Haleigh Marie Cummings #24 9/26/09 - 10/02/09

[ISpy]

Thanks, Brandi!  I think it is too.  I can make out a few of the words.  If I could get a larger copy, I'd like to try again.  It's definitely not a ghost image from folding the paper.  That's why I was hoping someone could find me the link to the letter itself.  I have searched and searched, but apparently I'm missing it.

[ISpy]

BB in a bit-have some research to do.

[Brandi]

Having trouble locating a link to Naynay's letter to her mom?  Hate to ask, but can anyone help me?  TIA!

Not sure where I got the letter, but I saved it to my hard drive. I also have copies in photobucket if you want me to post for you.

I could only find this link: http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5310533.php

Seems he is only offering page1 of 2 of the letter to Nay Nay's mother.

[Blumonkey]

O/T:  Don't want to be part of perpetrating a stereotype, so if you're interested in Appalachia, please read the informative book Mist Over The Mountains:  Appalachia and It's People.  It's a concise and accurate children's info book for anyone short on time.  Just wanted to point out that our monkeys hail from various locales and, as such, please be sensitive to throwing around stereotypes.  I've seen quite a few in this thread and have known a lot of people with chickens in their yards, missing teeth, and looking dirt-poor, living backwoods and I'm related to some of the same.  Until you've lived there, you just don't know.  Just saying.  Thank you!

Mods:  Please remove if inappropriate.  I'm sorry if it is.  Thank you!

Thanks for the info, ISpy. I can't for the life of me see how that region is responsible for a child being missing in Florida. I will look for the book as it sounds insightful and interesting. You always know the good stuff!

[Tams]

I viewed closely and read BOTH letters from, "Nay-Nay."
I just wanted to say how sad it is that these young
minds are going to waste....

Too bad the caseworkers in Fl. have not seen a need and
offered a mentor, free education for High School diplomas,
parenting skills and life skills of some type.

Nay, Nay, Misty, Crystal, their Mom's, Grandparents will
all stroll through life and NEVER know that there is MORE,
if you try and receive encouragement to be all that you can be.
Having babies, partying, depending on the state for food assistance and $$, and depending on a male to "take care of you,"
is a cycle that needs to be broken.

Abuse cycles can be broken. Is the state of Fl. failing these children by NOT doing SOMETHING
to offer direction to these families,  and SHOW them HOW to be more productive in society,  more self sufficient financially, and to encourage solid parenting skills.

Sad to say, but......I bet Misty, Crystal and Nay Nay are all products of their environments. I also bet that their Mom's are carbon copies of them.
How many children will society lose to IGNORANCE, under achievement, and an influence I see as, "Appalachian."

Being a first generation American, I know how hard my parents struggled to get every piece of the American dream they imagined.
Learning English, getting naturalized, then moving on to a higher education. They instilled in us children to accomplish more than they did, and expected us to see that each generation did likewise.

Thank you for this thoughtful and compassionate post, Princess. Really touched my heart. Your statements regarding the multi-generational destructive rut these players are in seems so on target, IMHO. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could find a way to mentor some of these girls/young women - help them to finish their education & strive for a better life. I for one would surely volunteer to do whatever I could to help with such a program. This little girl and her community has really really affected me and tugged at my heart.

By the way - nice to 'meet' you, Lake Erie Princess!

[cartfly]

O/T:  Don't want to be part of perpetrating a stereotype, so if you're interested in Appalachia, please read the informative book Mist Over The Mountains:  Appalachia and It's People.  It's a concise and accurate children's info book for anyone short on time.  Just wanted to point out that our monkeys hail from various locales and, as such, please be sensitive to throwing around stereotypes.  I've seen quite a few in this thread and have known a lot of people with chickens in their yards, missing teeth, and looking dirt-poor, living backwoods and I'm related to some of the same.  Until you've lived there, you just don't know.  Just saying.  Thank you!

Mods:  Please remove if inappropriate.  I'm sorry if it is.  Thank you!

Thanks Ispy for that info. I am in the southern US. I do not know much about the Appalachian other than what my son studied last year when they were learning about the first explorers and Indians. Sounds like an interesting read. Thanks.

[Brandi]

My apologies if this is too big.

[Magnolia]

O/T:  Don't want to be part of perpetrating a stereotype, so if you're interested in Appalachia, please read the informative book Mist Over The Mountains:  Appalachia and It's People.  It's a concise and accurate children's info book for anyone short on time.  Just wanted to point out that our monkeys hail from various locales and, as such, please be sensitive to throwing around stereotypes.  I've seen quite a few in this thread and have known a lot of people with chickens in their yards, missing teeth, and looking dirt-poor, living backwoods and I'm related to some of the same.  Until you've lived there, you just don't know.  Just saying.  Thank you!

Mods:  Please remove if inappropriate.  I'm sorry if it is.  Thank you!

Thank you, I Spy.
Many people who move to Florida, who are not retiring there, have had problems in other states and
move to Florida as sort of a last jumping off place.  Certain types tend to congregate in an area of
the state where they feel they can fit in.
I think Misty and the Croslins moved to Florida from Michigan....not Appalacia at all.

[Tams]

Oh dear. I didn't even see the word "Appalachian" in Princess' post. I only saw the kind words & thoughts. Big sigh.

[BooMonkey]

O/T:  Don't want to be part of perpetrating a stereotype, so if you're interested in Appalachia, please read the informative book Mist Over The Mountains:  Appalachia and It's People.  It's a concise and accurate children's info book for anyone short on time.  Just wanted to point out that our monkeys hail from various locales and, as such, please be sensitive to throwing around stereotypes.  I've seen quite a few in this thread and have known a lot of people with chickens in their yards, missing teeth, and looking dirt-poor, living backwoods and I'm related to some of the same.  Until you've lived there, you just don't know.  Just saying.  Thank you!

Mods:  Please remove if inappropriate.  I'm sorry if it is.  Thank you!

Thank you, I Spy.
Many people who move to Florida, who are not retiring there, have had problems in other states and
move to Florida as sort of a last jumping off place.  Certain types tend to congregate in an area of
the state where they feel they can fit in.
I think Misty and the Croslins moved to Florida from Michigan....not Appalacia at all.

I'm from Michigan, do we know where abouts she came from? I could tell you about the town if it is near me.

[Brandi]

O/T:  Don't want to be part of perpetrating a stereotype, so if you're interested in Appalachia, please read the informative book Mist Over The Mountains:  Appalachia and It's People.  It's a concise and accurate children's info book for anyone short on time.  Just wanted to point out that our monkeys hail from various locales and, as such, please be sensitive to throwing around stereotypes.  I've seen quite a few in this thread and have known a lot of people with chickens in their yards, missing teeth, and looking dirt-poor, living backwoods and I'm related to some of the same.  Until you've lived there, you just don't know.  Just saying.  Thank you!

Mods:  Please remove if inappropriate.  I'm sorry if it is.  Thank you!

Thank you, I Spy.
Many people who move to Florida, who are not retiring there, have had problems in other states and
move to Florida as sort of a last jumping off place.  Certain types tend to congregate in an area of
the state where they feel they can fit in.
I think Misty and the Croslins moved to Florida from Michigan....not Appalacia at all.

I'm from Michigan, do we know where abouts she came from? I could tell you about the town if it is near me.

Yes, they are originally from Michigan. I have never seen a city mentioned though.

Notes from Feb. 2009:
Misty is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year.

[Mere]

O/T:  Don't want to be part of perpetrating a stereotype, so if you're interested in Appalachia, please read the informative book Mist Over The Mountains:  Appalachia and It's People.  It's a concise and accurate children's info book for anyone short on time.  Just wanted to point out that our monkeys hail from various locales and, as such, please be sensitive to throwing around stereotypes.  I've seen quite a few in this thread and have known a lot of people with chickens in their yards, missing teeth, and looking dirt-poor, living backwoods and I'm related to some of the same.  Until you've lived there, you just don't know.  Just saying.  Thank you!

Mods:  Please remove if inappropriate.  I'm sorry if it is.  Thank you!

Thanks for the info, ISpy. I can't for the life of me see how that region is responsible for a child being missing in Florida. I will look for the book as it sounds insightful and interesting. You always know the good stuff!

From the heart of Appalachia, I thank you I Spy and encourage reading the recommended book...Mere from Kentucky

[Blumonkey]

Oh dear. I didn't even see the word "Appalachian" in Princess' post. I only saw the kind words & thoughts. Big sigh.

Tams, you have such a big heart.

[Brandi]

O/T:  Don't want to be part of perpetrating a stereotype, so if you're interested in Appalachia, please read the informative book Mist Over The Mountains:  Appalachia and It's People.  It's a concise and accurate children's info book for anyone short on time.  Just wanted to point out that our monkeys hail from various locales and, as such, please be sensitive to throwing around stereotypes.  I've seen quite a few in this thread and have known a lot of people with chickens in their yards, missing teeth, and looking dirt-poor, living backwoods and I'm related to some of the same.  Until you've lived there, you just don't know.  Just saying.  Thank you!

Mods:  Please remove if inappropriate.  I'm sorry if it is.  Thank you!

Thank you, I Spy.
Many people who move to Florida, who are not retiring there, have had problems in other states and
move to Florida as sort of a last jumping off place.  Certain types tend to congregate in an area of
the state where they feel they can fit in.
I think Misty and the Croslins moved to Florida from Michigan....not Appalacia at all.

I'm from Michigan, do we know where abouts she came from? I could tell you about the town if it is near me.

Yes, they are originally from Michigan. I have never seen a city mentioned though.

Notes from Feb. 2009:
Misty is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year.

wow, records are kept for a long time. LOL

I found both Lisa and Hank T Croslin in Merrill, MI:
LISA C CROSLIN 
11255 MERIDIAN RD    Record Created: 07/2001
MERRILL, MI  48637

[BooMonkey]

Night monkeys   

[Brandi]

Night monkeys   

Good night Boo and Griffin!

[BooMonkey]

O/T:  Don't want to be part of perpetrating a stereotype, so if you're interested in Appalachia, please read the informative book Mist Over The Mountains:  Appalachia and It's People.  It's a concise and accurate children's info book for anyone short on time.  Just wanted to point out that our monkeys hail from various locales and, as such, please be sensitive to throwing around stereotypes.  I've seen quite a few in this thread and have known a lot of people with chickens in their yards, missing teeth, and looking dirt-poor, living backwoods and I'm related to some of the same.  Until you've lived there, you just don't know.  Just saying.  Thank you!

Mods:  Please remove if inappropriate.  I'm sorry if it is.  Thank you!

Thank you, I Spy.
Many people who move to Florida, who are not retiring there, have had problems in other states and
move to Florida as sort of a last jumping off place.  Certain types tend to congregate in an area of
the state where they feel they can fit in.
I think Misty and the Croslins moved to Florida from Michigan....not Appalacia at all.

I'm from Michigan, do we know where abouts she came from? I could tell you about the town if it is near me.

Yes, they are originally from Michigan. I have never seen a city mentioned though.

Notes from Feb. 2009:
Misty is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year.

wow, records are kept for a long time. LOL

I found both Lisa and Hank T Croslin in Merrill, MI:
LISA C CROSLIN 
11255 MERIDIAN RD    Record Created: 07/2001
MERRILL, MI  48637

Meh, it's west of Saginaw, which means I don't know the area at all. Sorry, looks kinda out in the country to me. Not many streets.

[Lake Erie Princess]

I viewed closely and read BOTH letters from, "Nay-Nay."
I just wanted to say how sad it is that these young
minds are going to waste....

Too bad the caseworkers in Fl. have not seen a need and
offered a mentor, free education for High School diplomas,
parenting skills and life skills of some type.

Nay, Nay, Misty, Crystal, their Mom's, Grandparents will
all stroll through life and NEVER know that there is MORE,
if you try and receive encouragement to be all that you can be.
Having babies, partying, depending on the state for food assistance and $$, and depending on a male to "take care of you,"
is a cycle that needs to be broken.

Abuse cycles can be broken. Is the state of Fl. failing these children by NOT doing SOMETHING
to offer direction to these families,  and SHOW them HOW to be more productive in society,  more self sufficient financially, and to encourage solid parenting skills.

Sad to say, but......I bet Misty, Crystal and Nay Nay are all products of their environments. I also bet that their Mom's are carbon copies of them.
How many children will society lose to IGNORANCE, under achievement, and an influence I see as, "Appalachian."

Being a first generation American, I know how hard my parents struggled to get every piece of the American dream they imagined.
Learning English, getting naturalized, then moving on to a higher education. They instilled in us children to accomplish more than they did, and expected us to see that each generation did likewise.

I am afraid I don't understand what you mean by the influence you see as "Appalachian." Could you elaborate?

The Appalachian Mts. are where Feed the Children go and take food, meds, etc.
I mean deep in the "hollers" of the hills.

[Lake Erie Princess]

It is 1 30 am in OHIO. I am off to catch some zzz's.
I am hoping Haleigh will be located this week. Poor baby.

[Brandi]

It is 1 30 am in OHIO. I am off to catch some zzz's.
I am hoping Haleigh will be located this week. Poor baby.

Good night, LEP. Sleep well.