Lively Case Discussion #555 12/6 - 12/8/2006

[Buckeye]

Anna

You just don't want water in the spigots.  If you can't get the hose off, just make sure you don't have one of those adjustable ends that shut off water (twist) but the spigot is still open. Then just drain as much water out of hose as you can.
Tyler is right about the indoor faucets that have pipes running by an outside wall.  Let the water drip a little and open any cupboard doors to let the heat from the house get to the back wall.

blah
Your bruss. sprouts will be on my Xmas menu.

Tyler
Somebody told me that smoked turkey was the best turkey they ever had.  Does it taste like hotdogs or smoked sausage?? Sometimes all the smoked stuff tastes the same to me. I'm debating about trying one. TIA

[klaasend]

SM tree project update.  Not done yet but getting closer    

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/smtree8.jpg

[Tylergal]

I live in Michigan and it gets and stays friggen cold and I never do the things you are talking about, never had a problem.  The only thing I do is unhook the hoses and store them for the winter.  If you have a water pipe that is exposed to the air (as in not buried or anything) for several feet you might want to insulate it but other than that, the odds of your pipes freezing ae pretty darn close to zero.

Blah, our houses are not insulated nor pipes buried as well as they are in the frozen tundra, because they think in this area we are in the South, so when it gets this cold this quick, went from about 80 one day to 19 that night, it is hard on plants and the pipes.  I lose more roses in that kind of weather than I do when it drops gradually through the season.  One Christmas Eve, it went from 79 that afternoon to 4 degrees by the next morning and although I had watered the roses and sprayed with Wiltpruf, I still lost 7.

[blah]

Anna

You just don't want water in the spigots.  If you can't get the hose off, just make sure you don't have one of those adjustable ends that shut off water (twist) but the spigot is still open. Then just drain as much water out of hose as you can.
Tyler is right about the indoor faucets that have pipes running by an outside wall.  Let the water drip a little and open any cupboard doors to let the heat from the house get to the back wall.

blah
Your bruss. sprouts will be on my Xmas menu.

Tyler
Somebody told me that smoked turkey was the best turkey they ever had.  Does it taste like hotdogs or smoked sausage?? Sometimes all the smoked stuff tastes the same to me. I'm debating about trying one. TIA

for all of the mileage I'm getting out of that recipe, I should have claimed to create it !!!

       

[Ono]

Just posted by Linda on the front page of SM.  Linda lives in Aruba:

Hey Klaasend..how are you..
The judge decided today that the 3 suspects stay suspects.
So Karin Jansen has 5 months to come up with some new evidence.
I really thought that they would let the Kalpoes go,but not Joran..guess I was wrong.
Anyway ,have a nice day…

I am happy about this decision I thought it would have went the other way.  On the same note I find it sad that I have to be happy about Aruba making a ruling that 3 kidnappers, rapists, murderers stay as suspects for another 5 months.

Karin Janssen doesn't need five months to come up with some new evidence because she will be gone by then.  Isn't she suppose to leave in January 2007.  Or are they going to give her a special extension .

Oops..sorry..left out my post.

In five months the time limit for Natalee's case will be officially up in Aruba. Whether KJ is in Aruba then, or in back Holland, it won't matter...Perhaps she will be the head prosecutor, or assist in the prosecution in Holland when this case goes to trial there? (Because I really think it will go to trial there--the Dutch there are not stupid and will want this case to go forward, I think. Aruba is a thorn in Holland's side.)

[BTgirl]

Anna, I thought you were ins Alabama, why are you worried about your pipes freezing?

For the same reason I'm worried about my pipes freezing in Tennessee. It's going to be 18 degrees here the next two nights.  

18 degrees for 2 nights is not going to make your pipes freeze and burst.

Maybe we have different water in the south.    

[Buckeye]

SM tree project update.  Not done yet but getting closer    

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/smtree8.jpg

A work of art....

[Carnut]

I live in Michigan and it gets and stays friggen cold and I never do the things you are talking about, never had a problem.  The only thing I do is unhook the hoses and store them for the winter.  If you have a water pipe that is exposed to the air (as in not buried or anything) for several feet you might want to insulate it but other than that, the odds of your pipes freezing ae pretty darn close to zero.

Blah, our houses are not insulated nor pipes buried as well as they are in the frozen tundra, because they think in this area we are in the South, so when it gets this cold this quick, went from about 80 one day to 19 that night, it is hard on plants and the pipes.  I lose more roses in that kind of weather than I do when it drops gradually through the season.  One Christmas Eve, it went from 79 that afternoon to 4 degrees by the next morning and although I had watered the roses and sprayed with Wiltpruf, I still lost 7.

Well, I will kinda agree with Blah that an overnight cold snap probably isn't really anything to be too concerned about. Residual heat from the interior will probably keep most all interior plumbing ok.

It's still prudent to disconnect exterior hoses in winter time.

Around here an extended cold spell of several days without going above freezing is what really gets attention for plumbing, especially in trailer parks and then only with uninsulated plumbing.

[blah]

I live in Michigan and it gets and stays friggen cold and I never do the things you are talking about, never had a problem.  The only thing I do is unhook the hoses and store them for the winter.  If you have a water pipe that is exposed to the air (as in not buried or anything) for several feet you might want to insulate it but other than that, the odds of your pipes freezing ae pretty darn close to zero.

Blah, our houses are not insulated nor pipes buried as well as they are in the frozen tundra, because they think in this area we are in the South, so when it gets this cold this quick, went from about 80 one day to 19 that night, it is hard on plants and the pipes.  I lose more roses in that kind of weather than I do when it drops gradually through the season.  One Christmas Eve, it went from 79 that afternoon to 4 degrees by the next morning and although I had watered the roses and sprayed with Wiltpruf, I still lost 7.

I really dont think y'all have to worry about your pipes, it takes the ground a long time to freeze even just a few inches deep.  But, better safe than sorry.

[Tylergal]

Anna

You just don't want water in the spigots.  If you can't get the hose off, just make sure you don't have one of those adjustable ends that shut off water (twist) but the spigot is still open. Then just drain as much water out of hose as you can.
Tyler is right about the indoor faucets that have pipes running by an outside wall.  Let the water drip a little and open any cupboard doors to let the heat from the house get to the back wall.

blah
Your bruss. sprouts will be on my Xmas menu.

Tyler
Somebody told me that smoked turkey was the best turkey they ever had.  Does it taste like hotdogs or smoked sausage?? Sometimes all the smoked stuff tastes the same to me. I'm debating about trying one. TIA

It is much better than "regular" baked turkey or any other way I have had it except barbecued.  I buy them smoked from Honey Baked Ham or Logan's Farm, Williams-Sonoma, etc., (whoever has the price du jour).  I am not particularly fond of those I have eaten that people cook on their smoker, but I suspect all that I have eaten that way was done by ameteurs.  Smoked turkey that is done right tastes very similar to honey baked ham.

[blah]

Anna, I thought you were ins Alabama, why are you worried about your pipes freezing?

For the same reason I'm worried about my pipes freezing in Tennessee. It's going to be 18 degrees here the next two nights.  

18 degrees for 2 nights is not going to make your pipes freeze and burst.

Maybe we have different water in the south.    

thats would explaint ALOT of things !!!


       



JUST KIDDING, DONT KILL ME !!!!!

[BTgirl]

SM tree project update.  Not done yet but getting closer    

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/smtree8.jpg

It is absolutely gorgeous! Thank you so much for your hard work on it.

[blah]

SM tree project update.  Not done yet but getting closer    

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/smtree8.jpg

A work of art....

WOW, I mdae the tree !!!!

[Tylergal]

I live in Michigan and it gets and stays friggen cold and I never do the things you are talking about, never had a problem.  The only thing I do is unhook the hoses and store them for the winter.  If you have a water pipe that is exposed to the air (as in not buried or anything) for several feet you might want to insulate it but other than that, the odds of your pipes freezing ae pretty darn close to zero.

Blah, our houses are not insulated nor pipes buried as well as they are in the frozen tundra, because they think in this area we are in the South, so when it gets this cold this quick, went from about 80 one day to 19 that night, it is hard on plants and the pipes.  I lose more roses in that kind of weather than I do when it drops gradually through the season.  One Christmas Eve, it went from 79 that afternoon to 4 degrees by the next morning and although I had watered the roses and sprayed with Wiltpruf, I still lost 7.

Well, I will kinda agree with Blah that an overnight cold snap probably isn't really anything to be too concerned about. Residual heat from the interior will probably keep most all interior plumbing ok.

It's still prudent to disconnect exterior hoses in winter time.

Around here an extended cold spell of several days without going above freezing is what really gets attention for plumbing, especially in trailer parks and then only with uninsulated plumbing.

You really do not know since you have never lived here, but we get far worse damage from something like this than we would in mid January when it drops to single digits, because it has had time to gradually cool off.  See that is another urban myth about the earht's temperature.  Did you know that you would expect the west side to be warmer at sundown?  Nope.  I learned that Sunday from a professor at Auburn who said the temperature drops so rapidly on the west side, that it does more damage than on the east side where it has gradually declined throughout the day.  

See, we Alabamians have lived through frozen, burst pipes too many years to think it will not be bad.  We have awakened to enough water for cats to swim in before when we did not take care to protect our pipes.

[Buckeye]

Tyler

Thanks....I actually buy the Honey Baked Ham...maybe this year I'll do the turkey...I've just always cooked a regular turkey (with bacon on it...don't tell anybody).  

[BTgirl]

I really dont think y'all have to worry about your pipes, it takes the ground a long time to freeze even just a few inches deep.  But, better safe than sorry.

Blah,

I used to have a boss from Michigan who felt the same way. At least he did until some of the pipes in the office building froze and broke and he had to pay a big plumbing bill to get them repaired.  

[Carnut]

Anna

You just don't want water in the spigots.  If you can't get the hose off, just make sure you don't have one of those adjustable ends that shut off water (twist) but the spigot is still open. Then just drain as much water out of hose as you can.
Tyler is right about the indoor faucets that have pipes running by an outside wall.  Let the water drip a little and open any cupboard doors to let the heat from the house get to the back wall.

blah
Your bruss. sprouts will be on my Xmas menu.

Tyler
Somebody told me that smoked turkey was the best turkey they ever had.  Does it taste like hotdogs or smoked sausage?? Sometimes all the smoked stuff tastes the same to me. I'm debating about trying one. TIA

It is much better than "regular" baked turkey or any other way I have had it except barbecued.  I buy them smoked from Honey Baked Ham or Logan's Farm, Williams-Sonoma, etc., (whoever has the price du jour).  I am not particularly fond of those I have eaten that people cook on their smoker, but I suspect all that I have eaten that way was done by ameteurs.  Smoked turkey that is done right tastes very similar to honey baked ham.

Heh, heh, my good neighbor brought over a large pan of smoked turkey for me this Thanksgiving. Don't know if it was because they just wanted to get rid of it or if they thought they were treating me. Anyhow it didn't taste all that much different from regular turkey to me.

[Ono]

JOE TACOPINA will be on EVERY CHANNEL ha can find

 

i hope he has another BLOW UP


 

what channel will he be on, gimmie a phone number, i'll make him blow up

  Collard Balls !

[Tylergal]

Anna

You just don't want water in the spigots.  If you can't get the hose off, just make sure you don't have one of those adjustable ends that shut off water (twist) but the spigot is still open. Then just drain as much water out of hose as you can.
Tyler is right about the indoor faucets that have pipes running by an outside wall.  Let the water drip a little and open any cupboard doors to let the heat from the house get to the back wall.

blah
Your bruss. sprouts will be on my Xmas menu.

Tyler
Somebody told me that smoked turkey was the best turkey they ever had.  Does it taste like hotdogs or smoked sausage?? Sometimes all the smoked stuff tastes the same to me. I'm debating about trying one. TIA

It is much better than "regular" baked turkey or any other way I have had it except barbecued.  I buy them smoked from Honey Baked Ham or Logan's Farm, Williams-Sonoma, etc., (whoever has the price du jour).  I am not particularly fond of those I have eaten that people cook on their smoker, but I suspect all that I have eaten that way was done by ameteurs.  Smoked turkey that is done right tastes very similar to honey baked ham.

Heh, heh, my good neighbor brought over a large pan of smoked turkey for me this Thanksgiving. Don't know if it was because they just wanted to get rid of it or if they thought they were treating me. Anyhow it didn't taste all that much different from regular turkey to me.

See, I agree with you on that.  I cannot much tell any difference when the home cookers do it, but when you buy it from a quality place like Logan's, Honey Baked Ham or Williams-Sonoma, there is definitely a difference.

[blah]

I really dont think y'all have to worry about your pipes, it takes the ground a long time to freeze even just a few inches deep.  But, better safe than sorry.

Blah,

I used to have a boss from Michigan who felt the same way. At least he did until some of the pipes in the office building froze and broke and he had to pay a big plumbing bill to get them repaired.  

y'all must have crappy pipes down there, i'm gonna send all y'all new pipes for christmas