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Topic: Haleigh Marie Cummings #21 9/16/09 - 9/20/09 (Read 408717 times)
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #21 9/16/09 -
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Street view of stokes landing rd dirt road lead to a pond. Will post the pond next..
Not 100 % sure if this is the one but I did some illimination...
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Quote from: ISpy on September 19, 2009, 01:13:59 AM
Sorry! Didn't mean to re-post! Meant to quote it to bring up other possible scenarios. What if something did happen after Tommy's (assuming Misty went to a party or something there)? Theory A: Misty took Haleigh, who got into something/met with an accident. Misty was afraid of Ron, panicked and convinced somebody to help her hide Haleigh (hence all the boat stuff to Stoke's Pond), and convinced someone to cover for her to protect her. Theory B: Misty gave the kids something to put them to sleep while she went and partied, came home and discovered Haleigh dead (OD, Seizure, bad reaction), panicked, convinced someone to help her, she drove Haleigh to meet whoever, they disposed of the body, and she stage the kidnapping scenario.
Feel free to dissect b/c I don't have a clue.
I might as well go to bed too. I'm taking Klaas advice to FannyMae-I may as well go to bed b/c me staying up won't change a thing. *I think she knows my spouse. LOL! 'Nite all!
Nite Ispy! I will only say that I wondered about these things also and looked all over about these cadaver dogs and what they do.
#1 we know that house was searched by cadaver dogs
#2 the only study I found on cadaver dogs stated that most dogs responded best to a scent at (IIRC) 2.5 hrs post mortem.
So with that said if MIsty was out and did drug the children the timing would have to have been left to luck and pretty darn good luck to her advantage at that point in time if you know what I mean. Than would have come the planning and disposal. Her time period I believe would have been between 8:30 and 3am. Long enough for all that and one heck of an overdose. I don't have any experience w/overdose of children tho. I just always figured parents/people who did this would naturally start with the least amount needed for the desired result - a peacefull nites sleep for the adults??
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #21 9/16/09 -
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Here is the pond .. Again not 100% sure. Dirt road is to the right .
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Reader Comment:
What-evvverrrr wrote:
I just rode around the mondex and they are a few roads past the old bait and tackle store that use to be on hwy19. My sister-in-law(she lives one road over) said "they did find a body, but they don't know if it is Haliegh yet or not." The only news station out there was ch. 4. So maybe that is where they will give an update... Lord I don't want this baby to be dead, God bless her little soul!
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=145207
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Quote from: Northern Rose on September 19, 2009, 01:18:40 AM
Reader Comments:
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Why do I see tomorrow's headlines reading- "Haleigh's body found, Misty shot and killed by Husband, Ron claims insanity."
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=145240&catid=3
Because it could be the reality of this sad sad story.
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Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on September 19, 2009, 01:26:16 AM
Street view of stokes landing rd dirt road lead to a pond. Will post the pond next..
Not 100 % sure if this is the one but I did some illimination...
I've bee looking at size and shape of the pond in the video, could it be the one South of Moore's trail road, East of Marsh Lae and West of Stokes Landing road.............looks like a good sized pond to me
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Stokes+Landing+Rd&daddr=202+Green+Ln,+FL+32189+to:29.572057,-81.704507&hl=en&geocode=Ffo7wwEdmF8h-w%3B%3B&mra=mi&mrcr=1&mrsp=2&sz=18&sll=29.571796,-81.703278&sspn=0.00224,0.006845&ie=UTF8&ll=29.571801,-81.703622&spn=0.00224,0.006845&t=h&z=18
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Quote from: islandmonkey on September 19, 2009, 01:33:02 AM
Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on September 19, 2009, 01:26:16 AM
Street view of stokes landing rd dirt road lead to a pond. Will post the pond next..
Not 100 % sure if this is the one but I did some illimination...
I've bee looking at size and shape of the pond in the video, could it be the one South of Moore's trail road, East of Marsh Lae and West of Stokes Landing road.............looks like a good sized pond to me
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Stokes+Landing+Rd&daddr=202+Green+Ln,+FL+32189+to:29.572057,-81.704507&hl=en&geocode=Ffo7wwEdmF8h-w%3B%3B&mra=mi&mrcr=1&mrsp=2&sz=18&sll=29.571796,-81.703278&sspn=0.00224,0.006845&ie=UTF8&ll=29.571801,-81.703622&spn=0.00224,0.006845&t=h&z=18
OK...Im gonna be coming out of Palatka and going to Satsuma that way, I am gonna have to get directions from that areaso I know just how to get there without getting lost...you know Im not good with directions....lol
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I don't know, I was at work....I don't know, I was sleeping........Where is Haleigh???????
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is the search anywhere near the retired or ex marine guys property?? the place where Theresa Neves was so upset about, with the pig traps?, where she asked Cobra to check out with her??? anyone know?
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HH,
Didn't you go there once before?
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Here you go IM...
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Quote from: dsntslp on September 19, 2009, 01:38:20 AM
HH,
Didn't you go there once before?
yep...Ive been there 3 times but I went straight to Palatka and straight to Satsuma from there. Ive never ben on this road they are talking about and didnt travel around Palatka, just went to Satsuma....
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Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on September 19, 2009, 01:38:23 AM
Here you go IM...
Thanks JG~I can always count on you to help me out!!!!!!!
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maybe there was a party there that night at the pond and Misty wanted to go with Tommy and Joe nad so she told Ron she wanted to babysit and he said no I guess that was going to be her excuse to not be at the trailer....I wonder if she gave Ron jr and Haleigh a sedative and then put them in the back of the van to sleep.....maybe that is why her blanket was in the van? because they tested the house and the van for death scent and found none so maybe she died at the party at the pond???
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I'm gonna turn in, something tells me we wont hear anything more concrete until the morning. Take care everyone
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Quote from: my2cents on September 19, 2009, 01:45:51 AM
maybe there was a party there that night at the pond and Misty wanted to go with Tommy and Joe nad so she told Ron she wanted to babysit and he said no I guess that was going to be her excuse to not be at the trailer....I wonder if she gave Ron jr and Haleigh a sedative and then put them in the back of the van to sleep.....maybe that is why her blanket was in the van? because they tested the house and the van for death scent and found none so maybe she died at the party at the pond???
Now that would make sense. Because if Haleigh was with her you'd like to think she would have atleast checked on her every hr or so?
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Quote from: Cappuccino on September 19, 2009, 01:46:31 AM
I'm gonna turn in, something tells me we wont hear anything more concrete until the morning. Take care everyone
Night Capp. I am not too far behind you.
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Quote from: dsntslp on September 19, 2009, 01:38:20 AM
HH,
Didn't you go there once before?
yep...Ive been there 3 times but I went straight to Palatka and straight to Satsuma from there. Ive never ben on this road they are talking about and didnt travel around Palatka, just went to Satsuma....
Having been there. If you were driving this route this would also be close to Ron"s work right?! Say within less than an hour trip?
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HH,
Didn't you go there once before?
yep...Ive been there 3 times but I went straight to Palatka and straight to Satsuma from there. Ive never ben on this road they are talking about and didnt travel around Palatka, just went to Satsuma....
Having been there. If you were driving this route this would also be close to Ron"s work right?! Say within less than an hour trip?
Im not sure just what you are asking about.....are you saying the route to the pond?
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Possible Search For Haleigh Cummings?
Taren Reed Created: 9/18/2009 6:54:12 PM Updated: 9/19/2009 1:43:40 AM
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SATSUMA, FL -- Lots of activity in Putnam County has led to dozens of calls into First Coast News, claiming the body of Haleigh Cummings has been found.
Officials tell First Coast News they are dredging a pond in Palatka, but will not confirm if it is related to a search for Haleigh.
At her home in Welatka, Haleigh's paternal great-grandmother, Annette Sykes told First Coast News' Jennifer Lindgren she'd gotten word of police activity in the Stokes Landing area south of Palatka.
Sykes says raced to the scene, to find deputies and investigators working in the woods. When Sykes questioned the investigators and asked if they were looking for Haleigh, she says they would not give her a yes or no answer, and told her she could not get any closer to the scene.
Neighbors describe the area as heavily wooded, undeveloped private property that is hard to access. They say deputies used bulldozers to widen a dirt road through the trees so pumping equipment could be brought down to the pond.
The sound of generators could be heard down by the pond Friday night.
Neighbors say they've never seen investigators search the approximately three-acre pond, though it is near a part of the St. Johns River directly across from Satsuma.
Sykes says she is certain the search has to do with Haleigh.
First Coast News' Jessica Clark spoke with Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, who said he has not been contacted by anyone in regards to Haleigh being found. However, he did say he doesn't expect to be the first notified.
He said Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, has contacted him about this.
Marie Griffis, Haleigh's grandmother, also told First Coast News she has not been contacted by the sheriff's office and is unaware of any findings.
A viewer called First Coast News about around 8:30 p.m. and said customers at an auction house off Highway 17 have said family members told them Haleigh's body has been found.
Haleigh was 5-years-old when she vanished Feb. 10, from her father's mobile home, just outside the community of Satsuma.
Misty Croslin-Cummings was babysitting Haleigh that night when she says she woke about 3 a.m. and noticed the kitchen light on. The back door was propped open with a brick and Haleigh was missing.
Misty's brother, 23-year-old Hank Croslin, was recently questioned by investigators in connection to the case. Hank was arrested on a grand theft charge; three other inmates were also questioned.
Hank and his wife were questioned earlier in the case by investigators.
Misty was questioned by investigators. Tim Miller with Equusearch administered a polygraph test requested by Misty. Miller says she told him she wanted to clear her name. He says Croslin-Cummings 'failed miserably.'
Miller says Croslin-Cummings wanted to do more, so she took a voice analysis test.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=145240&catid=3
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Quote from: fatcatlurker on September 19, 2009, 01:51:17 AM
Quote from: higherhopes on September 19, 2009, 01:41:56 AM
Quote from: dsntslp on September 19, 2009, 01:38:20 AM
HH,
Didn't you go there once before?
yep...Ive been there 3 times but I went straight to Palatka and straight to Satsuma from there. Ive never ben on this road they are talking about and didnt travel around Palatka, just went to Satsuma....
Having been there. If you were driving this route this would also be close to Ron"s work right?! Say within less than an hour trip?
About 8 miles SW.....here is the link
http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=Comfort+Rd,+Palatka,+FL+32177&geocode=Cb1ygc6nW3J6FXbtxAEdegoi-w&dirflg=&saddr=620+Stokes+landing+road,+fl+32189&f=d&sll=29.687344,-81.663265&sspn=0.017896,0.038495&ie=UTF8&ll=29.637933,-81.67305&spn=0.143234,0.307961&t=h&z=12
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