reply #446 on: January 23, 2008, 06:04:23 PM »

Today at 2:34pm, Reality wrote:
Without going into detail, there has been nothing found regarding Natalee other than some Coral and Debris, I'm sure Robin will explain."

Today at 2:38pm by Robin
If the prosecutors office has evidence relating to Natalee we would have known about it. The crew on the Persistence is working very hard to try, but still nothing of her. They did have something tested that didn't turn out to be anything to do with Natalee but it has been a few weeks ago.

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How could they have known the results 24hrs later?

Keepthefaith

Read Robin Holloway's post again.  The implication appears to be that she had known the results from the getgo.  On January 23th the words of her post state "They did have something tested that didn't turn out to be anything to do with Natalee but it has been a few weeks ago."

Janet

[Keepthefaith]

When the date of Robin Holloway's post is considered and the date that the FBI received the samples taken from the trap ... what are the implication of her words?

Janet

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Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 -
« Reply #446 on: January 23, 2008, 06:04:23 PM »

Today at 2:34pm, Reality wrote:
Without going into detail, there has been nothing found regarding Natalee other than some Coral and Debris, I'm sure Robin will explain."

Today at 2:38pm by Robin
If the prosecutors office has evidence relating to Natalee we would have known about it. The crew on the Persistence is working very hard to try, but still nothing of her. They did have something tested that didn't turn out to be anything to do with Natalee but it has been a few weeks ago.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2532.msg331495#msg331495

++++++++++

FBI ANALYSIS

Press release

Postbus 1163, Oranjestad, Aruba
Havenstraat 2
Oranjestad
Aruba

To All media
From The Public Prosecutor’s Office
Date February 26, 2008

Pages 1

Cloth found in crab trap not a match with sample of blouse Holloway, according to FBI Laboratory.

The Prosecutors’ Office of Aruba has received the results of the comparison tests done by the FBI Laboratory in the United States of America on clothing, cloth or a textile of some type recovered in January 2008 by an Aruban dive team inside a crab trap in about 90 feet of water, off the coast of Aruba. The Aruban dive team was directed to the crab trap by the crew of the vessel “Persistence” that is conducting a sea search looking for the body of Natalee Holloway. The Persistence is searching for a crab trap based on the story that the body of Natalee Holloway was disposed of and placed in a similar device.

The Aruban Police requested the FBI Laboratory to process the cloth, because the Laboratory already had a sample of the exact match of the type of material of Natalee Holloway’s blouse.  The FBI Laboratory received that material on the 22nd of January 2008.

On the 25th of February 2008, the Prosecutors’ Office received the official report from the FBI Laboratory that showed that the two materials were not a match.

The FBI didn't recieve the sample until the 22nd of Jan.Robin & Reality post the next day the results of the sampling?How can that be?

Keepthefaith

It can't be!  The implication is that the contents must have been tested prior to Richardson sending them to the FBI on January 22, 2008.

Who are "They" and ... why did it take Richardson over two weeks to send the samplings from the trap/cage to the FBI?

Janet

EXACTLY...AND THEY TRUST RICHARDSON(ALE)?IF THAT ISN'T A HINKY METER MACHINE WAITING TO BLOW UP,I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS....

[Tamikosmom]

Good Night Monkeys.

 

Janet
7:30 PM PT

[Keepthefaith]

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Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 -
« Reply #446 on: January 23, 2008, 06:04:23 PM »

Today at 2:34pm, Reality wrote:
Without going into detail, there has been nothing found regarding Natalee other than some Coral and Debris, I'm sure Robin will explain."

Today at 2:38pm by Robin
If the prosecutors office has evidence relating to Natalee we would have known about it. The crew on the Persistence is working very hard to try, but still nothing of her. They did have something tested that didn't turn out to be anything to do with Natalee but it has been a few weeks ago.

<snipped>

How could they have known the results 24hrs later?

Keepthefaith

Read Robin Holloway's post again.  The implication appears to be that she had known the results from the getgo.  On January 23th the words of her post state "They did have something tested that didn't turn out to be anything to do with Natalee but it has been a few weeks ago."

Janet

A few would be 21 days,a couple would be 14..14 would make it Jan 9th,21 would make it Dec 29th...Either way something is very wrong with those words.NO?

[Keepthefaith]

Good Night Monkeys.

 

Janet
7:30 PM PT

GoodNight Janet.I'm proud of you for staying on the sidewalk like a big girl!

[wreck]

You are right .... it CAN'T be! My guess is that Arubans (and most likely the traitorous Silvetti) merely TOLD the Holloways that the items were tested and that NOTHING panned out! The other thought is that they sent items to the Netherlands BEFORE they sent samples to our FBI. Of course no one knows just exactly what "samples" were even tested anyways! 

[Keepthefaith]

You are right .... it CAN'T be! My guess is that Arubans (and most likely the traitorous Silvetti) merely TOLD the Holloways that the items were tested and that NOTHING panned out! The other thought is that they sent items to the Netherlands BEFORE they sent samples to our FBI. Of course no one knows just exactly what "samples" were even tested anyways! 

Very true Wreck.Inquiring minds want to know,who specifically gave Robin that information.....

[billb's daughter]

You are right .... it CAN'T be! My guess is that Arubans (and most likely the traitorous Silvetti) merely TOLD the Holloways that the items were tested and that NOTHING panned out! The other thought is that they sent items to the Netherlands BEFORE they sent samples to our FBI. Of course no one knows just exactly what "samples" were even tested anyways! 

Very true Wreck.Inquiring minds want to know,who specifically gave Robin that information.....

Wreck, ktf...
What Janet brought forward about Robin's comments and the date is definitely hinky...
I can only guess when Tim told Dave after the 29 Dec ROV pics that he was 99.9% sure they found Natalee....that there was a discussion of evidence recovery and analysis of evidence by (some agency-fbi-aruba ale-NL?).
Make me wonder if some samples were taken on the 30th dive and sent off for analysis to some agency...
And the 7 Jan aruba only diver collection of evidence completed the removal of any remaining evidence...
 

[Magnolia]

Another thing that comes to mind about Booshi Wever:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=4717.0

Title: Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 19, 2009, 06:34:57 PM
Quote from: texasmom on March 19, 2009, 06:17:26 PM

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_54133.php

Google translation:

Aruba
Requirement eight years imprisonment for fraud suspect Landslab
March 19, 2009, 14:51 (GMT -04:00)


ORANGE CITY - By Maiky Faro, main suspect in embezzlement of millions florin of the Land Laboratory, the prosecutor demanded eight years in prison.

The officer has accomplices Yolanda Vrolijk and Jacqueline Geerman respectively four and three years imprisonment demanded.

Merry may Geerman and five years for public works. Faro is in the retirement age. The judge is ruling on April 3 leading in this case. Depending on what the court decided, would cheerful and Geerman, now at large again in the cell should.

The public demanded a high prison for Faro based because he considered that this proven ten million florin has darkened and he shows no remorse for what he did. As the head office of the Land Laboratory, the main suspect decade falsified invoices and purchase orders of an existing company in the United States (U.S.) of which he was director.

The officer has an accomplice Geerman 32 checks in the U.S. which they collected 455,000 florin has gathered. There is evidence that significant amounts of money they have paid into the bank account of her child, and that its power has grown since 2002 with more than 300,000 florin. Merry between 2002 and 2007 a total of 232,000 florin received on its behalf. The officer believes that it is not the truth in order to obtain the money to talk.
 

False rumors
During the treatment of the fraud, the prosecutor argued that rumors were circulating on the financing of the election of political party MEP by Faro prime suspect in the fraud money. According to the officer, these are false rumors because research has shown that this is not true. From that research has shown that Faro a large part of the millions he lost in a decade, has spent.

Of course, he lost the money gambling in the casino...no way would he have "shared" money with the Minister, in charge of the lab, Booshi Wever......

CROOKS!  All of them.

[wreck]

You are right .... it CAN'T be! My guess is that Arubans (and most likely the traitorous Silvetti) merely TOLD the Holloways that the items were tested and that NOTHING panned out! The other thought is that they sent items to the Netherlands BEFORE they sent samples to our FBI. Of course no one knows just exactly what "samples" were even tested anyways! 

Very true Wreck.Inquiring minds want to know,who specifically gave Robin that information.....

Wreck, ktf...
What Janet brought forward about Robin's comments and the date is definitely hinky...
I can only guess when Tim told Dave after the 29 Dec ROV pics that he was 99.9% sure they found Natalee....that there was a discussion of evidence recovery and analysis of evidence by (some agency-fbi-aruba ale-NL?).
Make me wonder if some samples were taken on the 30th dive and sent off for analysis to some agency...
And the 7 Jan aruba only diver collection of evidence completed the removal of any remaining evidence...
 

The bottom line is that SOME kind of clothing material was found in that trap!!!!! What would clothing of ANY kind be in there (next to those hermit crabs    )?????????????

[Tamikosmom]

You are right .... it CAN'T be! My guess is that Arubans (and most likely the traitorous Silvetti) merely TOLD the Holloways that the items were tested and that NOTHING panned out! The other thought is that they sent items to the Netherlands BEFORE they sent samples to our FBI. Of course no one knows just exactly what "samples" were even tested anyways! 

Very true Wreck.Inquiring minds want to know,who specifically gave Robin that information.....

Wreck, ktf...
What Janet brought forward about Robin's comments and the date is definitely hinky...
I can only guess when Tim told Dave after the 29 Dec ROV pics that he was 99.9% sure they found Natalee....that there was a discussion of evidence recovery and analysis of evidence by (some agency-fbi-aruba ale-NL?).
Make me wonder if some samples were taken on the 30th dive and sent off for analysis to some agency...
And the 7 Jan aruba only diver collection of evidence completed the removal of any remaining evidence...
 

Hubby requested that I call it an early night on the computer and watch the History Channel with him.  I complied and ... he immediately fell asleep.  There was a time he did not fall asleep if I cuddled up to him on the could.

 

Anyways ...

billb ... I think you might be right about the contents of the trap being sampled by the Aruban divers on the December 30th visual dive ... the visual dive when the vision of the American diver Tim Trahan was impaired ... the visual dive when the Aruban divers were able to determine there was nothing case related.

 

Janet

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VISUAL DIVE - DECEMBER 30, 2007

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman:   I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.

Kyle Kingman:  On the night of the 30th (I believe this was Tim's last night on the Persistence) I approached Tim and proposed some ideas to him. I suggested that we shouldn't take the Aruban Polis divers at their word and proceed with planning a recovery of the trap. Also, I proposed the trap site may not be pristine or the Polis may have already knew about it. This statement was backed up by several comments we heard, behavior we observed, and other things. Tim told me he thought I was right but didn't know what to do about it.

[Keepthefaith]

So basically they knew what they had on Dec 30th..

1.ALE/Trahan come up from dive.
2.Meet with Richardson/Silvetti.
3.Richardson/Silvetti work to get Tim Miller off the ship.
4.Set up clean-up dive for Jan 7th
5.Panter does final clean-up..

No more evidence.......Could be a possibility?????

[Magnolia]

You are right .... it CAN'T be! My guess is that Arubans (and most likely the traitorous Silvetti) merely TOLD the Holloways that the items were tested and that NOTHING panned out! The other thought is that they sent items to the Netherlands BEFORE they sent samples to our FBI. Of course no one knows just exactly what "samples" were even tested anyways! 

Very true Wreck.Inquiring minds want to know,who specifically gave Robin that information.....

Wreck, ktf...
What Janet brought forward about Robin's comments and the date is definitely hinky...
I can only guess when Tim told Dave after the 29 Dec ROV pics that he was 99.9% sure they found Natalee....that there was a discussion of evidence recovery and analysis of evidence by (some agency-fbi-aruba ale-NL?).
Make me wonder if some samples were taken on the 30th dive and sent off for analysis to some agency...
And the 7 Jan aruba only diver collection of evidence completed the removal of any remaining evidence...
 

The bottom line is that SOME kind of clothing material was found in that trap!!!!! What would clothing of ANY kind be in there (next to those hermit crabs    )?????????????

When you said about Drury being Dolph, I thought about the police officer's hat that some could see in the
trap with the bones.