Lively Case Discussion #554 12/4 - 12/6/2006

[klaasend]

You all know the rules

[robots]

im in

[bleachedblack]

me too

[Tylergal]

me too

Oh, BlBl that was so sweet of you to think of me.  Actually, I did buy a movie size poster..... in addition to the one mounted on wood.  I am going to use the wood-mounted one on the swing, since it can handle the outdoors better and then I am going to put that one underglass on the covered area, then decorate.  I am about decorated out.  I am so tired and there are still boxes and boxes and boxes. . . . . . I think they are multiplying.

[bleachedblack]

From witness statement Satish Kalpoe 5/31/05

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On your question if Joran and the girl had gotten out of the car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I answer you no. Joran and the girl never got out of Deepak’s car.

[bleachedblack]

me too

Oh, BlBl that was so sweet of you to think of me.  Actually, I did buy a movie size poster..... in addition to the one mounted on wood.  I am going to use the wood-mounted one on the swing, since it can handle the outdoors better and then I am going to put that one underglass on the covered area, then decorate.  I am about decorated out.  I am so tired and there are still boxes and boxes and boxes. . . . . . I think they are multiplying.

....saw your post, glad you found something, it's a very nice sentiment.  

[2NJSons_Mom]

Just catching up....

I think Klaasend would have showered and made it back in time to lock at 50....surprised she didn't take the challenge...  

Bleachedblack, I just love your roseannroseannadanna....

Robots, you keep us all alert when you are robot'n around...

[robots]

From witness statement Satish Kalpoe 5/31/05

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On your question if Joran and the girl had gotten out of the car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I answer you no. Joran and the girl never got out of Deepak’s car.

beach is out

no one saw them

no fishermen
no other beach walkers
not a soul

[robots]

Just catching up....

I think Klaasend would have showered and made it back in time to lock at 50....surprised she didn't take the challenge...  

Bleachedblack, I just love your roseannroseannadanna....

Robots, you keep us all alert when you are robot'n around...

robot'n around        

[robots]

i think GUIDO told the police JORAN drove his car

extra set of keys made it simple as huckleberry pie

"just bring the car back by 2:30 lover"  said GUIDO  

[robots]

Joran was driving the car behind the K2 Brothers




i robotically sniffed that one out

[robots]

wish they would have checked guido's car

[2NJSons_Mom]

From witness statement Satish Kalpoe 5/31/05

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On your question if Joran and the girl had gotten out of the car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I answer you no. Joran and the girl never got out of Deepak’s car.

mmm...I haven't read this again in a while, but this is before they recanted the HI story if 5/31/05...truth or fiction...

[bleachedblack]

2NJSons_Mom wrote;

Bleachedblack, I just love your roseannroseannadanna....

Thank-you maybe with the new Christmas avitar I am roseannasantanadana

[Anna]

Tyler & Hammer Posted:

the big hammer wrote:
Hitler, Aryan & Slaves - Part II

The comments made during this case are different than declaring someone a "hair nazi" -- lexicon made popular during Seinfeld era on TV (soup nazi).

Re-read the comments of wever attorney Sprong and his two references to "aryan race" -- this is dramatically different and something you'd never hear in a public statement by a US attorney -- it's unheard of.

Taken as a whole ( the statements attributed to Natalee by jvds and the statements of the wever family attorney ) and in context, to me, it is clear what they are trying to say and to who they are saying it.

They are attempting to alienate European/Dutch from feeling any empathy towards HT Family. This is just one of the numerous smear jobs afoot in this case.

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Exactly. I have said that before, but you said it so much more succintly and eloquently.



Much of what Joran says is geared toward what he knows his parents want to hear or what he has heard them discussing in the past.  He knows full well how to push their buttons.

Given the atmosphere in most high schools today, most kids do not make racial references at all.  Not a very good idea.  And while MB would have a solid white majority, many schools in Alabama have a black or African American (take your pick, whichever you prefer as this has changed back and forth depending on who you talk to as the name of choice) actual majority, something many even in this country fail to realize.  We also have at least four or five entire counties with a larger black population, a black majority.  All schools interact freely and compete in sports, etc.  Race relations in Birmingham are better than in most cities in this country or even globally.

While I do hope our students are familiar with the term Aryan Race, I doubt it is a phrase that just rolls off the tongue in social conversations.
Joran is playing to his parents with this.

Sprong and the article recently in Amigoe about the slutty American dancing girl the one wearing the foreign looking shoes are further attempts at general anti-American smearing, not just the HT's but Americans in general, the new Aryans.

Joran parrots his parents in things like saying he never has sex without a condom, Natalee would be "permitted" to visit his home and other thoughts and phrases are for their benefit alone as he does know how to push their buttons.  Manipulative does not begin to cover Joran.  

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[2NJSons_Mom]

2NJSons_Mom wrote;

Bleachedblack, I just love your roseannroseannadanna....

Thank-you maybe with the new Christmas avitar I am roseannasantanadana

This is true...was just thinking of Gilda and left the big guy out of my thoughts for a few...guess I might be getting coal...

You know????  Your quote from Satish's 5/31 statement might be truth if Robots is right about Joran driving Guido's car....

[2NJSons_Mom]

Goodnight, all.

[bleachedblack]

2NJSons_Mom wrote;

You know???? Your quote from Satish's 5/31 statement might be truth if Robots is right about Joran driving Guido's car....

I have been going back and re-reading some of the earliest statements to see what new, if any truths they might reveal as new information comes foward.  I think Satish was likely telling the truth......they never got out at the beach.

[justinsmama]

Here, the Kalpoes would be thought of in terms of "ethnic" or Indian (of India). Not as "black".

[bleachedblack]

Here, the Kalpoes would be thought of in terms of "ethnic" or Indian (of India). Not as "black".

I think they are often refered to as their country of origin=Surnamise