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« Reply #580 on: December 07, 2006, 09:39:15 PM »

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This kiddo is a hero.


Yes he is.... and in a society where so many people think about themselves he is a blessing!


how old is this kid?  He speaks very well


he is 11 ...
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« Reply #581 on: December 07, 2006, 09:39:16 PM »

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I just can't see laying all the blame at NG for this woman's suicide.

She had a harrowing childhood from accounts, was involved in porn movies, sent those awful e mails to herself pretending they were from her husband, and most certainly as joran had something to do with natalee being gone, she too orchestrated her son to disappear.

I have never been a NG fan , but I can't blame the whole enchilada on her for this one...

JMHO I know alot will disagree...

But I'll agree to disagree... Wink


Well, I'm one for agreeing with you. It wasn't NG's fault.
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« Reply #582 on: December 07, 2006, 09:39:16 PM »

katysmom I'm so sorry for your loss of your MIL and I hope your FIL improves, this must be so hard with him 3 hours away.

Mrs, how is your Dad?
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« Reply #583 on: December 07, 2006, 09:40:01 PM »

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i'll give ya that, she wouldnt roll over like Greta[/quote]

   Smile  Ty  Blah   I feel  the same.
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« Reply #584 on: December 07, 2006, 09:40:09 PM »

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This kiddo is a hero.


Yes he is.... and in a society where so many people think about themselves he is a blessing!


how old is this kid?  He speaks very well


and also, get a friend with you to listen to him on this podcast... and try and get the information out there.
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« Reply #585 on: December 07, 2006, 09:40:32 PM »

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DRIVING FOR DONORS will begin on May 15th, 2007 and continue for 2 months.  We will hold donor drives in major cities such as Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Dallas, Washington D.C, New York, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Denver, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix and more!

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« Reply #586 on: December 07, 2006, 09:40:54 PM »

When my brother had lymphoma, we started for the bone marrow thing, but it wasn't a treatment option for him. We weren't the same blood type either. BTW... he is in a remission and is doing well. Well as well as my older bro could do.  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
He is such a logic driven person and I am driven by emotion.
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« Reply #587 on: December 07, 2006, 09:42:20 PM »

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« Reply #588 on: December 07, 2006, 09:42:30 PM »

This kid is TEACHING a lesson.
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« Reply #589 on: December 07, 2006, 09:43:02 PM »

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I just can't see laying all the blame at NG for this woman's suicide.

She had a harrowing childhood from accounts, was involved in porn movies, sent those awful e mails to herself pretending they were from her husband, and most certainly as joran had something to do with natalee being gone, she too orchestrated her son to disappear.

I have never been a NG fan , but I can't blame the whole enchilada on her for this one...

JMHO I know alot will disagree...

But I'll agree to disagree... Wink


 Jackie..  I agree with you.. Poeple are responsible for their OWN actions.. and I have been finding that out lately moreso then ever.. Sad I am myself guilty of not being so kind. and have asked my forgiveness.
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« Reply #590 on: December 07, 2006, 09:43:55 PM »

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I just can't see laying all the blame at NG for this woman's suicide.

She had a harrowing childhood from accounts, was involved in porn movies, sent those awful e mails to herself pretending they were from her husband, and most certainly as joran had something to do with natalee being gone, she too orchestrated her son to disappear.

I have never been a NG fan , but I can't blame the whole enchilada on her for this one...

JMHO I know alot will disagree...

But I'll agree to disagree... Wink


Well, I'm one for agreeing with you. It wasn't NG's fault.



funny thing is, if nancy grace was someone else and watching from the outside, she would blame nancy grace 100% and crucify her for it
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« Reply #591 on: December 07, 2006, 09:44:02 PM »

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katysmom I'm so sorry for your loss of your MIL and I hope your FIL improves, this must be so hard with him 3 hours away.

Mrs, how is your Dad?


Thank you none, angie, mrs red and everyone for your concern.  Bascially everyone in our family has something serious wrong, even our dear little animals.  We try not to dwell on our problems when there are so many others who are suffering more than us.  i.e. Natalee's parents; I can't even begin to imagine that kind of pain.
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« Reply #592 on: December 07, 2006, 09:45:08 PM »

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FYI  - I'm in the bone marrow registry donor program  Wink

http://www.drivingfordonors.com/


  Smile Klaas..  God love yah. Is there anything you DONT do?  Smile


 Laughing I'm a lousy housekeeper, lol


  ROFL    I had to press my nose to the screen to read that.. Its hell to get old  Wink and I dont believe that you are.. so there.. LOL  Smile
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« Reply #593 on: December 07, 2006, 09:47:22 PM »

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Quote from: "Jacqueline"
I just can't see laying all the blame at NG for this woman's suicide.

She had a harrowing childhood from accounts, was involved in porn movies, sent those awful e mails to herself pretending they were from her husband, and most certainly as joran had something to do with natalee being gone, she too orchestrated her son to disappear.

I have never been a NG fan , but I can't blame the whole enchilada on her for this one...

JMHO I know alot will disagree...

But I'll agree to disagree... Wink


Well, I'm one for agreeing with you. It wasn't NG's fault.



funny thing is, if nancy grace was someone else and watching from the outside, she would blame nancy grace 100% and crucify her for it


Nancy has the same motive as Greta and the others.

Ratings.

As stated before, I'm really not a fan of hers, or the type of "journalism" or whatever it is she portrays on tv.

But to me the victim is Trenton, and his manipulative mother put him in harms way.  To me that can never be justified....Millions of people battle depression, and have not had ideal upbringings and they don't toss their kids or use them as a pawn in a divorce ....Unforgivable.
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« Reply #594 on: December 07, 2006, 09:49:18 PM »

Hiya Monkeys

Jacq, IMO there are too many in this old world who are all about ME, MYSELF & I,  frig everything & everyone else as long as they get what they want.
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« Reply #595 on: December 07, 2006, 09:49:59 PM »

Good night monkeys and god bless.
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« Reply #596 on: December 07, 2006, 09:52:32 PM »

blah....thank you i just heard the end of the program.....I was having the identical problem that dihannah had.....
winamp worked...!

OT....have you ever seen the woodworkers in Berea, KY....nice work, especially for Christmas....
one child is getting a wooden salad bowl (walnut) and the other is getting a chopping board with very sharp bread knife... Smile
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« Reply #597 on: December 07, 2006, 09:52:54 PM »

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Hiya Monkeys

Jacq, IMO there are too many in this old world who are all about ME, MYSELF & I,  frig everything & everyone else as long as they get what they want.


Yes, I agree.

When I see pics of this child my heart melts...

All missing children , it is heartbreaking but to think his own Mom, the one in the world is suppose to protect him above  anyone, had something to do with this....Makes my blood boil.
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« Reply #598 on: December 07, 2006, 09:55:41 PM »

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Quote from: "Jacqueline"
I just can't see laying all the blame at NG for this woman's suicide.

She had a harrowing childhood from accounts, was involved in porn movies, sent those awful e mails to herself pretending they were from her husband, and most certainly as joran had something to do with natalee being gone, she too orchestrated her son to disappear.

I have never been a NG fan , but I can't blame the whole enchilada on her for this one...

JMHO I know alot will disagree...

But I'll agree to disagree... Wink


Well, I'm one for agreeing with you. It wasn't NG's fault.



funny thing is, if nancy grace was someone else and watching from the outside, she would blame nancy grace 100% and crucify her for it


Nancy has the same motive as Greta and the others.

Ratings.

As stated before, I'm really not a fan of hers, or the type of "journalism" or whatever it is she portrays on tv.

But to me the victim is Trenton, and his manipulative mother put him in harms way.  To me that can never be justified....Millions of people battle depression, and have not had ideal upbringings and they don't toss their kids or use them as a pawn in a divorce ....Unforgivable.



And suicide is seldom caused by a single event.  It is usually more of a process.  While I think NG behaved badly, her other guests/victims do not commit suicide.

Yes, we are each one responsible for what we do.


But perhaps this person of interest knows something.  Maybe this child is still alive.  That is our hope and our prayer, slim as that chance might be, that he is alive and well and being well cared for somewhere.

Yes, the baby is the victim.  He didn't have any choice in his actions and the mother, while hers is tragic too, she did have a choice.  If it were NG's fault, she would leave a long trail of bodies in her wake.  


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« Reply #599 on: December 07, 2006, 09:56:30 PM »

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DRIVING FOR DONORS will be a nationwide event where my family and I will travel across the country in a special "Donormobile" .  We will work with The National Marrow Donor Program, The Marrow Foundation, local donor centers and businesses and the media to host successful donor drives in over 20 major cities!  

DRIVING FOR DONORS will begin on May 15th, 2007 and continue for 2 months.  We will hold donor drives in major cities such as Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Dallas, Washington D.C, New York, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Denver, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix and more!

Please contact us to see how you can help support DRIVING FOR DONORS or to host a DRIVING FOR DONORS event in your community!


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